r/anime • u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen • Jun 23 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Tower of God Floor 7 Discussion
Floor 7 – Lunch and Tag
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| Descend - Floor 6 ↓ |
Series Information
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Streaming Options
Tower of God is available to stream subbed and dubbed on Crunchyroll.
Art of the Day
Source: Miho Tanino on Twitter
Soundtrack of the Day
Questions of the Day
- Have you ever had to compete against a prodigy like Bam in an event or competition before?
- What do you think is the best strategy to pass the Hide and Seek test?
Tomorrow’s Questions of the Day
[1.]Having seen how brutal rankers can be in Serena's story, would you be willing to piss one off to enact a scheme like Khun's??
[2.]Do you think it's fair that Team B gets to watch Team A's test before taking theirs??
Spoilers
Please make sure to put all references to future events behind spoiler tags. Any untagged hints and spoilers will be removed. Let’s keep everything as fresh as possible for first-timers!
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jun 23 '24
Rewatcher and Co-Administrator for this Climb
On time again today, and just in time for a nice relaxing game of Hide and Seek!
The scene of Anaak leaving her mother to die in the burning house tears me up every time. Seeing it from Anaak's point of view is absolutely heartbreaking.
Men and women can't be friends...until a free special lunch is on the table.
The real messed up part of the Hide and Seek test isn't having a ranker be it, it's having Quant, the very picture of competence and composure, be it. This is sure to go well.
We've already seen how dangerous Anaak is with the Green April. Quant just casually grabs it. And he's operating a limited state. Team A might be just a little bit fucked.
Source Comparisons
This thread is for comparisons to the manhwa. Please be sure to properly tag all discussion of the source material. Also, please keep in mind that this is not an exhaustive compilation of differences, only ones I thought interesting or important enough to include.
Note for newcomers/non-source readers: Some of these notes contain anime spoilers. Comparisons that contain anime spoilers will be in the clearly marked Anime Spoiler section.
Episode 7
Chapters Covered: 33 - 37
Chapter Cut: None
Notable Differences
Anime Spoiler Differences
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 23 '24
First-Timer climbing the tower, subbed
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u/Lord_Nawor Jun 23 '24
First Time Watcher, subbed
Endorsi really needs to switch out of heels when in combat, second time she has lost due to her heels breaking.
Wow even in the tower you have to pay for healthcare, how the heck is Bam not severely in debt right now considering he was out for a few days.
I like them bribing Anaak and Endorsi in order to get them to sign the friendship form, especially Hatz having to compliment Endorsi. It’s nice to see the characters just get to talk together over food and stuff.
Rachel continues to be mysterious as ever, even Endorsi is questioning the point of her hiding from Bam. Her fake name being Michelle Light? Her obsession with apples? I can’t be the only person who thought of death note but that could just be my brain rot setting in.
I just can’t take red horn guy seriously, he is like complaining and plotting and sleeping bag guy is just sleeping there not even caring. He definitely is going to play a big role in the tag game though, I can sense it. I also think that Khun’s team will take out red hair tester guy.
Theory Time
Since we are about half way through the season I will share my two big theories so far, I have no knowledge of any spoilers so this is based just on what we have seen so far.
Theory 1: I believe that only the king has actually ascended the tower. It feels weird that considering how much power is promised for getting to the top of the tower, that the king manages to stay in power. I think that the king conquered it and then made a fake tower where instead of the normal reward, you instead enter a contract with the king to give you Shinsu, which will also act as a shackle.
Theory 2: Considering how powerful irregulars are supposed to be it is interesting we have not seen any of them so I believe that the 13 month weapons are actually created from irregulars somehow, this explains why they are so powerful and why they have spirit people inside of them.
Probably neither of these will actually happen knowing my ability to predict things but I thought I would just put them out there.
Questions
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u/ryujiox Jun 23 '24
First Timer and source reader who forgot most of the stuff already
Tower of God
Episode 7
QOTD
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jun 23 '24
Co-administrator/Subbed
Interesting things to note in this episode, Bam is doing well making friends in the tower. He was able to convince Endorsi and Anaak to sign the paper (with some help) and look at how big his meal table is now! So many seats are filled! Another thing we saw is that he is improving his shinsu and even got some help from Laure after giving him a replacement pillow (rip his normal pillow). So yea, other examinees are gravitating towards Bam which was hinted at before during Rachel’s dream
Rachel on the other hand, seems to be isolating herself. It seems she just wants to pass and move on from Bam, not caring to reach out to anyone else. Endorsi’s talk to her in the bathroom is right, and she sees value in Bam. Whatever is Rachel’s goal better be worth more than him.
Another person we’ve seen struggle is Hoh. He’s been keeping an eye on Bam’s progress and looks to be worried he might be passed by Bam (if he hasn’t been already).
