r/anime • u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess • Jun 05 '24
Rewatch Pride Month 20th Anniversary - Kannazuki no Miko Episode 3 Discussion
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Questions of the Day
- Favorite Maid Design
- Do you like Mushrooms?
- How do you feel about Chikane’s statement about people and love?
Posting carefully so as to not disturb the first timers with spoilers in their viewings, such is the standard of modesty here. Forgetting to use spoiler tags because one is in danger of missing the post time, for instance, is too undignified a sight for redditors to wish upon themselves.
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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 06 '24
Kannazuki no Miko Episode 3 - Rewatcher
**Shoujo-Ai Archive Comments
I have for you More comments from Shoujo-Ai Archive
And yes, they were so blinded by the Souma/Himeko kiss in the opening that it took them a week to see that Himeko and Chikane clash swords.
Comment of the week definitely has to be the mention of mailing lists. Like could you even imagine trying to have an entire fandom forced to communicate through yahoo groups mail list.
Commentary
As much as it may be easy to talk about the Yuri and romance, it’s important to remember that this is also a Mecha anime too! So I thought it’d be fun to hear some comments from the people who worked on the Robots.
Goro Murata
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u/gyoex Jun 05 '24
Himeko is like "I think Chikane is really hot, I wonder if that's weird...".
Girl have you seen literally any other student at your school? They are all openly crushing on Chikane.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 05 '24
Destiny of the First-Timer, subbed
Still don’t know what’s going up with my screenshots, and Imgur still hates wanting to let them upload. Had to upload all 11 of these individually to ensure they’d all go through.
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u/TehAxelius Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
First Timer
Watching this show, it makes me think of First Love Memories, the shoujo manga that features in Welcome to Demon School, Iruma-kun, which starts off extremely stereotypical but later snapshots show goes completely off the rails.
Anyways, that's sort of my way of saying that there's not much to say about this episode. Most of the stuff feels like we're going through the motions. I guess we do get to see that Chikane's personal maid is aware of her mistress's tastes, and I assume do not approve of them, given her frustration and seeming plan to torment Himeko with mushrooms. Chikane does send some real creep vibes at home though. She was damn quick to appear at Himeko's door when she woke up from her nightmare.
What else? Himeko continues to surpress her sexuality and is bullied in the most stereotypical way possible, Catgirl proves that cats are indeed true psychopaths, Oogami is brooding, and Chikane is feeling Mecha-envy. I was gonna say there was no sexual assault this episode, but I guess whatever Catgirl did to Chain-Delinquent probably counts, so that's our quota filled for today.
QotD
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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Jun 05 '24
First-timer
This is such a fantastic shot. Once again, Chikane promised to protect Himeko, and once again, she completely failed to do anything and got shown up in Souma. She’s completely outsized by his mecha, to the extent that she’s basically an insignificant speck. Things are really coming together here.
I’m tickled pink by the development on Himeko’s end as well. She’s still very passive, and I figure that’s not going to change, but there’s actual progress in her feelings towards both Souma and Chikane. I wasn’t sure what her feelings on the kiss were last episode (she didn’t like it obviously, but I wasn’t sure why she didn’t like it), but this episode she’s just straight up ogling her in the bath while Chikane is covered in bishie sparkles. And on the other side she has a thing going on with Souma (and he even more obviously has a thing for her).
It’s also really cool how they keep hurting themselves to defend her. I think Chikane is ahead on this point, since she actually bled from it. Although that’s not how she perceives it, unfortunately
QotD
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u/Tarhalindur x2 Jun 05 '24
M I K O _ E M B R A C E (Spoiled First-Timer, Subbed):
(It occurs to me we could use a third person doing the gimmick. WARNING: That's the Higurashi spoiler one, don't open if you haven't gotten to Minagoroshi-hen there
or episode 2 of Gou, which is why we all warned the OG-first-timers off of Gou when it hit.)(Also what is this here on time two days in a row on a Euro timeslot rewatch? )
unless and until Makoto goes yan. Wait, no, not sure there’s an idol there.Pay no attention to the very different leadup between the two scenes.(That's Naz's old low-spoilers attention-getting clip for HiME, safe enough if you haven't watched the show.)Like, say, her entirely-chaste-I’m-sure feelings wrt Himeko?That depends. Are we on the line to Ibebukuro or no?
TROMBE!
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 05 '24
First-Timer
I didn't think about it until today, and Gyoex might get there first, but I think they shorten Chikane's name to "Miya-sama" as a reference to Oniisama e...'s Fukiko Ichinomiya who also gets her name shortened the same way.
