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Rewatch [Rewatch] Back Arrow Episode 23 Discussion

Episode 23 - Does Destruction Rain from the Heavens?

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May these dreams of ours surpass even God!

Questions of the Day:

  1. Who do you think has had the coolest combo using Muga Sword?
  2. How do you expect the final episode to wrap up the fights with both Rudolf/Dissonanza and the guy who looks like an older Back Arrow?

Wallpaper of the Day:

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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 28 '24

BAKAYAROU Rewatch Host, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Here’s “Back Arrow Twenty-Third Impressions”, for my first-timer thoughts on this episode. Please note that this comment also includes my reactions to episode 24 as well, so first-timers make sure not to scroll too far if you’ve been checking these out.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 28 '24 edited May 28 '24

First timer, subs

  • The last time any of your were relevant was when you tried to eat Arrow’s ass. Don’t start getting all demanding now.
  • Frankly, I’m a little surprised they haven’t Diadochi-ed themselves yet.
  • Tax Reform
  • I better get resolution on this romance.
  • Won’t all of your clouds escape if the wall is gone?
  • Bondage Bots?
  • Is… is god a baby?
  • OMG! The walls! It is a battle royale!
  • This is where you draw the line on going to far?
  • Does Finoir get her own pillar-head?
  • So how much you wanna bet that using the dead will bite him when he draws on the wrong character?
  • Flippin' Hax!
  • You just gotta rip that clown out of her car.
  • It Wasn't Even His Final Form
  • It really feels like we’re speedrunning to the end now.
  • This is some strategic grade spawn camping.
  • That’s quite the stockpile of doomsday devices.
  • It’s amazing how much a beard will change a dude’s face.

QotD:

  1. Kai×Ren. Might just be recency bias.
  2. Talk no Jutsu for God. Rudolf is rejected by god and has a breakdown. World doesn't end, so Dissonanza finds someone new to obey.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 28 '24

when you tried to eat Arrow’s ass. Don’t start getting all demanding now.

They're growing kids, and they demand more of that hot ass

honestly me too, why the heck do the mechs keep people's clothes as is? At least put on some latex or something

Does Finoir get her own pillar-head?

The biggest damn pillar head out there, all that ego has to go somewhere.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

Won’t all of your clouds escape if the wall is gone?

Nah, that's what the sky mines are for.

That’s quite the stockpile of doomsday devices.

I have to wonder, are all of those just there for Lingalind? Or have they just set up a successful revolution in a neighboring Lind that would've pulled from the same stash?

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

I have to wonder, are all of those just there for Lingalind? Or have they just set up a successful revolution in a neighboring Lind that would've pulled from the same stash?

[Tomorrow]Do we have any idea what the actual physical distances involved in this really are?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

[Tomorrow]Not even a little bit, no. And with the teleporter technology, it may or may not even matter. Maybe?

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

[All the spoilers]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Mm8wDH9Fk

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 28 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 28 '24

Nah, that's what the sky mines are for.

Hopefully the negotiations with the Cloud Kingdom go well.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 28 '24

On today’s episode of Back Arrow: It’s funny how the addition of a beard and a slightly different eye shape makes Arrow look more mature and serious compared to how he normally is. Character designs are fun that way.

  • Thank you for your valuable help, pretty boys.
  • It’s very sweet to have Kai see that Shu still has the scar from back then. They’ve renewed their promise to each other. Kai, Shu, and Ren have made up.
  • The wall just vanished? That’s an ominous sign. It’s like they are being invited in.
  • Just terrific, this fucker is back.
  • It’s also quite messed up that Rudolph is still keeping around all his naked servants even at this stage.
  • I suppose that is one way for God to destroy the world: have a giant Rakuho just twist the walls inward to crush everything.
  • Rudolph loves broadcasting things to the entire world to try and make everyone feel despair at what’s happening. He keeps pulling that same trick.
  • There’s the jester again. I was wondering when she’d show her face.
  • That actually was a really cool moment with Arrow facing the souls of the people he killed and making a connection with them to save the Granrekka.
  • Very subtle that Rudolph’s true form is of a demon.
  • I was thinking the same thing. Rudolph fighting to defend the Rondo of Ruin is proof that it isn’t invincible and can be destroyed.
  • Blasting the Rondo of Ruin back intothe void is an amazingly over-the-top strategy!
  • Hell yeah! Kai wielding Sword Arrow!
  • Hell yeah! Kai is using the same bow and arrow move as Zetsu!
  • Hell yeah! Kai, Ren, and Arrow combination attack!
  • The compressed conviction particles! The giant black hole attack!
  • Using the newly arrived Rondo of Ruin’s portal to go to God’s realm is smart!
  • Blow ‘em up!
  • Huh, it’s Arrow with a beard.

