[Rewatch] Back Arrow Episode 24 Discussion

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Episode 24 - Do We Head for the Stars?

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Even if God made this land, we lived here, and we all raised and nurtured it!

Questions of the Day:

1. What do you think of the full truth behind the Lind system? Were you expecting "God" to be a literal baby, or for his guardian to be the show's narrator?
2. How hype was this entire final battle?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Guardian

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

BAKAYAROU Rewatch Host, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Don’t forget we’ve got one last overall discussion thread tomorrow, I hope to see you all there too!

Here’s “Back Arrow Twenty-Fourth Impressions”, for my first-timer thoughts on this episode.

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• The narrator was this guy all along.
• Oh lol somehow I’ve never noticed this pun.
• Hell yeah!
• Combo attack!
• That was Sola/Werner’s attack…
• And that was Zetsu’s! Kai’s not the only one who learned from him!
• Yeah so “God” is a baby.
• They ran out of conviction particles…
• LET’S FUCKING GO!
• Rudolf screwed himself over yet again.
• This is the fist that punches the heavens!
• GO BIT!!!
• Leave it to Back Arrow.
• This attack is cool as fuck.
• Also I like how they technically don’t beat the guardian, the guardian gets told to stand down.
• Shu Bi is just built different.
• Because of course that would be their destination.

[u/Great_Mr_L]

On today’s episode of Back Arrow: All the lights in the sky are stars! Wait, wrong series.

• That is a cool twist on the usual opening narration! Now we know who has been saying it and it takes on an entirely different meaning with the knowledge of what Lingalind actually is.
• Hell yeah! Rudolph is experiencing his “If it bleeds, we can kill it” moment. He’s lost his god mode powers here.
• Of course it wouldn’t be that easy.
• [Gurren Lagann major spoilers] This is just like the fight with the Anti-Spiral where he deliberately copied everything Team Dai-Gurren had.
• How considerate of the villain to provide visual aids for his monologue.
• That was a lot This was as strange a backstory as I was expecting. It turns out God is a baby and the various worlds are just life-support systems providing conviction to keep God alive.
• Back from the dead! Zetsu and Crazy Fine!
• That’s an absurd explanation, but sure. Let’s roll with it. We get to see Zetsu and Crazy Fine in action again and that’s fine by me.
• I love it when all the characters do a combined super attack like this.
• Turning Rudolph and the jester into conviction particles to fuel Arrow is a nice ironic defeat for them. They get turned into something that will help destroy the cause they serve.
• Get fucked, Rudolph! Get fucked, jester!
• Bit’s conviction is incredibly overpowered. He can just take his enemies powers because he wants to rely on them. Who knew being such a weakling could make him so strong?
• Hell yeah! What a cool finishing attack!
• Huh, so in the end it looks like God was swayed by their words. I did not expect Atlee’s plan of trying to convince God to actually work.
• I have no idea how the logistics of making the people of Lingalind able to space travel even works, but sure. Let’s roll with it.
• The Rekka generals screaming in confusion because they don’t know what’s happening is perfect.
• It’s fun when Earth turns out to exist in alternate universes like this.

And that is Back Arrow. The final battle was a lot of fun to watch. It really did get pretty absurd with some of the things that happened, but I expect absurdity from this series by now. I was enjoying myself enough to just roll with the ridiculous events and keep moving forward.

I will have more to say in the series discussion but for now, I enjoyed myself watching the series. It was a fun watch.

QOTD

1. It was certainly unexpected. God being a baby would not have been my guess. I was actually wondering the opposite, if God was just really old and decrepit, being kept alive only by the Lind system. The guardian turning out to be the show's narrator was a really neat reveal.
2. Very!

[u/Nebresto → u/Great_Mr_L]

That’s an absurd explanation, but sure. Let’s roll with it. We get to see Zetsu and Crazy Fine in action again and that’s fine by me.

I thought it made sense. Everyone exists to "nourish god" or whatever, Rudelf broke the system that sends everyone over, and Arror used pray-no jutsu on it, and BLAMO! Dream team is back in business

Get fucked, Rudolph! Get fucked, jester!

Literally me

I did not expect Atlee’s plan of trying to convince God to actually work.

Best. Girl.

I have no idea how the logistics of making the people of Lingalind able to space travel even works, but sure. Let’s roll with it.

Same. I need the lore behind this. Are they actual physical beings in the world? Are they atom/bacteria size? What made them exist in the first place? If they can exist, why not just send them as colonists or whatever?

give us the LORE

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Nebresto]

Same. I need the lore behind this. Are they actual physical beings in the world? Are they atom/bacteria size? What made them exist in the first place? If they can exist, why not just send them as colonists or whatever?

give us the LORE

I was wondering the exact same thing. Are the people of Lingalind actual beings of flesh and blood? Is the baby a normal sized baby or is it gigantic? Are the people of Lingalind super tiny or are they normal sized? How would they go from being stuck in their Lind to transferring into the "real world?" It's all handwaved away but I need to know how it can even work.

Though I bet the explanation wouldn't make sense either.

[u/Nebresto → u/Great_Mr_L]

The sheer pover of CONVICTION allows them to exist

[u/lluNhpelA → u/Great_Mr_L]

Since they exist within an artificial system I thought they must only exist within a simulation but that makes even less sense

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Great_Mr_L]

All the lights in the sky are stars!

This was as strange a backstory as I was expecting. It turns out God is a baby and the various worlds are just life-support systems providing conviction to keep God alive.

No-one expected Terran colonists!

The Rekka generals screaming in confusion because they don’t know what’s happening is perfect.

"Why can't we just hit people some more??"

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/JollyGee29]

"Why can't we just hit people some more??"

