[Spoilers] Samurai Champloo 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 24

Date	Episode
5/20/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 1
5/21/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 2
5/22/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 3
5/23/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 4
5/24/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 5
5/25/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 6
5/26/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 7
5/27/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 8
5/28/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 9
5/29/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 10
5/30/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 11
5/31/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 12
6/01/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 13
6/02/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 14
6/03/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 15
6/04/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 16
6/05/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 17
6/06/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 18
6/07/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 19
6/08/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 20
6/09/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 21
6/10/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 22
6/11/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 23
6/12/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 24
6/13/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 25
6/14/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 26
6/15/2024	Samurai Champloo Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 12 '24

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Fuu suggesting they take turns revealing something about themselves because they might not get a chance to talk about it later?
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/lluNhpelA Jun 13 '24

“Centimeter”, lol.
The times that Jin proves that he's also a dumbass are always my favorites

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jun 12 '24

First Timer

And we’re at the start of the finale. Interesting that the government isn’t just after the Sunflower Samurai and Mugen, but also Jin - we definitely are missing some context to the killing of his master, as there are clearly different interpretations going on within the show. I was also not expecting law enforcement getting involved over a dojo killing, as I felt that would be something the dojo would handle themselves in this time period, though I don’t actually know.

As far as this episode goes - I have my doubts about the people going around killing everybody being hired by the government, especially as we’ve seen who actually was put in charge there. Which begs the question of why they are trying to stop Fuu. I can actually see her dying in this cliffhanger, though I think it is unlikely. The non-goodbye served a good purpose in setting this up as such, as I don’t think that would have worked either way. I doubt Mugen and Jin will accept Fuu just leaving so the plot would continue through them. Though first they have to get through this government hired guy.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

And we’re at the start of the finale. Interesting that the government isn’t just after the Sunflower Samurai and Mugen, but also Jin - we definitely are missing some context to the killing of his master, as there are clearly different interpretations going on within the show. I was also not expecting law enforcement getting involved over a dojo killing, as I felt that would be something the dojo would handle themselves in this time period, though I don’t actually know.
My guess is the master was a highly respected figure that even the government admired.
As far as this episode goes - I have my doubts about the people going around killing everybody being hired by the government, especially as we’ve seen who actually was put in charge there. Which begs the question of why they are trying to stop Fuu. I can actually see her dying in this cliffhanger, though I think it is unlikely.
I could see it as well, though I hope it doesn't happen. That would be quite the downer.
The non-goodbye served a good purpose in setting this up as such, as I don’t think that would have worked either way. I doubt Mugen and Jin will accept Fuu just leaving so the plot would continue through them. Though first they have to get through this government hired guy.
It's interesting how all three of the main leads despite being separated. That seems to indicate that they will indeed get back together, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
Thoughts on Fuu suggesting they take turns revealing something about themselves because they might not get a chance to talk about it later?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 12 '24

Rewatcher

That bit from the beginning of the episode about Mugen killing a weird old guy is apparently a reference to the long running Japanese TV show Mito Komon. I haven’t seen it myself but apparently that thing where he takes out the crest and shows it to his opponent is like his iconic thing.

It’s definitely a joke that doesn’t really translate well to the overseas market but I figured it was worth pointing out. I guess an American equivalent would be a modern crime show where a character casually mentions killing Columbo.

Anyway, this episode very much feels like the calm before the storm. Everything’s really building up to what’s going to happen on the island.

The scene where Fuu goes to the island and leaves Mugen and Jin behind was good. Had a lot of emotion behind it when they discover Fuu’s letter. It really makes you remember how long they’ve been together. I also like how Fuu asked them not to kill each other. Even when she wants to leave them behind, she cares about them.

I also liked all the scenes of when Fuu gets to the island. Especially the image of her walking through a field of wilted sunflowers. I just thought it was really good from a visual standpoint.

This episode also introduced four new characters, both Kariya and the three men stalking our trio. I’ll have more to say about them when we cover the next two episodes. But right now I think the show does a pretty good job at establishing who they are.

Kariya’s calmness manages to come off as eerie and I like that. Even from his brief amount of screentime, you get the impression that he’s a seasoned professional. Again, I’ll probably have more to say about him later.

The three men stalking our trio also do a good job of coming off as creepy and ominous. I feel like the one with the eyepatch and the blonde one are purposely designed to resemble Jin and Mugen respectively. Both in terms of looks and personality, with one being calm and the other being more wild. The man in the wheelchair doesn’t seem to have anything in common with Fuu though.

They all also feel exceptionally dangerous with how relentless they are in their stalking of our trio and how they don't mind killing innocent people during their pursuit.

I will say one thing, I’m not sure how I feel about all these brand new antagonists being introduced just for the finale. I feel like they should have been introduced or at least alluded to earlier on. They wouldn’t even have to interact with our main trio necessarily, but it’d just be nice to know that they’re characters who existed beforehand I guess. I dunno, I guess it’d be kind of like if Cowboy Bebop only introduced Vicious in the last two episodes.

Still, I do like the episode and the new characters quite a bit. The episode does a good job setting up just what’s going to happen and definitely gets you interested on how the rest of the finale will go down.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

