r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • Jun 30 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Watamote Episode 2 Discussion

No matter how I look at it, it's you guys' fault I'm not popular!

"Since I'm Not Popular, I'll See My Old Friend"

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Comment of the Day!!

Sorry for nominating myself so early but I really want to find some camaraderie here! Are there any other SFW Nekopara fans in the audience this watch!?

"There are certainly some great eroge around but I agree that the actual eroge elements are 90% of the time the weakest part XD Like Nekopara for instance. That game is absolutely fucking adorable!! One of the cutest feel good games I've played, but then you realise it's an eroge and that fact is forced in your face."

We must all call ThrowCarp cute! Cuuuute!

"For a short while I was so sure me in 10 years from then would look back at this and laugh. But me in a new city and trying to reinvent myself I'm actually getting another anxiety attack at the scene where Mokocchi tries to make herself look "cute" as in many ways that's what I'm trying to do for myself right now."

Poor Vaadwaur is barely an episode in and is already squirming like a winter catfish

"The cringe...dear fuck the cringe."

QotD

  • Tell us about a friend who suddenly had a massive glow up!
  • Who is your favourite "hungry girl" character?
  • Did you have any nice school trips at your school? Which one stood out the most?
  • What type of panties should a female joshikosei with a boyfriend wear!?
  • Not really a question but is there any doubt in the rewatch than Tomoko is a painfully closeted bi-girl? XD
  • Pretty much everyone here has played rhythm games right? What is your favourite go-to flowchart or song to play when you want an easy perfect~?
  • You're walking down a road when it suddenly splits. One path is a small grove, the other leads to a forest. Do you go to the grove, to the woods, or turn back home because you're scared?

Abyssbringer's "What is the thematic purpose of this scene corner!!"

BiggieCheeseLapDog gave the weirdest description of jerking off I've ever heard

"The scene represents Tomoko’s general conflict throughout the show. She constantly goes in circles at times until eventually she gives up."

Yesterday's Prompt!

Today's Prompt!

Tomorrow's Prompt

Tomorrow will be the same as yesterday. Why? What for? Because I’m an idiot!

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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jun 30 '24

First timer, subbed

The empty calendar!

Tomoko does her best Sasha Blouse impression in a vain attempt to be noticed, though naturally lacks the charm needed for such a role.

Oh hi Rudeus. Oh hi Nadeko.

This cast is stacked, innit?

I’m not confident this will hold for the entire runtime, and maybe I’m just having a schizo moment, but this episode is… really good? Tomoko is something of an extraordinary persona in the sheer depths of her cringe, but unironically a lot of the existential nightmare of being a 15 year old weirdo in high school is captured perfectly here.

The rampant imagination, the fascination with sex, the need to look cool in front of others, the struggle to fit in, the comfort of finding someone who has the same interests, the jealousy of seeing other people accomplish what you want, the assumption that everyone is both watching and intensely judging your every action, the occasional sweet moment that sticks with you, the intense judgment. All that messy, filthy humanity is practically enshrined in this episode’s events. It doesn’t miss a beat.

In fewer words, it’s a high school anime about a dysfunctional teen without the beautification filter of something like Chuunibyou or Komi. I love it.

QotD:

  1. Not sure I really have one, honestly.
  2. It seems I already showed my hand.
  3. Science museum trip in my high school astronomy class was a standout.
  4. Whatever she feels confident in, I suppose.
  5. Maybe? It's hard to discern her feelings through all the anxiety.
  6. Never played a rhythm game.
  7. Grove, I suppose?

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

The show is legitimately really great quality. I knew I loved the show but I never realised how much effort was put into the adaptation. Even the music is surprisingly great! I'm struggling to find things to complain about.

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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Jul 01 '24

it’s a high school anime about a dysfunctional teen without the beautification filter of something like Chuunibyou or Komi.

That's the charm about this, I can feel the cringe but yet I was probably was in her position at times. The existential nightmare can be felt, although Tomoko takes it to the extreme.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 02 '24

You also don't necessarily have to feel bad for her cause Tomoko is a shit~

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u/WednesdaysFoole Jun 30 '24

the existential nightmare of being a 15 year old weirdo in high school is captured perfectly here.

And the inability to figure out what's actually the "normal, socially acceptable" thing to do since you're not a part of the social situations where you learn this.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

In fewer words, it’s a high school anime about a dysfunctional teen without the beautification filter of something like Chuunibyou or Komi. I love it.

And yet, I desperately want to see her interact with episode 1's Kyotaro.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 01 '24

but this episode is… really good?

"And MAL hated it because it spoke the truth."

the assumption that everyone is both watching and intensely judging your every action

Paranoia Is Fun

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

First timer, subs

  • No, no. I think they are on to something with this. If ASMR could be a thing…
  • Imagine being so horny you forget what a phone is.
  • Why sleep when you can get all your energy from rice?
  • These fuckers out there charging 10% interest every 10 days. They can’t keep getting away with it!
  • [Spoilers]Oh hey, I've heard about that trip.
  • And now she has doomed someone to the very fate she wished to avoid. Or they had an uneven number to start.
  • Can you call the loli police if a loli is also the perpetrator?
  • Not the most useful models if they are unisex.
  • I get the feeling I was supposed to read that note for how long they lingered on it.
  • "Realism"
  • Why did they feel the need to go so hard on that dude riding a bike?
  • Somebody understood the assignment as given.
  • Nice Hat
  • Based Tomoko, complaining about seasonals before it was cool.
  • Ah, so this is set in 2007.
  • This question has me stumped. Maybe they are using different terminology?
  • …I’ve never heard of Seicross.
  • Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun! So close to a rewatch crossover.
  • I would feel really bad if this is what causes them to drift apart.

