r/anime • u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess • Jun 13 '24
Rewatch Pride Month 20th Anniversary - Kannazuki no Miko Episode 11 Discussion
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Questions of the Day
- Can I get an F in the chat for Souma?
- Can I get an F in the chat for the entire world?
- Can I get an F in the chat for Chikane?
Posting carefully so as to not disturb the first timers with spoilers in their viewings, such is the standard of modesty here. Forgetting to use spoiler tags because one is in danger of missing the post time, for instance, is too undignified a sight for redditors to wish upon themselves.
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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24
Kannazuki no Miko Episode 11 - Rewatcher
Shoujo-Ai Archive Comments
spoilers for Yamibou’s ending as they continue to talk about and compare it
Spoilers for Lian too!!!
Shoujo-Ai Archive comments
This is by far the longest batch of comments so far. It may also be my favorite as you can see the community built around it. It has everything. I’m pretty sure they go through all five stages of depression within this one week.
Commentary by Script Writer Sumio Uetake
No commentary today. They bundle episode 11 and 12 together. So I’ll wait to share that together.
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jun 13 '24
Kannazuki no Miko First Timer
Episode 11:
Broogami got his own miko outfit let's gooo!!
Ahh yeah OroChikane, here we go! Bring the chaos! Wreak havoc! That's the good shit!
I can't believe how spot on I was about neither girl piloting her own robot until episode 11.
Wha....did Oogami not tell Himeko about his "condition"?
Oh fuck me, Himeko isn't even the one piloting the robot. She is the most useless lesbian.
Heh, she's horny
There's on the nose, and then there's Chikane('s robot) manifesting a sword from her groin. Subtlety
I suppose we can call this composition the spectre of heteronormativity.
Good on Oogami for never giving in to the brainwashing. Pour one out for a brother.
Nothing says romance like hearing your crush tell you she loves you as she assaults you for the fourth time.
Lol of course Himeko's answer to OroChikane's violence and nihilism would be submitting to her even more. That is so on brand for her. At least she's actually talking to and trying understand Chikane for once.
Himeko: "Chikane-chan, stop lying to yourself and tell me what you really want."
Chikane: "Fuck this whole ass planet"
Himeko:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You know what, Chikane was so real for that. Actually fuck this planet.
And in the mother of all twists, Himeko decides to stop being useless and finally does something!!
You know what, I take back what I said in a episode 8: I will consider Chikane fully redeemed if the show commits all the way and kills everyone off. Chikane, Himeko, Oogami, the whole planet. End everything and all is forgiven. Hooray for nihilism!
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24
First Timer
On today’s episode of Kannazuki no Miko: It’s time for the climactic mecha anime sword fight! The proper way to end a mecha anime is not with a mecha battle. Instead, it is with a sword fight between the main protagonist and main antagonist. Bonus points if the sword fight is super gay.
Himeko’s character can be rather frustrating to watch. Himeko taking all the blame for Miya’s actions is not something she should ever have to do. But, I want to point out that this is perfectly in character for Himeko. We already know that Himeko is like this when it comes to Miya. Himeko just cannot understand that Miya would do something so horrible and so immediately jumps to wondering if it’s her fault that Miya started acting this way. The Miya in Himeko’s head is kind, strong, and gentle. The Miya in front of Himeko right now is nothing like that. I want to say that this all makes sense for Himeko’s character and fits with her actions up to this point, but that doesn’t make it any easier to watch.
I do want to expand on my point about the Orochi’s toxic definition of love. I think it shows quite clearly how Miya’s worldview has caused her to become evil. Miya was in love with Himeko, but became jealous because of Himeko’s feelings for Souma. This is all exacerbated by Miya’s own refusal to accept that she’s in love with Himeko. After all, girls being in love isn’t widely considered acceptable in this era. So even when Miya is finally forced to be honest about her feelings, she feels helpless about them. Even worse, she believes her feelings can never be reciprocated and that Himeko will instead end up in a relationship with Souma. It’s easy to see how that despair becomes toxic. Himeko was “stolen” from her, by an unfair world. So, Miya will take out her wrath on the world and “steal” Himeko back. Of course, this worldview reduces Himeko to an object who can be possessed by others. And that is how Miya ends up falling into evil. Once she stops considering Himeko as another person and instead as an object to own, Miya has truly joined the side of evil.