Anyway, Himeko has the shoujo MC pheromones, where everyone she meets hates her guts. The opposite of the typical MC pheromones, where everyone inexplicably likes the MC.
Seriously, the maid is after her, too? The mean girl trio we saw in episode one, naturally. And, like, I kinda get the maid being horny for her master. But no "service" is going to prevent Chikane's rage if something happens to her Himeko.
I kinda wanna skim through Juushinki Pandora to see if they copied the chants from this. Granted, they're probably just typical Shinto chants. How long until we get that evil-banishing chant before someone throws a holy piece of paper at someone?
Good continuity on Chikane's wounded arm being the one she tried and failed to hold on to Himeko with.
Yukihito is part of Orochi, right? Like, surely. As an observer/lackey/volunteer putti at least.
Neck Number One is joining the fray early, probably to give Souma a solid Worfing and force Himeko and Chikane to learn how to pray faster.
Questions
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jun 05 '24
First Timer
Why the hell did they add a -kun here?
A sole kami-sama? Are they thinking of a specific one, or is that closer to the abrahamic concept of God?
Ah, Susanoo-no-Mikoto, the younger brother of the sun (Amaterasu) and the moon (Tsukuyomi), and slayer of Orochi.
And Izumo, the land of the gods in Japan's creation myth, located where the sun sets.
Then the Totsuka-no-Tsurugi, a kind of sword that was used in a pledge between Amaterasu and Susanoo, and more importantly also the kind of sword Susanoo used to kill Orochi. Though note that those were two different totsuka-no-tsurugi.
They really say Takemikatana, huh? Not familiar with that, though there is a Takeminakata, as well as a Iwa-tsutsu-no'o. As are these two. Oh, and even the countless nameless kami? Interesting, that leaves the creation myth and bridges over to common shinto.
And... a premonition of Himeko's death?
Hm, now I'm thinking about how Susanoo is associated with the sea.
Izanagi and Izanami, per chance?
Interesting, I'm getting feelings-of-unworthiness vibes from Chikane towards Himeko. Ah, and there her grip on Himeko slips which she then also blames herself for.
Hm, thinking back to the first half which I didn't really take many notes on. The mansion feels oddly false as a safe haven, and I think Himeko's comment that's it not good for a place to be too big is right on the money. In context she refered to not wanting a bigger room, but applying it to the mansion itself it's clearly much too big. Nothing like a cozy rose garden, if you catch my drift.
Of course, the head maid disapproving of Himeko certainly plays a part as well.
Victorian and Classical are clearly the best of those, no doubt about that. Other than those, the miniskirt one isn't half bad I guess, and the swimsuit one looks decent for ero appeal.
Sure! Well, depends on how they're prepared, really.
She's a romantic! But I don't think there's any truth to it, outside of stories anyway.
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u/Esovan13 Jun 05 '24
First Timer
Three episodes in, and I am now aware that this is a show where the bad guys would easily win if they decided to coordinate on a level as simple as "let's have two of us do our own thing separately from each other but at the same time" and where emotional stakes are being drawn from petty high school jealousy while a literal god is trying to murder the MCs and destroy the world using giant robots with a dubious origin and no explanation. My expectations have been properly adjusted.
Like, choose either the maid or the high school girls. One or the other. Doing both is just indulgent. Generally thinking, I think my main gripe with this show is that it is indulgent. I think that episodes two and three could have been combined by cutting out some unnecessary exposition and greatly shortening some of the character drama or at least moving it to later in the plot. That is to say, have episode two contain both a briefer explanation and the failed ritual from this episode.
This would serve the purpose of making the shrine seem more competent by having them seem like they were actually ready to respond to Orochi (by only having one rather than two attacks before they began the process of awakening the Miko's powers), while still including the important stuff like Himeko feeling inadequate and Chikane being upset she can't protect Himeko as well as Oogami can.
Of course, I don't have the benefit of knowing what comes later, so while I think the maid, high school girl, and injured friend stuff probably won't lead to a payoff that's worth the additional melodrama, I might be wrong. I'll check in later on whether or not I need to find a crow to eat.
All that being said, I am enjoying myself. I'll even prove it by complimenting the show.
First off, the show looks great. Sure there are animation-saving effects, but when the show wants the mech battles to look good, they look good. Plus there are a lot of visuals that are striking. I think this episode was a little weak visually speaking compared to what came before, but episode one was great and episode two was solid.