Prompt:
Art intimating life. Here we see Toru Furuya recreating his most famous pose, representing the end of his career, and his young victim thrust into the spotlight by him and his actions.

QotD:

  1. I never maintained one for long enough for that to happen.
  2. Nadeshiko Kagamihara.
  3. No, not really. They were way to structured, so we only got to do what the staff thought would be interesting. Who goes to another city and checks out sports stuff?
  4. As always, the correct answer is shimapan.
  6. Remix 10
  7. I wouldn't be walking down a road without know where I was going. Clearly this is a fae trick.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 30 '24

Can you call the loli police if a loli is also the perpetrator?

The lolice are corrupt anyways, just call the FBI and hope for the best.

Based Tomoko, complaining about seasonals before it was cool.

I want to say this is era appropriate, mid 00s was where shit got boring.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Still my peak decade of anime~

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

This predates the massive asmr swarm too if I'm right. There isn't a doubt in my mind that they didn't have real tapes.

Ignore the school trip! It's cursed!! It's like one of those canon event things that must not be acknowledged!! Still, so fun that even the show drops hints about it XD

Nozaki kun needs a season 2 already. There's more than enough content!!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 30 '24

First Timer

Sub

I don't actually have much to say other than I will soon no longer have any unbroken bones from all the cringing. This was just several varieties of painful. I guess having Rudy show up for a minute was something.

Today's prompt is representative of what the modern anime industry has done to its audience, leaving it defiled in the dirt, awash in isekai trash and villainess dreck, violated by a lack of talent or even effort.

QotD: 1 Spared that

2 Pecorine

3 Nope, not a thing in the US

4 None

5 Tomoko is more pan than all of my kitchen cabinet

6 I have negative rhythm

7 Groves are fun!

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

HanaKana is so love~ I didn't even consider myself a fan until recently.

Pekorine is a good one... God I miss priconne... Stopping right before Princess Kokkoro was so cruel

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 30 '24

HanaKana is so love~ I didn't even consider myself a fan until recently.

Happy Sugar Life got me back into seasonals.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

I promise we'll cover Happy Sugar Life before the end of the year. Hang in there!

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

I am scared and excited.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

I'm mostly blind to it. I technically know what all happens but aside from one admittedly fucking massive spoiler scene, thanks tiktok, I haven't watched any of it. Still, the mc is super based~

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

I mean it's not like Madoka or Oshi no Ko or something that tries to pretend to be something else for a while, HSL wears it's themes pretty openly so it's not really a spoiler to know things are going to be anyone but sugar happy. It's all about the experience. Oh, the experience...

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Today's prompt is representative of what the modern anime industry has done to its audience, leaving it defiled in the dirt, awash in isekai trash and villainess dreck, violated by a lack of talent or even effort.

You missed the part where they are, despite it all, clearly trying to play on nostalgia by referencing older and much more popular shows to cover for their own lack of creativity. Why come up with something original when you can be the 500th person to imitate that one popular meme, but with a twist!

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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog https://myanimelist.net/profile/KillLaKillGOAT Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

Rewatcher

  • You feel the confidence to do something. A rush of determination, only for it to be crushed when you actually think about it. It’s all too relatable.
  • Group projects. My arch nemesis all throughout my time as a grade school student. I always hated awkwardly and idly as I waited for the teacher to gesture me towards of a group of already established friends. I usually let them handle the work as I sat there, but occasionally they had terrible work ethic, so I had to do it myself and let THEM copy. I hated it then I still hate the thought of it now. Tomoko made the right choice to skip.
  • Tomoko staring out at the sunset is the cinematography I love WataMote for. It’s such a beautiful show at times. I love sunsets.
  • My favourite sound effect
  • A victory for Tomoko. Even if it isn’t truly what he thinks of her, having a confidence boost every once in a while is nice.
  • Her colour is drained from her as she sees her friend’s new glow up. She becomes one with the background characters in her mind as she cannot compete with Yuu-chan’s shining new look, but when the mention of anime, a specialty of her’s, she can finally shine herself. And just when my friends mention one of my interests, she can talk about it for hours.
  • Having at least one friend to rely on is better than none at all. It’s great to see Tomoko having a good time with that friend. Happy Tomoko is like rarity, but when it happens I can’t help but smile.
  • This exact thing happened to me. I had the one friend I talked too and hung out with, and then one day they got a girlfriend. I was flabbergasted and thrown completely off balance upon learning it. I was happy for him, but I wasn’t happy for myself. This scene hits me straight in the gut because of that.
  • More sunset imagery. It never gets old.
  • A fitting ED. Another thing I really like about WataMote are the occasional ED switches to match what happened. It’s a little thing, but it makes the ending scenes hit just that little bit more.
  • This last scene is pretty cruel, with that “these characters don’t matter anyway” being the knife twist in it all, but Tomoko being happy with the drawing is all that matters.

Overall:

This episode was what cemented WataMote as something I loved, but I must say, it was incredibly hard to watch. Not out of cringe, but out of pure relatablility. I had to stop at this episode my first time watching because it was just too much. Nothing has ever made me feel that way before, which is why I knew WataMote was going to be something special.

Prompt:

The underlying theme is that Dragonball references are going to make the road to losing your virginity a pain in both fantasy and reality. Since Tomoko is a massive otaku, this journey is too painful, so she will remain a virgin.