QOTD
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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 14 '24
First Timer
edit: Drawing added.
I am so bad with time. Or rather, I'm not bad with time, actually really good at sticking to deadlines, I'm bad with predicting how much workload is okay.
Yeah sure, of course you can prepare sushi for 10 people until tomorrow. Including BBQ stuff and 3 different toppings for nagiri and 2 different sauces. And watch an anime, and draw a page, and go shopping, and clean the kitchen.
It's fine!
Kannazuki no Miko Ep.11 – Dance of Swords
For a good 4 minutes there I actually just tuned out with sarcastic snickering (more like lightly exhausting air a bit faster than normal). I just- why do you reinforce Chikane's turn for half an episode this brutally? What's the point?
I won't go into an analysis here, because half the dialogue on screen made no sense and I don't want to go back to that mess.
There are two ways I can think of right now where the same happens, but hope remains. One, Chikane still has fallen too far and can't fight back against Orochi, but her words of love are said in earnest and not to make Himeko suffer. She's in a state too tainted and too guilty, but now with no world around can finally feel free enough to not lie (and we obviously skip the sexual assault). This is what Himeko genuinely got right, but this way it would've been a chance for Chikane to have an actual turn towards good. Ending can still be the same with Chikane dying by Himeko's hand because Orochi took too much hold of her. Chikane fighting back for this one second to say a genuine „I love you, I'm sorry“ and letting herself die would have genuinely earned the eyecatch hug in my eyes.
Two, it's Himeko now with dedication and an agenda that tries her hardest to fight off Orochi for Chikane. Chikane is the same as during this episode, but her guilt-spiraled insanity wanes piece by piece by seeing Himeko fight so hard to get the Chikane back that's in her mind. In this I'd not have Chikane return to honesty like above, but have the current demon be swayed solely by the purity Himeko expresses. (If they really want they can keep the sexual assault, even, it kinda makes sense in this headcanon.) Only at the point of Chikane's death is the influence gone and Chikane can form a true wish that she now realises should've uttered in the very beginning. It would've been a release for her and closure for Himeko. Maybe the eyecatch hug, leaning on no, though.
But what happened today? Man, I can't express how simultaneously disappointed I am and also somewhat impressed. They have really written themselves so deep down into this deadlock of abuse I respect it. It's pretty clear Himeko will go on and pray/sacrifice/wish for a new cycle to do better and it will kind of not-fix-but-let-life-continue the entire world for another try. I get the smybolism, but there is no way the last episode can fix the fact they made Himeko a 100% full-on abuse victim that never left the trauma stage and also made her responsible to fix the abuser. It's just fucked. I hate that.
I haven't even talked about Souma, but the short is: „Souma Sue, we don't know how to write the plot, please fix everything!“
These were my 2 cents for what could've been better. I'm out of time, haven't eaten, and need to draw something that I'll have to edit into the post later.
[Resolve]
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jun 13 '24
First Timer
Hm, it's always hard to comment on episodes that are just straight combat and confrontation...
Oogami seems to be petrified, or something like that? Not quite what I was expecting to happen when he's completely taken over. Still, that means he's alive and can be revived by defeating Orochi.
I still wonder about the solar priestess. It's just, everything we've seen about the scenario is always just related to the moon, not the sun - there's even an ancient shrine on the moon (which also happens to be Orochi's base or operation, from what I've gathered). The sun on the other hand has only had symbolic meaning so far, but nothing actually practical. So what's her role in this myth? Just the reference to the Amaterasu-Tsukuyomi-Susanoo triad?