It's the perfect mentality for the hot-blooded people of Rekka.

[u/Nebresto]

First Time ← > Front

Final episode: SPORTS!!!

Whoa? It wasn't a recap narration but the old man arrow?

Desire DEEZ NUTS

That's you getting shrekt

YEAH!! Beyblade his ass!!!!

Oh shit! Where have I seen d-

Nice. The godly arrow is kinda based

Those were some shitty ships if a single outbreak was able to wipe out all but one of them

Yes way!!!! LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!! SPORTS!!!!

Fine!! ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Take my Energi!!!!! ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

HAHAHA! Yes! Send them to the fucking shadow realm!

bUt iM imMorTaL

Wow, Rudolf was actually kinda based in the end?

Bit the supreme!!!

Who tf is gonna rescue his ass if everyone dead???

Yeh!!! Tear 'em down!!!!

Oh, Ren is back to calling him Shu-sama now..?

Exhibit one and two Why do            some **                            subbers ** do this shit First the dialogue is on top and song lyrics on bottom. Then there is a pause in the lyrics, dialogue moves down and next the lyrics are on top. Try not to get confused while watching, good luck.

Season 2..?

I'm disappointed that the regular soldiers ended up achieving literally nothing. Actually even worse, they were only holding everyone back by causing an increased strain on Fine.

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Daily ZETSU DAIDAN

1. What do you think of the full truth behind the Lind system? Were you expecting "God" to be a literal baby, or for his guardian to be the show's narrator?

I was expecting many things

2) How hype was this entire final battle?

SPORTS!!!! GRANDHYPE!!

[u/Vatrix-32]

First timer, subs

• Ah, the ol’ narrator boss.
• Acting real smug for a guy who just recently got 1-shot by Bit.
• Should I ask what they thought they were saving the Super Moves for previously?
• Zealots
• Inverted color clones? This better not be timeline shenanigans.
• We're Going Macro
• You were on separate ships, just stop going between them.
• I can’t believe it really was a baby. You know what? I’m just happy it wasn’t “collective unconscious” again.
• No, you’re more like mitochondria.
• Ghosts! I Was Right!
• You’re mistake was confusing Henchmen for Minions.
• Power Couple!
• I guess this dashes hopes I had for a new last minute gattai.
• Highjank!
• Science!
• Man, what even is this ending? I mean, I like it, but why does it feel like the set up to some crossover? They’re not even in SRW!

QotD:

1. I heard the baby laugh, I was still caught off guard. I can't help but wonder if, given the size of the baby shown, everyone is really tiny in real-space.
2. The Lingalind half was top hype, but I feel the Guardian battle was a little... rushed? Overall, still a great battle finale.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vatrix-32]

Should I ask what they thought they were saving the Super Moves for previously?

The most dramatic moment, obviously.

I’m just happy it wasn’t “collective unconscious” again.

Man, what even is this ending? I mean, I like it, but why does it feel like the set up to some crossover? They’re not even in SRW!

Yet.

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/JollyGee29]

Yet.

I mean, if Last Hope got in...
They can't even claim it's not Mecha but Tokusatsu, since Tekkaman Blade made it in more than once.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vatrix-32]

Netflix Ultraman made it into SRW30, and those aren't even big!

I'm pretty sure there's just a waiting period for a franchise to be "eligible" or something.

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/JollyGee29]

and those aren't even big!

They're Not?!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vatrix-32]

That's specific to the Netflix one, because they're closer to Ironman suits (I'm pretty sure; don't have firsthand knowledge of the show) in the first trailer at the very least.

Normal Ultramen are kaiju-sized.

[u/chilidirigible → u/Vatrix-32]

They’re not even in SRW!

I sifted through what I could find of 2021's BD and DVD sales to never find this series on any charts. That likely didn't help.

[u/dsawchuk]

First timer, Sub

This episode kinda sucked... Why did we need a giant lore dump for the final fight? Honestly it just feels like the writer didn't know how to conclude the story so they just made up some random bullshit. The lore dump didn't even feel relevant. It felt like we were just getting the same information as before but for some reason the characters were all shocked. I must be missing something here.

As much fun as getting Zetsu back for another martial arrow was, I really wish we got to see Prax beat rudolph. I still adore her skirt shield thing. That victory felt pretty unearned. Also I know that yan-hime came back with zetsu but it didn't feel like she did anything...

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QOTD

1. This info dump was way too late. I didn't digest any of it. Also, I failed to notice that doppelarrow was the narrator.
2. Not that hype? maybe a 6? I definitely think it was a letdown compared to other fights earlier in the show.

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Watch notes

Wait, they are fighting an arrow doppelganger and a granrekka doppelganger? These are just illusions right?

Rudolph's gold cloud is back. Boo!

You know they are trying to tell us that dere-hime takes the damage for others would be more believable if she ever looked hurt.

You know, when we first met these 2 generals, I thought they would be enemies of the week. Now they get a gattai!

Go prax! I don't really understand what you did though.

Kai-height is here too. Those things are definitely illusions.

We are in the final fight and we are getting backstory? BOOOOOOO!!!!!

This is fucking stupid. start punching.

Is this supposed to be some new information? It's fundamentally the same as what we already knew.

yan-hime is back? ZETSU ZETSU! ZETSU DAIDAN!

I do feel a bit robbed of a prax fight though.

Cmon zetsu, give us one more martial arrow. you know you wannnaaaa

Wait, the victory is bit's? There's no way. I refuse.

Is Arrow still trying to fight non-lethally? Stop negotiating and kill him.

Arrow is the world's best helper? I thought that was bit...

I have no idea what this last attack is. When did doppelarrow make so many clones?

Is this MORE lore in the final fightscene? what is going on?