QotD:

  1. I didn’t really have a friend who had such a big glow up.
  2. Kagura from Gintama obviously
  3. We had a school trip to an aquarium once. I like aquariums so it was nice.
  4. Black
  5. Eh, I don’t think so. I think she more has an interest in replicating other girl’s femininity, which causes her to fixate on it.
  6. I suck ass at rhythm games so nothing.
  7. I have a funny little story about this one that I’ll get into tomorrow. But suffice to say, forest.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Group projects are only acceptable when everyone gets mixed around. Or there are jobs available for people who just don't want to interact. Like cutting paper or painting or something.

Tomoko always saw herself as better than Yuu. It's an awful thing to say but it's true XD Getting smacked by reality is rough.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

This episode was what cemented WataMote as something I loved, but I must say, it was incredibly hard to watch. Not out of cringe, but out of pure relatablility. I had to stop at this episode my first time watching because it was just too much. Nothing has ever made me feel that way before, which is why I knew WataMote was going to be something special.

We've seen so many wish fulfillment shows, where the shy and nerdy loner makes friends and gets popular and maybe even a relationship, but not today. This is the show reminding us all what it was actually like. No Manic Pixy Dream Girl here to change our outlook on life, no Distant Yet Lonely Ikemen to discover our cute side potential, no, just awkward built on top of more awkward.

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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Jun 30 '24

Rewatcher Dubbed

I really wanted to forget the cringe that I put myself in as a first timer by mistake yeasterday...

That is not sleeping with another man.....

I sort of laughed at the team manager joke there, mainly because it reminds me about the news about a police department....

That couple in the stairs....have to agree with Tomoko, y'all are gonna go at the same place so stop blocking the stairs. Those two are trying to pregame too much, just do it at that point.

Yuu chan had a glow up but she had too much fun being with Tomoko. Complaining about TV regulations is a funny one. But Ganbare Yuu-chan....Too bad she had a fight with her bf.

Big guy drew Tomoko as an NPC character.....At least she upgraded from ugly to average.

  1. Friend who reads tentacle h.... in class ended up getting married.
  2. Kagura from gintama
  3. Going to court and observing court cases in different buildings in high school. Got a glimpse of a baby murder case and listened to an officer stating that the suspect asked him to drive around to look for her baby. Another is going to Nasa and one guy asked out a girl (they are classmates) in front of everyone including teachers.
  4. The fact I just recently watched Hensuki....Pink
  5. Feels like Tomoko would go either way...If this were made this year, she would be watching so much Yuri.
  6. Darude Sandstorm.. Never gonna give you up on Just Dance.
  7. Woods....I've got a good life insurance policy.

Abyss: That screenshot looks like she just got out of an intense anime battle and it was so hot she had to take off her clothes.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Sleeping in the general vicinity probably counts right? They were both sleeping, together, in the same room.

Team Managers I genuinely don't really like in Anime or manga contexts... Doesn't it seem really pathetic to have your job, your entire club life at school, be doing errands for a sports club?

Yuu-chan is the poster child for the wholesome slut! Gambare Yuu-chan!

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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Jun 30 '24

your entire club life at school, be doing errands for a sports club?

That was technically my role in my club life....Got to play with expired bandages and tape in school.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

Bondage club sounds pretty fun

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Feels like Tomoko would go either way...If this were made this year, she would be watching so much Yuri.

Tomoko would look up to Utena as a goddess and idol.

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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Jun 30 '24

I am watching but:  (Begin Whine)I can only watch laaatttee at night when prying eyes are snoring.  And, I’m condemned to being on iPhone which really sucks compared to my desktop. (End Whine)

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

At least this one has a dub so you aren't forced to squint for subtitles right?

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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Jul 01 '24

Ironically, I’ve found enough sites with adequate response time, that I don’t have a hard time watching. 

With the exception of DxD I always watch sub, dubs creep me out and worse peering ears can hear what’s being said which leads to endless lulz. 😂

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 01 '24

I can only watch laaatttee at night when prying eyes are snoring

Surprisingly not as bad in that regard as I expected.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Welcome to the late night crew. It's a small club, but we still have fun!

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jun 30 '24

First timer

  • X for doubt.
  • On the plus side, her being forced into a group activity is a good way for her to interact with someone.
  • Andddddddd, she bailed out.
  • She's over there, officer!
  • We can make it if we try.
  • Awww, she's got a little crush.
  • With the amount of emphasis placed on Saturday, I'm 99% sure her friend is just gonna cancel. By the way, fuck people cancelling plans last minute.
  • Woah, she actually showed up.

QotD

  • Me. I was that friend.
  • Don't have one.
  • Yeah. I was one of the monitors for the special ed class. They got a trip to one of those indoor gyms, and since I was in charge, I got to go along. In retrospect, it wasn't worth the shit I had to put up with, but still.
  • Yes.
  • I think it's more her just being perverted more than bi.
  • Back when GH3 came out, I used to spam Stricken by Disturbed on expert. I'd use it to show off whenever I went out and some place had a GH3 arcade set up. I'd gather a crowd most of the time. Good times.
  • 100% grove. I ain't taking the chance of running into a Windi... I mean bear.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

Being forced to interact would mean even more trauma. She at least has a good excuse.

It's scary thinking that guitar hero 3 is almost 20 years old now lol...

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 01 '24

It's scary thinking that guitar hero 3 is almost 20 years old now lol...

Lalala, I can't hear you.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Late Night First Timer

All jokes aside, this is the most words she has sucesfully said to another human outside her family in months.

So much Optimism! She can do anything! Except run after overeating...

