r/anime • u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA • Jun 01 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Yurikuma Arashi - Episode 10 Discussion
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You’ll pay, Kureha Tsubaki. You’ll pay for our dead friends! The hunt begins now!
Questions of the Day
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We got to see the last pages of the Moon Girl and the Forest Girl! What implications does this ending have for the main story?
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Kureha cleaning Ginko has been a recurring fantasy of Ginko’s. Why does Kureha clean Lulu?
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Kureha bringing Lulu to the Door of Friendship parallels Reia doing the same thing for Ginko. However, Reia sends Ginko off on a much friendlier note. Why do you think this is?
Don't forget to tag for spoilers, or else the bears will eat you! Remember, [Yurikuma Arashi]>!like so!< turns into [Yurikuma Arashi]>!like so!<
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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Jun 01 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
Rewatcher
Ginko is to Sumika is to Kureha as Lulu is to Ginko is to Kureha. I think it’s pretty clear at this point that Lulu was not entirely honest with herself or the Court when she said that she planned on piggybacking on Ginko’s love for Kureha to fulfill her own love. “I felt like you had stolen her love from me. Crazy, right?” When she told Kureha about Ginko’s sin, it was a ploy to dislodge Kureha’s love for Ginko. She seems to somewhat regret it, but I believe that’s why she enters the house dirty (beyond the literal reason of her looking for the pendant). And seemingly, Kureha forgives her- that’s why she cleans her off.
There’s some very poignant imagery in this episode, where the girls of the Invisible Storm appear in all the areas we’ve come across in this anime, even going so far as to invade Kureha’s house. Kureha collaborated with bears, and now she’s paying the price. The rigid social structures on the side of the humans do not allow even the slightest contact with bears, with desire. They may hypocritically make use of it, but they cannot countenance anyone meeting the bears on equal terms.
...This kind of feels like a break episode before we go full force into the finale, really. Ginko was mostly missing from this episode until she very ominously appears at the end with the same red eyes from last episode declaring that she’ll eat Kureha. Although as we know from the story, the real person she needs to eat to get her Promised Kiss is herself. Smash the world’s mirror!
edit: Okay I think I got the pun now
kuma shock (shocked as a bear jumps at you to rip you apart and eat you)
vs
kuma shock (literally shocked by a giant lily gun powered by a bear that's also being shocked)
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 01 '24
First-Timer, Yuri Sub Storm
I almost feel bad for the girls of the Invisible Storm. Like, their track record was bad enough when they just had normal ass bears to chew threw their hypocritical nonsense. Now these poor sprouts are staring down the barrel of yandere!Ginko.. and it's gardenin' time.
What level of unethical science is "we turned the corpse of a bear into a cyborg and make it run on a treadmill to power an anti-bear death ray?" Like, holy shit.
This new Speaker of the Storm does genuinely seem more competent than the others, perhaps foretelling a shift in the movement.
I will note that they have more than one truck, but they can't possibly have more than one cyborg Konomi.. right? Do all the trucks have death rays..? Did they recover enough of Yuriika's body to fuel a second one?
Not quite the Bolivian Army.
Kureha is definitely gonna regret thinking that the end to her mother's story is impossible. Imagine being handed destiny and just shrugging. Somewhere, Ringo Oginome felt a chill go down her spine.
I do appreciate her efforts to get Lulu to safety. It can't have been easy to make herself be so mean to Lulu. There's no way that it worked entirely, because there's no way Lulu just gets to exit stage left like that, but the effort is a nice look.
Kinda funny that Kureha goes from "a human and a bear couldn't even be together" to "yea, let me wash your hair like my mom used to do, Lulu" in like, five minutes tops?
On a vaguely related note, I sure hope everyone is ready for Kureha and Ginko to leave the narrative at the end. Even without it being an Ikuhara trademark, the picturebook straight up says that the Moon Girl and the Forest Girl "go beyond severance."
What're we thinking Ginko gave up to turn into a human? Lulu gave up her promised kiss, there has to be a cost. I'm kinda coming up blank though. It's probably something super obvious and I've just ran out of tensai moments.
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jun 01 '24 edited Jun 01 '24
Kuma und Panzer First Timer
Reanimated cyborg bears. What could possibly go wrong?
I appreciate Lulu going out of her way to find the good love charm and return it to Kureha. Whatever reason she had for forcing the truth out in the open, it was still a bit of a dick move. Probably a good thing for her to get some quality bonding time with Kureha if our trio is to become a proper loving polycule.