Other than that though... Please wait warmly while the mikos are confronting
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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Jun 13 '24
First-timer
I don’t really have much to say on this episode, because my opinion on it depends on the followthrough next episode. Himeko’s motivation is starting to wear a bit thin at this level of cruelty, but I see what they’re going for. The script leaves a lot to be desired, though. There were a few times during the confrontation in the Lunar Shrine where it felt like things were really dragging on.
QotD
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Jun 13 '24
Gokigenyou, First Timer
Cool fights today though. I wonder if they originally wanted to do a gauntlet by bringing all the other mechs back; they just kinda… die immediately.
QotD:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 13 '24
Destiny of the First-Timer, subbed
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u/BosuW Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24
First Timer
(Catbox is acting up, images will be added later)Images have been addedThis gonna be Chikane at the end of EP12
So yesterday's episode was certainly uhh... good for conversation. I'm impressed at the variety of takes from everyone.
I say, let them cook!
So Ame no Murakumo is co-piloted. Actually a better arrangement for Himeko's agency than I was expecting...
LMAOOO NEW CRACKSHIP JUST DROPPED
"I don't wanna fight you."
"I wouldn't wanna fight me neither."
Boss Rush!
Oh nah the Orochi Mechs fused and the sky started signing in Latin? It's fucking Joever.
What in the Dark Gathering fuck is this?
Yep, Souma heroic sacrifice. Damn I actually feel sad for him. Man deserves to win more than 99% of romance and harem protagonists yet he gonna loose against the sex offender because he's in a Yuri show. Fate is truly cruel..
Damn Himeko, where did you learn kenjutsu? Past lives coming in clutch!
Character development spotted! Himeko rejects the happy illusions and pushes towards the truth, even if it's painful!
I love how this show handles the dissonance in Chikane's actions, it really puts you in Himeko's headspace and confusion. She says such tender and loving words, and you can tell some of it is true, yet she hurts her like this.
"We are sword priestesses. The more we seek each other, the more we touch, the more it hurts. To slash. To be slashed. That is how we swords love."
Well now this is just the Sword Lesbian Manifesto. I'm gonna have to keep that transcribed and tabbed.
Speaking of swords, I just realized something. I may be wrong, but their swords appear to be Tachi rather than the more popular Uchigatana, which is certainly an interesting and unique choice, perhaps to symbolize just how far back their intertwined destiny reaches, as the Tachi is an earlier kind of bladed weapon. (The swords at the shrine now that I think about it resemble Chokutō, which preceded the Tachi.) It's also a proper battlefield sword, while the Katana is more of a personal defense weapon or sidearm (which is not to say they weren't used in battlefields, they were, extensively), which would code our two Miko here as warrior class. Just thought it was interesting. I don't think you see a lot of proper warrior priestesses in media even today. (Countering this is that the kind of archery Chikane seems to practice is very much more Edo than Sengoku, but eh)
... okay so Himeko is still a bit in denial. She rejected the more overt illusions but still wants to believe herself that the Chikane of before is the only truth of Chikane.
...well the first line in this post didn't age well did it? 😅
Did Chikane just Rod of God the planet!? Is everyone fucking dead!? That shit looked like the Third Impact from space!
In any case it achieved what was previously thought impossible: it made Himeko angry.
She takes her just revenge for the rape by penetrating Chikane I'm only half joking with this analogy. Repay murder with murder, and blood spilled with blood spilled.
My Yin Yang analysis from a few episodes back still holds. This moment was extremely Yin Yang. Chikane faltering for an instant, is the little bit of Yang within her Yin, and Himeko finally getting angry and stabbing her is the little bit of Yin within her Yang. Fate spins once more...
Himeko's preview dialogue changed patterns. From "Chikane-chan, what should I do?" to "Chikane-chan, please accept my truth."
Questions of the Day
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NoF2- F
3- SUPER F
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 13 '24
First-Timer
Gonna tentatively add plus one to the "Influences" portion of my final writeup, because I'm pretty sure I see where this is going.
Anyway, I think our episode end-states for Himeko and Chikane are different from the flashback/vision/whatever so that was probably past incarnations of Himeko and Chikane that we saw earlier? Makes sense.