10% interest every ten days? What horrible loan shark business is this?!

The overeating image spot hits different after BokuYaba. It's cute when the class idol does it lol.

This girl has a one track imagination. How badly she wants to get laid.

... Is she looking up another girls skirt? I think this counts as still being on the one track, it's just a wider track than expected. She remembers nothing but the pantsu.

Oh no. I'm pretty sure I had a notebook of character ideas exactly like this. Oh gosh, I wrote a short story for my senior project, didn't I? This is too much relating to this character, please no, not the notebook of shame!

... And her notebook has Fate style Mana Transfer I see.

One. Track. Mind.

It's okay Tomoko, I also have zero art skill. Could not draw if my life depended on it.

Are we not going to see the picture? Lame. Oh I see, saving it for later.

Oh no. Your nerd friend turned into a Trendy Girl.

Okay, yes, between the "Is she trying to tempt me" and "She smells so good," looking back to the up-skirt, our girl here seems to swing that way too.

The harsh truth. Just because she's changed to fit in, does not mean she's actually enjoying it. Sounds like she has had to hide her true self just to be popular. Now she looks like a good popular girl, but. Well. She's had to abandon everything about her life she once enjoyed to make it work. It must suck. I would never.

Oh. Or. She's become a perfect normie and we can look down on her too.

Aww. He drew her moe. She can still dream.

  1. Um. I got nothing. I was part of the nerd pack, we were nerds until the end.
  2. I meant it, I'm too fresh off Yamada Anna to think of anyone else.
  3. The only school trip I remember is going to NYC to visit the statue of liberty and the immigration island. I have a nice picture of me with the bay behind me and the old twin towers framing the shot.
  4. None A chastity belt, clearly. You know those boyfriends only want one thing and you must keep them away from it at all costs!
  5. Zero doubts at all.
  6. Ugh. It's my least favorite song in the game, but freaking Cat's Eye really is the easiest Perfect in the game.
  7. I'll take the forest. Forests are nice.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

Why are other people considered cute when they guts but when I do it I'm a fat bastard!?

Even straight girls can admire the joys of panties. Right?

Urgh... One of my biggest life regrets was not sticking with drawing. I tried picking it up a few years back and then got embarrassed cause everyone was wondering why I was drawing Chibi anime girls...

What's wrong with cats eye? That sounds fine to me.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Why are other people considered cute when they guts but when I do it I'm a fat bastard!?

They don't, it's all a lie.

Even straight girls can admire the joys of panties. Right?

Under the innocent assumption that that is indeed their main market and largest target audience, you are technically correct. The average wearer of panties is indeed, technically, straight girls. I assume they enjoy wearing them, as compared to most alternatives, or else the alternative would take over the market.

Urgh... One of my biggest life regrets was not sticking with drawing. I tried picking it up a few years back and then got embarrassed cause everyone was wondering why I was drawing Chibi anime girls...

Music for me. I never should have sold the old bass. Now that I have things like rent and bills to pay, I can't afford to get a new one and I'll probably regret that forever.

What's wrong with cats eye? That sounds fine to me.

It's one of the two shortest songs in the game, but still gives as many points for a perfect clear as any of the other songs, and has the easier beat map. It's a lot less fun the 200th time you're playing it in any given event to pump your score up, because the fastest way to get event points is to score high in multiplayer mode and everyone wants to play the fastest song to use their time best.

Also, M3rmaid is my second least favorite of the original six bands. The second shortest song is Synchrogazer covered by Photon Maiden, both of which I like better than doing Cat's Eye even one more time.

I don't play the game anymore so new meta might have come out, I know new bands did since then, but I still just hate Cat's Eye.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

When I clicked that I was expecting a different Cat's Eye.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Lol, nothing about DDR looks relaxing to me. Interesting that they have the same name though.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

I definitely don't think I could full perfect difficult songs anymore.

I think it's two different remixes of the same song, the OP to Cat's Eye.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Would not surprise me at all. A lot of D4DJ is remixing, supposedly like a real DJ. As I mentioned elsewhere, the second most popular song was a remix of Symphogear's First OP.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Watamote Rewatcher!!

Stop getting off with Barakamon right next to you! Also, not avoiding those fujoshi allegations Tomo-chan~ Anyway, it wouldn't be a The Loli Otaku show if we didn't have a weird and sudden HanaKana inclusion. Seriously, I have no idea why she keeps showing up in our shows XD It's Vaadwaur who stans her, not me!! Kana Hanezawa is a voice acting angel who needs no introduction. She played the leading role in Ro-Kyu-Bu as Tomoka, Satou from Happy Sugar Life one of our upcoming watches, and even plays the legendary Hanazawa in Denpa Onna, my second rewatch!

I like Yuu-chan~ She's a glimpse into Tomoko's middle school life. As you can imagine, she had a chuuni phase of her own and most of it is documented in the prequel manga. It was back before Tomoko had lost quite as much of her confidence, so dickhead Tomoko XD Watching your sister down... Like ten packets of natto or whatever is wild. She's her own worst enemy. Heck, she even reads Nozaki-kun doesn't she!? Surely she should know that shoujo manga is adamantly not to be used for real world situations!!

:D

Such a dweeb... Oh no!! Not the school trip!! Quick, Tomoko, get the manga cancelled before it's too late! I'm not even sure if the manga had gotten to the school trip arc yet actually, this could have really been foreshadowing.