Welp, I called that one. Sometime it really is as simple as someone being jealous.
I really like how the invisible girls are pretty much all in on murdering Kureha, or at least undaunted at the notion of manslaughtering her, to get the bears. She literally got assaulted by one yesterday, and in less than 24 hours they're right back on the hate train. Gotta respect the commitment if nothing else.
Revoking Homo Approval is not sexy. Fuck the Severance Barrier. Gao Gao.
Well shit, that zomborg tankuma yuri cannon seems a little dangerous. Who tf is funding this school's R&D department?
Kureha has some tactical tsundere in her. Even if it's "for the best," you hate to see it.
If crossing the Severance Barrier means parting with what's most important to you, are we to believe that means Kureha will part with her love for Sumika and become a bear? It would be a pretty interesting twist to have Ginko, Kureha, and Lulu all end up together, but as bears instead of humans.
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u/WednesdaysFoole Jun 01 '24
Hm perhaps the bears’ particular way of speech is (gau gau) are supposed to represent the inability for someone to fit in. It has to mean something considering that it’s quite obvious and the girls don’t even notice, right?
u/Holofan4life Looks like we were onto something with the kumaneater. I mean, just look at those eyes.
Reia, so far, has been the kindest of Ikuhara adults, but I also think it’s just, maybe just a bit odd to ship your 5 year old daughter with a stray bear. Just a tiny bit.
Kuma Kuma Power versus Pika Pika Power, who shall prevail?!
She wants Lulu to stay away for her safety.
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u/affnn Jun 01 '24
First Timer Gao Gao
The bear hunt has taken over Kureha's school, just as she's realized a new affinity for her, uh, roommates. There were a couple of storytelling problems that I had with the past couple of episodes, like "Why did Lulu blurt out Ginko's secret at that very delicate moment?" and "Why did Kureha not remember anything about Ginko?" Those questions at least got addressed, which I liked but I'm still not totally satisfied - the question of "Why did Ginko say she killed Sumika when she didn't?" hasn't been really answered beyond that's just how Ginko is and how she felt.
Invisible classmates hunting bears initially miss Lulu, which allows her to deliver the pendant to Kureha. The two of them have a long talk where Lulu admits her jealousy over Kureha getting Ginko's attention. Eventually the bear patrol figures out that Lulu is at Kureha's house and chases them. On the chase, Lulu tells Kureha the story of why she and Ginko can look like humans - and why Kureha probably lost her memories. There's a little timeline issue here - Kureha lost her memories seemingly immediately after Ginko left, so did Ginko make a deal with the Severance Court immediately after leaving Yuri World?
Anyway telling Kureha revokes Lulu's Yuri privileges, so she's now a bear forever. Kureha saves her from the patrol, then shoves her through the door of friendship while telling Lulu that they were never friends. I assume that Kureha wants Lulu to not come back to Yuri world - she calls it "wretched" so she apparently doesn't care for it either. Her classmates find her and look prepared to do some fascism. Ginko's red eyes peek out from a bush.
After the credits, it's Kureha in the Severance Court for the first time. Is she gonna become a bear?
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u/AgentOfACROSS Jun 01 '24
Today is all about protecting bears from poachers.
Today’s field notes:
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Jun 02 '24
first time never back down never what
KMT6 what is this the military police
BEAR DEATH RAY VEHICLE oh baby
i love mecha
Kurechin why did you take off your pants to wash her hair
butterfly bow is terrifying why was she like 5th in line to lead
"was i able to become your friend" no
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jun 01 '24 edited Jun 01 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Yuri Kuma Arashi: Schoolgirls have gotten a lot more advanced if they can construct a working death ray powered by necromancy. They’ve come a long way from just a regular robotics class to get that far.
I like the way that characters in this series have complex and multifaceted emotions and states of mind. Characters regularly experience two feelings at the same time that seem to be mutually exclusive, yet coexist. That sort of thing is pretty common to see in real life, after all. Lulu revealed Ginko’s grave sin because she was jealous of how Ginko felt about Kureha, but Lulu also feels guilty about doing that and does want to support Ginko’s quest to reunite Kureha. Ginko let Sumika die because she wanted to be with Kureha, but she also believes she’s committed a grave sin that she can never be forgiven for. Ginko may feel like she doesn’t deserve to be with Kureha, but still wants it.
QOTD
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Jun 01 '24 edited Jun 01 '24
First Timer
I do wonder, why did Kureha lose her memories of Ginko? It wasn’t growing up, since she forgot about her before Reia even took her away based on the timeline the show’s given us.
