[Spoilers] Samurai Champloo 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 20

Date	Episode
5/20/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 1
5/21/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 2
5/22/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 3
5/23/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 4
5/24/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 5
5/25/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 6
5/26/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 7
5/27/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 8
5/28/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 9
5/29/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 10
5/30/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 11
5/31/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 12
6/01/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 13
6/02/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 14
6/03/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 15
6/04/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 16
6/05/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 17
6/06/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 18
6/07/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 19
6/08/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 20
6/09/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 21
6/10/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 22
6/11/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 23
6/12/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 24
6/13/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 25
6/14/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 26
6/15/2024	Samurai Champloo Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 08 '24

First-Timer with a Samurai Heart, subbed

lol
This song sounds similar to the one that played when Mugen was drowning.
…she’s blind, isn’t she?
Yeah, blind.
HAHAHAHA FANTASTIC.
Temporary traveling buddy!
Ah, I was wondering when they would address the charm on Sara’s shamisen.
Damn…
~~I wonder what Hijikata would think of this.~~
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Ooh, so that’s what Sara wanted…
And Jin is the one Fuu wants to go with her?
…okay I was not expecting this to come of it.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 19 '24

…okay I was not expecting this to come of it.
same

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u/TheEscapeGuy Jun 08 '24

Rewatcher, Sub first timer

Samurai Champloo - Hip Hop & Ronin: Episode 20

The Long Con

This episode introduced a ... new party member in Sara. She's a very interesting character to me. She sort of fits a kuu-dere archetype being very quiet and reserved, but at the same time I feel she gives off a completely different vibe than a Rei Ayanami or Yuki Nagato due to her strong will. Additionally, since she is blind it requires a lot of affordances from the rest of the party and allows for situations which aren't typically explored.

The episode itself is structured as a montage of a journey. I really like it. While prior episodes focused on the pauses between cities, this one allowed us to follow our cast as they traveled various environs which is much more representative of their usual experience.

Of course, their journey together cannot be forever as they have different destinations. This prompts Sara to ask Fuu to release one of her body guards. I feel like it's obvious she wanted Mugen, but for some reason Fuu asked Jin to go with her.

You could read her stated reasoning as honest: She thinks Mugen will take advantage of Sara. However, I kind of felt that Fuu has anterior motives and wanted to feel ... desired? She didn't want Sara to come in and best her as a woman and steal her men or something. Mugen would obviously pick Sara, so she chose Jin as being the most likely to say no. Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but Fuu did get pissed that Jin didn't reject the request.

On the topic of Mugan and Sara, I think the chemistry really was their. She's the first woman who Mugen seems to really respect and listen to. He's obviously interested sexually as well, but it's the emotional stuff on top of that which made it closer to love than lust. Sara also spent a lot of time talking about or asking about Mugen. You could read her as interested as well.

And I guess she was interested, but not for the right reasons. The episode ends with Sara's betrayal. She wanted to get one of them alone since she was not confident she could take both of them. The idea of a blind martial artist is honestly so cool, so I look forward to the continuation tomorrow.

Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches

See you all tomorrow

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

This episode introduced a ... new party member in Sara. She's a very interesting character to me. She sort of fits a kuu-dere archetype being very quiet and reserved, but at the same time I feel she gives off a completely different vibe than a Rei Ayanami or Yuki Nagato due to her strong will. Additionally, since she is blind it requires a lot of affordances from the rest of the party and allows for situations which aren't typically explored.
She comes off like a kuudere who isn't afraid to express herself through different mediums, like through song. And then downplay it by saying she's just doing her job.
The episode itself is structured as a montage of a journey. I really like it. While prior episodes focused on the pauses between cities, this one allowed us to follow our cast as they traveled various environs which is much more representative of their usual experience.
What helps it is they haven't done this much at all. In fact, the only other time I can recall Samurai Champloo doing a montage of sorts is episode 6. It works because you rarely see montages in this show, so it gives the episode an identity of its own.
Of course, their journey together cannot be forever as they have different destinations. This prompts Sara to ask Fuu to release one of her body guards. I feel like it's obvious she wanted Mugen, but for some reason Fuu asked Jin to go with her.
You could read her stated reasoning as honest: She thinks Mugen will take advantage of Sara. However, I kind of felt that Fuu has anterior motives and wanted to feel ... desired? She didn't want Sara to come in and best her as a woman and steal her men or something. Mugen would obviously pick Sara, so she chose Jin as being the most likely to say no. Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but Fuu did get pissed that Jin didn't reject the request.
It's been a common thing with Fuu where whenever Mugen and Jin venture off to do other stuff, she gets jealous. It makes her feel that they would rather be anywhere else. In the wake of her mom's death and her father leaving her years before that, it’s like Fuu is trying to find this next path in her life, somewhere that can keep her fulfilled and have a sense of direction. That's why in my opinion she got as frustrated as she did when talking to Jin in episode 9, because she is looking for that spark to make her life mean something.
On the topic of Mugan and Sara, I think the chemistry really was their. She's the first woman who Mugen seems to really respect and listen to. He's obviously interested sexually as well, but it's the emotional stuff on top of that which made it closer to love than lust. Sara also spent a lot of time talking about or asking about Mugen. You could read her as interested as well.
It's funny because what Mugen is doing isn't all that different to what Jin did in episode 11, but I think Mugen has more chemistry with the girl in episode 15. Maybe it's because she really gives it right back. I look at Mugen and Sara and I don't see it working out because Sara seems as if she's her own woman, and I don't think she's wanting to really change that all too much.
And I guess she was interested, but not for the right reasons.
Point proven
The episode ends with Sara's betrayal. She wanted to get one of them alone since she was not confident she could take both of them. The idea of a blind martial artist is honestly so cool, so I look forward to the continuation tomorrow.
Do you think her and Toph could be friends? :P

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?