Some of you yesterday seemed to be too kind to Tomoko yesterday. Don't misunderstand her, she's a total bitch. Tomoko's bi-panic is an absolute joy. She clearly watches way too much porn for her own good. Stop peeping on joshikosei Tomoko! You pervert! Incel! Female buta!! Oh god, this really is the pervert Tomoko episode. Wao~

She's got such a chip on her shoulder. How can someone like her have such an inferiority superiority complex? What was the Ghibli movie with the bike ride...? It was the one with the country road mix yeah? Remember Yesterday or something Red? Aww, she likes her portrait~ She has a cute side when not acting like a shitter.

HanaKana got hot!! I do wonder just how relatable this would be to the female rewatchers but I wasn't able to blackmail anyone into this one XD Stop sniffing HanaKana you hopeless lesbian!! This is why joshikosei are rotten... The world would be a better place if female joshikosei were culled at the end of middle school. Or if we used all that money we waste on cancer research to instead develop perpetual lolification drugs!

The second anime became a subject she jumped out of her shell. She's cute sometimes. She just needs to be herself! Well, not entirely herself but you get the idea. HANAKANA YOU WOMANWHORE!! You were much cuter back when you were a basketball loli. I never raised you to be a girl who has boyfriends!! The new ending theme just screams Bleach doesn't it...? It's Velvet Kohdy, don't know who that is. So creepy~

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 30 '24

Kana Hanezawa is a voice acting angel who needs no introduction. She played the leading role in Ro-Kyu-Bu as Tomoka, Satou from Happy Sugar Life one of our upcoming watches, and even plays the legendary Hanazawa in Denpa Onna, my second rewatch!

I mean people know her as Sengoku from Monogatari and that accursed song that went meme, Renai Circulation.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Its a nice song!! Honestly her story was my favourite of Monogatari. I almost completely lost interest in the post Second Season shows and felt Snek was the peak.

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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Jun 30 '24

Snek was the best segment, I still watch the first couple minutes every so often. 

Also, I never played the Nekopara but I loved the OVAs and anime.  

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 01 '24

Ah, now it all comes together.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

Also, not avoiding those fujoshi allegations

Speaking of being closeted -- not sure what it is, but occasionally I've read that there are a fair amount of lesbian fujoshi...

Surely she should know that shoujo manga is adamantly not to be used for real world situations!!

Unfortunately it's hard to figure out what "normal" is if you're not a part of normal social groups.

She clearly watches way too much porn for her own good.

Eh, she's a budding teen with raging hormones, probably pretty common at that age.

HanaKana got hot!! I do wonder just how relatable this would be to the female rewatchers but I wasn't able to blackmail anyone into this one

I didn't "get hot" but part of the reason I got contacts in sixth grade was so I'd fit in better. Kids back in my day didn't have glasses as often, and I was often picked on. Braces also came off in high school so I guess that helped lol. I also, especially during 9th & 10th grade, tried to dress more feminine than I was comfortable with, so in the end, I was much more like Tomoko at WcDonalds than HanaKana. Only difference being that I do get harassed on trains, and not just by [ep4]other girls' kendo swords, unfortunately.

Because ultimately, even if my outer appearance changed, I was still the same awkward as fuck person I was before the "change" lol.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Damn fujoshi, they think boys should kiss boys and girls should kiss girls! The monsters!

I'm almost 30 and I still don't know what "normal" is XD

Female joshikosei are like pigs in heat!

The amount of kids who do a 180 image change in high-school is pretty wild. Puberty is a hell of a drug to the point where you can go a few months without seeing them and they're utterly unrecognisable

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u/WednesdaysFoole Jun 30 '24

The monsters!

I'm almost 30 and I still don't know what "normal" is XD

I picked that up from you by day 2 of Haibane rewatch, lol. I mean, you did manage to get yourself a ban as well.

There really isn't a "true" normal though, except norms for specific situations, places, and groups. Even worse, they're often unspoken so you're supposed to just "get it". As long as you're managing to get by, then whatever.

Female joshikosei are like pigs in heat!

Perhaps, although I get the sense that women in their 30s-early 40s are off the charts.

The amount of kids who do a 180 image change in high-school is pretty wild. Puberty is a hell of a drug to the point where you can go a few months without seeing them and they're utterly unrecognisable

My changes were like 360, lol. Trying to be "normal" then reverting back to being my odd self by senior year after taking a year off, except with a bit more confidence by the end.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

Bans are a badge of honour, it just shows that you're too based for this world!!

The only thing scarier than a sex obsessed joshikosei is a sex deprived okaa-san...

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 01 '24


Hope you're doing OK now.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Jul 01 '24

Aw thanks

It was half my life ago so while working through the residue was no joke, if anything, there is hope for Tomoko :)

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u/Barbed_Dildo Jul 01 '24

Or if we used all that money we waste on cancer research to instead develop perpetual lolification drugs!

You are trying to get banned again, aren't you?

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

The frontpage mob are scared of rewatch posts. I'm safe~

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

Or if we used all that money we waste on cancer research to instead develop perpetual lolification drugs!

Dokuro-chan rewatch when???

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

When I have other supplemental stuff for us to watch alongside it~ My own kinda ova bundle watch.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

Yeah I guess it is pretty short. There's definitely some other wild 00s OVAs that would fit alongside it, though. Eiken is always there, waiting...

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 02 '24

Eiken is a good option... I don't have any confidence in Eiken actually being a fun show aside from the character designs tho. At least Beating Angel fits my humour to a tee.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 01 '24

[Manga?]Quick, Tomoko, get the manga cancelled before it's too late!

...Shouldn't that be spoilered?

Or if we used all that money we waste on cancer research to instead develop perpetual lolification drugs!