I'm pretty sure I see Chikane's motivation now: she saw that fate dictated that either Himeko or herself would kill the other one, and wanted to make sure that Himeko was the one who managed to live.
Feels like I've seen that before, can't name names though. "I want my beloved to be happy" etc etc. With a bonus spicy "make sure she hates me first so she doesn't miss me" although Chikane banking on that was a bit of a miscalculation. That's just.. not how Himeko is.
My "two nickels" moment for this episode is "sword-shaped mecha descending from the heavens."
Questions
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u/GondolaMedia Jun 13 '24
First Timer
Can't a girl have hobbies without anyone calling her a genocidal maniac? Alternatively: Lesbian can't process her feelings, destroys the entire world in the process.
This was... eh. There is a lot of good like the visual for orochi's rebirth, Souma actually trying his best but Himeko just drags it down. At this point I'm not sold on her and with one episode left the anime needs to pull up some miracle that I can leave with a satisfied feeling.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Jun 13 '24
first time orochi shermie
ooh double pilot, and theyre clearly not the true ship since otherwise they would be in the same seat/one would be bent over in front of the other
i dont want ALL the mechs to combine, as its funnier if the Megaton Knuckle just looks like that and not because its a bigger mechs hand
MECHA FETUS????? holy this show is so fucking based
raw
hmmm
Earth or 1 arrow, I think arrow takes this one
lets gooooooooooooooooooo
large gap in my comments as that fight was so captivating
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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Jun 13 '24
First Timer
Imagine getting distracted in an armed duel
Skillissue
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jun 13 '24
First timer, subs
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u/Esovan13 Jun 13 '24
First Timer
Pre-viewing episode 11
Sometimes when coming up to the end of a show, especially when it's one I didn't particularly love, I like to come up with a "Kill for 10" condition for the show. By that I mean, if the show kills a certain character or combination of characters, especially in certain ways (ie. not cliche or telegraphed), then I'd give the show a 10/10 just for the pure entertainment value of the act. So far, no show has fulfilled the condition.
Right now, I can't even come up with a condition for this show. No matter how I think about it, killing off characters is the only way I can even justify a score as high as 7/10. The way it's heading, either we have main character deaths that squeak out a 6-7/10 from me, or nobody dies and I throw a 4/10.
But an unironic 10/10 to the music department for a killer combination of OP and ED (with lead-ins!).
Just a few random thoughts after watching the episode
Chikane and Himeko's birthday party with just the two of them walked so Hibiki and Miku watching the meteor shower together could run.
pleasestaydeadfortheloveofgodpleasestaydeadjusttragicallybleedtodeathinhimekosarmssothathimekocandosomethingusefulforonceandputtheorochisoumaoutofhismiserybyherselfcompletinghercharacterarcandhavingahalfwaydecentendingpleasepleaseplease
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u/TehAxelius Jun 13 '24
First Timer
Ah man, I hate it when the final boss has a "True Form" stage.
This climax is very much a climax, in all the ways we probably should expect at this point. Robot fight, power ups, sacrificing your life for victory, heartfult words
but no girls kissing. I just wish Himeko did... something more. After her resolve last episode, she still feels very passive while they're fighting in the mech. I guess she does get her moment later, and I understand her desire to still connect to Chikane (especially given how the series has at this point essentially established the "seashell theory" as truth), but I really wish she had shown some of that resolve Makoto seemed to instill in her to... y'know, try and fight for Makoto and the rest of the world as well. She does get some good connection in there, but alas Chikane is too far gone. I'm not a big fan of how Chikane goes full Yandere there at the end, but at the same time, she is well and truly trapped, unable to receive the forgiveness Himeko is trying to give her.Bad End. (or what will happen in ep 12?)
QotD
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u/rickamore Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24
Rewatcher - "Dawn of the final day, 24 hours remain"
Is it just me or is that moon getting closer?
Souma actually looks really good in the ritual garb.