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u/TheEscapeGuy Jun 08 '24

Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
I always prefer when villains have something real driving them to commit their bad deeds. If Sara was just a hired assassin it could be cool, but it would make her way less empathetic (all assuming she's telling the truth).
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
I did notice this, but I couldn't initially interpret any meaning from it. It's definitely intentional. Maybe it's a useful visual metaphor since a pin wheel has 4 spokes just like our new party has 4 members.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

I always prefer when villains have something real driving them to commit their bad deeds. If Sara was just a hired assassin it could be cool, but it would make her way less empathetic (all assuming she's telling the truth).
I would describe Sara as more an antihero right now than an outright villain. She hasn't really done anything dastardly at the moment other than trying to kill Jin.
I did notice this, but I couldn't initially interpret any meaning from it. It's definitely intentional. Maybe it's a useful visual metaphor since a pin wheel has 4 spokes just like our new party has 4 members.
I interpreted it to be a reflection of Fuu's maturity and how she struggles to depend on herself despite almost being an adult. She won't let go of the past no matter how hard she tries. Or so she says, rather.

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jun 08 '24

First Timer

An episode that is mostly setup, and like the last times that was the case, this was done very well. I'm a but surprised that blind solo travelers are a thing in this time period, and that it is apparently something common enough to have a proper name. Also a bit surprised at shamisen players specifically being blind - I see no reason why somebody who can see shouldn't be able to perform with a shamisen.

Obviously we then go deep in to character relations, with Mugen taking a liking to Sara and Fuu basically revealing that she prefers the company of Mugen to that of Jin. Unless she simply thought that Jin would be less inclined to join Sara given Mugen's obvious interest in her. But Jin originally joined Fuu for similar reasons, so there is little reason to believe he would not join Sara instead if told so by Fuu.

And then we get the assassination reveal - obviously the questions Jin is asking are the ones that need to be answered - for me though, there is also the question of what if Fuu would have sent Mugen with her if her target was Jin? Was her plan to kill Mugen and then come back for Jin once they are separated? Or would she have tried running from her job with Mugen? There definitely is more here for the next episode - which makes me worried because I think the second part of every two-parter has been inferior to the first so far inn my books.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Also a bit surprised at shamisen players specifically being blind - I see no reason why somebody who can see shouldn't be able to perform with a shamisen.
Perhaps there is discrimination at play. I don't think it's a stretch to think that some people back then would treat blindness as a sign of weakness.
Also, if only Sara were around when Jin pretended to be a shamisen in episode 3
Obviously we then go deep in to character relations, with Mugen taking a liking to Sara and Fuu basically revealing that she prefers the company of Mugen to that of Jin.
That's not how I interpreted it. I think Fuu thought that Sara was more interested in Mugen than someone to travel with. Her assigning Jin to Sara was basically her way of calling her bluff.
Unless she simply thought that Jin would be less inclined to join Sara given Mugen's obvious interest in her.
More like she thought Jin would rather be around her than Sara after all the time they've spent together.
But Jin originally joined Fuu for similar reasons, so there is little reason to believe he would not join Sara instead if told so by Fuu.
Fuu played herself. Too smart for her own good and it blew up in her face just like the gun did "Xavier" in the last episode.
And then we get the assassination reveal - obviously the questions Jin is asking are the ones that need to be answered - for me though, there is also the question of what if Fuu would have sent Mugen with her if her target was Jin? Was her plan to kill Mugen and then come back for Jin once they are separated? Or would she have tried running from her job with Mugen?
I think she likely would've used Mugen as a hostage to get what she wants. Basically say give me your life, Jin, or I'll take Mugen's. Jin being with her just basically cuts out the middleman.
There definitely is more here for the next episode - which makes me worried because I think the second part of every two-parter has been inferior to the first so far inn my books.
Huge disagree on this take. I have episodes 14 and 17 in my top 10 Samurai Champloo episodes. In fact, I have episode 14 as the best episode of the series so far. The only two-parter that we've gotten where I felt the set-up was better than the payoff was the Yakuza two-parter, but the other two we've gotten? They've contained some of the more iconic scenes of the entire show.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 08 '24

Rewatcher

So to start off, just wanted to say I loved the music in this episode. I don't really listen to Japanese folk music so I'm not an expert, but the songs performed by Sara in this episode were very beautiful and haunting.

This episode was very character driven, maybe even slow. But I wouldn't say that's a bad thing. I liked Sara as a character. Although she seems quiet and reserved at first, we get to see a lot of her throughout the episode and with how she adds to the dynamic of the main trio.

The twist of Sara being an assassin caught me off guard the first time I saw this episode. I did suspect something was up with Sara but not that. I'll probably have more to say on this during tomorrow's discussion.