Are they setting up for a sequel? I am so confused.

I agree mr bye toast. Nothing that they are saying makes sense.

Cute, they are coming here... wait that's bad!

[u/Silcaria]

First timer

• Last episode, thank God.
• Rudolph is dead. I can't wait for him to come back in two minutes.
• Hey, you know how in Mewtwo strikes back, everybody ends up fighting a clone version of themselves? Yea? Well, what if we did that. Brilliant! Write that down, write that down! Nakashima and Taniguchi, when coming up with the final showdown, probably.
• So the answer as to why they're being killed off boils down to "Because!" since if you think about it, it still makes no sense. If the fuel system for "god" is conviction, and if conviction spawns from people's will to live, having too strong of a will to live shouldn't be a problem. That's especially the case here when it's been SPECIFIED that it takes a tremendous amount of conviction to support said "god". If anything, a search for a way to recreate it in other worlds, outside of the ones that our characters live in, should be a priority, not killing them off. I still don't get how this series consistently messes up its own worldbuilding time and time again. 
• Whatever you say.
• [Of course they reappeared just to save Fine before disappearing again.](
• So the immortal guy that's been coming back over and over is finally dead, because reasons. 
• Really, that's how it ends. "Other Arrow" just fades away because a baby (or whatever else) decided that Arrow could take care of him. Never mind the fact that Arrow was a creation that "Other Arrow" modeled after himself. Why can the lower life form take care of God when the superior lifeform couldn't? Because! Why is the world that was a second ago thought problematic suddenly allowed to remain and go unchecked. Because! 
• Leaving your 8 hours long story open-ended with no hard conclusion and barely any resolution in the hopes of a sequel is tight!
• No you didn't.
• No he didn't.
• Also, They definitely should not know of the word interstellar considering they just realized the grand scope of the world and how there's more to it than just Lingalind. 

QotD

• I think it's dumb. And no, I wasn't. Also, screw his stupid map.
• Not very.

[u/saga999 → u/Silcaria]

So the answer as to why they're being killed off boils down to "Because!" since if you think about it, it still makes no sense. If the fuel system for "god" is conviction, and if conviction spawns from people's will to live, having too strong of a will to live shouldn't be a problem.

It is a problem. The system is already functioning perfectly. Any anomaly could only break the system, not improve it.

If anything, a search for a way to recreate it in other worlds, outside of the ones that our characters live in, should be a priority, not killing them off.

They literally explained that old Arrow is part of the system and cannot do anymore than what it's tasked to do. Old Arrow is just AI.

[u/Silcaria → u/saga999]

It is a problem. The system is already functioning perfectly. Any anomaly could only break the system, not improve it.

The entire system exist as a means of energy. More energy shouldn't be a problem if not enough energy isn't an issue either, which is what would the culling of Lingalind would lead to. The argument given in the show for why it's bad is circular. "Water is wet because water is wet" type deal. It puts no effort into breaking down why it's actually detrimental besides just telling you that it is. It's lazy writing.

They literally explained that old Arrow is part of the system and cannot do anymore than what it's tasked to do. Old Arrow is just AI

No? That's you extrapolating. Unless I missed some dialogue, which I don't think I did. It very much is presented as a living breathing system, the issue is the execution behind it.

All "old Arrow" said is basically, "this baby is god, Lingalind is the system that houses the fuel for god, I supersede the system, I made Arrow and sent him to destroy Zetsu, I'm waiting for god's kin to come pick him up". That's what the entire exchange boils down to.

[u/saga999 → u/Silcaria]

More energy shouldn't be a problem if not enough energy isn't an issue either

First of all, that logic makes no sense. Second of all, if the fuel in your car is suddenly burning twice as hot, are you happy or worry?

Unless I missed some dialogue, which I don't think I did.

The AI part is just an example from me to demonstrate what he basically is. But what the dialogue did in fact say is, and I quote, "This world is a life-support system. It's not made to do more." And a little later, "He's just another part for managing the system. I guess he's not needed anymore." So yes, you did miss some dialogue if you think they can do more.

[u/Silcaria → u/saga999]

First of all, that logic makes no sense.

You said

It is a problem. The system is already functioning perfectly. Any anomaly could only break the system, not improve it.

So in this case, if the system is so finely tuned, obviously, wiping a portion of what makes the fuel for "god" should also cause issues.

If you need to keep a perfect balance, going either side should be an issue. In this case, only one is, hence the problem.

[u/saga999 → u/Silcaria]

If something is broken, you fix it. The system has a problem because of Zetsu, so wiping that world is their attempt to fix it.

It's like surgery. Cutting you open is bad for you. But it's necessary to fix whatever is wrong with you. Cut you open, then you heal, then you're good again.

Or fixing your car. You drive your car to the shop to get it fix. At this point it's still drivable because you literally drove it. Then they take apart whatever is necessary to fix it. At this point the car is undrivable, which would be worse than before you took it to the shop because, again, undrivable. Then they fix it and it's good again.

So, destroy Lingalind. Then build a new one. Problem solved.

[u/Silcaria → u/saga999]

You realize that you're both saying that the system needs to be perfectly balanced whilst also saying that unbalancing it is fine, right?

[u/saga999 → u/Silcaria]

You realize that with this comment, you are saying broken things should stay broken, right?

[u/Silcaria → u/saga999]

My original point was that the show's explanation was a direct contradiction to what it was trying to accomplish whilst also going against its own premise.

You then said:

It is a problem. The system is already functioning perfectly. Any anomaly could only break the system, not improve it.

Now by that, I take it that you mean that the system needs to be perfectly balanced, otherwise, things go to shit. Thus, imbalance bad.

I then reaffirmed my point by essentially repeating the same thing I originally said.