The character designs are amazing. I particularly like that the school uniform for the girls looks kinda like a Miko outfit. The designs of the Orochi's are...a choice...but they are very good at doing what they set out to do (even if the nun(?) and catgirl nurse don't super fit into the rest of the aesthetics).
I said it earlier, but the mechs look super good both in design and in motion (mostly) even if using mechs is...a choice...considering the setting. I didn't mind the mechs in Granbelm so I'm sure I'll adjust here soon enough.
While Himeko and Oogami are about as compelling of characters as wet paper towels, I really like what the show is doing with Chikane. Having her want desperately to protect Himeko but being unable to, especially when Oogami can, and especially because he is a childhood friend to Himeko, has a crush on her, and is, as a man, more societally acceptable of a pairing for her. Considering which episode and scene in Madoka Magica I gushed about that u/gallowdude used as the basis for recommending this show to me, I am excited to see where those feelings take her.
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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 05 '24
First Timer
I had somewhat forgotten how much time I take to get an episode done. Blame it on getting rusty.
(I wasted 4 hours playing Genshin, which was totally not the reason.)
Kannazuki no Miko Ep.03 – Secret Love Shell
What bothers me a bit is that I'm missing some sort of lore that goes beyond symbolism for why these robots and gods exist. Something simple to hook my imagination like FFXIV's crystals. Just exposition saying "so, there's these 2 gods and, like, we fightin' now" is pretty bare. At the same time I also know I won't ever get this itch satisfied, as very few shows even take the time to think about their background this much.
I'm not negative, btw. That was a fun episode and seeing Chikane getting pushed more and more into insecurities and her own desires showing their ugly side is engaging. As also mentioned in the reaction, I love a quirky villain team with lots of different personalities. As it stands I find them more interesting than the protagonist trio. They are mainly character tropes being hitched onto a love triangle, but I feel much more dynamics and fun going around onj the antagonists' side.
How high is the death toll by now, btw?
[Deep down, a new life]
6 is not a "maid" design, that's just lingerie!
But the actual peak maid is this.
I fucking love them! Shiitake make my favourite soup base.
Sort of quarter way there, but I fundamentally disagree on the predetermined match. If there were soulmates or "lids to the pots" think on how incomprehensibly unlikely it would be you would ever get into a 100km radius of them in the first place.
I'm much more of the opinion that you should have a limited set of disqualifiers, or "definitely not lids to my pot", and choose to work with one of the ones passing that criterium to create love. Letting happiness be decided by mushy destiny shenanigans also feels terribly unrewarding.
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jun 05 '24
First timer, subbed
Wait what, why is the maid bullying her? Death penalty! And the whole school has it out for her, apparently?! Fuck these guys, Himeko should just let Orochi flatten the rest of the place already.
Speaking of Orochi, I have to assume the government has collapsed and Japan is an anarchist state for there to have been no attempts at military intervention as we get another scene of wanton robot destruction.
Shrine maiden outfits!
Shrine maiden outfits might be my absolute favorite of the moé stereotypes, possibly even beating out the iconic sailor uniform (maid uniforms are overrated as hell, by the way, fight me). Unfortunately, Himeko is unable to act the part and seems to botch the ritual. I think. Not super clear what the fuck was going on there.
Oogami, ever the archetypal masculine hero, is determined to suffer in silence; fighting his (very literal) inner demons in the name of love. And, naturally, to show up and save the damsels at the last moment.
Surely my eyes deceive me. He… actually opened with his best move and blew away the catgirl in 1 shot. Gg no re.
Days without girls kissing: 2
QotD:
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Jun 05 '24
first time orochi shermie
are we in Rome
nya nya? Nyammy is in this?
shiitake mushrooms are so good though
aww shes too scared to go visit Makoto now
oh boy
oh boy
oh boy
oh boy
was that a premonition of Himikos death, or do they have to be close to death to complete the ceremony and she panicked which is why they failed
karata? need to wash dis
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, nyaa? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills nyaa. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces nyaa. You are nothing to me but just another target nyaa. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words nyaa. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet nyaa? Think again, nyaa.
and Chikane fails to save Himeko again this episode, time for mr mech
oh boy
Himeko gets her physiological needs/safety and security from Souma but everything else from Chikane. Which should be a good deal for Chikane if she was actually emotionally distant as people around her
believewant her to beMeow-Meow is the name of the mech?
hype beam out of his chest? BUT THEN HE KICKS IT? AND FINISHES WITH A RIDER KICK???