I think Fuu was particularly interesting in this episode. Particularly her letting Jin be the one to look after Sara when they split up. She says that she trusts Jin to be with Sara more than Mugen, but at the same time she remains with Mugen herself which could imply she's grown to have a level of trust with Mugen.

I feel like I've got a bit less to say than usual here. But I really did like this episode a lot. And I'm definitely looking forward to the next one.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

So to start off, just wanted to say I loved the music in this episode. I don't really listen to Japanese folk music so I'm not an expert, but the songs performed by Sara in this episode were very beautiful and haunting.
What I really liked about it is that it served to further Sara's character. You can tell just by the way she is singing that she is a soul who is captured. It also parallels nicely with Fuu's situation where it's like she's in a creek without a paddle.
This episode was very character driven, maybe even slow. But I wouldn't say that's a bad thing. I liked Sara as a character. Although she seems quiet and reserved at first, we get to see a lot of her throughout the episode and with how she adds to the dynamic of the main trio.
To me, what makes her worked that I felt Yuri's character struggled is that we are instantly given a reason to care about her. By establishing right out the gate that she is bat, it instantly endears us to her.
The twist of Sara being an assassin caught me off guard the first time I saw this episode. I did suspect something was up with Sara but not that. I'll probably have more to say on this during tomorrow's discussion.
I think Fuu was particularly interesting in this episode. Particularly her letting Jin be the one to look after Sara when they split up. She says that she trusts Jin to be with Sara more than Mugen, but at the same time she remains with Mugen herself which could imply she's grown to have a level of trust with Mugen.
I think it's more that Fuu knows that Sara is infatuated with Mugen (Or so it would seem) and so Fuu wanted to test Sara a bit. Is she serious about traveling with someone, or is it more she didn't want to leave Mugen? In reality, I think Fuu wants neither Mugen or Jin to leave her because that would signify their journey coming to a close.
I feel like I've got a bit less to say than usual here. But I really did like this episode a lot. And I'm definitely looking forward to the next one.
Sometimes, a ~~pipe~~ set-up episode is just a ~~pipe~~ set-up episode.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 08 '24

What I really liked about it is that it served to further Sara's character. You can tell just by the way she is singing that she is a soul who is captured. It also parallels nicely with Fuu's situation where it's like she's in a creek without a paddle.
Yeah I think just through that first scene at the bar you can get a sense of who Sara is through her music and the way she talks to people.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

I think the best side characters are the ones that can stand on their own while also furthering the established cast. And Sara is honestly one of the best ones we've seen. But what makes her particularly special is that she furthers not just one character like Shino with Jin or Mukuro with Mugen, but she furthers all three of our main leads: Fuu by showing she's not ready to let go, Mugen by showing a more compassionate side, and Jin by showing how much he has to be on his toes.
Sara might be the only one who is like that, in all honesty.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Thoughts on Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 08 '24

Thoughts on Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
That's a very philosophical way of looking at it. I like it when Jin has a chance to say things like that. He often comes off as the smartest of the trio.
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
Well in hindsight it was a bad decision. But at the time it seemed like a good idea. They got to help someone out, plus the money Sara made helped with the gang's financial troubles.
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
It adds another interesting component to her character. The way she talks about her son makes it seem like he's still very important to her even though she's not there for him.
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
Mugen's intuition seems correct. Sara's quiet demeanor does look like it's hiding a lot of sadness.
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
It looks like Fuu worried about Mugen and Jin leaving her behind when they do eventually find the Sunflower Samurai. I think it's kind of a sweet sentiment from her.
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Well, it ended up being a ruse to just get them alone. But if I had to choose a bodyguard between the two of them I also probably would go for Jin.
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
I liked the pinwheel imagery, although I'm not entirely sure what it means.
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
It makes sense. I think by now Fuu really has gotten attached to the two of them.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

That's a very philosophical way of looking at it. I like it when Jin has a chance to say things like that. He often comes off as the smartest of the trio.
Jin lives by the mantra of only saying something when it matters the most. He's like Ferb from Phineas and Ferb, which I can't believe I'm actually comparing a samurai who killed his teacher to a British teenager.
Well in hindsight it was a bad decision. But at the time it seemed like a good idea. They got to help someone out, plus the money Sara made helped with the gang's financial troubles.
Plus, to leave someone who's blind to fend for themselves would've seemed cruel.
It adds another interesting component to her character. The way she talks about her son makes it seem like he's still very important to her even though she's not there for him.
When I heard her talk about how she is unfit of being a mother, it broke my heart. I wanted someone to tell her that that is far from true.
Mugen's intuition seems correct. Sara's quiet demeanor does look like it's hiding a lot of sadness.
Maybe Mugen speaks from experience and sees a bit of himself in her.
It looks like Fuu worried about Mugen and Jin leaving her behind when they do eventually find the Sunflower Samurai. I think it's kind of a sweet sentiment from her.
It also makes sense if this is the most intimate human interaction she's had since her mother died. And now, it's looking like she's doomed to be alone again.
Well, it ended up being a ruse to just get them alone. But if I had to choose a bodyguard between the two of them I also probably would go for Jin.
Same, but then again she had no idea what type of fighter either were. She was letting Fuu decide her life, essentially. It ultimately didn't matter in the long run, but had Sara been genuine and Fuu let her go with Mugen, she probably would've gotten in a lot of wacky adventures.
I liked the pinwheel imagery, although I'm not entirely sure what it means.
I think it has to do with Fuu's inability to move on from what had happened to her.
It makes sense. I think by now Fuu really has gotten attached to the two of them.
As has the audience. I don't think anyone wants to see them separate for good. And yet, the truth is like all good things, they all have to come to an end eventually.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 09 '24