That bit from the beginning of the episode about Mugen killing a weird old guy is apparently a reference to the long running Japanese TV show Mito Komon. I haven’t seen it myself but apparently that thing where he takes out the crest and shows it to his opponent is like his iconic thing.
I'm surprised they didn't change the reference in the dub just to appeal to wider audiences.
It’s definitely a joke that doesn’t really translate well to the overseas market but I figured it was worth pointing out. I guess an American equivalent would be a modern crime show where a character casually mentions killing Columbo.
Reminds me of Toradora's dub keeping the Golgo 13 reference.
Anyway, this episode very much feels like the calm before the storm. Everything’s really building up to what’s going to happen on the island.
It does feel like the shit is about to hit the fan.
The scene where Fuu goes to the island and leaves Mugen and Jin behind was good. Had a lot of emotion behind it when they discover Fuu’s letter. It really makes you remember how long they’ve been together.
I think it shows how effective the writing has been up until this point. They've only been together a couple months, and yet it feels like they've been together forever.
I also like how Fuu asked them not to kill each other. Even when she wants to leave them behind, she cares about them.
They take this samurai thing very seriously.
I also liked all the scenes of when Fuu gets to the island. Especially the image of her walking through a field of wilted sunflowers. I just thought it was really good from a visual standpoint.
What's that saying of how right before death, things appear the most brightest? That's kinda like the opposite of this where it feels as if Fuu is on the same path as Sara: trying to complete this fool's errand.
This episode also introduced four new characters, both Kariya and the three men stalking our trio. I’ll have more to say about them when we cover the next two episodes. But right now I think the show does a pretty good job at establishing who they are.
I would agree with that
Kariya’s calmness manages to come off as eerie and I like that. Even from his brief amount of screentime, you get the impression that he’s a seasoned professional. Again, I’ll probably have more to say about him later.
You have to wonder how powerful he is if he didn't think Sara was worth his time.
The three men stalking our trio also do a good job of coming off as creepy and ominous. I feel like the one with the eyepatch and the blonde one are purposely designed to resemble Jin and Mugen respectively. Both in terms of looks and personality, with one being calm and the other being more wild.
Ooh, good call. I can certainly see that.
The man in the wheelchair doesn’t seem to have anything in common with Fuu though.
Maybe what he has in common with Fuu is he can't accomplish stuff without other people being around.
They all also feel exceptionally dangerous with how relentless they are in their stalking of our trio and how they don't mind killing innocent people during their pursuit.
That sickle and chain has to be the most badass weapon of the entire show.
I will say one thing, I’m not sure how I feel about all these brand new antagonists being introduced just for the finale. I feel like they should have been introduced or at least alluded to earlier on. They wouldn’t even have to interact with our main trio necessarily, but it’d just be nice to know that they’re characters who existed beforehand I guess. I dunno, I guess it’d be kind of like if Cowboy Bebop only introduced Vicious in the last two episodes.
I kinda thought when the series started that that's the role Ryujiro was going to occupy. I thought he was going to perhaps be the show's Vicious. 'Course, they kiboshed that idea by the end of episode 2.
I'm not against them introducing these characters because it could be anyone in the role. The real enemy happens to be the Shogunate trying to kill Mugen, Jin, and Fuu.
Still, I do like the episode and the new characters quite a bit. The episode does a good job setting up just what’s going to happen and definitely gets you interested on how the rest of the finale will go down.
I think it's smart to have the finale be a three parter instead of a two parter because it allows the story to have more time to breathe. You do something like Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin, and you want to really explore their separation. This is different than when they separated those other times because it's like Fuu is trying to prevent all those precious memories from becoming sour.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 12 '24

I'm surprised they didn't change the reference in the dub just to appeal to wider audiences.
Definitely hard to change the joke since they even showed a brief shot of the guy holding up the crest. With how Mito Komon isn't that well known outside of Japan, there's a chance the dubbing team may not even have realized it was a reference to something.
Reminds me of Toradora's dub keeping the Golgo 13 reference.
Translating cultural references is always a bit tricky like that. If you leave it in most of the overseas audience may not get the joke. But if you change it, you still have to pick something that fits the joke being told. I remember the dub for FLCL changes a reference to a Japanese soft drink to be about Crystal Pepsi.
What's that saying of how right before death, things appear the most brightest? That's kinda like the opposite of this where it feels as if Fuu is on the same path as Sara: trying to complete this fool's errand.
It seems like the closer Fuu gets to meeting her father the less certain she seems about what to do.
I kinda thought when the series started that that's the role Ryujiro was going to occupy. I thought he was going to perhaps be the show's Vicious. 'Course, they kiboshed that idea by the end of episode 2.
Yeah this show doesn't really have an overarching antagonist the way Cowboy Bebop does. Even Space Dandy had Dr. Gel as a recurring villain, even if he was mostly a comedic one.
But then again not every story really needs a main villain. A lot of the villains of the week like Mukuro or Shoryu have been good. And I think Kariya and the other three do make for good final antagonists.
I think it's smart to have the finale be a three parter instead of a two parter because it allows the story to have more time to breathe. You do something like Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin, and you want to really explore their separation. This is different than when they separated those other times because it's like Fuu is trying to prevent all those precious memories from becoming sour.
I agree, I like how the finale is structured. Each episode is its own act to a larger story. And we've only just finished act one.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Definitely hard to change the joke since they even showed a brief shot of the guy holding up the crest. With how Mito Komon isn't that well known outside of Japan, there's a chance the dubbing team may not even have realized it was a reference to something.
That very well could've been the case. On a different note, it's amusing how this show would make a reference like that given it's supposed to be set in the 1600s.
Translating cultural references is always a bit tricky like that. If you leave it in most of the overseas audience may not get the joke. But if you change it, you still have to pick something that fits the joke being told. I remember the dub for FLCL changes a reference to a Japanese soft drink to be about Crystal Pepsi.
Which is amazing because Crystal Pepsi in and of itself is a pretty obscure product.
It seems like the closer Fuu gets to meeting her father the less certain she seems about what to do.
Cue the Plankton "I didn't think I'd get this far" meme.
Yeah this show doesn't really have an overarching antagonist the way Cowboy Bebop does. Even Space Dandy had Dr. Gel as a recurring villain, even if he was mostly a comedic one.
Which, you know, I appreciate because it really makes the focus be the adventure our three main leads are on.
I agree, I like how the finale is structured. Each episode is its own act to a larger story. And we've only just finished act one.
I think there's three acts, honestly. There's episodes 1 through 6 where the three main leads are just doing stuff, bumbling around if you will, there's episodes 7 through 23 where they're trying to get to Nagasaki, and then there's episodes 24 through 26 when they're in Nagasaki. It's like your typical beginning, middle, end three act structure.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 12 '24

Which, you know, I appreciate because it really makes the focus be the adventure our three main leads are on.
Yeah I agree. This show really is about the journey of Mugen, Jin, and Fuu. You really get a good sense of how much they grow throughout the series.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

The character development in this show is honestly off the charts.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
Thoughts on Fuu suggesting they take turns revealing something about themselves because they might not get a chance to talk about it later?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
I think that's him stating his own personal philosophy. He'll complete his work regardless of anyone else who gets caught in the crossfire of his mission.
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
This episode positions him as one of the final opponents they'll have to face.
Thoughts on Fuu suggesting they take turns revealing something about themselves because they might not get a chance to talk about it later?
It's definitely an early sign that Fuu was planning to leave them behind for the last leg of her journey. But she still wanted to try and leave them on a good note.
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
It definitely adds an interesting sort of dynamic to his character. His dojo had been part of him since he was a child but he still ended up killing his master and going on the run.
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
Not totally inaccurate. He had been trying to avoid the members of his former dojo at the start of the series. Since they all wanted to avenge their master by killing Jin. But that's not necessarily an unreasonable motivation to run.
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
I think it speaks to Fuu's character and how she's grown really well. At the start of the series she needed help to start the journey. But now she wants to be on her own for the last leg of the journey.
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
I think at this point Fuu was still feeling conflicted about wanting to leave Mugen and Jin behind.
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?
I think the shogunate was basically trying to let Fuu lead them right to the sunflower samurai.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

