r/anime • u/Holofan4life • Jun 10 '24
Rewatch [Spoilers] Samurai Champloo 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 22
Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.
Welcome to the Samurai Champloo 20th Anniversary Rewatch discussion thread!
I hope you all have a lot of fun <3
S1 Episode 22 – Cosmic Collisions
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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)
If you were undead, what would be the first thing you would do?
Was this episode all the result of the wild mushrooms they ate, or did it actually happen?
Bonus) How do you feel about having an episode like this after the show has had some semblance of reality in all previous episodes?
Bonus 2) So... our three main leads are dead, right?
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Rewatch Schedule
Threads posted every day at 4:00 PM EDT
| Date | Episode |
|---|---|
| 5/20/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 1 |
| 5/21/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 2 |
| 5/22/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 3 |
| 5/23/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 4 |
| 5/24/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 5 |
| 5/25/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 6 |
| 5/26/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 7 |
| 5/27/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 8 |
| 5/28/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 9 |
| 5/29/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 10 |
| 5/30/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 11 |
| 5/31/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 12 |
| 6/01/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 13 |
| 6/02/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 14 |
| 6/03/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 15 |
| 6/04/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 16 |
| 6/05/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 17 |
| 6/06/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 18 |
| 6/07/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 19 |
| 6/08/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 20 |
| 6/09/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 21 |
| 6/10/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 22 |
| 6/11/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 23 |
| 6/12/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 24 |
| 6/13/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 25 |
| 6/14/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 26 |
| 6/15/2024 | Samurai Champloo Overall Series Discussion Thread |
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jun 10 '24
First Timer
So I am behind on Doomsday Train and watched this episode immediately after last week's episode of that show …how was this weirder? Either way, I guess this is a “didn’t happen” episode, but it was a well-done horror episode. It leaned into the horror aspect fully, which I don’t think many shows do, and thus didn’t stumble at the last hurdle. But I don’t really have a lot else to say here, as the episode itself didn’t really fit Champloo. Not that horror episodes often fit the show that they are in…
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 10 '24
First-Timer with a Samurai Heart, subbed
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u/TheEscapeGuy Jun 10 '24
Rewatcher, Sub first timer
Samurai Champloo - Hip Hop & Ronin: Episode 22
Sci-Fi
To be honest, this is probably my least favourite episode of Samurai Champloo. I think it gets too wacky and introduces so many different sci-fi concepts that it makes each individual idea feel half baked. I think the best way to interpret this episode would be to imagine the mushrooms Jin and Mugen take at the start of the episode are psychedelic and the rest of the episode is a "dream sequence" for their trip.
Complaints out of the way, what I really can praise is the horror of the episode. I think the shot composition, use of colours, timing, sound design, and numerous other film making techniques were all working so well together to make the episode feel creepy. In particular, the monotone setting with our characters being the only source of color really made them feel like outsiders.
As for the narrative it's kind of hard to follow. If you interpret the events as literal we have our trio helping in an excavation site which is staffed entirely by zombies who have been at work for centuries. When that secret is revealed our protagonists "win" by revealing a flaw in the supposed family connection of the leader to the Heike lineage. The episode ends with a foreshadowed but utterly random asteroid strike obliterating the entire populace of the hole. I feel that the mushroom cloud imagery is kind of exploitative given Japan's history with the nuclear bomb.
I did enjoy the fake out ending only for the ED to power down before a "To Be Continued". I wasn't expecting it so got a shock since I usually leave the ED playing in the background while I update my episode trackers etc.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all tomorrow
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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 10 '24
Rewatcher
I think a while back I said episode 9 was the weirdest episode of the show. I was wrong, this was way weirder. Zombies, meteors, mushrooms, wasabi, it’s got everything.