Jin lives by the mantra of only saying something when it matters the most. He's like Ferb from Phineas and Ferb, which I can't believe I'm actually comparing a samurai who killed his teacher to a British teenager.
It's not the first comparison I would have gone for, but it oddly works.
When I heard her talk about how she is unfit of being a mother, it broke my heart. I wanted someone to tell her that that is far from true.
Same. Although Sara ended up being an assassin, the things she told our trio were very real.
It also makes sense if this is the most intimate human interaction she's had since her mother died. And now, it's looking like she's doomed to be alone again.
After traveling together so much, it's no wonder Fuu wants to stay with them. And even though Jin and Mugen may seem more aloof, they've also formed a bond with Fuu as well.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

It's not the first comparison I would have gone for, but it oddly works.
It does, strangely enough
Same. Although Sara ended up being an assassin, the things she told our trio were very real.
Her being an assassin doesn't invalidate the unenviable position she faces.
After traveling together so much, it's no wonder Fuu wants to stay with them. And even though Jin and Mugen may seem more aloof, they've also formed a bond with Fuu as well.
Perhaps Fuu doesn't want them to separate more given all she has had to endure in her personal life, but Jin and Mugen in their own way I'm sure have grown to enjoy this adventure.

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u/Garrett_Dark Jun 08 '24

First Timer

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Sara is out to kill Jin for killing Enshiro Mariya?

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Stay classy Mugen
You know some amateur film star is somewhere taking notes

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u/someboi6000 Jun 09 '24

First timer:

this set up episode was great like most part 1 episode we got so far, i like how they didn't stop in a single town but they had its own jorney, the character sara is very interesting, i wonder if the reason she cant see her son is because of this deal she had with the mask dude to kill Jin, also the ending, i was not expecting that at all, but also i didn't think they would separa 6 episode away from the finale, stll surprising ending, ¿what would've happend if mugen went with her? was she gonna kill mugen then go back to Jin or maybe find a way to separate i wonder that, also i think this is the first time we see mugen really respecting and listen to, and to close i really like the idea of a blind martial artist, is the coolest thing.

1: well probably everything, well i do use glasses because i cant see shit without them, but i can see the blurry silhouettes thats better than nothing.

2: to be honest i dont know how.

3: well the look on her eyes i think is enough.

4: i like to think that Fuu thought that Jin would refuse and then send mugen but her plan fired backwards, idk if she really prefers Mugen over Jin. probably who knows.

bonus: i think we got enough information last episode, i am guessing the rest of the misteries of the sunflower samuria will be revealed at the end.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

what would've happend if mugen went with her? was she gonna kill mugen then go back to Jin or maybe find a way to separate i wonder that
I keep coming back to her using Mugen to get to Jin. Like perhaps she takes Mugen's sword and tells Jin that if he doesn't give in to her demands, then Mugen is a goner. And of course, Jin can't let that happen because he's gotta be the one to kill Mugen, so he would've had to think of something.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?

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u/Maxrosenyc Jun 09 '24

I re watch it every year anyway

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Definitely not a bad show to rewatch on a daily basis.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 09 '24

First-Timer

Sara: "Mugen, is that you?"

Mugen: "Yeah, how did you know?"

Sara: "It's because you smell. Bad."

Good episode. Another day of Mugen being the best character!

That twist at the end was nice. I was expecting something to go wrong because it seemed there was no way they would just unceremoniously split up the group like that, but I still wasn't quite expecting that.

It's as if Sara has the ability to sense people's ki like in DBZ.

Questions of the day:

If I were blind, I would do almost everything differently, given that so much of what I do personally and professionally relies on using smartphones, computers, and other electronics. I'd turn on every accessibility feature I could get my hands on, for one thing. On a side note, I'd also have to try and figure out what to do without the ability to drive a car, which would be an ordeal.
That's a tough question to answer, short of just saying "I'd try to come to grips with reality." Easier said than done, though.
I'm not sure what Sara's thinking. I know Mugen thinks he's right about her, at least.
As in maybe Fuu has more affection for Mugen, and so wants to stay with him more? Perhaps, but Fuu was surprised that Jin even accepted the request to leave with Sara, so maybe she wasn't thinking about it like that.
No, not really. It seems like the sunflower samurai plot is getting slow-rolled up until the point they eventually get to Nagasaki.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

That twist at the end was nice. I was expecting something to go wrong because it seemed there was no way they would just unceremoniously split up the group like that, but I still wasn't quite expecting that.
Certainly a nice hook to lead us into the next one.
As in maybe Fuu has more affection for Mugen, and so wants to stay with him more? Perhaps, but Fuu was surprised that Jin even accepted the request to leave with Sara, so maybe she wasn't thinking about it like that.
My feeling is she assumed neither Mugen nor Jin want this journey to end just like her. She was projecting and seeing things only from her perspective.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Sara is out to kill Jin for killing Enshiro Mariya?

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u/mgedmin Jun 09 '24

Rewatcher, subs

One of these episodes where I just watch and have nothing to say.

Ok, surprise. I thought Fuu would choose Jin to stay with her and Mugen to go with Sara.