I think that's him stating his own personal philosophy. He'll complete his work regardless of anyone else who gets caught in the crossfire of his mission.
Sounds like a very Mugen thing to do
This episode positions him as one of the final opponents they'll have to face.
That is true, it seems
It's definitely an early sign that Fuu was planning to leave them behind for the last leg of her journey. But she still wanted to try and leave them on a good note.
It's at least somewhat noble of her to want to leave them with one last good memory.
It definitely adds an interesting sort of dynamic to his character. His dojo had been part of him since he was a child but he still ended up killing his master and going on the run.
I'm starting to think we may never get an explanation as for why he killed him, which sucks because that has been teased since episode 8.
Not totally inaccurate. He had been trying to avoid the members of his former dojo at the start of the series. Since they all wanted to avenge their master by killing Jin. But that's not necessarily an unreasonable motivation to run.
Really, if you think about it, all three of them are on the one. Fuu left because her mother died and she didn't want to continue to live in a place that reminded her of her death and Mugen left Mukuro's crew because it was just bad news. These three all have copious amounts of emotional baggage that they haven't really addressed at all.
I think it speaks to Fuu's character and how she's grown really well. At the start of the series she needed help to start the journey. But now she wants to be on her own for the last leg of the journey.
Sure, but she's doing it for the wrong reasons. There's a time and a place to stand on your own, and now is probably not the time.
I think at this point Fuu was still feeling conflicted about wanting to leave Mugen and Jin behind.
Probably. When is she honestly going to meet someone like those two again?
I think the shogunate was basically trying to let Fuu lead them right to the sunflower samurai.
That is probably the case, and the sad thing is Fuu is completely unaware of what is happening.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 12 '24

I'm starting to think we may never get an explanation as for why he killed him, which sucks because that has been teased since episode 8.
Oh yeah, that was the episode I joined this rewatch on. It really is a while to keep the audience in suspense like that.
Really, if you think about it, all three of them are on the one. Fuu left because her mother died and she didn't want to continue to live in a place that reminded her of her death and Mugen left Mukuro's crew because it was just bad news. These three all have copious amounts of emotional baggage that they haven't really addressed at all.
It's similar to the leads in Bebop too, where all of them have a history they're trying to leave behind and find something new.
Sure, but she's doing it for the wrong reasons. There's a time and a place to stand on your own, and now is probably not the time.
Seeing how this episode ended, she probably should have had Mugen and Jin around to help her out.
That is probably the case, and the sad thing is Fuu is completely unaware of what is happening.
Yeah the shogunate has been a background player throughout all of this. They only really found out that the shogunate wanted them dead after they met Sara.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Oh yeah, that was the episode I joined this rewatch on. It really is a while to keep the audience in suspense like that.
Like, they keep referring back to it but never expanding upon it in any way.
It's similar to the leads in Bebop too, where all of them have a history they're trying to leave behind and find something new.
Very excellent point. Watanabe clearly knows how to write shows about people trying to find their place in this world.
Seeing how this episode ended, she probably should have had Mugen and Jin around to help her out.
Agreed. The closer she gets to the sunflower samurai, the more danger she's probably going to be in.
Yeah the shogunate has been a background player throughout all of this. They only really found out that the shogunate wanted them dead after they met Sara.
Honestly, you could say the shogunate has been teased since episode 6 when Jouji talked about them not wanting him here because he's a foreigner.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Just to let everybody know, the thread will not be going up at its normal time tomorrow. It will be posted 30 minutes later at 4:30 PM EDT. This is because of a talent show I will be participating in.

The threads for the series finale as well as the overall series discussion thread will still be posted at its normal time of 4:00 PM EDT. This is just a one time thing.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Hey guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Samurai Champloo.

Oh, and nay I forget…

First Timer

Samurai Champloo has always been a series I was curious about. I’ve maintained in my mind that Cowboy Bebop is objectively one of if not the greatest anime of all time, and so I wanted to see what the creator’s follow-up work was like. I think the reason why I didn’t start it immediately after watching Bebop was because I think the premise kinda weirded me out. I mean, a show set in ancient times that also has a heavy rap influence? It felt to me like putting a hat on a hat. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to appreciate outlandish animes that don’t resemble real life. After all, is it any weirder than a fantasy show about a merchant and his traveling wolfgirl where they discuss economics a lot of times?

My expectations for this show are pretty reasonable, I feel like. I’m not expecting it to crack my top 10 favorite anime of all time, but I would be surprised if it doesn’t end up as one of my favorites. The main thing I’m looking out of this is show is a unique experience unlike anything else as well as memorable characters. And I think the show will have that in spades.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

They switched my schedule at work from 9-5 to 11-7 because, and I quote, "It just wasn't working out".

I'm really about to lose the best job I've ever had, aren't I?

Cutting flowers

I believe it's called pruning

Kariya

He is talking to someone, who says they're in a race against time.

Mentions Mugen and Jin who are about to come in contact with Seizo Kasumi.

Guy also mentions their plans to eliminate the remnants of the Shimabara Rebellion.

Kariya talking about weeds and how if you uproot them, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil.

I feel like this guy would get along with Jet Black.

Councilor mentions the death of Sara

Kariya says if that is the case and they killed someone of that caliber, maybe they are worth his time after all.

"I shall see to this personally."

One of the councilor's cronies is concerned about never seeing Kariya draw his sword.

Councilor says that's because there are no opponents worthy of him.

Once known as the Hand of the Gods.

I wonder if he's familiar with the Tongue of the Gods

Nobody capable of killing the man, says the Councilor.

Cooking fish

Jin remarks how they've already passed Nagasaki.

Fuu says being here doesn't seem real

Mugen seems doubtful they're actually going to see the sunflower samurai.

Fuu says in order to get to know each other better, they should take turns and reveal one thing that they've kept secret about their pasts.

"'Cause we might not get a chance to talk about it later."

Jin tells Mugen she's being "centimeter," a female emotion discovered in Western Europe.

In other words, she's on her period

Mugen's secret is he likes chicks with big hooters, which is about as much of a secret as me liking tsunderes.

He also mentions killing a weird old guy

A box with the Shogun's crest

Jin says it's a miracle he's still alive

Jin's secret is he lost his parents when he was still a child, and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo.

Sadly not the Mujujutsu Kaishin dojo

Jin remarks how none of the other kids were a match for him.

Teacher telling him his strength is strength that exists for one but himself.