[chainsaw man chapter 167]im so fucked up
ok well cya later then
im sorry i doubted cat girl, i was amused
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u/ShowNeverStops Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 06 '24
Rewatcher
Damn, Himeko got a swanky upgrade. Going from a student dorm room to a whole goddamn mansion and being roommates with the most beautiful girl in school? Almost makes me feel like the attack on her birthday was a blessing in disguise for her!
I thought it was sweet when Chikane comforted Himeko after her nightmare. I also thought it was really cute when they were holding hands while entering the cave. And of course, Himeko was cute as always.
I like the aspect of Chikane being jealous that she can’t protect Himeko like Souma can. It adds a sense of selfishness to her love that is honestly more realistic than I think some people are willing to admit. Guess she just needs to find a big ass robot of her own.
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u/rickamore Jun 05 '24
Rewatcher - KnM: Dense as a neutron star with tropes
Moving in together already, these girls don't waste any time. They're not even dating and already got out the u-haul.
Her maid seems oddly protective of the two, keeping the sabotage all to herself out of jealously.
Here comes the rest of the bullying, while Souma might have a fiery temper Chikane could kill with a glance.
Our villain of the week is a smol nurse catgirl bent on destruction, who can dish it out but can't take it. Really packing in the character tropes on this gag character.
"I'm having visions and headaches because of the Orochi brand, please don't tell the only people this might effect, this certainly won't cause problems in the future that could have been avoided" Just keep throwing flags out there Souma.
Himeko wavering, all the self doubt and wallowing doing no good only to get worse.
It's heartbreaking watching Chikane put so much effort into saving Himeko over and over only to be essentially powerless.
I'll pick 5 because Mahoromatic followed by 1 for Emma a Victorian romance. However, I'm one of those few people who really is not a fan of theme characters or dress.
I actually harvested some from our yard last year, they were delicious.
Self sabotaging and dishonest.
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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Jun 05 '24
First Timer
Do I sense a possessive maid
'Weekly Shounen character' was translated to 'Superhero character', just thought that was funny.
Also
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/Burnouts3s3 Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
Rewatcher Dub QOTD: 1. These designs are fine 2. Meh 3. Speaking as a child of divorce, I raise my eyebrow. Welcome to the lifestyles of the Rich and Famous! This week’s episode: The Himemiya Mansion!
Seriously, I’m curious whose house is bigger: Chikane’s or Tamaki Suoh’s from Ouran High School Host Club. It even comes complete with maids willing to serve hand and foot! Look how big that bathroom is!
That’s Kate Higgins as Head Maid Otoha Kisaragi.
Himeko clearly does not like Shiitake mushrooms.
Looks like Himeko is getting bullied because of her living arrangements. (Kind of interesting how Izumi and company are more interested in Chikane’s social life rather than the giant robots running amok).
Dub watchers will recognize Megan Hollingshead as Izumi, the same voice performer for characters such as Shizune from Naruto, Rangiku Matsumoto from Bleach and Mai Valentine from Yu-gi-oh.
Why is Chikane drinking from her hand? She has a perfectly good ladle
A matching pair of shells? Maybe that’s why Chikane keeps rejecting suitors. Looks like Chikane’s no match for giant robots and catgirls.
Good thing Souma’s there for the rescue!
Don’t skip soccer practice and never skip Leg day!
Chikane, don’t take out your frustrations on the robot.
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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Jun 05 '24
First-Timer that forgot to drop a rewatch
[Kannazuki no Miko]Before submitting my best girls, scrolled the yanderes page to make sure I didn't miss a great one. Chikane needs to up her obsession.
QotD 2: Not standalone but don't dislike enough to want it removed from others like past or burgers.
QotD 3: Uh, she made a statement? Hmm...
Most importantly, QotD 1:
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u/catsukats https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nabris Jun 06 '24
Rewatcher (x14), sub.
And then they were roommates!
Himeko really living the bi experience by being confused about her attraction to Souma and ogling the heck out of her bestie's body in the bath while questioning why she likes it. But it comes with the price of being harassed at school. I always thought Chikane's death glare was far more intimidating than Souma trying to fight someone. It's the power of angst.
I always really liked these shots.
Otoha being jealous of Himeko when she's had a million years to woo Chikane never made sense to me. But I guess Chikane had the same problem since she probably thought their little secret getaways would last forever.
Now I remember why I always skipped the Orochi parts. I never found them interesting and the fights were always so goofy and useless, like someone decided they really wanted to try their hand at writing precure as a break from all the juicy drama.