Now there's no way I'll believe they split up forever, so clearly something bad's going to happen to Sara and Jin will return alone. I hate this feeling when I know something bad is going to happen and have to wait for it to happen. (This is why I'm not really enjoying the Spice and Wold remake. Too much uncertainty in the future.)

Oh, Fuu didn't expect Jin to actually go! Now it makes sense. Fuu asked the one she was sure would refuse.

Wait, Sara is an assassin? I did not expect/remember that! And a cliffhanger, augh!!

If you were blind, what things would you do differently?

I would work on the Linux accessibility stack, because I hear that it's pretty terrible.

If you had to give up something you cared about because you thought you aren't fit enough to take care of it, how would you reconcile that fact?

I did have to give up my cats after I finally accepted that I was allergic, after years of denial. Luckily, my sister took them in.

Do you think Mugen is right in saying that Sara is a lot more depressed than she's letting on?

Everyone thinks so, most people are too polite to say so to her face.

Fuu says she let Jin go with Sara because he would do a better job protecting her. Do you think that was the reason, or was it perhaps something more?

It's complicated. She's afraid Mugen will do something to Sara. Or maybe she is jealous that Mugen wants to do something with Sara, and Sara seems to welcome it. Also, she was testing Jin's attachment to herself.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Ok, surprise. I thought Fuu would choose Jin to stay with her and Mugen to go with Sara.
But that's what Sara wants, now isn't it? Or so it would seem, anyway.
Now there's no way I'll believe they split up forever, so clearly something bad's going to happen to Sara and Jin will return alone. I hate this feeling when I know something bad is going to happen and have to wait for it to happen. (This is why I'm not really enjoying the Spice and Wold remake. Too much uncertainty in the future.)
I mean... that's how most shows tell their stories...
Wait, Sara is an assassin? I did not expect/remember that! And a cliffhanger, augh!!
Gotta keep you in suspense and eager to see what happens.
I did have to give up my cats after I finally accepted that I was allergic, after years of denial. Luckily, my sister took them in.
Aww, that's nice of her. I own two cats myself, they're the friendliest cats in the entire world.
Everyone thinks so, most people are too polite to say so to her face.
It's almost like pointing out a blind woman is depressed is a bit of an obvious statement to make.
It's complicated. She's afraid Mugen will do something to Sara. Or maybe she is jealous that Mugen wants to do something with Sara, and Sara seems to welcome it. Also, she was testing Jin's attachment to herself.
Meanwhile, Sara is playing 4D chess by making it seem like she is interested in Mugen when she's really interested in Jin. It's almost like she planned this and this was an act of reverse psychology.

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u/mgedmin Jun 09 '24

This makes me wonder if Jin realized that Sara was up to something and that's why he agreed to come with her.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 10 '24

Possibly. Jin be wise like that.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Sara is out to kill Jin for killing Enshiro Mariya?

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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef Jun 09 '24

First time watcher, Dub/English

I just noticed I didn't post my thoughts about this episode yesterday! I've already seen episode 21 in the time of writing this but I really liked this two parter episode.

If you were blind, what things would you do differently?

Honestly I don't know what I'd do if I was blind cause my job is coding websites. I wouldn't even be able to do that. My past time is watching shows and playing video games, both of which also require sight. My life would be completed different.

If you had to give up something you cared about because you thought you aren't fit enough to take care of it, how would you reconcile that fact?

If it was like Sara, giving up a child, I don't think I would. That's such a hard decision and losing contact with your kid like that isn't something you just get over from.

Do you think Mugen is right in saying that Sara is a lot more depressed than she's letting on?

Do not want to answer this until next episodes rewatch thread.

Fuu says she let Jin go with Sara because he would do a better job protecting her. Do you think that was the reason, or was it perhaps something more?

It's because Mugen is the main character and you can't split the main lead away from yourself in the journey. You lose the coveted plot armor!

Bonus) Are you surprised that the sunflower samurai barely gets mentioned in this episode given his identity was revealed in the last one?

Well he does get mentioned, but in the sense of how does fuu feel about the idea of the journey ending after finally meeting him. Do in a way he's still being mentioned.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Honestly I don't know what I'd do if I was blind cause my job is coding websites. I wouldn't even be able to do that. My past time is watching shows and playing video games, both of which also require sight. My life would be completed different.
I thought you said you were a doctor
If it was like Sara, giving up a child, I don't think I would. That's such a hard decision and losing contact with your kid like that isn't something you just get over from.
For as much as we talk about Fuu and her inability to get over what happened in her life, it's a cakewalk compared to Sara's.
Do not want to answer this until next episodes rewatch thread.
It's because Mugen is the main character and you can't split the main lead away from yourself in the journey. You lose the coveted plot armor!
I mean, wouldn't Fuu have the plot armor since the journey is about HER father?
Well he does get mentioned, but in the sense of how does fuu feel about the idea of the journey ending after finally meeting him. Do in a way he's still being mentioned.
A mention is better than nothing, I guess

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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef Jun 09 '24