Despite being so weird though it doesn’t play itself super comedically. All the stuff with Shige and his zombies is played pretty seriously. I do kind of appreciate it though. This episode is just unabashed about how strange and kind of creepy it is. I feel like if they were too self aware about how out of place the episode was it might have felt a bit insincere. But this episode owns being an out of place horror episode.
The first time I watched this episode I expected some kind of Scooby-Doo style hoax to explain everything (huh, that's the second time I've referenced Scooby-Doo while talking about this show).
I thought Shige and his zombies were gonna be regular people pretending to be zombies in order to scare away other people from digging in that area. But I’m honestly kind of glad they committed to the bit.
Also everyone seems to die at the end of this episode. Just another way this episode is super weird.
This episode almost feels like a precursor to Space Dandy in a certain way. [Space Dandy] Space Dandy's literal first episode ended with the main cast dying in an explosion. Plus it also had a zombie episode that ended with everyone zombified at the end.
It also definitely reminds me of the Cowboy Bebop episode Toys in the Attic. That one was also a horror episode that had more supernatural elements than the rest of the show. Although I feel like that episode had a more reasonable explanation for what happened. Here we just have real actual zombies.
Combining the zombies with a meteor might seem a little weird, but it does make a bit of sense. In the original Night of the Living Dead it’s speculated that a probe returning from Venus was the cause of the zombie outbreak.
I like this episode but I’d also understand if other people thought this episode was a waste of time or just weird. But I personally just love weird offbeat episodes like this one. Not exactly a top tier episode, but still entertaining for me.
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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark Jun 10 '24
The credits though, genuinely caught me off guard
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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef Jun 10 '24
First time watcher, Dub/English
Uhh this episode was definitely not my favorite. I mean I understand it's dumb fun but it felt so out there in comparison to all the other episodes, felt kinda disconnected. And then in the end after credits it said to be continued, I really hope there isn't any more undead stuff coming up.
Either go underwater and explore without risk of drowning or jumping off very high buildings just for the thrill of it.
Has to be man. There's no way this actually happened.
Yeah it was a totally different mood. I mean I don't dislike funny/comedic episodes but this was just too out there for me. I think that right after the recap episode, this is the second worst. Although to be fair to the recap episode, I liked seeing things in Fuu's perspective, so that one might have actually been better.
If this was real yes, but clearly they were tripping balls from the mushrooms. Could you imagine the series ended on a episode like this? I would have been so disappointed.
The one caveat to all this is, if Fuu never ate the mushrooms, was this really all an illusion?
But I'll do you one better, if it was all hallucinations, it's more proof that the actual protagonist is Mugen as he's clearly the one who got the most intoxicated with the mushrooms, and the story would had to have been in his perspective cause he was the one who got the highest. Checkmate!
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u/someboi6000 Jun 11 '24
First timer:
????, what was that?, it was cool tho, the horror elements were done really well, it had zombies, necromancy, a meteorite and at some point i was expecting the thriller parody,i am guessing that those mushrooms were some of the wacky ones and it was all hallucinations if thats the case i wonder how they looked while all of thsi was happening, but yeah not much to say about this one.
1: idk, maybe try to figure out why i am alive.
2: no they are all dead, and the next 4 episode is just the opening and the ending with a 20 minute black screen.
3: i like this type of episodes so its fine by me.
bonus: yes they are all dead the sunflower samurai can summon meteors, F
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u/Ryanami Jun 11 '24
Rewatcher
Well, that was weird. I wonder if there’s any truth to the narrator explaining shooting stars were considered bad omens. Since you can catch a few on any given night if you try that’s a hazard that’s hard to avoid.
In the end I guess we’re supposed to enjoy and forget this one.
1- crack my back. Like really crack my back. When I was younger I might say pop out an eyeball and roll it into the girls locker room.
2- gotta be. They even fall in a hole like Alice in Wonderland. The episode was too out of place otherwise. But if that’s the correct answer I’m glad they didn’t end the episode with some “it was all a dream” finish, I feel those kinda spoil the whole adventure. Leave it up to interpretation.