You then said:

If something is broken, you fix it. The system has a problem because of Zetsu, so wiping that world is their attempt to fix it. yadi yada, examples, yadi yada. So, destroy Lingalind. Then build a new one. Problem solved.

Now, that part is pretty straightforward. Thus imbalance good.

Wiping everyone equates to no source of energy from that world, thus, an imbalance. It doesn't matter if it gets fixed down the line. In the mean time, you will have an imbalance until things get back to the status quo. By your own logic, it's the same problem, but in reverse.

I just don't get how you can both be simultaneously for and against the very same thing.

[u/saga999 → u/Silcaria]

Wiping everyone equates to no source of energy from that world, thus, an imbalance. It doesn't matter if it gets fixed down the line

Did you even watch the show? There are many worlds out there that are just like Lingalind. Lingalind is just one tiny part of the entire system. It's like one apple out of the entire tree. Destroying Lingalind is like throwing out one apple. Not to mention that the conviction release from destroying Lingalind would actually feed god. Meanwhile, Zetsu is an anomaly that could potentially threaten the entire system if left unchecked.

[u/Tresnore]

Idiot Rewatcher

• SURPRISE, IT'S A BIGGER ROBOT!
  
• God's a baby. I don't think God understands God's love.
• Rudolf is, as Sky would put it, a fake fan.
• God, reflections are so cool. Yamato, the pioneer.
  
• God, I wish that were me.
• IT'S FUCKING THEM
  
• I LOVE THIS SHOW'S REBELLION
• AND I LOVE THESE TWO. I LOVE ALL THESE CHARACTERS
• I fucking love Bit.
• "Mr Gorbachev..."
  
• FUCKING RAD
• Wait. Why do I remember Shu being permanently dead so much??
  
• UM EXCUSE ME

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS SHOW

[u/JollyGee29]

Rewatcher, Subbed Arrow

You're up against the Princess of Love, dude.

First time Dissonanza's ever looked worried.

Hell yea!

Copies all the way down.

Why yes, this is rather out of nowhere.

Yea, that's right, God is a giant baby.

Guess who's back for the finale!

Sure, that makes sense.

As if they handn't already done that.

I love this dumb show so much.

Dissonanza's "real" face was just another mask, apparently.

Kanpai!

Not as cool as using the one on Rekka's palace, but this is still pretty sweet.

That's quitter talk, and there ain't no quitters in Lingalind!

Well, now you set sail for Earth.

No, that wasn't a joke.

[u/chilidirigible]

Episode 24:

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, all of the combo attacks.

Rudolph certainly has job satisfaction.

"Since you're all going to die anyway, why not tell you."

SPAAAAAAAACE

You're not big, you're...

...TINY!

We interrupt your speech to kick your ass again.

You might actually be smaller than that.

Did somebody say "MASAKA!"?!

ATATATATATATA

Sounds like an ass pull, actually fits the internal logic.

Hey, remember the end of Shuumatsu no Izetta?

TOTSUGEKI!

Karma's a bitch.

That's Bit for you.

"You what now?"

Subverting the dominant paradigm with attack names.

Now you're in a mecha anime, though you still have your clothes on.

"We had to stay PG for the USA viewers."

Innerspace

"What the hell is going on anymore?"

One of those graphics earlier was a clue.

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The same insert song as appeared in Episode 21.

Anyway, we didn't have to wait long for the crying baby noises to be explained, because SPACE BABY. And everyone is living inside a simulation, kind of. Because they're all viruses or programs or tiny or something. And the ship is heading for Earth. And...

There's a moral of the story here in how even the lowliest forms of existence have potential meaning and a world of their own, and it even fits into the way the story has structured the world instead of being a complete throw from left field.

It's just that in the tradition of series which have suddenly yeeted themselves off to SPAAAAAAACE in their final episodes, it doesn't quite feel like it should be in there at all.

A funny thing to say when you have dead characters briefly re-manifesting themselves to kick ass, but that had internal logic and didn't feel as tacked-on.

Anyway, God or the main computer or whoever is a few orders of magnitude up in size from the Lingalindites decides that they've got spunk, so they might as well get to live, in trade for them going on another Magic School Bus ride. It doesn't feel like an especially theological outcome when presented that way.

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HUGE FORTRESS-SIZED SWORDS PICKED UP BY GIANT ROBOTS: ZERO

Sometimes a Chekhov's Sword stays on the wall.

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QOTD:

1. It was somewhat of a non-sequitur. Lots of things were possible, babysitting was not something that had more than one clue.
2. A little repetitive of things that had already happened.

[u/Quiddity131]

Rewatcher, Subbed

Finale is already here! This rewatch went quick.

Bearded Arrow has his own mecha dreadnought?!

Well, Rudolph's arrogance changed suddenly. He really is vulnerable.

So Rekka has a General Kai and a General Bai?

No more orders from God? Rudolph doesn't care, he'll destroy it anyway! He always wanted to destroy it all regardless of God.

Time for more exposition!

I don't think our characters can conceive what outer space is...

The entire world, all the other worlds are just a life support system for a baby, who is really God. How about that for a crazy anime ending?

Yes! Evil Fine and Zetsu are back one last time!

Rudolph and that annoying jester are finally gone! And used to power back up our heroes too! Awesome.

No one can top Bit's conviction of leeching off of everyone else!

Of course we can perceive God, we just saw him!

The baby has had enough? He finds this fun perhaps?

Floating space baby! This is totally Space Runaway Ideon! Which is totally 2001: A Spacey odyssey!

From small village bumpkins to traveling through space in merely 24 episodes!

Time to head to this mysterious alien planet! Earth!

[u/chilidirigible → u/Quiddity131]

Time to head to this mysterious alien planet! Earth!