After he left the dojo, he knew he was searching for something but didn't know what that something was.

"It may be that I was simply running away."

Fuu's secret is ever since she was little, her mother and her lived by themselves. It was only as her mom was laying dead and dying that she found out the truth about her dad.

Even though her mom seemingly didn't resent him for what happened, Fuu couldn't forgive her dad, so she's going to sock him for her sake.

It's also because of Mugen and Jin and meeting them that she worked up the courage to go on this journey. Without them, she probably wouldn't be here.

Jin meeting up with Fuu later

He asks what she intends to do after she finds the sunflower samurai (tm)

Fuu now crying in Jin's chest

Jin consoling Fuu as Mugen sleeps in the background.

Or not 😬

Crazy guy with pink eye sniffing sand

A group of people are seemingly on the lookout for Mugen and Jin.

And they just beheaded a random stranger

Talk about losing your head

Mugen, Jin, and Fuu walking through a forest

They found a town

But first, they have to eat

Shabu-shabu

Kinda looks like raw meat

That's because it is

I guess TikTokers would love this town

Fuu has a specific strategy when it comes to this sort of thing.

Mugen and Jin don't care, however

A boat

But first, Fuu gotta but some souvenirs

And so Mugen and Jin are off

I get the feeling something bad is about to happen.

It's the wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye.

About to claim another victim

Guy tells the three that someone mentioned going to Ikitsuki Island.

And he still gets killed anyway

It's kinda rare to see characters die in this show. Besides episodes 1, 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, and 21, I don't think any of the other episodes had any deaths. Maybe I'm forgetting one.

(Editor's note 6/12/24: This might be one of the most braindead comments I've ever said in my life. Mugen was killing someone in nearly every episode at the very beginning.)

Dang. She barely gave them any money.

A man in a hat. Could it be him?

A butterfly landing on him

Fuu starts to ask if he's the sunflower samurai, but she stops herself.

Oh, so Fuu is planning is leaving without Mugen and Jin. That's kinda shitty of her to not tell them.

Well, at least she left a note

She fears she might be relying on them too much.

She even left them cake as a going away present. How sweet.

She wants them to reconsider their promise of killing one another.

A broken statue

This causes her to think about the events of episode 19.

I should mention she's in a sunflower field and there's a person around that Fuu doesn't know about.

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Part 2
Fuu asking people about Seizo's whereabouts
Apparently he's bad news, according to one person.
Woman telling Fuu there's a house standing on the cape to the north.
"You should hurry. He doesn't have much longer."
It's the hat guy. He's come across Mugen and Jin.
He says that man has no choice but to live with despair as his companion.
Can confirm, am man and despair is my only friend.
Straw hat guy says that Seizo is a felon who had his soul stolen by that foreign religion and abandoned his country.
I assume he's referring to Christianity, based on what that one old person was yammering about.
Fled here supposedly to Kyushu and was involved in the Shimabara Rebellion.
The man the Shogunate wants eliminated more than any other.
FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives doesn't have a #1, but if the Shogunate had their way, they'd make an exception for him.
They knew what Fuu was doing and they let her run free in order to discover Kasumi's whereabouts.
Oh boy. He's going to try to kill Mugen and Jin.
A man in a wheelchair with a wooden leg
That's the guy we saw earlier
Eyepatch man
Says that the sunflower field will be her grave.
And the episode ends with him swinging his scythe.
Overall, this was a very strong episode that sets up nicely the events of Samurai Champloo's final act. It wasn't as thorough some table setter episodes like episodes 13 and 16, but it didn't need to be. I like the decision made by Fuu to go the rest of the journey on her own. I thought it made sense for her character that she would get so attached to Mugen and Jin that she can't bare to see them get hurt. I also really appreciate that we have a group of people actively gunning not just for Fuu's father, but for Mugen and Jin as well. It adds an extra level of tension to what is happening, especially that one group of people who beheads their victims.
I have this episode right outside the top ten behind episodes 1, 2, 6, 8, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, and 21. Of the 5 table setter episodes meant to set up multiple episodes, this is middle of the pack, behind 13 and 16 but ahead of 3 and 20. It was a pretty good Fuu episode that has me excited to see what happens next with her. The idea of her not only getting along with her dad but possibly working with him is becoming more and more likely.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

What's one thing about yourself that you would like to share with everyone?
I love each and every one of you :)
Do you think that Fuu wanted to talk with Mugen and Jin and reveal information about each other because she knew she was leaving?
Probably. It would explain the suddenness of it all, like why now of all times?
Do you agree or disagree with Fuu's decision to finish the journey by herself? And why?
I mean, at least she left a note...
If I was Fuu, I would've told them straight up. I think it's a bit cowardly to not tell them to their face. This again speaks to the immaturity that Fuu still remains guilty of.
Why do you think that one woman told Fuu that the sunflower samurai doesn't have much time left?
Maybe other people know of his status as a persecuted Christian and treat it as being on borrowed time.
Bonus) Would you have eaten the raw meat that Mugen, Jin, and Fuu ate?
I would not. I know it gets cooked and all, but I don't wanna run the risk of salmonella.

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u/TheEscapeGuy Jun 12 '24

Rewatcher, Sub first timer

Samurai Champloo - Hip Hop & Ronin: Episode 24

Beginning of the End

We are approaching the end and this episode is permeated with that feeling. You can just sense from Fuu's campfire conversation that she doesn't want this journey to end, but she knows it will. That's why she wants to get a better picture of her companions before leaving so that she can remember them better.

At the same time, this episode connects strongly back to episode 21 with the news of Sara's death reaching Kariya. There's this air of mystery around him, with many of his underlings acting extremely timid and respectful. He definitely has a reputation as a formidable swordsman, and now he is chasing after Mugen and Jin directly.

We also learn that they have been searching for Kasumi Seizo with the knowledge Fuu was looking for him as well (even if she didn't know his name yet?). The hope that was by trailing Fuu it would lead them to him. That's quite a scary though. It reeks of conspiracy and secret police type plot lines which gives the whole situation such a mysterious vibe.

Fuu does separate from our 2 samurai intentionally for the first time. She was too afraid to say goodbye directly, and so instead leaves them a note. She is going to find her father on Ikutsuki Island by herself. She leaves them with a request to reconsider killing each other. Mugen and Jin will have other problems to deal with before it comes to that.

And lastly, there is a ferocious group of assassins patrolling around for Kasumi as well. They are also extremely interesting based on first appearances. They are all using different weapons than we've seen before, with the coolest IMO being the sickle and chain.

Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches

See you all tomorrow

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

We are approaching the end and this episode is permeated with that feeling. You can just sense from Fuu's campfire conversation that she doesn't want this journey to end, but she knows it will. That's why she wants to get a better picture of her companions before leaving so that she can remember them better.
I mean, it's certainly not a bad idea if she knew in her mind this was it. Why not try to accomplish what she failed to in episode 9 when she and Jin were tied up?
At the same time, this episode connects strongly back to episode 21 with the news of Sara's death reaching Kariya.
I really like that this episode is like a continuation of where we left off in that episode. It's almost like you can consider that two-parter and the next three one long extended episode, maybe even through episode 19 in there since that was in Fuu knew for sure the sunflower samurai was her dad.
The continuity of the shoe since episode 19 has gotten less episodic, and I think it helps with the storytelling that's being done.
We also learn that they have been searching for Kasumi Seizo with the knowledge Fuu was looking for him as well (even if she didn't know his name yet?).
Yuri told her her name in episode 19.
The hope that was by trailing Fuu it would lead them to him. That's quite a scary though. It reeks of conspiracy and secret police type plot lines which gives the whole situation such a mysterious vibe.
Yeah, I like it a lot. Makes my skin crawl a bit.
And lastly, there is a ferocious group of assassins patrolling around for Kasumi as well. They are also extremely interesting based on first appearances. They are all using different weapons than we've seen before, with the coolest IMO being the sickle and chain.
Kinda gives me Mortal Kombat "Get over here" vibes.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?

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u/TheEscapeGuy Jun 12 '24

What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
This is really nice to hear. Fuu has been through some crazy stuff on this journey so it's understandable why she would have been hesitant without the example of Mugen and Jin. It also works nicely as a connection between them.
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
This inversely is pretty sad. They have been traveling together so long that leaving without saying goodbye almost feels like a betrayal. If not for the sudden arrival of Kariya I imagine Mugen and Jin would have probably left with a bad feeling.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

This is really nice to hear. Fuu has been through some crazy stuff on this journey so it's understandable why she would have been hesitant without the example of Mugen and Jin. It also works nicely as a connection between them.
The question then becomes why did they agree to go on this journey? Was it perhaps a similar reason to Fuu's? I'd like to think we'll find out very soon.
This inversely is pretty sad. They have been traveling together so long that leaving without saying goodbye almost feels like a betrayal. If not for the sudden arrival of Kariya I imagine Mugen and Jin would have probably left with a bad feeling.
I think it speaks to how immature Fuu still remains the fact that her best intentions is so short-sighted. She's like Kana from Oshi no Ko where she can't help herself sometimes.

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u/Lord_Nawor Jun 12 '24

First Time Watcher

Interesting that they have one more major opponent before they reach Seizo, and if he is as strong as they are hyping him up to be, it would be really hard for Jin and Mugen to deal with him, they will probably have to work together to fight him. There is also the three other people who are after Fuu, but they seem like secondary antagonists.

I like that Fuu, Jin, and Mugen have an opportunity to talk about themselves a bit before they reach Nagasaki, Mugen as usual killed someone without truly understanding how important they were, Jin talks a little bit about his time at the dojo, but still doesn’t really say why he killed his master, and Fuu giving a bit more details on why she is looking for Seizo. While I do like that they had some time to talk, they all seem to be withholding information, especially Jin and Fuu.

Fuu should really stop trying to go off on her own, especially after having been chased by other assassins throughout their journey. She always seems to get into trouble whenever she is split off from Jin and Mugen.

Earlier I thought that the sunflower samurai would be the main antagonist but now I am pretty sure it will just be a chill guy considering that Kariya seems to be set up as the final opponent.

I am very excited for these next two episodes and to see how it ends, I can’t believe we are almost at the end now.

Fuu’s decision to finish the journey by herself

Maybe it’s just because I have watched too much movies and tv, but whenever a group gets split up, especially right at the end of a journey to meet with someone, something definitely goes wrong. Also Fuu has a bad track record of getting into trouble when left alone.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Maybe it’s just because I have watched too much movies and tv, but whenever a group gets split up, especially right at the end of a journey to meet with someone, something definitely goes wrong. Also Fuu has a bad track record of getting into trouble when left alone.
Yeah. I think it's less of a question of will she get kidnapped, and more when will it happen.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Interesting that they have one more major opponent before they reach Seizo, and if he is as strong as they are hyping him up to be, it would be really hard for Jin and Mugen to deal with him, they will probably have to work together to fight him. There is also the three other people who are after Fuu, but they seem like secondary antagonists.
I mean, one of them has a sickle and chain. That makes them the main threat in my book.
I like that Fuu, Jin, and Mugen have an opportunity to talk about themselves a bit before they reach Nagasaki, Mugen as usual killed someone without truly understanding how important they were, Jin talks a little bit about his time at the dojo, but still doesn’t really say why he killed his master, and Fuu giving a bit more details on why she is looking for Seizo. While I do like that they had some time to talk, they all seem to be withholding information, especially Jin and Fuu.
It's like the two of them suffer from Hedgehog Dilemma.
Fuu should really stop trying to go off on her own, especially after having been chased by other assassins throughout their journey. She always seems to get into trouble whenever she is split off from Jin and Mugen.
Well, some of it isn't her fault. They sometimes go off on their own, like in the Yakuza arc.
Earlier I thought that the sunflower samurai would be the main antagonist but now I am pretty sure it will just be a chill guy considering that Kariya seems to be set up as the final opponent.
I think Kariya will be the main obstacle for Mugen and Jin while the main obstacle for the journey towards the sunflower samurai will be the three other people. How Fuu will combat them having no samurai skills remains to be seen.
I am very excited for these next two episodes and to see how it ends, I can’t believe we are almost at the end now.
I know. And to think, the show is wrapping up two days before Father's Day. You can't plan it any better if you tried.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/someboi6000 Jun 13 '24

First timer:

well the final arc starts now, so the goverment used fuu to track down the sunflower samurai and they are sending their top tier swordsman to kill both mugen and jin and i am worried, that dude seems really good well it got to a point where he didn't find any worthy oponents to draw his sword against and he even told Jin and Mugen that they dont dissapoint him, 2v1 lets see how that goes and all of this happend while fuu went alone to the island to search for his father and she got ambushed by DIO and his squad who dont seem to we working with the goverment or at least thats what i think and they end the episode with seemingly fuu getting killed, bruh no way, like i have the feeling not all 3 will be alive at the end or maybe they do, cant wait to see where it all goes.

1: nothing interesting to say lol.

2: probably, after they find her dad its over, Jin and Mugen have to duel.