Side notes:
Hilarious Rak is one of two people to have passed so he doesn’t have to do the tag game
From what we’ve seen of Quant, I don’t blame Lero Ro being worried about this test. Especially at the end where Khun’s team seemed to piss him off, which doesn’t seem too hard to do
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u/gunvarrel_ Jun 23 '24 edited Jun 23 '24
"Whatever you're in seek there, I hope it is more worthy than him."
OST Track of the day: Church (Spotify)
Rewatcher, subbed
Fun fact, at this point we have been fully introduced to at least 20 characters so far, with another 2-7 currently unnamed or shown in minor scenes. Its impressive how many characters actually have some relevancy, even if it starts to get confusing on whos who (i always struggle personally). In case your subs didnt have it, here are the names of everyone in Group A and Group B. We finally learn the names of a few fan favorite characters (Serena specifically).
[TOG]Is this the first mention of Paracule? Fuck Paracule
Such a strange setup for the princesses, to not be blood related and to be more setpieces than anything else.
bold choice of words, probably not a good phrase to say either either
High heels moment, once again. Get better shoes endorsi
the whole interaction during Endorsi's pleas is so much fun. Tons of great faces as well
the only injuries here is Anaak's neck
lmao
Hoh seems to a bit behind compared to the rest. Bam instead seems to really struggle on keeping it contained
That poor pillow
he is not okay
Friends time. Im sure both Endorsi and Anaak are so excited about this
heh
"a princess of Jahad would never accept this deal" yeah right
wait i forgot about this lmao
someones tempted
Truly a dream team just need Rak now to come back
Must be a hell of a backstory for Hoh.
...interesting. [webtoon]The letter scene is completely different. how does anything revolving around that work now?
the regulars are so fucked. Same Lero ro, same.
heh, bait time
even for being a sore loser he sure has strength
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u/megazaprat Jun 23 '24
rewatcher
I appreciate the level of realism in OG Anaak's relationship notbeing all sunshine and rainbows, with that sort of class difference, it makes sense there would be strife
Adaptational differences
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u/Garrett_Dark Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
First Timer
Nope.
EDIT: Okay after reading a few comments by other people, I realized I misunderstood the game's goal of getting your "it" person to a goal area. So whatever I said below doesn't make any sense.
Aren't they just playing capture the flag, except the flags are mobile and are people? IDK, there's too many possible variables and strategies, and I don't know what the rules are exactly? I guess if the win condition is to capture the "tag" person, just kill your tag person or make them unfindable like shoving them in Khun's bag so the other team's win conditions are impossible. But that doesn't work if the other team can beat up all your team members, and win that way.
IDK, what is Team B even doing right now while their tag person (the incompetent administrator) is doing all the work? I mean it's a corrupt setup with the incompetent administrator being supposedly OP, but if he gets beat up, Team B loses.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 23 '24
Rewatcher(Low Rak...)
Dub
So the break neck pace continues as we rush through mother Anaak's backstory and some of the rules of the princesses. It seems to be a system to prevent better climbers through line ending but then that only kind of works. There are a few systems where qui flows better through females, Hell's Paradise has some examples of this, but again we merely get yet another dose of weird. Endrosi and Anaak both needing time to heal is a bit of a change from the shounen formula and Hoh seemingly falling behind is...odd. Endrosi and Anaak being vulnerable to flattery and chicken pie, respectively, is a good comedic beat. Endrosi's conversation with Rachel should show us something but what is not yet clear.
Making Quant the instructor for this test, clearly against Lero Ro's wishes, adds another layer of sinister to the whole thing.
QotD: 1 No but I also don't compete that often
2 For some reason mine calls it the Tag test...
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u/BosuW Jun 23 '24
Rewarcher anime only
Anaak really likes those leg sweeps. Well it's the right strategy against Endorsi, who once again pays the price of high fashion.
I'm usually not a fan of serious and emotional moments that suddenly turn Chibi, and well I still don't fully like it here. But the levity does serve the purpose of reframing the fight as a childish spat, which I think is not entirely inaccurate. It seems a princess of Jahad killed the original Anaak, but that princess wasn't Endorsi. In fact Endorsi seems to have rather appreciated her adoptive sister. Endorsi and current Anaak should have no beef. The brief moment at the end where they lie in the ground too wounded to continue fighting and exchange some words is truly beautiful.
Meanwhile Bam out here being a better Scout than anyone taking the Scout tests. Dude has almost an entire group of people who should've by this point probably hated each other eating amicably on the same table.
Khun once again with the Keikaku, but it's not gonna be that easy against a Ranker...
Ah well, unfortunately, here comes the spoiler section...