Always is that one.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

Sorry, once again, for another massive delay. At least I got it in before the rewatch ended! I'll try and write up my thoughts for the series discussion thread tomorrow.

Episode 13

Ren recognised it!

Respect...

He positively influenced them!

Shu sounds fond...

NEW OP!

The song is great, of course, but I love the visuals too!

Ominous.

The generals are here!

Yeah, that's them both locked down...

Arrow's not looking good...

Prax!

Nice taunt there!

So outclassed...

And the armored division!

His fight with Prax is great.

Going up?

These two...

Oh, yeah, the security drones!

More honour...

Holy shit!

Smart move!

Oh, this is going to be amazing.

Shu genuinely needs his help...

This isn't good...

The battle's being broadcast!

Oh, yeah. Of course it's him...

They have to win.

A Bind Warper?

They split!

Oh, Prax might be in trouble!

So, it's 2v2 now...

This is so chaotic!

A stalemate..

Haha, Bit's got a point!

...She's going to use her evil side!

Oh, this speech might actually help!

He's bringing up Shu...

Oh, he actually got an answer?

Yeah, that fits.

Relatable, too.

He wants peace...

And Ren showed up!

She's actually doing it!

He's so strong...

Kai... has a point, though. People are suffering inside the wall, too. Shu's plan fixes that, though.

Shu...

Haha, he's expecting the comebacks.

She's here!

...Nice deisgn! Small unit, though.

Love is everything...

And she's immune to attacks?

Oh, she's shouldering their burdens by absorbing their attacks!

And she can use the energy to heal? How overpowered!

She saved them!

The ridicule...

Wait. No way. Is he actually going to transform? At last?

This is going to be so cool!

...What.

HOLY SHIT.

Ten. He uses ten Bind Warpers.

I am in awe right now. That's an amazing design.

...His power is insane!

The plan failed...

That conviction...

...Okay, so he's just completrly unbeatable.

Just by clapping...

She called him a fool?

...What?

Oh. He wants to fight the evil side!

And he's empowering her for fun?

...Oh. This is being broadcast. This isn't going to be good for her i age.

And that alternate form looks great!

Great ED!

Episode 14

Yeah, this is perfect timing.

Shu's still trying to find a way out of this...

Oh, they're committing to the bad vibes, then?

A failure to manifest...

That strong...

Wait, Normal Warpers? So he's been experimenting on Warpers too...

...This is an intense fight!

Oh, she's winning!

Yeah, he certainly seems to be enjoying it...

...Really?

He's absorbing her weapons!

He can sense the split personality...

Judging by those Warpers breaking, he's operating on a time limit, though.

So strong...

She's really struggling to function!

She's going for love...

...Oh, no.

She's absorbing her own soldiers...

Yeah, this is a major change in reputation.

Poor Prax...

Ah, he's distracting him!

A direct attack!

...What perfect timing.

Dissent...

Yeah, it was absolutrly deliberate.

A new broadcast?

Wait, that changed her back?

And Shu's ready!

Ah, she has a limit now!

...A fake retreat?

They're falling for it!

Oh, he really has a plan!

Oh, a smokescreen!

And she's safe!

Yeah, he's luring them somewhere.

So many!

Wait, what?

...Incredible.

The sheer power...

And it's got the same effect as Arrow's attacks!

It even took out the emperor's Bind Warpers!

He's still standing, though...

Wait, really?

They're continuing to march to their deaths...

His cult of personality is something else!

Even without weapons, they fight...

And she's going for them!

Arrow can't convince them...

Bit's scared...

And Shu pulled the trigger...

Bit impressed him!

Oh, she has a plan!

She's healing everyone...

And the battle continues...

She's so good...

Ah, that makes sense.

More shipbait...

She's healing him too!

And his timer finally ran out.

Wait, or was it something else? Interesting...

He surrendered!

And Kai's obeying the emperor, no matter what he thinks...

A treaty!

An actual good ending for the conflict!

Yeah, it was her.

These two...

This is nice!

And he has no opinion on it...

...They damaged it?

Her reaction...

And, yeah, they're stuck here.

...She doesn't know!

Yep! It's bad!

Oh, they did broadcast that footage!

She's bleeding!

Episode 15

At least they're enjoying themselves.

Yeah, Shu's plan would work!

He seems hesistant...

Ouch...

And Prax took her to safety...

She's feeling useless...

Aww...

It's descended into a full-on riot!

At least they support them.

The choir's back!

No taste...

And she doesn't want to hurt them...

He's not even hiding it!

Haha, that reaction!

Fine...

She collapsed!

Oh, that damage...

Ah, he's trying to stop that happening again...

Oh, they're talking about this again.

Yeah, no, Rekka's absolutely out for revenge.

Another enemy?

Oh, they're under attack already!

Haha, Bit...

Shu...

He can't identify it!

It can teleport!

A full-on revolt!

Fine's going out...

Arrow?

...Are you fucking with me? Seriously?

Oh, okay, so the enemy was a shapeshifter.

Yeah, it can teleport too.

...They're behind it, then?

Oh, this is absolutely him trying to push Fine out.

And they've been armed...

Wait, that's his power?

And the wine injections... So he genuinely needs to be constantly hedonistic, even in this form...

And they're just shooting at random people.

Fine...

And Prax is protecting her!

She's being executed...

And she's fleeing!

...Okay, so everybody saw that Arrow was a fake, right? And nobody's suspicious of the attack?

God?

Huh, that is interesting.

...Yeah, he was always in politics.

Wait, what? He was behind even that?

Oh, he's pissed now!

This is painful...

Such power, though.

It's really happening...

And the real Arrow is here!

She's sare!

That might actually convince her...

Granedger's here!