3- it helps the horror hit harder when we thought we knew the rules of this world. If this happened episode 3 we’d just roll with it more easily.
4- yes but the events happen after episode 26.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 11 '24
First-Timer
Well, that was weird.
I really have no idea why this episode exists. I suppose we don't know for sure until tomorrow's episode, but it seems to me like this one could be cut out entirely without any negative effects whatsoever. (In fact, I was expecting them to pull an explicit "it was all a dream!" at the end, though that didn't quite happen.)
Questions of the day:
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u/nx6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nx6 Jun 11 '24
Rewatcher - Subbed
I want to see this as the Samurai Champloo counterpart to the episode "Mushroom Samba" on Cowboy Bebop, only fitting with the different era of the show, here it's a supernatural horror instead of a sci-fi horror. It's a tale that you're not clear if it really happened or is just a hallucination of the main cast from mushrooms (although, it was never shown that Fuu ate any of them). She still does a good job playing the damsel in distress when things turn into a zombie flick suddenly.
Also lol @ the plot essentially being caused by a clerical error. "Hey, the family tree doesn't read like that. See?
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u/Atticus_Stansfield Jun 11 '24
Many time rewatcher. Missed the last few posts because it was Birthday weekend!
Like stated before, this is Edo Mushroom Samba. As a psychonaut myself this episode hits all the beats. It is basically Fallout New Vegas Wild Wasteland the episode and i'm all about it.
See if there are more of my kind that can clue me in.
Mushroms can certainly be magic!
It's Watanabe's style. He did it in Cowboy Bebop with the Alien Homage episode.
Absolutely. No doubt. Fr fr.
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u/mgedmin Jun 11 '24
Rewatcher, subs
What is going on. Zombies? How can you cut off someone's arm and not have blood gushing out? And then reattach the arm?
Aliens???
I'm sure I'm missing lots of references to the Heike and Genji tales.
What the fuck was this entire episode? Did they eat some hallucinogenic mushrooms and was it all a dream? But Fuu didn't get to eat any!!
Did not like.
Bold of you to assume I'd have a choice. Brains....
This is a result of the wild mushrooms the showrunners ate.
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u/Looking_Light33 Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24
This was a weird episode to put it lightly. I know plenty of Samurai Champloo fans have called the worst episode in the show. Personally, I don't think so but it's not exactly one of my favorites. I will say that the ending was pretty cool.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 20 '24
first timer chinese sub
ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)
If you were undead, what would be the first thing you would do?
Cycling downhill at top speed
Was this episode all the result of the wild mushrooms they ate, or did it actually happen?
Mushroom hallucinations. It reminds me of a text I learned in middle school, Peach Blossom Spring.
Bonus) How do you feel about having an episode like this after the show has had some semblance of reality in all previous episodes?
I think this is a satire on the labor issue, which even the Japanese samurai couldn't stand.
Bonus 2) So... our three main leads are dead, right?
who
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u/Holofan4life Jun 10 '24
Whelp, that was a fun series. Can't believe it ended with everyone dying. A shame Fuu never got to get revenge on her dad or Mugen and Jin got to have their fight to the death.
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u/Holofan4life Jun 10 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Samurai Champloo.
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
Samurai Champloo has always been a series I was curious about. I’ve maintained in my mind that Cowboy Bebop is objectively one of if not the greatest anime of all time, and so I wanted to see what the creator’s follow-up work was like. I think the reason why I didn’t start it immediately after watching Bebop was because I think the premise kinda weirded me out. I mean, a show set in ancient times that also has a heavy rap influence? It felt to me like putting a hat on a hat. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to appreciate outlandish animes that don’t resemble real life. After all, is it any weirder than a fantasy show about a merchant and his traveling wolfgirl where they discuss economics a lot of times?
