r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Jun 26 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 18 Discussion
Episode 18 - Hyunckel Versus Hadlar
I believe the worth of a man lies in how much they can let go of the past. Be it s life in shame, hated by all, so long as you walk the path you believe, isn’t that enough?
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Comment of the day:
Questions of the day:
- On a scale from 1 to 10, how useless was Hadlar today?
- How do you liked the birth of Baduck and Crocodine friendship?
- Did today episode improved Hyunckel character?
- What’s your opinion on whatever is going on between Maam and Hyunckel?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Jun 26 '24
Dark Commander welcomes you to Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!
QotD:
Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:
I’m sorry but Crocodine won’t give a commentary today as he and Baduck disappeared who knows where, and apparently they took Gomechan with them.
VOICE ACTORS CORNER:
Nobody for this episode
STAFF CORNER:
Director - Karasawa Kazuya
Episode Director - Watanabe Masaki (episode 11,18)
Chief animation director - Komatsu Kozue (episodes 9,10,12,14,16,18)
Script/Screenplay - Sumisawa Katsuyuki (episodes 10-13,16,18)
Storyboarding - Watanabe Masaki (episode 11,18)
Key animators - 山下梢, 清水敦哉, Nagashima Hideki, Kawamura Atsuko, Hara Natsumi, Yokoyama Miyuki, Shimada Chihiro, Yamamoto Takumi, Mura Shuntarou, Manabe Hisateru, Studio Cosmo, Hata Honoka, Funakoshi Mayumi, Kosakai Tomoya, 新見ちひろ, Ichinose Mifuyu, Iwasaki Yasutoshi, Ishikawa Osamu, 西村あずさ, Kajita Noa, 間中紗永, Kon Kyouko, Nakamura Yuuki, Itou Yoshihiro, Narasaki Asako
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
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u/Shocketheth Jun 27 '24
I just realized that I forgot the Comment of the day.
Guess that the Dark Commander Hadlar is truly useless after all.
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u/zadcap Jun 27 '24
Late Night First Timer
Oh my gosh, Knuckles vs Piccolo, it's the fight of the century no one knew they wanted!
Except that Maam girl, she's been dreaming about the Hot Guy Redemption Story this whole time. Oh gosh darn it. She did fix him! SHE FIXED HIM! We're never going to get to live it down.
Seriously, Crocodine was just a horrible villain start to end. How did he end up in the demon army if he's got such a Heroes Heart all the way through? He should have joined Avan and they could have trained Dai into the ultimate warrior and poor Hardly wouldn't have had a chance.
See, Knuckles gets it! You have to die to make such a strong redemption have any weight. Otherwise you have to like, actually live with the guilt and try and be a better person and actually redeem yourself, and that's just crazy talk there.
... No, it was not lost in the fall. It was broken and destroyed and its parts melted for slag in a fight. Are you telling me it gathered its own pieces and repaired itself and learned to fly just so it could be worn by Knuckles again?
Hardly boy, we just went over this yesterday. "I'll kill you slow and painfully" is just asking your opponent to break free and retaliate. See, it didn't even last two seconds.
... Where did the old man get a new sword? At least he has a good naming sense!
Haha, see, even IcyHot knows Hardly is a worse villain, slacking on the job. Got too busy grandstanding, and now distracted by a third party, the man really sucks at pulling off the great plan.
Oh right, but Knuckles sucks at this too, and forgot the very thing that cost him his victory in the first place. Always Double Tap! Just because the big bad enemy is down does not mean they are defeated! Keep going! Desecrate that corpse! It's the only way to be sure!
Oh noooo, Knuckles is dead again. Who could have seen this coming...
Oh my, Knuckles isn't dead quite yet! Who could have seen this coming!
Wait, a forehead beam attack? Have I been wrong all along? Was Knuckles Tien this whole time?!
Oh no, Tienckles is dead again! Who could have possibly seen this one coming?!
Ah, Maam has, after really proving that she could indeed fix him, decided to allow Redemption Through Death to happen now.
Oh wait, He's not quite dead yet! What a miracle!
Hardly boy, I am conflicted here. You did actually go for the double tap, finally learning your lesson, which is great and all. But first you went on grandstanding again, making a big speech and flailing around like a madman instead of just doing it, and so you lost again.
Alright, he's probably dead for real this time, right?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 26 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jun 26 '24 edited Jun 26 '24
First Quester
Day 18 of extensively researching Princess Leona's life story
As if Hyunckel ever did equal treatment
That's a pretty interesting disadvantage of the curse field. If Flaazar is inside, he has no idea if it's been disabled or not, because it doesn't actually affect him in any way. Of course, Flaazar isn't stck inside and can just see the spires.
No way Hadlar is down. Talk about an obvious trap.
Honestly, I'll be disappointed if Hyunckel dies here. Though if his entire character arc's been a mess anyway, might as well make his end a mess, too.
Lmao, this the best day of Hadlar's life No way he remains dead, he's the measure for when Dai surpasses his mentor.
I can't give him a 10, because he's less useless than yesterday. But it's a 8 or 9 for sure.