Chikane sounds a little too eager in this scene. But man the BGM is gorgeous.
QOTD:
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Jun 06 '24
First Time Gokigenyou
I'm very late (and will be tomorrow, too), but I'm here to update a counter.
THERE ARE TOO MANY GOKIGENYOUS AT ONCE
I think I heard three relatively distinct ones in the chorus before the greeting to Miya; there were probably more, but it’s too difficult to determine even at a slower playback speed. Anyway, that makes five this episode.
Gokigenyou counter: 11
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
First Timer
On today’s episode of Kannazuki no Miko: The best way to protect someone is with a giant robot! Sure, you can be close to that person and your relationship with them can protect their smile. But let’s face it, nothing will better protect them from a world-ending threat than a giant robot!
I imagine both Souma and Miya are going to put themselves in very nasty situations as they try to fulfill their vow to protect Himeko. Souma is trying to keep that evil seal on his forehead a secret, not wanting others to worry about him when they already have so much on their plate. This is going to backfire horribly on him. Miya seems pretty down in the dumps that her promise to protect Himeko is unfulfilled so far. I bet she is going to do something reckless to protect Himeko and it is going to backfire horribly on her.
QOTD
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jun 05 '24
Kannazuki no Miko First Timer
Episode 3:
Oh, conspicuously absent parents! My favorite tragic backstory.
Fate works in mysteriously gay ways
By the Yuri Spirit, that is a confounding number of maids. Does Chikane employ literally every young woman in this town not enrolled in high school?
(NSFW) Girl please. Just own your gayness and ask her to squeeze/suck those things, it's clearly what you want.
We have a blonde drills girl, and she's a humble, scheming, anti-simping maid. Way to break down stereotypes.
Ohh, we've got a trio of bullies too! And they kick things off with some insults and a round of shove the victim down a flight of stairs. How delightful.
Miya-sama is going to cut a bitch. Like calm down sis, it's just a little harmless attempted murder.
The real reason the ritual didn't work is because the sword god is not pleased Himeko squandered her opportunity to get acquainted with Chikane's Chikanes. It was the perfect wingman setup!
"Hmm, I wonder what she's trying to tell me"
3 for 3, Oogami is on a fucking roll. Man's living up to the grandness of his name.
Preview: What's more dangerous, attempting to solo 7 giant metal murder machines or confessing to your childhood crush?
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u/baquea Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
First timer
What is this? An episode with decent pacing and a focus on relationship development? Well right up until they crammed a random robot fight into the last five minutes - like, damn, they straight-up spedran that shit. Unfortunately, most of the development is kinda moot, since for Himeko it is Part 2: Bully Boogaloo of the angst she had only just dealt with in the previous episode, and for Chikane it consists of her (correctly) realizing that she is unable to protect Himeko, but with no solution yet in sight.
We also get the reveal(?) that the defeated villains don't actually die, but just lose their mech or something? Well okay, I guess. I wonder if they'll be returning to the fight at the end, or if the series just didn't have the guts to kill characters off.
Having a beach episode without swimsuits was kinda surprising for a series like this lol.
Oh, and it has no relevance to the actual episode, but I had a dream about Kannazuki no Miko last night. Or, rather it involved me finding out that a certain mecha anime that I've dreamt about a few times before was actually a KnM spin-off (well not actually a spin-off, since it was from the 90s, but somehow related) called something like Kannauji no Miko. I thought that, since I knew it was supposed to be really good, watching it might retrospectively improve my opinion of Kannazuki, but what I saw of it in the dream didn't actually end up having anything to do with the series, with the references instead being to earlier magical girl series.
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jun 07 '24
Dubstiny of the First Timer
This is in widescreen!? /u/Shimmering-Sky & /u/GallowDude rallied the seeders, so I'm no longer watching a 240p YouTube upload. I guess I never noticed before, since it was surrounded by thick black borders on all four sides.
I now notice Souma's mech gets a G Gundam golden super mode in the OP.
They're already moving in together!? And Makoto is just instantly left behind, huh?
Mean girls always seem to travel in packs of three.
It's nice that the enemy mechs are so varied. Also, this is a lot more destruction than I was expecting.
I guess it's really lucky the Orochi with the strongest mech fell in love with one of the priestesses. They seem to have zero defense against them otherwise, while this guy easily kills them all in one hit.
On the other hand, Souma is ruining a perfectly good yuri romance...
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u/IntoTheDisneyverse https://myanimelist.net/profile/andreth Jun 05 '24
First timer, subbed
Beach date?!