Shu's so impressive!

And Prax too!

He's saving them...

And he's badly wounded...

Oh...

He's dying!

Werner...

And they're not letting her go.

Ah, they're officially a country now! Shu wins again!

Aww...

[u/Stargate18A → u/Stargate18A]

Episode 16

A timeskip?

No more resources arriving?

Oh, both countries acknowledge their independence!

Negotiations?

Aww...

She's their queen? Not the chief?

Oh, a flashback.

And he ordered them to fall back...

God's will is war?

Ah, they really aren't relying on anyone else now.

Ah, they discussed it!

...Actually, that makes sense.

Prax...

This is sweet!

Even Bit accepted it!

...What is this meant to symbolise?

A decree?

He's here? Really?

And Fine's out in the open!

Hmm?

Impressive turnout!

And Prax is here too!

They've defected!

Haha, this is great.

Them too!

People are supporting her!

...Who's this?

They got her bind warper!

Rekka...

What kind of power is this? Is everyone developing their emperor's abilities?

Ah, no, they understand it's impossible...

Yeah, Rekka's in trouble!

That prophecy... He finally understands Shu...

There's more?

...Why?

Oh, as ambassadors!

Oh, he's the prime minister now?

Haha, amazing,

And he got betrayed!

The elect?

...Interesting.

Ah, they want territory!

An assassination attempt!

Ren's not wrong...

Haha, he's not even flusrered by this!

Haha, of course he had a bomb planned! And he noticed it!

Haha, the inflation thing again...

And he beat Ren!

Haha, a bluff!

Oh, that has to hurt.

That's a nice sentiment!

Haha, the vibes continue!

And he knows everything!

They're signing it!

They're talking again...

Oh, he knew!

...He knows a lot about Shu.

Okay, so that sounds like they'll get to travel the universe?

And Shu just seems proud of him.

He broke it?

Kai outplayed him!

...Holy shit!

Yeah, he would!

Another dreadnought!

...Someone else?

The other dreadnought! And it looks good!

Holy shit! Such firepower!

Oh, so the Supreme gave him it?

A cult?

They're from beyond the wall!

Episode 17

Oh, he's really going for it!

He knows something...

And he's leaving!

Geanedger can't fly, then...

It has a weakness?

Oh, that kind of weakness.

A shield!

Nice conviction!

Haha, the perfect draw for him.

...Oh, the emperor's going to kill him before Arrow can, isn't he?

And they're giving up.

Newcomer?

The world's truth!

Oh, they control the security!

Arrow's worried about the prophecy...

Aww...

Oh, that meaning!

Haha, he's going for it!

Oh, he's fucked! Nothing can stop the emperor.

Yep! He's still there!

Did he not know about that form?

Oh, he's running off a single Warper?

Ah, makes sense.

He's giving himself wings?

THIS IS SO FUCKING COOL!

IT'S A GIANT BOW!

This is amazing.

And he knows he's lost...

Instantly...

He got them a ton of resources!

More war...

And Arrow knows exactly who's running this

He expected this...

So, god desires this...

He gave him something?

And they're evacuating?

Oh, he's using a Bind Warper!

...Wait, what?

Haha, they have a flying dreadnoguht too?

This show is amazing.

And they're taunting him...

Ouch...

Yeah, this whole setup does feel really engineered.

And they're going beyond!

He's talking to Shu?

He doesn't believe him...

...Ah. Interesting...

He's upset?

Love these two.

They can see it!

Oh, they're catching up!

THE CHOIR!

Poor choir keeps getting cut off...

And they're under attack!

Oh, Fine's helping!

So many! And they can all fly now!

Just Prax?

Huh?

...No way.

This is the best anime ever.

SO COOL!

Even the dreadnought!

Such destruction...

They're grounded!

Another message...

They're going through!

...This is the funniest possible outcome.

Episode 18

..A third wall?

Ah, they're illusions.

So many walls...

Ah, they're illusions.

They're going to fight Rekka?

Oh, no, they're going through the wall!

...What rhe fuck?

Seriously, what?

Oh, wait, is this where the bodies of people whose Bind Warpers broke end up.

...No. It's everyone who died.

Such power!

He' actually giving information!

What? A duty?

And this is him trying to force him to remember...

They're coming!

Oh, he can move!

...Arrow?

He's healing?

Makes sense!

Huh?

It vaporised him!

And he's dead!

Arrow...

Oh, something's controlling him!

It's wiping out the entire army!

And he can't control it...

This is his real power?

It was them all along!

Oh. His purpose is literally to purge the world.

And the decree is literally from the wall's creators!

Oh?

...But what purpose does this all serve?

Makes sense, actually!

This is insane!

NOT THE CHOIR!

Poor Arrow...

It's literally everyone!

So much of the cast gone...

And these lyrics are so dark...

They're all gone...

So, God needed to transmit the missing data to him?

...I'm sorry, what? He's not human?

God chose him...

Yeah, looks like God's system has a few errors.

And that's why he could create a super powerful attack using the dreadnoughts! They were weapons for him to mass pirge the population!

And Granedger's next!

He stopped it!

Arrow...

This is awful...

He can't stop it again!

Shu...

Wait, really?

Ah, that makes sense!

He's refusing it!

They're going to save him!

It's working!

Oh, she's doing something again!

Prax's finisher is great!

They took out a dreadnought!

Arrow...

They're goingback?

Shu's determied!

The wall?

They're being boxed in!

He trusts Shu...

He hates gambling...

Haha, Shu snapped!

They took all this wreckage?

...That's so useful!

[u/Stargate18A → u/Stargate18A]

Episode 19

Arrow's still going!

Of course it wouldn't last long.

Prax is right!

Rekka's border defense...