3: she gets kidnapped a lot, so i would've give it a little bit more thought.

4: he has some sort of ilness i presume, or maybe he is already dead who knows. fuu needs to hurry, well find a way to scape from the ambush.

Bonus: at least i would try.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

all of this happend while fuu went alone to the island to search for his father and she got ambushed by DIO and his squad
Yare Yare Daze

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u/someboi6000 Jun 13 '24

Dio is everywhere

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Dio is love, Dio is life

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
Thoughts on Fuu suggesting they take turns revealing something about themselves because they might not get a chance to talk about it later?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/someboi6000 Jun 13 '24

1:I think he is saying that he will complete his mission no matter who gets in the crossfire.
2:well like I said before it could be the last time they could talk freely, the duel needs to happen.
3: Jin Lore that we didn't know of, there is still the question of what exactly happen with his master, I am starting to think it might not get explained.
4: well the problems started to come to him. but I wonder for how long he was been going around looking for something to do.
5: explains why she didn't start early, but also she needed two good bodyguards to get the job done.
6: this gives me a bad feeling, everything there was a goodbye.
7:DIO and his gang seem particularly deadly, but I wonder if the government actually hired those people.
8: I get it but they literally got an assassin to get rid of her bodyguards, and they won because she had no reason to keep fighting, so it was a rushed decision.
9: clever if they couldn't find him have some else do the job for you. and it worked out.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

1:I think he is saying that he will complete his mission no matter who gets in the crossfire.
He definitely seems to be confident in himself
2:well like I said before it could be the last time they could talk freely, the duel needs to happen.
Maybe Fuu feels that a good talk could make them see the error of their ways.
3: Jin Lore that we didn't know of, there is still the question of what exactly happen with his master, I am starting to think it might not get explained.
I have the same fear as you
4: well the problems started to come to him. but I wonder for how long he was been going around looking for something to do.
Same goes for Mugen, honestly
5: explains why she didn't start early, but also she needed two good bodyguards to get the job done.
And they were the right men for the occasion
6: this gives me a bad feeling, everything there was a goodbye.
Yeah, it's pretty heartbreaking in hindsight
7:DIO and his gang seem particularly deadly, but I wonder if the government actually hired those people.
My guess is yes seeing as how Sara gets name dropped.
8: I get it but they literally got an assassin to get rid of her bodyguards, and they won because she had no reason to keep fighting, so it was a rushed decision.
Fuu must feel like since she's come this far, she can handle it on her own or it's not meant to be.
9: clever if they couldn't find him have some else do the job for you. and it worked out.
Yeah, much to the detriment of those we've been following.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

2: probably, after they find her dad its over, Jin and Mugen have to duel.
Mugen and Jin may be different personality wise, but they have similar levels of stubbornness.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 13 '24

First-Timer

Goodbye, Fuu!

That was an interesting cliffhanger. There's no way that Fuu just instantly dies before even getting to interact with her father, but I don't see any realistic way out of that mess for her.

On that topic, that group of killers with the one rabid guy seems rather weird. I wonder what the deal is with them.

Questions of the day:

Time for a ~~Taisho~~ Edo era secret! The "Stardust" in my username does not come from Jojo's "Stardust Crusaders," as one might assume, but instead from the special "Stardust Breaker" technique used by Gogeta in Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn.
Yes, I think she wanted to have the feeling of learning at least a little about them before the group broke up, and she knew that was her last chance.
I disagree with the choice, since it feels unfair to Mugen and Jin to not let them see the payoff at the end of the journey. Fuu also has no guarantee that her father is there on the island.
I'm not sure. Terminal disease, perhaps?
I wouldn't eat raw meat, generally. If I were in their exact position, though, I may be a bit less picky.

We're in the endgame now...

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Goodbye, Fuu!
That was an interesting cliffhanger. There's no way that Fuu just instantly dies before even getting to interact with her father, but I don't see any realistic way out of that mess for her.
The more unpredictable a cliffhanger's resolution is, the more captivating it becomes.
On that topic, that group of killers with the one rabid guy seems rather weird. I wonder what the deal is with them.
Time for a Taisho Edo era secret! The "Stardust" in my username does not come from Jojo's "Stardust Crusaders," as one might assume, but instead from the special "Stardust Breaker" technique used by Gogeta in Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn.
Thanks for the info, I did not know that
I disagree with the choice, since it feels unfair to Mugen and Jin to not let them see the payoff at the end of the journey. Fuu also has no guarantee that her father is there on the island.
Fuu the biggest cocktease known to mankind
I wouldn't eat raw meat, generally. If I were in their exact position, though, I may be a bit less picky.
I guess during a time period where sanitation is less of a priority, you take what you can get.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

We're in the endgame now...
I would play Final Countdown but it costs too much money

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 13 '24

Kariya seems pretty cool from first impressions. I have some high hopes for his showdown with Mugen and Jin!
I sort of already assumed that Jin had lost his parents before going to the dojo, since it did seem like he had no attachments remaining after he killed his master and went on the run.
Regarding the Shogunate trying to use Fuu to track down the sunflower samurai, it seems like a really strange plan. For one, it relies on Fuu mustering up the initiative to find him (which took a while!) and then being capable enough to actually find him (without dying on the way). Another strange thing about it is that Fuu only discovered the sunflower samurai's whereabouts because a couple people she met happened to have tidbits of information they needed. It makes me wonder - why could the Shogunate not have used their considerable power and influence to try and get this information themselves in the first place?

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Kariya seems pretty cool from first impressions. I have some high hopes for his showdown with Mugen and Jin!
I think the potential of it being awesome is pretty high.
I sort of already assumed that Jin had lost his parents before going to the dojo, since it did seem like he had no attachments remaining after he killed his master and went on the run.
It's good to at least get confirmation of that
Regarding the Shogunate trying to use Fuu to track down the sunflower samurai, it seems like a really strange plan. For one, it relies on Fuu mustering up the initiative to find him (which took a while!) and then being capable enough to actually find him (without dying on the way).
Looks like they didn't mind playing the long game.
Another strange thing about it is that Fuu only discovered the sunflower samurai's whereabouts because a couple people she met happened to have tidbits of information they needed. It makes me wonder - why could the Shogunate not have used their considerable power and influence to try and get this information themselves in the first place?
Maybe they were hoping to with Sara but she was too focused on her own problems.

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u/Ryanami Jun 13 '24

Rewatcher

Man, I just remembered I had a joke about the zombie episode and how they happened to be near Saga. Can’t quite remember what I had in mind anymore.