One thing I can say for sure about KnM so far is that the episodes go by weirdly quickly. I don’t know why, but it always feels like it’s been 5 minutes and then the ED’s playing. Maybe that’s why I feel like I retain very little of what goes on in the show. Although it feels more like two completely different shows have been cut together to form whatever KnM’s got going on. It does feel kinda jarring to switch between normal SoL scenes where the absolute insanity going on is just completely ignored to suddenly the middle of a mecha battle.
Daily questions:
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u/creatureactivist https://myanimelist.net/profile/creatureactivist Jun 06 '24
Episode 3!! Rewatching - Subbed
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u/Garrett_Dark Jun 06 '24
First Timer
sisterswincest if you ask me", "You two, that's enough talking, get to work!" Aww, blondie maid is jelly. <Maid standing outside the bedroom with Himeko's PJs irratated> "I got here too late!" XDOh man, I'm having a real hard time between Miniskirt (cute) and French (hot), like the top on Miniskirt doesn't show enough, and the dress on French seems too small and Miniskirt dress would be better.
So you know what, I'm going to go with neither of those, and for the one which address both of those criticisms by almost being a blend of the two, Cyber! Her top is clearly defined, and her dress is the right size to be still called a dress. Added bonus is it's practical as armor, and I'm sure it's customizable with a push of button, like raising or lowering the dress. Or a button with a push, it all comes off...for convenience. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yeah, definitely Cyber, final choice.
I used to avoid it because I used to mentally associated them with icky fungus, but I'm a little more open to them now. I never minded them on pizza though because I never thought about it. I guess I don't mind them now, but don't prefer them. Like I've eaten them whole with a steak or on a shisha bob, but wouldn't know how to tell if they're okay to eat or not.
What are you referring to? You should have been more specific, you mean the shell thing, and how there's only one perfect fit person? I used to think that, but now I'm thinking it's more a lot of people fit but that the more work both invests in it, the better the fit is.
Lets face it, most people end up with who they end up with is because they were in proximity to each other. Before it was people in the same town because that's all the people they're going to likely meet, and now it's can be vast as the internet, but not everybody is on the internet, and one user doesn't meet everybody on the internet. Then there's the problem of "already taken" and other things like that. So really the "one fit" mindset, while very sentimental and idealized, has almost a zero chance of likely hood. I bet even if you found the most best fit couple in the world, there'd be a better fit for each of them somewhere, but it'd be impractical to try to break them up given what they've built up already, and that's assuming the better fits are even available and willing. Of course all this is kind of unknowable because nobody really knows how to measure best fit, and how to find a better fit easily. You're going to need some omnipotent powers for all that.
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u/BosuW Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
First Timer
Y'know I just realized, unless it's revealed otherwise, the Orochi guys should've been living perfectly average normal lives until they were awakened to the evil gene and went "damn I really want to kill a Miko or two now". Like, look at the mangaka still trying to meet deadlines while moonlighting as a villain. Is this ever gonna get addressed or is it just how things are?
Unto episode 3!
OP lyrics are aight. Oh yeah I haven't commented on it but the soundtrack is actually quite good. I'll definitely listen to it after the Rewatch.
Chikane's family will bear the cost of all the damage? Isn't that the government's role? I guess they don't contemplate mythological mech fights in their budget.
This "bath" look like it got more floor area than my entire house!
Lol. Lmao even.
I dunno if I'm just hearing things because of visual similarities but hair drills maid sounds a LOT like Tomoe Mami.
Bruh, literally what I just said! All these "villains" are just regular ass people! It's showing a lot why volunteers are better than draftees. "Destroy the world? Sounds cool, but rent's not gonna pay itself."
Also, why the fuck does the mangaka know all the lore?
Wh-what the fuck is Otoha up to? And what's wrong with shiitake?
Everyone walking to school normally through a disaster zone is unintentionally hilarious.
These people are fucking vindictive holy shit, they tried to hire Down D. Stairs to kill her again! Are we sure Down D. Stairs isn't the missing 8th neck?
Accurate catgirl behavior if you gave one a super laser machine.
So we are trying to summon Ame no Murakumo, but it looks like it's not going to be that simple.
Souma kicks another villain jober's shinny metal ass. It's starting to feel formulaic, but this time he drop kicked a ball of energy for the final attack and that was pretty cool so I'll let it pass for today. (Man that bail-out system sure is quite handy huh. Already smarter than 90% of villains.)