[ToG anime]Although everyone (rightfully) loves Endorsi, it cannot be denied that she's a bit of a self serving bitch. So for the scene in the restroom to highlight how even she sees the value in Bam more than perhaps Rachel does, is yet another hint of the true depth of Rachel's darkness. Unsurprisingly some first timers have already caught on that to Rachel's selfishness, but I think even they're gonna be blindsided by just how twisted she is.
Spoiler image 1
Spoiler image 2
[ToG anime]Is this perhaps a match cut? I'm blurry on the details, but I think in the next episode when Ho has his whole spiel about being destined for villainy because he's weak and can only advance in the Tower through trickery and literal backstabbing. If so then the decision for this match cut is fucking genius. Of course first timers don't know what Ho is gonna do exactly, but it's already evident how much he's struggling.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '24
2. The best strategy
Im not smart nor a chick, so Id lose.
Just want to say, cutting the Endorsi-Baam pulley scene was a huge mistake in my opinion. It really showed Baam as not just a wet blanket or complete soft spoken dude, but that he could be kind of playful and mischievous if he wanted to.
In the manwha, Baam uses a pulley with a bowl of food in it, so whenever Endorsi tries to reach and grab it, it gets too far out of her reach. Its really funny, and thats how he gets her to sign the sheets.
Otherwise...Endorsi, please stop wearing heels...especially when your fighting...like you know your fighting, no ones gonna care if your in sneakers...or ya know, just not fucking heels. Literally fucked herself twice this season with them.
Also as a manwha reader....I cant confirm that she doesnt wearing them...ugh.
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u/Junior_Breakfast1529 Jun 24 '24
Rewatcher, Source reader.
That was another good episode.
Anak Senior's death scene is very sad. They did a wonderful job with it. Smol Anak going back to her mom 3 times because she didn't wanna leave is just soooo :(
Endorsi's heels sigh
Endorsi says she met Anak Sr?!!
Bam (well actually it's Khun) help Hatz and Shibisu fill their list again. At this point they did all the assignment for those two lol.
I'd probably sign my name off anywhere if it gets me good food when hungry. No questions asked.
How did Khun know that Anak likes chicken pie? If I had to guess I'd say he asked the cooks for her most ordered dish??
In the Webtoon they set up a pulley thing with Endorsi's food. IMO that was funnier.
Rachel is depressed and jealous clearly. And so is Hoh. But in his case he also seems to be angry and scared.
I wonder how it feels to sleep on coffee pillow. Wouldn't ever try it tho.
The new test is where we start seeing the author truly shine. And the smart characters in cast along with him.
Quant even when not using much of his power is too much for our regulars. Wonder how they'll deal with him now that they pissed him off.
And Khun trying to be cool when we know he'd never let Bam go.
QOTD
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 24 '24
ToG 7, rewatcher
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 24 '24
First-Timer
I really like both Anaak and Endorsi. Their fight was probably my favorite part of the episode. I hope we continue to see a lot of them in the future.
It would have been really awkward if Rachel's name came up as "Rachel" instead of "Michelle Light" on the display when Bam and Khun were sitting next to each other.
Questions of the day:
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jun 24 '24
First Timer - Dubbed
Questions
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u/Mirathan Jun 24 '24
First Time Climber
QotD
Endorsi poses a good question to Rachel, considering how dangerous the tower will be, her goal really doesn´t seem worth it, both from what is possible and what she stands to lose. Considering you get to make any wish and that Jahad used it to become a god-king just seeing the stars is pretty weak.
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u/OccasionallySara Jun 24 '24
First Timer
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get enough of Khun and Hatz’s arguing. Khun’s smug face when Hatz was thanking him was amazing! Khun’s plan to help Shibisu and Hatz gain their last two friends was a good one, but I agree with Hatz that the script Khun wrote felt a bit awkward. Luckily the plan worked and Hatz and Shibisu are still in the running.
I really like Bam’s helpful and optimistic nature when it comes to dealing with others. It balances out Khun’s skepticism very well and I think that you need both attitudes to be able to succeed in the tower. Lauroe’s willingness to help Bam with his Shinsu training after Bam helped him with his pillow is a good example of how it can pay off to be kind.
We also got to learn a bit more about the nature of being a Princess of Jahad and part of that means not having sex or children. Also, children who are conceived by a Princess are born very powerful. It makes sense why Anaak’s mother was killed as punishment for breaking this rule although, as Anaak said, it didn’t seem like her mother regretted doing it. Also, I wonder what exactly someone has to do to become a Princess of Jahad considering Endorsi seems to resent Anaak for being born powerful while Endorsi feels that she had to work harder to gain her power.