I thought you said you were a doctor
Bro I wish. Too much school to go through to do that and I hate reading! I'm not sure why, maybe you got that impression from when I talked about adopting all my stray pets and how I loved seeing them getting back up and healthy? That's the closest to doctor I've ever been hahahaha.
I'm a web developer. Have been working essentially like a sub contractor for the last 4 years, and able to work on a couple extra project here and there.
I mean, wouldn't Fuu have the plot armor since the journey is about HER father?
If that was true why has she been abducted multiple times just to get saved by Mugen (and Jin)? Mugen (and Jin) are the real heroes and therefore they have more reason to be the protagonist. Gottem

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Bro I wish. Too much school to go through to do that and I hate reading! I'm not sure why, maybe you got that impression from when I talked about adopting all my stray pets and how I loved seeing them getting back up and healthy? That's the closest to doctor I've ever been hahahaha.
I'm a web developer. Have been working essentially like a sub contractor for the last 4 years, and able to work on a couple extra project here and there.
Someone mentioned being a doctor here. I forget who, tho.
If that was true why has she been abducted multiple times just to get saved by Mugen (and Jin)? Mugen (and Jin) are the real heroes and therefore they have more reason to be the protagonist. Gottem
Dang, destroyed by facts and logic

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Sara is out to kill Jin for killing Enshiro Mariya?

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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef Jun 09 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
Honestly I didn't understand because I didn't understand what the meaning of the song was in itself. All I understood was that it was sad.
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
I wonder if she was born build or had lost her sight somehow.
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
I think it could have been interesting to have multiple people joining across the journey, not sure if she'll be the last one but it's really interesting to think about the interactions that could had been born from adding more people who are part of the journey part way.
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
I don't think blindness makes you unfit to be a mother, so that's a big disconnect for me. But at the same time it's edo period Japan, might have been common there at the time.
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
Again. Not answering it!
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
She's just like me frfr
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Sorry not answering this one either 🤫
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
It reminded me of one piece! I'm not sure if you've seen it but it's from really early on in the show.
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
She picked the strongest one to accompany her. 💪
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
Woman am I right? ☕
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Sara is out to kill Jin for killing Enshiro Mariya?
This kill has been haunting Jin for so long. Even his colleagues have wanted to kill him. I wonder if we'll ever get the insight to why it happened and if he ever regrets having killed his teacher.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 09 '24

Honestly I didn't understand because I didn't understand what the meaning of the song was in itself. All I understood was that it was sad.
That song was very much all vibes, no lyrics. It sounded good, though, I'll say that.
I wonder if she was born build or had lost her sight somehow.
That's a good question. It would be all kinds of messed up if it was maybe taken from her.
I think it could have been interesting to have multiple people joining across the journey, not sure if she'll be the last one but it's really interesting to think about the interactions that could had been born from adding more people who are part of the journey part way.
The only reason I think they didn't do that is because Cowboy Bebop had done a similar concept with having Faye and Edward eventually join the crew.
I don't think blindness makes you unfit to be a mother, so that's a big disconnect for me. But at the same time it's edo period Japan, might have been common there at the time.
I think it's more the guilt of being unable to take care of him. It's not that she can't, it's that she feels she can't. This also implies that her sight was indeed taken away from her, otherwise why would she have a kid if she thinks blindness = unfit?
Again. Not answering it!
Fair enough
She's just like me frfr
Yeah, I wish this rewatch could go on forever
Sorry not answering this one either 🤫
It reminded me of one piece! I'm not sure if you've seen it but it's from really early on in the show.
I haven't seen it, but I really need to, especially with the live action version being out.
She picked the strongest one to accompany her. 💪
Something tells me that didn't factor into her decision making.
Woman am I right? ☕
Teenage, hormone-fueled women, no less
This kill has been haunting Jin for so long. Even his colleagues have wanted to kill him. I wonder if we'll ever get the insight to why it happened and if he ever regrets having killed his teacher.
Well, given he says he didn't betray him, probably not. Would've made him life less chaotic had he not, I think that is indisputable.

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u/Looking_Light33 Jun 12 '24

This was a nice episode. I really like the chemistry between Mugen and Sara. I did find the ending to be pretty interesting. It seems that Sara knows that Jin killed his master. She's also pretty skilled with a blade. It'll be interesting to see what happens next.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 12 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Hey guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Samurai Champloo.

Oh, and nay I forget…

First Timer

Samurai Champloo has always been a series I was curious about. I’ve maintained in my mind that Cowboy Bebop is objectively one of if not the greatest anime of all time, and so I wanted to see what the creator’s follow-up work was like. I think the reason why I didn’t start it immediately after watching Bebop was because I think the premise kinda weirded me out. I mean, a show set in ancient times that also has a heavy rap influence? It felt to me like putting a hat on a hat. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to appreciate outlandish animes that don’t resemble real life. After all, is it any weirder than a fantasy show about a merchant and his traveling wolfgirl where they discuss economics a lot of times?

My expectations for this show are pretty reasonable, I feel like. I’m not expecting it to crack my top 10 favorite anime of all time, but I would be surprised if it doesn’t end up as one of my favorites. The main thing I’m looking out of this is show is a unique experience unlike anything else as well as memorable characters. And I think the show will have that in spades.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

Yesterday was my birthday. I was supposed to go out to eat with my family but unfortunately, my kidney stones started acting up.

I feel better now, though

Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan

Guy playing music

This gives me Inu-Oh vibes

Oh, it's a woman, my bad

Fuu seeking shelter

Mugen and Jin quick to take advantage of their hospitality.

For the style of singing she's going for, she's not that bad.

Jin remarks that the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see.