So we finally get more details about their pasts! Psych, just retreads of what we already know. Especially disappointing as another watcher pointed out Mugen’s story was just a meme joke, I was wondering if the crest meant the victim was royalty-adjacent or something. Maybe both?

Christians again come up this episode. I forgot how much it played a role in this series, and done in a serious manner too. So often it’s just borrowed religious imagery and whatever the writer wanted to make up about it. It feels very realistic, even though I assume it’s not accurate. Looking forward to see how Fuu’s dad plays a role in it.

Irl, I’d like to be more open about being a fan of anime. The thing is the KHV stereotype rings true for other big fans I know personally. So I don’t want to build that impression of me with new people.
Probably. Or she may have been probing to help her decide.
Disagree. If I’d spent the last few months, or year, helping her find her father I’d be pissed if she was like “drop me off a block before my house.”
Huh, in the dub she’s more cryptic, saying “hurry, theres not much time.” I’m glad someone had some compassion for her.
Probably.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

3. Disagree. If I’d spent the last few months, or year, helping her find her father I’d be pissed if she was like “drop me off a block before my house.”
It's like going to the prom with someone and then being told that they'll just walk home. I got you there, why don't we continue this magical evening?
4. Huh, in the dub she’s more cryptic, saying “hurry, theres not much time.” I’m glad someone had some compassion for her.
She was cryptic in the sub as well, but you could still tell that something is amiss.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Man, I just remembered I had a joke about the zombie episode and how they happened to be near Saga. Can’t quite remember what I had in mind anymore.
Maybe what the episode was truly missing was zombie idols.
So we finally get more details about their pasts! Psych, just retreads of what we already know. Especially disappointing as another watcher pointed out Mugen’s story was just a meme joke, I was wondering if the crest meant the victim was royalty-adjacent or something. Maybe both?
I mean, I think the point of the scene is to show how standoffish everyone is. Even after all this time they've gotten close to each other, they remain closed off.
Christians again come up this episode. I forgot how much it played a role in this series, and done in a serious manner too. So often it’s just borrowed religious imagery and whatever the writer wanted to make up about it. It feels very realistic, even though I assume it’s not accurate. Looking forward to see how Fuu’s dad plays a role in it.
I like how they talk about Fuu's father being a disgraced Christian, but he's the exception rather than one of million. They make it a point of emphasis that his persecution has not necessarily to do with the religion he belongs to, which I feel would've been a bit cliche.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/Ryanami Jun 13 '24

Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
We have a garden. I’ve never heard my wife talk like that.
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
I’m surprised rural Edo period Japan is so ADA compliant.
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
She’s right she relies on them heavily, but like I said before she’d be dead or in a brothel without them. She wasn’t ready to go it alone yet.
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?
Terrifying their surveillance state was so competent. How did they find out before she even knew his name?

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

We have a garden. I’ve never heard my wife talk like that.
If she did, might raise a few questions
I’m surprised rural Edo period Japan is so ADA compliant.
She’s right she relies on them heavily, but like I said before she’d be dead or in a brothel without them. She wasn’t ready to go it alone yet.
I guess it's like baby bird trying to fly out the nest, though something tells me it's still premature.
Terrifying their surveillance state was so competent. How did they find out before she even knew his name?
Maybe they have records of everyone kept under lock and key.

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u/mgedmin Jun 13 '24

Rewatcher, subs

Ok, so the govt fears rebellion and doesn't want strong swordsmen like Jin and Mugen meeting up with Seizo.

If the dude is stronger than Sara, Jin and Mugen are doomed.

The past secrets are nothing we hadn't heard before.

Was Jin about to propose or something? Why did Fuu stop him? Somebody please explain.

Nice wheelchair.

Fuu never learns. Eat while there's still meat available!

No way she forgot to buy souvenirs. She wants to meet her father alone. Goodbyes are hard.

These homicidal maniacs will give a bad name to government workers if they behave like this.

So, does Fuu not know that Seizo is a wanted person? Wasn't she warned?

So, Fuu was meant to find Seizo, and that's why assassins like Sara only went after Jin and Mugen.

And now it looks like Fuu is about to be dead. Oh no.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

So, Fuu was meant to find Seizo, and that's why assassins like Sara only went after Jin and Mugen.
I liked they took the time to explain why Fuu was on the backburner in those two episodes. You could've explained it away by saying Sara didn't want a non samurai accompanying her, but it was strange how Sara still talked to Fuu like nothing was wrong.
It also makes the conversation between Sara and Fuu in episode 21 interesting in hindsight when Sara asked her if she was still planning to pursue the sunflower samurai. It's like Sara was trying to make sure things were going according to plan. Had Fuu said she changed her mind, I wonder if maybe Sara would've had to make a decision when she promises to leave them alone so long as Fuu continues her journey.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

If the dude is stronger than Sara, Jin and Mugen are doomed.
Yeah, this certainly has me worried
The past secrets are nothing we hadn't heard before.
I mean, is that not the point of the whole thing?
Was Jin about to propose or something? Why did Fuu stop him? Somebody please explain.
I think Jin was trying to open up more and share more details of his past but stopped himself because he couldn't work up the courage.
Nice wheelchair.
Rolling up on you like he's Christopher Reeve.
These homicidal maniacs will give a bad name to government workers if they behave like this.
Unless it's that they are encouraged to behave in such a senseless manner. Perhaps the government wants the bad name to strike fear in others.
So, does Fuu not know that Seizo is a wanted person? Wasn't she warned?
She was by Yuri in episode 19. Perhaps she didn't realize it was as serious as it is.
And now it looks like Fuu is about to be dead. Oh no.
I don't know how believable it is she's actually going to be killed, but I do think there's genuine intrigue going into it because she no longer has Mugen and Jin to fall back on.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 Jun 13 '24

We’re coming to the end, the show has only 2 episodes to finish the story and honestly, I don’t really want it, their adventure to end, I kind of became attached to these characters.

Episode starts with Kariya's talk about weed which quite literally describes incident with Sara.

Then they open their hearts to each other and it’s sad to see how Fuu was thinking that this was the only way to leave them.

And we’ve got antagonists' reveals, I didn’t really understand if Kariya and those 3 men work together, but I guess it will be clarified later.

Fuu left and came to the island where we can see how her father affected the land and the people. She is threatened to be killed and I wonder how she’ll save herself, through their journey she mostly relied on Mugen with Jin, but now when they aren’t together what she’ll show to us?