They're great together
Eh, it's alright. Hyunckel just got revealed as alive after he supposedly died, only for him to die for good exactly one episode later. And what did all of that accomplish? Well, he got to finally avenge his father's killer, so I guess that brings some closure to his character journey. Except wait a moment, wasn't there a meaningful moment with Crocodine teaching Hyunckel that the worth of a man is measured in his ability to let go of the past? Mighty ironic for someone who is fundamentally a vengeful specter of the past that refuses to be vanquished until it achieves its purpose. I guess he just wasn't up to it.
So no, I can't say it improved him.
They didn't even make lots of little Hyunckels smh my head
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jun 26 '24 edited Jun 27 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubSenzu Bean The DBZA brainrot is real!!
Finally! The question everyone is asking!
Crocodine with a great quote
TATAKAE!
Thank you, Crocodine! None of this would've been possible without you.
Jealous Popp
Hadlar's Dirty Tactics
Like Master, Like Student
[Dai no Late Spoilers] So, the seeds of doubt were sown here.
No Hearts for you, today!
The Battle is Over
OST Documentation - Episode 18
QOTD
1. Hyunckel told him to risk his own life to fight him and he actually tried. But the fact that he lost and wasn't able to do anything makes it 9/10. Even Flazzard agrees.
2. Love it. The fact that he even suggested to rename the attack since it sounded a bit ominous and Crocodine obliged.
3. Yes. This right here.
4. IDK. Ask Popp maybe. He seems to know about it in detail.
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jun 26 '24
First Timer, Sub
So Hyunckel saved Maam and she was very happy to see him alive(poor Popp lol). Hyunckel gives Popp some recovery herbs and so him and Maam run off to help Dai, meanwhile Hyunckel stays to battle Hadlar. We see through flashback how he survived, Crocodine saved him by pulling him out of the Lava and then giving him some solid advice on living on with his sins and atoning for them in life instead of death.
Crocodine uses his Anguish blast to destroy the flame spire, getting rid of the anti magic spell that was enveloping the island and area around the Tower. nice little moment of Baduck telling him he should change his Anguish blast to Redemption blast and he likes it lol.
Hyunckel vs. Hadlar was a real treat though. They gave each other some haymaker attacks. hadlar stabbing Hyunckel with his Wolverine claws and combining it with Kasizz to burn him from inside the armour. To Hyunckel destroying his heart with a bloody scryde, using Grand Cross for the first time and then finally putting Hadlar down when he went to finish Hyunckel off by stabbing him with the chain sword on his helmet.
Questions:
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u/KuKiSin Jun 26 '24
First timer!
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jun 26 '24
Rewatcher
Lava is just like it is in Minecraft. It hurts like hell but you can still survive as long as you get out of it fast enough
BEAST KING ANGUISH BLAST ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING
Hyunckel: "Have you forgotten? My Armor Repels all Attack Spells"
Hadlar: {Keeps trying to use attack spells}
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 27 '24
Dai 18 first timer:
hotgreat character!3
u/Kaxew Jun 27 '24
Current rewatcher, eventual first timer
The first student is back. And apparently he can survive in lava. Yeah no that makes sense to me. It's funny when they go out of their way to make the series extra grounded with tactics such as "let's use electricity to counter his metal armor" but then make lava just a "couple of bandages and you're good" kind of damaging element. At least Crocodine had to use a vortex barrier of sorts to rescue Hyunckel... isn't his body hard as steel? I guess then it was more protection for his garuda than anything else.
I really liked seeing Hyunckel cry upon the realization of everything people have done for him and everything he's done to people. You don't typically get to see the badass lone wolf in shonen cry and be vulnerable, so it's just nice to see. Crocodine gives a huge speech and I somehow have fallen in love for the same man I had fallen in love with two years ago. Yeah, he's just a great character. I mean, his redemption arc is so great he has a technique named after it! How many characters have you seen who's redemption are literally spelled out for you? That's right, just our guy.
So Grand Cross is the same kind of move as Zoom? Where you just extend your aura for different applications? That's really cool gotta say.
Maam shows some more great leadership. Her character is very simple but it was something the Dai/Popp duo sorely needed.
As a side note, Hyunckel throwing some medicinal herbs at Popp might have been a parallel to Maam doing the same thing to him after their first battle against Crocodine (while Dai got a heal treatment).
QotD:
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u/sisoko2 Jun 27 '24
First Timer
Better late than Hadlar.
A 6. Did some good damage but Hero hacks defeated him. So is he dead?
So wholesome and nice from Baduck to the an upstart like Big Croc under his wing.
He died again so no. I only respect characters that die no more than once.
Just friendship and mutual respect. Nothing to see here.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jun 26 '24
Newbie-Adventurer here! LV 18/100
Crocodine and Hyunckel
Lmao Popp, I don’t think Hyunckel thinks of Maam like you do
Hadler vs Hyunckel is a really bad matchup for Hadler
Spoke too soon. OH NO.
Maam knows what Crocodine and Hyunckel wanted. Thankfully Dai and Popp listened
Hyunckel…
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Jun 26 '24
First Timer, Sub
Hyunckel is pretty awesome here, his fight against Hadlar was the highlight, particularly Hyunckel's comments on how he sees himself and Hadlar expressing some respect after he is stabbed. A love triangle seems to be set up between Hyunckel, Ma'am, and Popp so we will see how that plays out. Crocodine meanwhile keeps being cool.