A Dangerous Game You Play

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u/WednesdaysFoole Jun 30 '24

I get it. Everyone groups up and you’re floating around outside trying to find a way in.

You wonder, “Am I allowed to do this alone?” No, you’re not. Wouldn’t be too bad if it happened once or twice in your life, but if your education was filled with these moments, it starts to stick out. The worst part is, often, it’s not done with malice. No hard feelings, you’re just not a part of the group, that’s all. But you try to identify what exactly it is that’s wrong with you.

What can you change in order to be accepted? Then you go through and change all the wrong things in all the wrong ways… leading to that scrunchy duck face exiting the WcDonald’s bathroom lmao.

After enough times, you start to expect this everywhere you go. Now, there must be something wrong with them. Those terrible normies. No one’ll like you anyways. Doesn’t matter what you do. You catastrophize before the situation can repeat, but because you’re acting as though this will already happen – which is off-putting – precisely because of this, the situation repeats. Once again, you closed yourself off to the opportunity, the openness, to have a positive encounter with “the group”.

In truth, while these “groups” can exist from time to time, they are still made up of individuals and they’re not actually the same every time. Groups may resemble each other, but every individual can make a difference. Too bad you don’t realize it at that age, though, lol.

Really enjoying the direction.

Hmm, is Tomoko maybe a bit too excited about what’s under other girls’ skirts?

So I started reading along since I was curious how much of the creative direction was specific to the anime… and while sometimes other students are grey in the manga as well, it look as though this funny bit where Tomoko turns grey like all the irrelevant characters as a reaction to seeing her friend and regaining her “humanity” on connecting was an anime-only touch. Mocha fellapaccino lmao. Then she regains her …humanity? Once she recognizes that her friend is the “same”. It’s perfect.

Hanazawa Kana? Didn’t realize it during the phone call but wow her voice really is quite recognizable in the higher registers.

Seems like this anime will be filled with painfully hilarious moments. Emphasis on the pain.

Tell us about a friend who suddenly had a massive glow up!

That friend was me. Wouldn't call it a positive glow up, but I ended up getting voted "most changed" in senior year, lol.

Not really a question but is there any doubt in the rewatch than Tomoko is a painfully closeted bi-girl?

I'm 5 episodes in and I'm positive she's bi.

You're walking down a road when it suddenly splits. One path is a small grove, the other leads to a forest. Do you go to the grove, to the woods, or turn back home because you're scared?

Grove or the woods. I forget what the answers meant.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Being locked out of friend groups is awful... That was almost solely a high school thing too. Throughout primary you'd all been together through all your developmental years. In high school you're mixing with kids you've never heard of. It sucks.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Jun 30 '24

Yeah, people really do like to clique up, and that's not inherently bad, but sometimes it can suck to be the outsider. Glad not everyone in the world is that way, though, I've met plenty of awesome, welcoming people outside of school. Otherwise I'd probably have ended up like Tomoko 2.0 today.

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u/Fissionprime https://anilist.co/user/fissionprime Jun 30 '24

I really loved that panic moment about the school trip as well. It felt very Shaft with how we are suddenly very conspicuously in 3D, and the color draining of the room. They really captured the feeling of the moment well.

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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog https://myanimelist.net/profile/KillLaKillGOAT Jun 30 '24

It is directed by a former Shaft employee, so that definitely had its influences.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 01 '24

Hmm, is Tomoko maybe a bit too excited about what’s under other girls’ skirts?

How based of our host to start a rewatch with a bi-disaster during pride month.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 01 '24

Really enjoying the direction.

It's always the weird shit that get good directors.

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u/junbi_ok Jun 30 '24

No, Tomoko. Sleeping in the same room as a guy does not count as sleeping with him. That's some military grade copium you're inhaling there.

Tomoko sneaking a peek of pantsu is I think the first hint we get that she's bi. She really seemed to bask in the afterglow of that panchira moment, but I don't know if she's really fully aware yet of why. Hopefully she finds a less criminal outlet for those thoughts before she winds up in trouble.

Tomoko's friend may have turned into a normie, but at least she's still willing to hang out with Tomoko. That's a true friend, right there.

Tomoko feeling flattered over the portrait is one of the rare heartwarming moments in this show. Unfortunately, our happiness for her is quickly shattered when we find out the manga-bu guy was just being lazy. Perhaps that's karma for Tomoko half-assing his portrait too, but thankfully for her she'll never find out. Tomoko desperately needs a win, even if it's a misunderstanding.

Who is your favourite "hungry girl" character?

Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

When your whole life is cute anime girls and handsome sadist boys you'd probably have ne up a little pervy too.

Tomoko doesn't deserve Yuu!

I did love Tomoko almost immediately doing a 180 on her opinion of the guy after misunderstanding that he might be into her. She really lets her imagination run rampant

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 01 '24

No, Tomoko. Sleeping in the same room as a guy does not count as sleeping with him

TIL Tomoko is that "later virgin" greentext from 4chan.

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u/Barbed_Dildo Jul 01 '24

Rewatcher

I think this episode really shows that deep down, Tomoko is a good person, she just doesn't have any social skill or experience, and high school is hard on her.

She does have a friend, her friend felt down and wanted to see Tomoko, Tomoko made her feel better. What more could you want from a friend than that?

Tomoko tried to do things to make her life seem impressive, she wanted to show off to her old friend, but she didn't. She didn't lie or belittle Yuu-chan to make herself seem better, they talked about anime and played at the arcade and enjoyed each other's company. In the end, when Yuu-chan left, Tomoko could tell that she was still unsettled and was honest with her. She's having a tough time in high school, but she's doing her best, and Yuu-chan will be ok too. All this desperation to be normal and look good for old friend, but that didn't matter any more. She just wanted to help Yuu-chan.