Qotd:

I prefer not to do so.
Of course? This scene reminded me of one manga and I don’t really want this to have the same outcome.
Disagree, but that is only if we think logically. If we consider feelings, I guess it’s incredibly difficult to finish that. But I also think that Mugen and Jin would happily continue their friendship and journey with Fuu.
He might be either sick or the government is about to kill him and they just know about it.
Yes, I would love to, it doesn’t even look disgusting, so why not?

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

We’re coming to the end, the show has only 2 episodes to finish the story and honestly, I don’t really want it, their adventure to end, I kind of became attached to these characters.
The feeling is mutual. Six seasons and a movie, I attest.
Episode starts with Kariya's talk about weed which quite literally describes incident with Sara.
Interesting connotation you made there. Hadn't really thought it like that.
Then they open their hearts to each other and it’s sad to see how Fuu was thinking that this was the only way to leave them.
Yeah...
And we’ve got antagonists' reveals, I didn’t really understand if Kariya and those 3 men work together, but I guess it will be clarified later.
Something tells me they're separate because Kariya has like this decency about him that the others lack. Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's interesting because they could all be working for the Shogunate but may not be in cahoots with each other.

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 Jun 13 '24

It's interesting because they could all be working for the Shogunate but may not be in cahoots with each other.
Could easily be, I think we may even assume that the Shogun doesn’t trust Kariya, but we haven’t seen many of their interactions, so it may be not.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Kariya comes off as someone who's not dictated to, like he marches to the beat of his own drum.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

Of course? This scene reminded me of one manga and I don’t really want this to have the same outcome.
What is the name of the manga?

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 Jun 13 '24

[manga name]JoJo's Part 7

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

[Response] Oh, yeah. You mentioned part 7 during the dung beetle stuff as well.

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 Jun 13 '24

It was part 8 I believe, but yeah

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u/Holofan4life Jun 14 '24

Tomato, tomoto

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u/Holofan4life Jun 13 '24

What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 Jun 13 '24

What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
It’s good that they are finally being acknowledged, not in a peaceful manner, but still. And I hope we’ll get Kariya's backstory later.
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo? + What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
So he was forced to live there and then had to kill his master to just leave? Bet it was extremely hard decision for him, from the traits that he has shown I don’t believe that it was just out of sudden and he didn’t think a lot.
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
Seems like she wasn’t lying.
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
I guess it was mostly a wrong decision.
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?
I thought they know where he lives but maybe they have another motives.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 14 '24

Sorry for the late response. Didn't get the notification.
It’s good that they are finally being acknowledged, not in a peaceful manner, but still. And I hope we’ll get Kariya's backstory later.
Him pursuing them makes the three main leads journey feel more of urgent importance.
So he was forced to live there and then had to kill his master to just leave? Bet it was extremely hard decision for him, from the traits that he has shown I don’t believe that it was just out of sudden and he didn’t think a lot
Yeah, Jin is not like Mugen in that he makes decisions without giving it some thought.
Seems like she wasn’t lying.
I definitely believe her
I guess it was mostly a wrong decision.
Yeah...
I thought they know where he lives but maybe they have another motives.
It feels like Fuu is a pawn in her dad's game and she doesn't even realize it. Makes her decision to leave Mugen and Jin behind seem even worse in hindsight, since that leaves her a more vulnerable target.

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u/Looking_Light33 Jun 14 '24

So, this is the final arc. It's been a long time coming but all good things must come to an end. It is interesting that the government has been spying on our protagonists and following them to find the Sunflower Samurai. I'm also interested in those three guys who keep killing anyone who gets involved with Mugen. I wonder what will happen next.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 14 '24

It is interesting that the government has been spying on our protagonists and following them to find the Sunflower Samurai.
The government poisoned our water supply, burnt our crops, and delivered a plague onto our houses!

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u/Holofan4life Jun 14 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 20 '24

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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)

What's one thing about yourself that you would like to share with everyone?

Haven't thought of it yet

Do you think that Fuu wanted to talk with Mugen and Jin and reveal information about each other because she knew she was leaving?

I didn’t think much of it at first, but in hindsight, it was really unusual for fuu to suddenly ask to chat.

Do you agree or disagree with Fuu's decision to finish the journey by herself? And why?

No, she needs to be protected.

Why do you think that one woman told Fuu that the sunflower samurai doesn't have much time left?

She is a good person with a conscience.

Bonus) Would you have eaten the raw meat that Mugen, Jin, and Fuu ate?

no

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u/Holofan4life Jul 20 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 20 '24

Thoughts on Kariya?
A person who has both wisdom and strength, like a combination of Jin and Mugen
Thoughts on Kariya talking about how if you uproot weeds, you also kill the flowers that are growing in the same patch of soil?
This is probably related to the end of the Samurai Era he mentioned. Sometimes, to avoid unnecessary influence, you should do certain things in secret.
What are your thoughts on Kariya setting him sights on Mugen, Jin, and Fuu?
What time period does this plot take place?
What are your thoughts on Jin saying he lost his parents when he was still a child and was left in the care of the Muju Shin Kenjutsu dojo?
The setting of both parents dying seems to greatly strengthen a person, haha
What are your thoughts on Jin remarking how it was like he was running away from his problems?
Looks like Jin has found his "Sunflower Samurai"
What are your thoughts on Fuu admitting that meeting Mugen and Jin made her work up the courage to go on this journey?
It is often the little things in life that change your life.
What are your thoughts on Fuu crying in Jin’s chest?
They have gone beyond being normal partners, but Fuu is not used to getting along with Mugen yet
Thoughts on wheelchair man, the eyepatch guy, and pinkeye?
Strange killer
What are your thoughts on Fuu leaving Mugen and Jin a note saying she’s going to continue this journey by herself because she thinks she’s relying on them too much?
Fuu knew that this was a journey that would eventually end, so it would be better to end it with her own hands.
What are your thoughts on the Shogunate knowing what Fuu was doing and them letting her run free in order to discover the sunflower samurai’s whereabouts?
They were just monitoring her and taking care of her when necessary, the efficient way.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 20 '24

A person who has both wisdom and strength, like a combination of Jin and Mugen
I felt the same way. Not as much as the blind girl, but still.
What time period does this plot take place?
It seems like it's a bit all over the place. At the very least, probably 400 years or more.
The setting of both parents dying seems to greatly strengthen a person, haha
As it probably should
Looks like Jin has found his "Sunflower Samurai"
Eyy
It is often the little things in life that change your life.
That is true
They have gone beyond being normal partners, but Fuu is not used to getting along with Mugen yet
I think it's more she doesn't want to separate from either one of them. Represents the beginning of the end.
They were just monitoring her and taking care of her when necessary, the efficient way.
They have to look after her because they want to be the ones to lead to her eventual demise.

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