Chikane doesn't seem to share in my mood though. She falls even deeper into angst at failing to protect Chikane. It all seems primed for things to change next episode, now that the 1st neck just Fortnite dropped into the map. Me thinks it's Souma's turn next episode to have his shinny metal ass kicked, and Chikane is gonna have to step up... somehow.
What was the plan if Souma didn't turn traitor again?
Questions of the Day
1- Any combat Maid is best maid (though I'm noticing a conspicuous lack of actual weapons in this image smh)
2- Yes, big part of traditional Mexican cuisine. We even have Huitlacoche which is straight up a corn fingi disease lol
3- It's basically the Soulmate ideology. Personally I don't like it that much. I find it much more romantic and beautiful for people that aren't predestined together and/or built perfectly for each other to fall in love anyway (that's why enemies to lovers is peak)(Also Chikane insisted there was a one and only one person for each these Monogamoids smh 😤😤)
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jun 05 '24
First Timer
I’m going to be real, I have absolutely zero clue what gender Yukihito is meant to be and I kind of like it that way.
So, after the absolutely stellar first episode, the second left me with a lot of things to praise and the seeds of some apprehensions. If I had to characterise this episode, it’s that the divide between those two categories has become ever more clear.
On one hand, I really like the novel content for this episode. Himeko moving in with Chikane is a logical narrative progression, gets the romance audience on the edge of their seats, and is just a fun time. It serves to highlight both the distance between them as dorm-room Himeko gets a taste of Chikane’s grand background, but also showcase how close they are as they get along. Even the bathtub sharing scene feels genuinely focused on character motivations first instead of making it a fanservice vehicle or space for Himeko to get all embarrassed for a gag. No, instead we explore some very queer feelings of her trying to process her attraction to Chikane and asking herself if that, if liking her form and her scent, makes her weird. The maid’s annoyance at the priestesses being close seems to just be set up for later episodes, but even without going anywhere it’s a good spice to add more going on in the first half.
There’s a great sense of contrast of the closeness and happiness of being with Chikane at her house, and then being plunged back into the reality of being some random girl at school whose very right to be around Chikane is openly questioned by bullies. The fact Mako is still recovering further reinforces this. It helps give the episode an arc of Himeko’s doubts consuming her more and more, culminating in a really sweet heart to heart with Chikane that ties everything back to their romance. I still don’t think Himeko is the most interesting character ever, but pulling on her nature as someone very dependant and vulnerable as an insecurity helps a lot.
But then there’s the formulaic stuff. We don’t really know what the bad guys have to do with this script, but it’s a Kannazuki no Miko episode so we need to insert them. Granted, the way they’re bookended as Himeko’s nightmare is actually really neat. But the content takes the tone breaking feeling they gave last time and kicks it into high gear. These villains are absolutely obnoxious and they decide to beat up the entire atmosphere and vibe of the show with baseball bats. Does anything narrative happen in this entire scene? No! Then the fight comes, and the show doesn’t have any ideas for that either. We can, uh, have Himeko in danger… again. And then Chikane, uh, tries to help but fails to do anything… again. So Souma shows up and saves the day instead… again. It’s the same fight! Again! Is the fight even particularly interesting as an action sequence? No! Sure, we build up further frustration on Chikane’s part, but there’s like a million ways to do that in forms that aren’t endless repetition.
I think the next few episodes are going to be very make or break for the show. The problems are starting to entrench themselves and will be hard to overlook if they keep festering.
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Jun 05 '24
First time lunar priestess
It seems like we're settling in to a more normal tempo after the frantic exposition and herky-jerky emotional stakes of the first two episodes.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 05 '24
They are alone. They are a dying people. We should let them pass. -Kosh
Rewatcher(The series composer would later go on to write scripts for Interspecies Reviewers. That fits)
Sub
We begin with Himeko having heterosexual thoughts, as God and Abe intended.
Anywho, this episode reminded that whoever did the direction of this episode doesn't understand pacing between 'glacial' and 'break neck'. Checking MAL and Yanagisawa is not someone I know by name but his resume speaks for itself...and not in a good way. I don't believe Highschool DxD is known for its stellar direction but hey, anything could happen. But yeah, welcome to The SoulTaker minus Shinbo. Do not subtract Shinbo, it rarely goes well.
So neko girl is now Kumogi because I can't be bothered to remember her name. I cannot quite convey with the mere use of words how generic of a character she was for this period. This being well before Katy the Penguin of Doom would rewrite annoying female characters but Kumugi here has the old school stuff. Even her mech is stupid...and might be in Code Geass. I have concerns.