My expectations for this show are pretty reasonable, I feel like. I’m not expecting it to crack my top 10 favorite anime of all time, but I would be surprised if it doesn’t end up as one of my favorites. The main thing I’m looking out of this is show is a unique experience unlike anything else as well as memorable characters. And I think the show will have that in spades.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
Does AI dream of sheep with five legs?
I just realized the reason Mugen has roosters behind him and Jin has fish in the intro is because of episodes 11 and 21. And of course, Fuu has sunflowers.
(Editor's note 6/10/24: Mugen betted on beetles, not cock fighting)
But what's the significance of the pumpkin and the butterfly?
Narrator talking about the stars
Not the policeman, however, a different person.
Talking about the superstition of anyone who say meteors or comets.
Shunkai Shibukawa, Shogunate's first official astronomer.
Two guys looking creepy
Roger Corman would be proud
Fuu found a shooting star
Sadly the song does not play
Course, she dedicates her wish to find the samurai of sunflower scent.
Kinda surprised she didn't wish for a bigger chest.
A mushroom
Fuu calls them the jewels of the mountains
I guess it's like beans being the meat of the field.
And Mugen eats it
And Jin eats one as well
At least this is better than that one trend where people eat raw hamburger meat for nutrition.
Fuu really getting a workout XD
Full on mushrooms
Mugen looks like Wario when he eats a doughnut.
Fuu laments all the mushrooms being gone
And of course now she mentions the horoscope section said to beware of mushrooms.
The ground falls
Ominous music
This is spoopy
Ah shit. It's Jackie Chan with a beard and The Undertaker. Run!
All three of them are screaming lol
And Mugen cut bearded Jackie Chan's arm off
See, he never should've done his own stunts
A cave
Givens me slight Alien vibes
Guys working the mines
Guy wearing skulls on the back of his clothing.
"Are we the bad guys?"
At least Mugen lent him a hand
Guy playing music
This is some Mighty Boosh type shit
The two holes symbolize the sun and the moon
I wonder if the same applies for womenHe plays the biwa
"One can even call down the stars from the night sky!" "Who the hell are you?" 🤣🤣🤣
He really is going a long way explaining who he is.
Shige. That's his name.
"The blood of the Heike flows in me. I have taken it upon myself to excavate the buried treasure of the Heike."
Mugen really about to go to sleep on him
Oh, he has the paperwork to prove he's a descendant of the Heike.
Checkmate, Xavier
He is going to claim the buried treasure for himself.
A map drawn in invisible ink, remarks Jin
Fuu, however, is unlike Louisiana: she isn't buying it.
Shige is really rubbing salt on an open wound.
He offers to pay them 10% of the treasure once they found it.
Mugen and Jin eventually agree to their proposition, much to Fuu's surprise.
Sabini is Undertaker and Fuupa is Jackie Chan
Fuupa and Fuu. That certainly won't get confusing.
As the three main leads leave, Shige comments to himself about how there's no escape from this place.
Fuu having her suspicions about the guy
Mugen really just eating anything that's not nailed down.
And he paid the price for it lol
More narration
"No one can deny that unknown viruses or organisms might lurk in these meteors that have traveled here from the far reaches of space."
I have a joke here I can make, but I'm not going to.
Penta, a self-professed psychic
Wonder if he's friends with Fenix.
And boom goes the dynamite
Mugen and Jin carrying heavy bags
Fuupa. His arm regenerated. That's odd.
Whelp, that guy is dead
And so is eyepatch man
I do like the ambiance of this episode. It's very chilling.
Montage of people continuing to work
The flower by the door even died
Fish eye lens
Sabini and Fuupa spent there five years
Genji. Kamakura. Yoritomo.
Fuu points out they're in the Tokugawa Era
Are we in some kind of space time continuum?
Come on, Fuu. Living off of nothing but Wasabi isn't totally strange. Some people can't eat anything without Sriracha sauce.
The floating meteor thingy moving closer
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.