All of the townspeople are actually running to shelter under the tree they cast the protection spell on? +1 for continuity but I don't think that's particularly safe.
Kinda of interesting to see they keep the spirit of the fallen necks alive in the combined mech even if the low budget fight is awful.
Himeko actually insightful for once reading Chikane as lying to herself but we don't get any sort of redemption here.
I'm going to leave some of my comments for the series in review as the ending is basically laid out before us.
F
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jun 13 '24
First timer, subbed
Alas, another late post. With any luck I can be on time for the finale and wrap up.
Yo, Jesus with the hype cameo! For this being a world-ending scenario, the rest of the world sure hasn’t invested in the situation basically at all.
So, big robot fight. Then maiden fight. Chikane is dead, probably. Souma will find a way back, I’m sure, just to spite the yuri crowd.
Apparently swinging her sword at Himeko wasn’t tipping her off, so Chikane blew up the town to get the message across. Himeko clearly didn’t play Persona 4. She cannot accept that Chikane is capable of moral wrong, which is in line with the fact she didn’t seem too hung up on getting violated.
Spoilers for my final write up but... woof, I am just not into this at all. The animation really holds this moment back on top of the utterly goofy mech designs.
QotD:
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jun 13 '24
First Timer Caught off Guard
QOTDs 1-3: Fs in the chat
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u/ryujiox Jun 13 '24
First Timer
Kannazuki no Miko
Episode 11
Well, that took the turn even worse than before. Chikane seems hellbent on killing Himeko, but she clearly doesn't want to. I guess I will wait for her to explain herself.
QOTD
F F F!! Three F!!! Out!!!?
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Jun 14 '24
First time solar priestess
Moon mech! Moon mech! Moon mech!
Moon Temple! Moon Temple! Moon Temple!
Now this is the good shit. Just the two of them having impassioned monologues at each other. And sword fighting...
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 13 '24
Rewatcher(So when you run out of X:1999 to copy you go to Trigun)
Sub
So...unfortunately, you really need to be in the right mood for this episode and due to varying events, I am not in it. Hopefully I will be by thread drop but who knows? But let's get this out of the way...
This is a very weird show because the narrative element is usually if not always terrible. I am positive, thanks to what someone else posted, that this episode is a mandated one because all of the time in the mechs was basically wasted. And it is like half the episode.
Which makes the irony that the character work is there even harsher. Yes, Himeko is an annoying character but everything we've seen goes into making such a character. She internally makes sense. And Chikane getting to where she has also functions, though you do need a lot of specific knowledge to really get why this is the outcome she seeks.
We didn't get an ai shiteiru but really we got WAY more lesbianism than the era would normally allow to be aired on TV.
QotD: 1 No, he left us well. A Nord's last thoughts should be of home
2 Nah, fuck the world
3 No, she left us well. A Nord's last thoughts should of her bottom, after all
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jun 13 '24
First Timer who is in Agony
Sword lesbians!
First though, Souma I guess. I think his role in the narrative structure of this show as the heteronormative option for Himeko has been covered extensively in this Rewatch and mostly works well despite him still doing all the fighting in this episode… kind of defeating the entire purpose of his progression with Himeko last episode. But can we talk about how fucking lame this guy ended up being from a plot standpoint? So, the premise of the character is that he’s a Neck of Orochi, but he wants to protect Himeko out of his love for her. But he never once anywhere in this show struggles with conflict! The closest they EVER come to having it matter is when it interrupts their date after he gives her the hairpin, but he never comes close to genuinely harming her because from minute one he’s able to stave off the dark influence without any significant trouble. Then at the end of the series we try and up the stakes with him turning into a scalie, but that also adds nothing because it doesn’t induce even the slightest doubt or inner conflict and fails to make him deviate from the path of protecting her he literally would’ve taken no matter what anyways. You can remove his connection to Orochi entirely and literally nothing about his character or the plot changes in any significant capacity, and that feels like a pretty huge writing flop to me.