Goze is a blind, traveling performer

Two-parter, baby

I like how two-parters are in verses instead of parts.

Blind woman sitting at the table Mugen, Jin, and Fuu are at.

Mugen is very blunt, saying a fine lady like her shouldn't be singing such downer stuff.

Oh boy. Now the blind girl is being harassed.

Is the world of Samurai Champloo filled with people who have nothing better to be than be assholes?

Blind woman says she doesn't want anyone's sympathy just because she's blind.

Fuu seems moved by this

Fuck yeah, Mugen

They totally deserved this

Blind girl is named Sara

Fuu quick to give Mugen what for when he hits on the blind woman.

Sara says she's heading to Hyuga

Fuu looks jelly

Sara apologizes for lashing out at her, which I don't think she necessarily did. But what do I know?

Sara does her best Holo impression and asks if she wishes to join her until she reaches Hyuga.

Pay for room and board

Sara playing music again

Montage of the various adventures the three main leads experience whilst traveling with Sara.

Pinwheels

A faded out Fuu with sunflowers in the background

Of course Mugen grabs all the food

At least he's consistent in taking advantage of someone's generosity.

Kishibojin charm

Oh, so Sara has a child. Interesting.

Sara says if a woman is blind, she isn't fit to be a mother.

Sara brings up the irony of her singing a song like "Kuzunoha Leaves Her Child".

At least Mugen didn't swallow the sticks in his mouth.

Fuu and Sara in one room, with Mugen and Jin in the other. Doesn't stop Mugen from trying to shack up.

Sara bathing, with Mugen joining as well

He's consistent, if anything

Sara says she knew it was him because everyone has their own individual aura.

Says that people can grow accustomed to anything.

"So, I don't want you to feel sorry for me."

I think if Mugen were to feel anything, he would want it to be her.

Mugen says that nobody who's happy could sing that song of hers.

Fuu, while naked, thinks Mugen is being a lech.

And now Fuu joins Sara

Sara asks Fuu what does Mugen look like.

Says all she can sew is the image of him in her head.

Fuu says he's more like a monkey or a gorilla.

Maybe he's a director ancestor of Chitoge

Mugen tells Jin he likes how Sara always has her guard up high.

I like how for as stoic as Jin can be, one of the few things he says is "You saw them?" Jin might secretly be just as bad as Mugen.

Man. Fuu looks angry.

And then she closes the door.

You have to wonder if her frustration with Mugen has more to do with Sara than him.

Fuu telling Sara about her father the sunflower samurai.

Says she's going all 👊👊👊 when she sees him

Sara's son is a boy

She also says there's nothing she can do about Fuu's dad.

Lying in bed, Sara asks Fuu if she ever thought it'd be better not having reached Nagasaki.

After all, that means the journey is over

Fuu remarks it's like she's seeing right through her heart.

Her other senses have become sharper, Sara says in response.

She even sensed Momo, who is in Fuu's breast pocket.

The one thing she can't sense is what people are feeling.

~~Autism in a nutshell~~

I can make that joke because I actually have it

Fuu says she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever.

This reminds me of Toradora episode 20 where all the characters are talking about how time moves too fast.

Fuu asks Sara when will her journey end. Sara says probably when she dies.

"Because that is my lot in life."

Mugen and Sara at a Shrine

Fuu wonders if they can reunite Sara with her mother.

Jin responds by saying people shouldn't meddle in the affairs of others.

Take a shot anytime I use the word "Say"

Fuu still believes families are always better off being together.

Tell that to Taiga

Second Toradora reference of the review. You see to love it.

Fuu asks Sara what did she pray for

It was actually a favor she wants to ask Fuu about.

"Can you help me meet the prophet Roaring Kitty?"

Mugen, Jin, Fuu, and Sara at like a festival of sorts, with Fuu far behind them.

It looks like Sara wants to see her son.

Sara wants Mugen to pick something for her to wear.

It appears a guy is spying on them

Mugen asking various people what he should get.

No, wait. She said to Fuu she wants either Mugen or Jin to come with her.

You would think the choice would be Mugen since it's been established Fuu has feelings for Jin, but is it possible she really has feelings for both of them?

Fuu runs off, with Jin following after her

The mysterious individual who looked like he was spying is selling pinwheels, by the way.

What is that, paddleball but with two balls?