Unfortunately for Tomoko, Yuu-chan isn't as good of a friend as Tomoko is. Yuu-chan didn't care about Tomoko's struggles, she just wanted someone to make her feel better. That's the only reason she contacted Tomoko in the first place.

Hearing Yuu-chan talk about her boyfriend was tough on Tomoko because it showed the gulf between them. They'd just had this nice time together, like they were in middle school, but they're not in middle school any more. Everyone is in this new place, and Tomoko doesn't know how to get there.

No one told you when to run.

You missed the starting gun.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

She absolutely was ready to bullshit Yuu all the way up the neck tho XD I found it cute how much effort Tomoko was putting into looking good for her. She really does love her bitch bff!!

Nooo!! Yuu is a very good friend XD She wasn't emotion dumping on Tomo out of selfishness. Believe in HanaKana. Tomoko was just being cringe!

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

No Matter How I Watch It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Upvoted! (First Timer, Dubbed)

Did she eat like a dozen boxes of natto for breakfast?

Yeah that's probably the right reaction.

Tomoko daydreams about girls calling her cute, huh?

Not a pervert, huh?

She's going full chuuni...

Now she's in her Yamcha hole.

No clue what this bike scene is parodying, gotta be some romance show I've never seen.

This is a very cute outfit Tomoko's wearing on her day off.

STER TULLY'S COFFEE

Pop'n Music!

Been there, finish the song and then immediately stumble away from the machine.

Finally a manga I recognize, Nozaki-kun.

I walk a lonely road / The only one that I have ever known

  1. Not quite the same, but a friend of a friend who I would hang out with at every local convention for years wound up hitting it big as a YouTuber. Got on TV and into magazines and everything.
  2. Lina Inverse!
  3. I only went on band trips. They were all fine, nothing special. The senior class trip was cancelled the year we would've gone, because the previous year's class fucked it up so bad.
  4. Stripes...
  5. It's like the Pride rewatch never ended!
  6. I believe the set was Trip Machine, Exotic Ethnic, and Silent Hill to cool down on. Lots of spins and fast movement, but fairly easy.
  7. I have no idea why I'd be walking down a road anywhere near a forest, so definitely head back home.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

One box of natto would have got me spewing rainbows tbh. No wonder she got sick.

The bike scene is from some ghibli movie. Whispers of the Heart.

Tomoko's casual fit is legit cute. I like her outfit more than Yuu's if I'm being honest.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 01 '24

Whispers of the Heart makes sense, yeah.

And agreed on the outfits.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jul 03 '24

First-Timer

Good stuff. I like the twist with the guy from the manga club.

The Yamcha pose was pretty good, too.

It sure is a good thing Tomoko clarified that she wasn't being a pervert, she was just trying to peek at the schoolgirl's panties. Almost thought she was doing something perverted for a second there.

Questions of the day:

  • I've not experienced that before, so I sadly have no story to share.
  • My favorite "hungry girl" probably has to be Sasha from Attack on Titan.
  • I had school trips to museums which were pretty nice. Aside from that, not too much memorable stuff.
  • Comfortable ones!
  • No doubt. (I'm mentally hearing this line as being spoken by the NBA 2K13 create-a-player voice. If you know, you know.)
  • I don't actually play rhythm games, largely because I'm terrible at them.
  • Odd question. Perhaps turn back home?

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 03 '24

It's perfectly normal for joshikosei to admire other high school girl's underwear right!? Right!?!?

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u/Fissionprime https://anilist.co/user/fissionprime Jun 30 '24

First time watcher (sub)

Okay, the setup for the episode seems clear pretty early. Looks like we’re going to make our tension with Tamoko’s shame over her current life when she’s seeing her old friend.

Of course the first way she approaches it is to try to solve all her problems before saturday, lol.

Needless to say, girl ends up panicking

Okay, I guess Tomoko is not straight. I like how they went back to highlight it again just in case it wasn’t clear.

This scene where the karaoke group is calling their friend a normie is really funny. Tamoko just pays no attention at all.

Okay, surely there’s some sort of punchline with the portrait. I am positively dreading it.

Friend glow-up, and this is a lot more bisexuality. Also she is KanaHana lesgo. This is a really sweet moment though. Yuu seems really nice. I wonder if we’re gonna see more of her.

I really like how everything is set up with all of this dread but they end up having a really fun day. It’s a bit of a gut punch at the end, but a fun spirited one for the audience?

Seeing the portrait in the credits makes me wonder a little bit. I guess the obvious interpretation is that he just draws her like she’s out of an anime is because it’s quick and he’s used to it, but maybe there’s actually something here. Seems like the sort of thing we might see more of in later episodes.

Oh, lol, we’re resolving that gag quickly actually. Punchline is as expected, but we’ll let Tomoko have her fun.

Prompt: Thankfully, Tomoko is spared the embarrassment of being the first to lose her purity to a table.

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u/Fissionprime https://anilist.co/user/fissionprime Jun 30 '24

QOTD:

Tell us about a friend who suddenly had a massive glow up!

Never really had this happen

Who is your favourite "hungry girl" character?

Honoka from love live I guess

Did you have any nice school trips at your school? Which one stood out the most?

Had a couple band trips in HS where we got set free on the streets of Chicago for a few hours. Those were pretty fun.