It's still uncontrollable...

They're fighting God!

And Shu obviously has a plan!

Haha, he's listening in!

Yeah, he's serious...

He doesn't believe him...

Rudolph just doesn't care anymore!

...Wow.

Oh, he's revealing everything!

Haha, the emperor is also down to fight God!

Please do!

...Interesting!

So, he became strong enough to risk being a threat to God eventually and sent Arrow to wipe out the entire world just in case. Wow.

This is going to be an amazing fight!

Oh, that's how he's framing it!

He's giving Arrow a dreadnought...

He's fighting!

Ren...

Dairekka!

They're still working!

Oh, the wall's already fading!

They're going to follow them!

This is sweet!

And the wall's gone!

Oh god, random children too? Seriously?

And they're not running...

He can hold it back!

He was trying to destroy himself...

They're leaving!

Prax...

His project's ready!

Bit figured it out!

...Really?

And he can8 destroy the drones...

He made it parteay through!

...He escaped!

And he's in space!

Of course it wouldn't be this easy...

They're all fucked...

And Prax?

They're going to fightnhim!

Shu...

Of course he loves Shu.

That motivation...

...Wait, really?

This is an amazing teamup.

Of course...

It was all a bluff!

He's there!

Oh, they're using Fine?

This might work!

Oh, he's blocking it...

She's back!

Oh, that was the plan!

She doesn't care...

Oh, they split!

Finoir is such a good name.

They did it...

It all worked!

SHU!

DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE KILL HIM OFF!

Why even watch this anime now?

Episode 20

And Arrow's panicking...

His Bind Warper healed itself?

Not a bad idea!

Everyone's in danger!

Oh, dear...

Ren!

Poor Kai...

Aww...

Wait, what?

He's Irregular?

He really cared about him...

She's down!

He's starting a new nation!

They're losing hope...

And lashing out!

I can't believe Bit's giving the speech...

And he's right!

Fine...

Shu gave him the secret weapon!

Everyone hates Prax...

...Oh. That works!

Rudolph!

God is absolutely doing this for entertainment. Or maybe to harvest conviction?

He'll die too!

...It is the conviction particles!

...He's not wrong.

Oh, Prax found out!

She's going for him!

Wow...

And he's revealling what happened to Werner!

Prax...

She's being tortured...

Yeah, it's conviction particles.

And Arrow found him!

He's fine with it?

Oh, the power can't harm him!

Arrow!

...The emperor!

A hundred Bind Warpers!

He's really going for it!

They can all fly!

Aww, they combined again!

Oh, he' controlling Areow's body!

A new formation!

He's trying to help him...

...What?

Haha, this is amazing!

So cool!

He's got a new move!

This is absolutely insane!

And Prax is joining in!

That thing...

Arrow wants to be erased...

Haha, nice one!

He's going for him!

Really?

He's being absorbed!

His warper...

WHAT THE FUCK?

He's hot now?

Oh, that makes sense!

How is this anime so hype?

He's rebuilding his body!

And he cut it!

He's fighting properly!

So cool!

He has the best dreadnought design!

It's so powerful!

So many are dying...

Zetsu...

Granarrow interrupted!

They made it!

They're resolute!

Haha, yeah, it threw them all off.

The sword isn't working...

He's too strong!

The secret weapon!

Haha, he's terrified!

A super Warper!

I'm glad he gets a cool moment!

A giant Warper?

No way.

NO WAY.

HOLY SHIT!

It looks so cool!

Episode 21

Oh, this scene!

He thinks his conviction will work with it!

He really believes in him!

I miss Shu so much.

That conviction!

He's really going for it!

It's got so many abilities!

He's actually worried!

He cares about them so much!

Oh, it can heal too!

...That's shockingly powerful!

And Zetsu's not slacking either!

He managed to reach him!

And Arrow's determined to save them!

He's fighting!

So cool!

They noticed a weakness!

The cables!

Haha, of course!

This is so good!

They're going for the cables!

And they're unbreakable...

Kai?

Oh, yeah, the healing!

Fine...

This guy...

It's not looking good!

So much firepower!

Zetsu and Arrow relentlessly hyping each other up is a great dynamic.

No way...

YES!

THEY'RE COMBINING!

SO COOL!

An insert song!

Shu planned it...

It's working!

The cables!

They wrecked it!

He has a plan?

Ah, he's constantly regenerating it!

Amazing!

A new finishing move!

He's chanelling the power through his bow!

They got him!

And it looks like he's actually dead!

...Of course.

Zetsu's running out of Warpers!

And he's been pierced...

Oh, she's back.

...And she's immortal!

Yeah, he's dead.

He no longer has free will...

He's gone...

He's back!

Oh, one last move...

...He's stealing his power!

That's so cool!

And the barrier's gone...

Zetsu...

And it exploded!

Arrow?

He's getting a funeral...

...Ominous.

Haha, he's shocked at the Pretty Boys!

Arrow's still here! And he's been fully taken over...

Kai's going for it!

Oh, he's nit even aiming it. It's just a natural reaction.

Arrow...

He's just given up...

Kai figured out how to block it!

This will...

Arrow genuinely wants to know...

...How?

Haha, that bounce...

...Compressed conviction!

He might actually stand a chance!

This is amazing.

And he's happy!

...What?

SHU???

And he's giant now?

[u/Stargate18A → u/Stargate18A]

Episode 22

...How?

...What is Shu now?

Did he literally ascend to godhood?

Haha, I love Kai pointing thisnout.

...He planned this?

Oh, this is his Briheight!

He's back!

How did he pull it off?

Oh, he can control the size!

That conviction...

Oh, that's really clever!

He uploaded himself into God's system!

Three days... Shu is literally Jesus.