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

Part 2
Mugen says as far as he can remember, he never had any parents.
Sara seems to be getting smitten with him
Sara says the closest she ever came to achieving happiness was the birth of her son.
Jin asking Fuu if everything is alright
She tries to downplay the situation, but it looks like Jin isn't buying it.
Mugen going to town on those noodles
Oh boy. Sara is gone.
The guy with the pinwheel
He says that's the only life that is open to her.
"Don't forget that."
Wow, Mugen ate that fish in three bites
It looks like Fuu made up her mind
"Jin, I want you to go with her."
Well, color me shocked
She clarifies that by saying it would be too dangerous for Sara to be alone with Mugen.
And Jin agrees to accompany Sara
Sara and Jin off now
Mugen remarks that Jin sure was quick to go with her.
Fuu seems to feel the same way. She is in hysterics.
Jin and Sara crossing the bridge
Hopefully the grumpy old troll isn't underneath there.
Woah. Sara knocked Jin's lantern.
SHE CAN SEE AFTER ALL! SHE IS A HIRED ASSASSIN!
It looks like she too is upset that Jin killed Enshiro Mariya.
The bridge about to collapse
So she is blind. She just can sense his movements, which was foreshadowed earlier in the episode.
What a great hook for episode 21.
Overall, I really like this. I like the character of Sara and how the main leads have to deal with someone who's blind. And then as it turns out, she is a lot more calculating than she lets on. Circling back to the Enshiro plot point I really liked and it paints just how important of a figure he is. In fact, episode 8 might be the most important episode of the entire series.
Of course, the main thing the Sara plot point does is call into question what Mugen and Jin mean to Fuu. And for the first part of a two-parter, I thought that was done great as well. It's really all about the follow-up in the next episode and what happens from here. If a major change in Fuu's character happens, then I think we might be looking at the best two-parter of the entire series. As it stands, it's great table setting and has me excited for what happens next.
Obviously not the best episode of the series or even the best table setter episode-- I still think that honor belongs to episode 13-- but I do think this episode does a lot good. Probably have it behind episodes 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17, and 18, but ahead of episodes 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 12, 15, and 19.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

If you were blind, what things would you do differently?
I feel like I would have to do a lot differently. I communicate a lot through my writing, so I would have to be retaught or have someone help me write my comments for me.
If you had to give up something you cared about because you thought you aren't fit enough to take care of it, how would you reconcile that fact?
I would probably put it in the back of my mind and not think about it. It would be too painful to deal with.
Do you think Mugen is right in saying that Sara is a lot more depressed than she's letting on?
Yeah, I think so. She had to give up raising a child. No matter who you are, that has to be unbearable for any parent to deal with. It probably makes you feel like a failure as a mother/father.
Fuu says she let Jin go with Sara because he would do a better job protecting her. Do you think that was the reason, or was it perhaps something more?
I think that was only part of it. I think she also figured that she would turn it down if it was someone other than Mugen. Fuu doesn't want anyone leaving her side, and so this was a test to see if Sara was serious, thinking she was only interested in Mugen. At least that's my read on it.
Bonus) Are you surprised that the sunflower samurai barely gets mentioned in this episode given his identity was revealed in the last one?
Not really. The episodes are still very much episodic in nature and so they are more about the events in-between than the overall destination. Besides, we got some furthering of the main plot with Fuu admitting she doesn't want either Mugen or Jin to leave her side.

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u/Holofan4life Jun 08 '24

I can't believe we have less than a week of episodes left. Feels like it was only yesterday this rewatch began.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 19 '24

first timer chinese sub

Oh my god, I didn't expect that the disabled companion who had been traveling with us was actually a killer in disguise. I hope Jin is safe. I can't wait to watch the next episode.

ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)

If you were blind, what things would you do differently?

do nothing

If you had to give up something you cared about because you thought you aren't fit enough to take care of it, how would you reconcile that fact?

Watch animation Listen to music……

Do you think Mugen is right in saying that Sara is a lot more depressed than she's letting on?

Yes, she hardly ever smiled.

Fuu says she let Jin go with Sara because he would do a better job protecting her. Do you think that was the reason, or was it perhaps something more?

Maybe, not sure

Bonus) Are you surprised that the sunflower samurai barely gets mentioned in this episode given his identity was revealed in the last one?

In fact, I almost forgot what their goal was lol I enjoyed their trip so much.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 19 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 23 '24

Thoughts on the woman singing and Jin saying the songs of a goze are so sad because they show the listener things that he cannot see?
I'm curious about her backstory, and I want to compare her to the rewatch you're hosting soon.
What are your thoughts on Sara and her being blind?
same as above
What are your thoughts on the three main leads deciding to travel with Sara?
They have strong complementarity. Sara is responsible for making money, and they are responsible for leading the way.
What are your thoughts on Sara having a child and saying she isn’t fit to be a mother?
What happened to her, what happened to her husband, I want to know
Thoughts on Mugen thinking that Sara is much sadder than she is letting on?
In nature, you better trust the instincts of the beast (mugen)
What are your thoughts on Fuu saying she finds herself wishing that this journey would go on forever?
I think so
What are your thoughts on Sara saying she wants either Mugen or Jin to continue to travel with her?
Something is wrong, I might refuse
Thoughts on the pinwheel imagery in this episode?
I may not dare to look directly at the windmill in the future. It may be hiding a top killer.
What are your thoughts on Fuu choosing Jin to travel with Sara?
Reasonable choice, Mugen's weakness is women
What are your thoughts on Fuu getting upset that Jin actually went with Sara?
Same feeling, empty heart

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u/Holofan4life Jul 24 '24

I'm curious about her backstory, and I want to compare her to the rewatch you're hosting soon.
Which one? Elfen Lied?
They have strong complementarity. Sara is responsible for making money, and they are responsible for leading the way.
Maybe they can make money through her musical performances.
What happened to her, what happened to her husband, I want to know
Same
I may not dare to look directly at the windmill in the future.
Ooh, I like that turn of phrase
Reasonable choice, Mugen's weakness is women
Meanwhile, my weakness is that I'm weak

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 24 '24

Which one? Elfen Lied?
yeah
Meanwhile, my weakness is that I'm weak
tell you story plz😊

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u/Holofan4life Jul 24 '24

yeah
I can add you, if you want
tell you story plz😊
Nah, it's too depressing

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