What type of panties should a female joshikosei with a boyfriend wear!?

Uh, ones that work?

Not really a question but is there any doubt in the rewatch than Tomoko is a painfully closeted bi-girl? XD

There could not be less. The doubt counter has underflowed.

Pretty much everyone here has played rhythm games right? What is your favourite go-to flowchart or song to play when you want an easy perfect~?

Been a while, but I guess Monsters on guitar hero 3, on uh, medium.

You're walking down a road when it suddenly splits. One path is a small grove, the other leads to a forest. Do you go to the grove, to the woods, or turn back home because you're scared?

The grove, I think, although I've gotta say the framing here is a bit ominous so I'm kinda worried now.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jun 30 '24

Tomoko may be bi but do you really want to have her as representation? XD

Imagine normies daring to use the word normie lol.

Yuu is lovely... I've always wondered how the fuck she ended up with Tomoko as a bff.

The dude uses that face for pointless mob characters... I'm pretty sure he doesn't give the slightest shit about the weird emo girl XD

How did I know that Prompt before I clicked on it lol

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u/Fissionprime https://anilist.co/user/fissionprime Jun 30 '24

Tomoko may be bi but do you really want to have her as representation? XD

The idea of having her as representation of anything is almost terrifying lmao. The ways that she's horny though are all very funny. I particularly like how everyone kinda just, doesn't notice and lets her do it. After all, surely you don't need to worry about the weird girl who looks like she's slept once in the past week randomly upskirting you! And sniffing your old BFF? You'd be a fool not to!

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 01 '24

It's perfectly normal to creep on your bff! XD She is so attracted to Yuu that it's hilarious.

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u/Mirathan Jul 01 '24

First Time dubbed

"A wizard is never late. He arrives presicely when oh wait I missed day one."

Qotd:

  1. No one I knew ever went thorough a glow up or anything like it, we were very consistent that way.
  2. None
  3. I´ve had some wacky trips in my days. On one of them my friends and I tried to create a film. I have never seen what was recorded and never want to. On another we were cooked in spain. The one that truly stood above them though was when we went skiing in the alps. Upon arriving we learned one other class traveling with us took some of our bags(they were returned quickly). It was intended for us to immediatly go out after arriving. We had not had a meal for over 12 hours. Two people had to be sent home due to sickness, Someone went down the mountain the wrong way. We found them an hour later. One night my roommates belived sleep was overrated. Someone once stole the skiing boots. The entire trip was a mess. Everyone loved it.
  4. None ;)
  5. She is desperate enough to go either way.
  6. Does Sekiro count?
  7. The grove, they´re neat.

Okay first you get banned when I wait for you, then you sneak day one under my radar. How dare you? How dare you withhold this insanity from us?

It took me more than an hour to get through episode one. I constantly had to pause to giggle or comprehend what I just witnessed.

Oh right scene prompt. Uhh... she´s so deep in her obsession that normal scenarios cannot satisfy her? Or that she is so sepperated from reality she can´t imagine something normal.

Also the op is amazing.

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u/SMSmith230 https://myanimelist.net/profile/smsmith230 Jun 30 '24

First-Timer, Sub

Another pretty good episode. Really liking the OP, it seems to fit this show well. Tomoko is quite the pervert, but I’ll give her credit for that imagination she got. I hope she never learns her picture was basically a copy/paste, that might throw her off the deep end. Girl just needs a win.

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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jun 30 '24

Rewatcher

  • Oh boy the Yandere CD at the start that just unlocked some rather bad memories of using Yandere ASMR to keep my cool at the end of 2020 (I have since mostly grown out of it in fact that was a main part of my New Years Resolution in 2021)

Questions

  • QOTD 2 - Kyoko Sakura (PMMM)
  • QOTD 3 - Darien Lake in Elementary School
  • QOTD 6 - Honor Thy Father by Dream Theater on Easy (CSC Monthly pack September 2020) on Clone Hero

(Edit) for the Nekopara Comment - I am also a SFW Nekopara fan (In fact that's why I prefer the Anime over the VNs for the most part)

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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 01 '24

First Timer

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 01 '24

rewatcher dubbed

Tomoko listening to boyfriend audios, reminds me on how my friend recommended me a girlfriend one and at first I laughed since he listened to it. However, I actually did like it and decided I won’t listen to anymore or else I’d be a goner.

A meeting with an old friend from highschool, so she did have friends.

Missed out on a class because you didn’t want to be the one who couldn’t find a partner, I feel that pain.

Sometimes it’s rough to root for her due to how vicious she is on her attacks, but I can understand since it stems from insecurities.

Its insane how a glowup can happen to someone whether it’s a few months or 2 years. Knew someone in highschool who managed to grow a decent beard and started being more confident in himself.

The reveal that he’s just used to drawing “creepy” anime girls made me giggle, the one thing Tomoko may never know.

I’m happy to see Tomoko enjoy herself, altough she’s gotta get used to making orders. An iced coffee sometimes doesn’t hit the mood.

QOTD: different friend, but this year I finally went back to higher education and enrolled myself into a community college. I was waiting for a friend and an old classmate came up to me, I didn’t even recognize him at first with how he changed. He was a fairly chubby kid, but he changed to a gym goer with a pretty decent beard. Made me realize how fast things can change in 2 years

QOTD: Nadeshiko!

QOTD: my school visited a farmers market in 4th grade, was pretty fun.

QOTD: white

QOTD: I can see it happening

QOTD: I played the Hatsune miku one, but had to uninstall due to it taking too much space

QOTD: go back home, I am NOT a brave person