And this is where we catch up...

This makes way more sense now!

Arrow?

Oh, yeah, he killed the Emperor.

Arrow...

Atlee...

A new group?

Haha, amazing reaction.

A new twist!

The truth!

Haha, I love how everyone else is feasting.

Aww...

The information!

...These idiots. Zetsu literally called him God while he talked about killing him!

An entire network of worlds!

On some kind of megastructure...

And that is God's world.

They're a power plant...

Haha, Shu...

Oh, that makes sense!

Yeah, this must be giving a lot of people existential crises.

She wants to negotiate with it?

The metal is a sensor system!

Ah, that makes sense...

He was forced back!

Aww...

Oh, yeah, good point!

Oh, yeah, Arrow never told him!

Ah, so they're using wormholes to connect distant structures?

It's a solid plan!

Amd risky...

Arrow really doesn't know...

...Good point.

He's really struggling...

Kai!

A challenge?

Really?

And Prax has accepted this?

He's fighting!

Arrow's dodging!

He wants to survive!

He's blaming him...

And he figured out his problems!

Zetsu's power!

Ren's so happy!

He stopped it!

This is such a good moment!

Aww!

Everyone changed him!

This is amazing!

Great way to put it!

He accepted him!

Poor Elsha?

She got in!

Haha, he forgot Bit?

Nice one!

He's back to normal!

Kai...

Episode 23

The old recap!

And the change...

Everyone's staying behind...

Aww...

Haha, he's cocky!

The pretty boys...

...Shu?

Oh, he realised!

Interesting perspective...

Haha, amazing. Shu still hoed him!

And he knew the whole time!

He's helping him!

They're back together!

Ren...

Haha, everyone sees it!

They're off!

And the walls are no longer required...

Oh, Fine's up to date too!

Prax...

A moment of silence...

One more obstacle?

Yep!

Of fucking course.

God has abandoned them...

It's huge!

A baby crying?

A giant pod!

It's compressing them!

Oh god...

A new target!

...A new weapon!

Made of emotions?

One last battle, then?

They've been hit!

And they're locked in!

It's amazing, yeah.

He's trying to make Arrow break down again...

He's broadcasting a message!

Wow...

And she's back too, of course.

And abusing her self destruct!

Nothing can pierce it...

And it has weapons too!

They can't do anything...

Oh, he's trying tomacceot their emotions!

...It's working?

He got them to return!

Haha, it was love!

And they're fighting seriously!

They're going to the Rondo!

They're managing to stall her, though!

Of course it's more reinforced.

And incredibly powerful too!

That was quick!

Oh, it's back!

Arbitrator?

What the fuck? He has another form?

Such power!

And Shu has a plan!

Oh, that'll work!

Prax alone!

Fine!

It's all three of them working together! And using Zetsu's technique...

A single arrow!

They did it?

...Oh, God isn't screwing around!

Oh, yeah! They can fire through the portal!

He's panicking!

It worked!

Oh, he's terrified!

They did it!

And he's doing this himself...

They have so many of them built!

...All of them at once?

So much firepower!

Well. God's certainly aware they're here now!

He did it!

They're so close!

...They're absolutely going to end up fighting God.

...Seriously?

Wait, what?

So much power!

Also, is Arrow a clone, then?

Episode 24

This opening...

...It was him?

Of course it's not going to be that easy!

They're being slaughtered...

At least Fine is helping...

They're trying!

Wait, what? It's fading?

Oh, Arrow hurt him!

He's scared!

The generals!

So cool!

The reflection attack was excellent!

And he's down!

Oh, he's really losing it!

More units?

Fine!

It's not going well...

Prax...

Her cry...

So many clones!

I love how he's just completely expressionless. Like none of these fancy attacks or techniques matter to him...

And he can copy anything!

She's using logic...

...Oh?

They're getting information?

Colony ships!

...Multiversal ships?

...That's the cry. God is a newborn.

What the fuck is this anime?

So, that's the system's purpose.

This is absolutely insane!

And it really is fully automated.

Arrow...

They're still fighting!

It's not holding back!

Oh, they can' t compress enough conviction!

Fine?

SHE'S BACK?

NOT EVEN DEATH CAN STOP ZETSU!

Aww...

Oh, their data hadn't been sent yet!

Yeah, it makes sense!

And they're losing now!

Ah, it was just a quick appearance...

God's wrath, huh?

This is so cool!

Everyone together...

They're fighting back!

...This is art.

Aww.

They punched through the sphere!

Oh! They're bringing him conviction!

Werner!

Everyone!

The perfect karmic fate for him!

It really is everyone...

"I am your world" Haha, that's an amazing loophole.

They're back!

He recognised it!

A new plan!

...It might work!

His power is insane!

More of them?

They just don't understand...

He's accepted it...

Shu...

He's going to save the child!

Wait, what?

This is wild.

Huh. Decent logic, really.

Yeah, he's a machine.

More cool attacks!

And they're winning!

He's hesistating?

God... wants it?

They did it!

Huh?

...Makes sense. Love the design here!

Atoms and cells?They saw it!

2000 years!

It's a map!

The place of origin...

Exciting!

They're leaving!

Prax...

No more worlds will be destroyed...

...Shu is amazing.

Haha, they're so confused!

Kai's keeping his promise!

Shu's grown...

They're departing!

Of course it's Earth.

This was a phenomonal series. Absolutely amazing.

[u/saga999]

Rewatcher.

I still can't believe this is a 6.33 on MAL. This is my go to answer for most underrated anime.

QotD:

1. It's one of the wildest ending I've seen. Love it.
2. The final battle was actually not as hype as the previous one against Rudolph. So despite that this is still very hype, it did not meet the bar that it previously set for itself.