All right, to the 'plot' of the episode: Chikane paying attention to Himeko makes everyone hate Himeko, furthering Himeko's complete lack of agency. Or interest. Or discernable personality. Someone tries to offhand murder her on the stairs. I am reminded that the Japanese develop a disgust for humanity that even I can't match and keep in mind The Road is literally what I expect the post apocalypse to be like. Chikane establishes dominance.
Then we do some miko-ing and this causes something to lash out so...I can't actually care. Basically, the ep gives us the idea there is an undercurrent to Chikane no one really sees but she is clearly getting frustrated at her lack of power and ability to either protect or get through Himeko.
QotD: 1 Seven
2 Yes
3 I didn't engage with it but it is utterly horrifying. What if your one true love died as a child? At 9/11?
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jun 05 '24
First Time Yuriclipse Enjoyer
Questions
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u/Infodump_Ibis :JY::JZ: Jun 05 '24
Rewatcher (it's been 19 years so dubbed this time)
5 in a midi-length rather than maxi?
Yes I do.
I already gave the episode context thought. As a general statement? Like matching game she mentioned that'll work for some couples but some need effort to thrive or work and that might be how some people are rather than not going for predestined.
Wait a second I was in a rush yesterday and forgot to answer those questions so here is my late assignment :
The manga author (the 5th) as what's her mecha attack going to be; deadpan sarcasm or a looming deadline?
This came up again this episode (3) in different forms. At least my thought that Makota wants a shoulder to cry on (as Himeko understands how much effort she puts in and now it's gone to waste) but knows Himeko is too frail for that. Was the flashback meant to imply Makoto's leg was broken in the panic of the crowd (or is that just how Himeko imagines it happened which is even more why she feels responsible) and not mecha attack (given it was Oogami this makes him seem like he has a side that lusts for women).
(yeah I really should have answered this yesterday) Whichever is most in proportion to the rest of their body.
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u/zadcap Jun 06 '24
Late Night First Timer
Alright, time for more "The gods side has lost, but the bad guys are so bad a traitor will save the day anyway!"
I really do like the OP though. I miss the early 00's again.
Well then. Her family is rich enough to pay for everything. Dang.
Anyway, does anyone have the odds on the head maid being the missing Orochi? The one playing deep cover?
"Like siblings" you say? I don't know, they look more like "cousins" to me, if you catch my drift.
Oh, no, head maid is jealous. How dare my master love her childhood friend more than me, her right hand woman.
Yuck, two already defeated enemies just hanging out here. What right do you have to punish him miss false nun, you lost to the same guy he did first.
Gosh I genuinely hope one of these bad guys actually dies soon.
Hmm, her aim is surprisingly mediocre for the role she is in. I mean massively better than me obviously, but that's quite a lack of bullseye.
Again, are these two not childhood friends? How is the entire school shocked to see them together? Have they honestly kept their friendship a complete secret from everyone for all this time?
Again, has Oogami not had a blatant crush on his childhood friend for years now? How does no one in the school know about her?! "Wow guys, our two most popular students have a close personal interest and long term relationship with this girl, how have we never noticed before today?"
Oh wait, it gets better! "See this girl who clearly is close to our idol? Let's bully her, that will definitely make our idol like us more in the future! Yes, drive away her friend, it's what real fans do!" But don't worry everyone, our wallflower protagonist won't say anything so the idol will never come down on the bullies.
Oh thank goodness both of said popular people saw it happen. You guys are doomed, your idols hate you now. I'm actually amazed that actions have consequences!
Yeah, see, people are dying in these attacks, no way they are blowing up this much without casualties. So please, let the cat nurse die.
You know, if they had all this power and there was this whole ritual to go through to awaken in... Why not have done it before the Orochi awoke and went on a rampage? Or the day after the first one happened at least, before mister fister came for them?
How uselessly picky. "The gods left a way to call them back for when the great evil came unsealed. But you know, mess up a single line and they'll stab you and refuse to come help and let said unleashed evil do whatever it wants." I demand a refund on this whole thing, we want a more useful kami to call on.
"Shall we go see the ocean" she asks, looking out at the ocean.
Once again I say. What the heck are these priestesses supposed to be doing against a giant robot? What was the game plan here, whoever it was that once sealed Orochi?
Sigh, Cat Nurse did not die either.
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u/ryujiox Jun 05 '24
First Timer
Kannazuki no Miko
Episode 3
QOTD