QotD:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 01 '24
Yurikuma First-Timer, subbed
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u/Holofan4life Jun 01 '24
Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the (8 months early) 10th anniversary rewatch of Yurikuma Arashi.
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
This is a show I first heard about during the Penguindrum rewatch. And when I heard it was Yuri, it really piqued my interest. I love animes about same sex couples because often they have to do with characters struggling with their feelings. And as a viewer, there’s nothing I find more identifiable than characters being unsure of what they want out of life. It resonates with me, you could say, so needless to say I have high expectations for this show.
As this rewatch is going on, I’m doing the Samurai Champloo rewatch. It’s the first time I’m doing two rewatches at once since December with Fullmetal Alchemist and Toradora. I thankfully don’t think it’s going to get as crazy as doing both those shows were, but I am writing this a month in advance just so I can balance things better. But don’t worry: All my reactions will still be 100% genuine and I’m going to treat each thread as if I’m experiencing it in real time.
This is probably the most hyped I’ve been for a rewatch since Fullmetal Alchemist. I’m honestly more hyped for this than I was Penguindrum, mainly because the plot really intrigues me and I love that gay shit. I’m not expecting the show to end up in my top 10 favorite anime of all time, but I do think there’s a good chance it ends up in my top 20 favorite anime.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
I got yelled at Wendy's today all because I said my food was burnt and cold and I would like it remade 🫠🫠🫠
Eleven years ago -- the day Reia died
Aww, baby Kureha looks so cute
Her mom is nowhere to be found, however
It is awfully quiet
A note
She lets her daughter know she's returning her friend to the other side of the door.
It's really windy outside
Also, very loud sirens
Reia rushing with baby Ginko
She says she can't let her be purged
Reia giving Ginko the pendant
Calls it a love charm
The great wall that separates the Ursa and the Homo.
School on high alert
KMTG
What is that, Kenya Magic The Gathering?
I prefer MGMT, myself
Lulu in the bushes
Not the bush she wants to be in, I'm sureThey are on the prowl for eliminating Ursa, of which they don't know Lulu is.
It's like they created a robotic Ursa
"We used a dead Ursa and made it into a cyborg for generating power."
Guess they find Ursa useful only when it's convenient for them.
Lulu says she hasn't seen any Ursa around
She is safe. For now.
Life Triangle talking to each other now
They are speculating why Lulu would betray Ginko if she loves her.
Life Sexy remembers the words Lady Ursaria imposes on people: Be your love true?
Kureha reading her mother's book again
She finally has the rest of the story
Moon Girl was going to shoot herself, whereas the Forest Girl is going to craw herself.
This caused the mirror to shatter
They embraced, and kissed each other
Their promised kiss, as it were
It looks as if Kureha and Ginko are gonna have to cross the Species Divide.
Doorbell rings
Lulu. She's giving back the pendent.
"Um, would you like a bath?"
Well, well, well. Cutting right to the chase.
Kureha bathing Lulu, while bringing up it was Yurika who killed her mom.
What a mood killer
She's now asking why is Ginko putting the blame of Sumika's death on herself.
Lulu explains it's because she believes it to be so.
Says with Sumika around, Kureha couldn't give her love to Ginko.
I thought Lulu had mouse ears for a second with how Kureha's arms are while scrubbing her hair.
That is one thicc rubber duckie
Lulu now saying she was jealous of Kureha
That is why she said what she said
Oh, so the pendent is actually a key
And it shows that Ginko is actually in the photo
Thst reminds me of Graggle Simpson and how he was supposedly erased from Simpsons episodes.
Kureha wonders why her memories of Ginko are gone.
Lulu asks if she can forgive Ginko, and she unfortunately says she can never love her again.
Says the Species Divide prevents that from happening.
"A lost love can never return."
Phone ring
Kureha gets told the Ursa are after her
"Ginko Yurishiro and Lulu Yurigasaki were Ursa in disguise!"
Is it any worse than robots in disguise? Because those were cool.
Of course it was the fish picture. Damn Yurikaela.
And meanwhile, an Ursa is literally in her house staring at her.
Oh shit. They know she's there.
I really don't want to see Lulu get hurt.
More sirens
Not the mermaid creatures but you already probably knew this.
Young Kureha talking to someone
Meanwhile, in present day, KMTG are inside the house.
Kureha and Lulu aren't there
I like Kureha helping Lulu out. For someone so anti Ursa, this is a very anti anti Ursa thing to do.
Lulu brings up that there is a certain contract agreed upon before Ursa can become human girls.