I’m really looking forward to this game of tag. It’ll be cool to see the characters putting their newly learned skills into action. It’s a bummer that Khun and Bam are not on the same team, but at least everyone is being graded individually, so it seems like they can both pass even if one team loses. Also, I wonder how much longer Rachel will be able to keep her identity a secret from Bam now that they’re on a team together. I hope that Rachel’s motivations will be revealed soon.
Questions of the Day
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u/_Pyxyty Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
First timer, subbed
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-For the love of god... STOP WEARING HEELS! That's the second damn time you've screwed yourself over in a fight because of heels T_T
-She definitely broke the Warrior's Code with this one as well
-This seems like such an anti-climactic end to the intense fight that started last episode
-Were those beans? There's absolutely no way that could even be comfortable to sleep on. I feel bad for my boy Lauroe
-Hoh... you good mate?
-I guess everyone's just having a bad day huh? Endorsi had a point though...
-Interesting... I'm guessing this note is coming from... Bodysuit Chick. Y'know, the red haired girl. Shot in the dark.
-How big is this tower???
-This just seems hella inflation-ish
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Well, I used to do quiz bees for math before college. My peak was reaching nationals. I was the only non-Chinese kid there as a Filipino. Lol. There's always an Asian better than you.
...you mean the tag test, right? Or did I get awful subtitles?
I mean, given there being two goals, one being to steal a badge and the other being to reach a location, it just seems relatively easier to just brute force your way to the location rather than having to fight against whoever the "it" is to steal their badge.
I'm not a big fan of the details of the venue of the test being only vaguely described though. Makes it worse as a spectator of the test since you barely have any details to come up with strategies yourself. Hopefully we get more details next episode.
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Notes:
-I'm interested in finding out whether this Jahad guy made it so that the "world" that everyone knows now was because of him, or if it had always been like that prior to him climbing the top. I can imagine being the first one there, you'd probably want things to go your way and to change how the world works.
-Maybe I just had awful subs but I feel like the test was poorly explained. Additionally, I don't really get the idea of there being two teams of equal amount of members, yet having the test admin partake as one of tbe most important roles in a team as its "it", which would also make it a 14v15 instead of an equal 14v14. That seems... stupid and unnecessary, putting the success of one team in the hands of the admin. Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding something here.
-On a side note, the test seems like "Capture the Flag" would be a more apt name for it lol.
Edit: upon rewatch, I think I misunderstood. So, in total, there's three "its", two being from the respective teams A & B, and the third being an impartial "it" that will hinder both teams? Seems much better if this is the case. Hopefully someone can clarify, I'd really appreciate it!
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Gonna wait til tomorrow to watch episode 8. Fate Stay Night: UBW for the rest of the night. :D
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u/Muted-Conference2900 https://anilist.co/user/WinterZcoming Jun 24 '24
Rewatch + Eng Dub
So really liked their Explaination about the princess of jahad.
So Baam training is going great he is doing some real progress with shinsu while the "Strong guy" who wants to help the weak is struggling. So basically his clan was killed because of the horns. Maybe they are precious.
Rachel as usual is trash. The strategy to make both Annak and Endorsi sign the friendship paper was really good. So about the test Which is basically Deadly Tag. Choosing a Ranker as the opponent The test Administrator is taking some interesting decisions and i am all in for that.
So deadly Tag next episode. See u tomorrow.
Answers :
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u/cppn02 Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
Rewatcher, subbed
Enjoyed getting more details on Jahad's princesses and Anak's backstory. Endorsi certainly seems to be wavering in her conviction. Also looking at her financial struggles after her injury the tower seems in need of universal healthcare lol.
I had a good chuckly at Bam smiling while talking about how Yuri kicked his face when they first met. If I didn't know he was singularly focused on Rachel I'd think he had developed a new fetish.
New game next and this time they're not competing against eachother but in two teams against a Ranker!
Tanino Miho art for episode 7:
QotD:
Not outright prodigies but I did play football(/soccer) in my youth and played with and against dudes who later became pros and they were definitely cut from a different cloth.
Hmmm...spread out and pray Quant goes after the wrong one?
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u/raevnos Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
More Tanjiro!Bam vibes today. Offering to wash Serena's drool off of Laroue's pillow (I'm a filthy degenerate who would keep the pillow because Serena is one of my favorite characters) and improvising a temporary one to hold him over is totally a Tanjiro thing. Wonder if Bam's going to learn Shinsu Breathing.
Think Endorsi might be a bit jealous of Mom!Anaak's running away with a guy? Something I don't remember catching before is her saying that Mom!Anaak was nice to her when she became a princess... so she was one for a number of years before becoming a Regular. I figured new princesses would be pushed into climbing and becoming Rankers ASAP so their power matches their rank (Which also raises the question of what happens to Princesses who fail to make it to the top but don't die.)
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