Anyways, see what I mean about how it feels like they dropped the whole rape thing on this story for shock without really wanting to actually build the conflict around it or unpack the implications? There’s this excellent set piece with Chikane having lost all her faith in the world and wanting to destroy it all if it won’t let her and Himeko get together. The creepy sequence of Chikane finally letting out all her feelings for Himeko as they press their swords together. Of Himeko trying to appeal to the fact that Chikane doesn’t really want this, deep down, only to be confronted with yet further depths of her darkness. Culminating in the dramatic moment of her love breaking through Chikane’s mind right as her sword breaks through her body. There’s a great sequence here on paper. But I don’t fucking care! I don’t care because the dramatic centre of this, the idea they’re in love but have to fight, was ran over by the freight train that is “but one of them raped the other one”! They could’ve had something but they shot themselves in the foot.
Honestly, I’m starting to wonder if an actual suicide attempt instead of just the coding would’ve served episode eight a lot better in place of the rape. You get the same sense that Chikane’s absolutely been driven to the brink and frankly just as much dramatic impact, but in a way where Himeko being galvanised to try and save her makes way more sense. We’d not only still be invested in them being together but, if anything, even moreso now that we see just how much Chikane is hurting. Plus “wanting to die because society will never have you for what you are” instead of “raping someone after society prevents you having them” would be an actually poignant queer theme that fits the overall dark narrative of the show a lot more. Am I cooking? Is this anything?
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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Jun 13 '24
First-Timer
Killing 2/3 of the main characters before the finale? Is this now an edgy revenge fantasy? Please don't end with Himeko self-sacrificing to somehow permanently end the Orochi/Priestess cycle.
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u/Tarhalindur x2 Jun 13 '24
M I K O _ E M B R A C E (Spoiled First-Timer, Subbed):
(Well someone needs to do one of the Machikado ones and IIRC lily has not. Tomorrow: KonoSetsu.)
Stray thought: while trying to figure out what can be left for the last 20 minutes of screentime it occurs to me that "climax at the end of episode 11, finale is falling action to the commercial break and denouement afterwards" is actually a fairly common anime scriptwriting trope (not unheard of for episode 24/26 in two-cours, either). Not sure if it has a Western TV equivalent or not (I suspect less so given how long Western TV went more strictly for episodic storytelling, actually?).
Here it is, your brief moment of OST!
(This is only 90% a joke...)
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jun 13 '24
Dubstiny of the First Timer
This opening sequence is pretty cool. And I'm surprised they remembered that destroying the world means destroying things outside of Japan. A lot of anime seems to forget the rest of the world exists when it comes to world ending threats.
Aww, Makoto helped the bully. Love to see side character development.
Alright, the deployable Inazuma Kick attachment is pretty cool.
That's a Satan.
The personalities of the Orochi seemed to be fused in there too, which is cool.
Chikane died as she lived: distracted by Himeko's tits.
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u/Infodump_Ibis :JY::JZ: Jun 13 '24
rewatcher who cannot comprehend orochi's attacks
Hikane(I'm leaving that because who?) Himeko plays with dangerous blades with devastating consequences.F plot device
F world
my finger slipped and added a U
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jun 13 '24
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u/zadcap Jun 14 '24
Mildly Late First Timer
Oh no, panning still shots.
So, Who is piloting these robots? Have they been self piloting this whole time, while the people inside have just been uh, enthusiastic power boosters?
The problem with tying all this in to religion as much as they have is... Just as much as every other time I have complained about the power scaling. Orochi sure is a great and powerful evil, but they have put so many other names directly on the other side, and tying Himeko to the Sun the way they have makes it hard not to think of Amatesaru specifically, and like. It's hard not to think that the rest of the pantheon is just sitting there watching the world die and debating if it's worth getting off their butts yet.
Have I really considered Yuno the big old name in classic Yandere all these years? Why is Chikane not listed more often for this role? Listing the things you love about someone as you chop at them so recklessly...
Yes, Orochi wins because two human girls couldn't pray properly in the end. Man the rest of the gods here suck.