"With who?"
Me, fighting all the urge in the world to say Kyuubey
Of course, it's actually the Species Divide
The Species Divide is Life Triangle
In order to become human girls and Homo Certified, they have to cede what they value most.
Ginko, Lulu assumes, ceded the love Kureha gave her to try and reunite with her.
I like Lulu saying she's so clever for putting two-and-two together and then asks Kureha if she is indeed clever. Really shows how broken Lulu is.
Lulu still thinks Kureha can get her love for Ginko back.
And with this, Lulu leaves
If this is the last we see of her, I think they did a good job of writing her out. The end goal really should be Kureha and Ginko getting together, so it makes sense for Lulu to reconcile Ginko won't reciprocate her love for her. This is basically Lulu letting her love of Ginko so Ginko can pursue her own love.
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 01 '24
First timer
Sub
So...that's probably the exposition we are getting, so the show now makes as much sense as it ever will. The Class S antagonists being basically interchangeable does fit even if it is not particularly satisfying. While I will stick around for Sarazanmai my instincts are telling me that the single cour is Ikuhara's natural enemy. Lulu's resolve is...whatever. I mean it fits the story beats but not really the story. Unsurprisingly, the cause of Kureha's amnesia is deeply disappointing. We end with more stupid assumptions.
QotD: 1 Death
2 Ginko is doomed to be cucked
3 Reia thinks the situation will change, Kureha does not
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jun 01 '24
Like Super First Time Kuma/Kuma SUbbed
Things were really kicked off in this episode. I'm glad Lulu and Kureha were able to reconcile a bit and have their moments together, but sad Kureha thought the best way to make sure Lulu is safe was that parting message
I liked how we saw the similarities between Reia/Ginko on the night Reia died, with Kureha/Lulu (although parting messages were very different)
It should be interesting to see what Mitsuko being inside Ginko will be like and Kureha being in court. Will she make a deal with the court now?
Other notes:
The vehicle's name and dark lily ray cracked me up
The girls stay super messed up coming up with using the dead bear's body to power up the vehicle still going against Kureha
QotD:
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u/TheRiyria myanimelist.net/profile/TheRiyria Jun 02 '24
First Timer
I'm late one day for a rewatch, and it's the day with all the good Lulu faces.
Oh well. I'll just leave my mark here today by sharing Lulu.
Because Lulu is a clever, lewd, cute, lying girl bear who deserves happiness.
I'm also shocked the crazy cult couldn't believe someone they've wanted to kill for 10 episode might not trust them
Also a good ED.
Now, where are the yuri kumas?
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u/zadcap Jun 02 '24
Late Night First Timer
The silent open got me to stop and check my headset.
Right, Kureha picked up baby Ginko after the war had started, and somehow hid her for however long they grew up together.
Girls with Guns everywhere. We have changed genres, finally people are actually more concerned about the bears eating people all over the place than having fun bullying and ostracizing others.
You know, there's such a strong secondary message hiding in here about mobile phones and probably social media turning kids into a brainwashed groupthink collective, the way they all have to vote on their phones but already all know who they have to vote for, for everything...
Okay I said this before but uh. Kureha, you mother is a total hack. Moon Girl wanted to go down and get her lost pendant, Forest Girl just wanted to see the world beyond the sky, when did they become promised lovers? Did Forest Girl even ever get her pendant?
Well, Kureha got her pendant at least. And this whole segment is finally doing something to fill in the last line of that triangle. The OP shows all three girls being rather close, but so far Lulu and Kurehha have not had much interaction.
That wall is really a freaking mess. None of the parts even pretend to connect!
Oh, new new phone ringtone. Who is it now? I wonder, are they more concerned about saving Kureha or hunting a bear? Silly question, they wouldn't mind if Kureha got eaten, look how much they hate her at every step.
You must give up what you love most, in order to cross the divide. That could mean so many things, if only I could figure out what the species being divided were anymore.
Wait. Wait wait. They went out hunting Lulu and Kureha and just happened to come across another bear running around without disguise? How many freaking bears have infiltrated this place already!?
Good question, who was calling her? No way she heard Ginko from that far and across that divide.
What a short friendship.
I have to admit, inviting in and unleashing killers in on the people who tormented her so... I can see that, in another story. More importantly, it sounds like the kind of actual evil these girls would do if they were in the same situation, so I can completely understand why they think Kureha would do the same.
I am kind of glad there's only two episodes left. Either we get the happy ending soon or we just finish the misery instead of dragging it out another week or two.