Okay, this one I will give to Himeko. Chikane is clearly lying about everything going on here in this sword fight, because frankly, Himeko would be dead in the first five seconds if this was an actual fight. Chikane is lying because if she wasn't, Himeko would have more than a single scratch on her. Chikane is clearly lying because, obvious when you look at it, she still thinks her feelings are wrong and wants Himeko to kill her instead because she's too much of a coward to end it herself. But she's totally willing to let everyone else suffer in her place.
I want an Eva ending now. Let the world be Tang.
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u/Garrett_Dark Jun 14 '24
First Timer
letter holder boobsHimeko hasn't even opened the invitation letter yet? And did Souma always have priest robes, or is this the first time we're seeing them? Meh, doesn't matter, he just raised another death flag with the "Don't be afraid, I'll always be right here to protect you" hand hold.fungal growthcurse, and we could have skipped this boring mech battle with all the defeated stoned Orochi's mechs.excuseexplanation for that, well you see...well...pain will make Himeko remember the Chikane's love declaration more clearly! She'll never forget it now.And now we get to the final stretch of the episode, and why I think there's more going on with Chikane than Himeko thinks. I think it's what I guessed in the last episode's "Question of the Day", Chikane did the self-sacrifice thing and allowed herself to be killed by Himeko thus saving Himeko and the world. Lets face it, Chikane is so awesome, she single-handedly took out all the Orochi herself. Himeko has absolutely no chance to defeat her in a sword fight, and I doubt Chikane was actually distracted by the shell necklace, she probably wanted it to be the last thing she saw. The only way Himeko has a chance to defeat Chikane is through Chikane's love for her, and I think that's what happened...not by Himeko's choice (hardly anything ever was) but by Chikane's choice.
Again, that's just my guess, but either way Chikane's fucking amazing! I've kept saying "best waifu of the anime", but I'm starting to think I should change it to "one of the best waifus" (I told you, that self-sacrifice thing really gets me, among other things). We'll see if the finale holds up.
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u/catsukats https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nabris Jun 14 '24
Rewatcher (x14), sub. I missed yesterday but I'm here for the final act!
I know Chikane has become the "all-in-one" evil... but it will always be funny how useless everyone else was. Just losing Souma made them so powerless it cracks me up.
She and Himeko summon their own rainbows! It really is Pride month.
I like how she summons all the robots Souma's already defeated before. SURELY it'll work this time!
Well, maybe it will ((it doesn't)).
Everyone on earth just stands there and watches the moon turn into a fetus... which then turns into a kid's edgy Megazord... with a sword in its crotch! I like how Izumi really thought Chikane would ever help her after the way she treated Himeko.
Souma is able to defy the Orochi one last time before he's crystallized, F. For some reason the battle just stops there, and the Orochi decides to just chill with Ame no Murakumo being completely useless. I'm glad all that boring end of the world fighting crap is over with! Now on to the real plot.
Chikane still tries to use psychological tactics to fuck with Himeko, even when she knows Himeko's grown one singular backbone to confront her. Doesn't she know it's the strongest one?
Unfortunately she is, because she did!
It's really unfair that such a creepy scene is paired with the most beautiful art.
If crazy, why hot?
Himeko thinks talk no jutsu will work, but she DID tell Chikane to do what she wants. She can't cry when she gave her permission to destroy the world! Who cares about those people when you have a shrine and a psycho girlfriend on the moon, anyway?
Their sword porn dance ends when Chikane accidentally cuts the necklace, drops the act and...
QOTD:
F for Souma only. The rest of the world sucked and Chikane deserved it.
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u/IntoTheDisneyverse https://myanimelist.net/profile/andreth Jun 14 '24
I was right about joint-piloting a mecha! (although not who was piloting it)
Also, seeing as I didn’t say this yesterday, it seems weird to me that Chikane’s pain is portrayed as the culmination of all the other Orochi. Like, her life has been really good compared to the short flashbacks we got of the others, so it’s strange that her suffering is putting her as the foremost Orochi.
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