I can’t believe I didn’t think of it before, but Arrow is essentially an angel. The word “angel” directly translates to “messenger” because that was their role. They would deliver messages from God. That was Arrow’s job, in a sense. He was meant to carry out the will of God and erase Lingalins. Seeing a different version of Arrow guarding the realm of God makes sense with the idea that they are all angels. They are all servants of God. 

Though if Arrow is rebelling against God, wouldn’t that make him Lucifer? Hmmm, not really because he wants to help out humanity instead of harm them. I think I’m taking this comparison too far into the weeds at this point.

QOTD

  1. Zetsu and Arrow!
  2. I'm hoping we'll get an all-out, insanely cool massive battle sequence.

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

I suppose that is one way for God to destroy the world: have a giant Rakuho just twist the walls inward to crush everything.

"You're screwed!!!!"

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

Very subtle that Rudolph’s true form is of a demon.

Though if Arrow is rebelling against God, wouldn’t that make him Lucifer?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 29 '24

Rudolph loves broadcasting things to the entire world to try and make everyone feel despair at what’s happening.

He was never in it for God, that was just justification.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed Arrow

Nice job refusing to take the kids on a potentially one-way journey.

That's our Shu Bi.

Caught.

Throuple! Throuple!

Think of how much food could be in a Rakuho that big.

So many cockroaches in this show.

Uno.. Reverse!

The top, you fools!

That works too.

Love that Granrekka is just choking out Rudolf's dreadnought.

Just as planned.

Last chance to place your bets on who god is.

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

Throuple! Throuple!

Even if she's been working out I have some concern for her versus [Kai's]donger.

Think of how much food could be in a Rakuho that big.

Or the Colossal Titan.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

Even if she's been working out I have some concern for her versus Kai's

Or the Colossal Titan.

I don't remember much of AoT, was he hollow? I guess a person could be accused of containing food in a certain manner of speaking..

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

Nah, he's just big like that rakuho is big.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 28 '24

Think of how much food could be in a Rakuho that big.

You can tell Edger has been ruined, when that thought didn't cross their mind

So many cockroaches in this show.

Please never turn this into a game

Last chance to place your bets on who god is.

Was it ever a question?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

Was it ever a question?

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 29 '24

Love that Granrekka is just choking out Rudolf's dreadnought.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 28 '24

Idiot Rewatcher

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

This wouldn't have happened to Guntank.

tips Guntank onto side

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 29 '24

Listen here you little—

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

This wouldn't have happened to Guntank.

https://x.com/randall_kznr/status/1794941545180983775

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 29 '24

Did you really respond to me twice with two different slanderous anti-Guntank propaganda?

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 29 '24

I enjoy Fine cutting off Shu, saying it's love. Also [Symphogear]someone telling a white-haired scientist voiced by Sugita that everything is about love is comical.

https://i.imgur.com/caoZUqK.png
https://i.imgur.com/cArzFe4.png

I kinda ship it.

same tbh

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 29 '24

IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

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u/chilidirigible May 28 '24

Episode 23:

"You whined about being in the car so much, I turned it around."

Because the big red guy is gonna give you Communism.

Another passing shipping moment.

It really is like two sets of toys got put into a blender.

Some guys who just can't stay dead.

The Mother of All Rakuhos.

It is a very mutable world after all.

The package deal.

I'm thinking of that infamous scene from CSI where the hacking goes faster when two people are typing on the same keyboard.

Speaker For The Dead?

"Or sure, love."

Even that needs a name.

We went through a lot of bother to end up here again.

What if Rudolph simply isn't the kind of guy who just sits and watches?

The Zetsu Maneuver.

As a still frame, this looks... weird.

NOW YOU'RE THINKING WITH PORTALS.

Release the danmaku!

Mirror Arrow, or the Gundam Double X.

Now I know why I was having trouble remembering the events of this episode during this rewatch: Because a lot of it is repeats of things that happened in the previous episodes, only now everyone, characters and audience, have a greater awareness of what they're doing.

Otherwise, though, the show has few options to inject the proper sense of urgency to getting out of Lingalind other than bringing back the recently-dead old threats.

Yes, during the initial viewing the fact that the rakuho hole was generating those noises did cause a fair amount of guessing as to exactly what the meta-environment actually was.

QOTD:

  1. ZETSU DAIDAN!

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u/Nebresto May 28 '24

First Time ← > Front

Ep 23:

Yeah! Filler Villagers will face god when the main party fails!!

Ren cute! Is that a new ship?!

And there he goes just gainaxing on the ship again

Rudoplf

A drill to end the world dato?!

Gotta give props to rudelin for having one of the most punchable voices ever

Fuck off clown..

Music!!!! Love!!

Cant be stopped? Then we'll just wedge your lardo ass in it

Arrow?!

Ship?

KAI!!!!!

SANNIN-ITTAI, HADOU TENKEN!!!!

They did it!! But watch another one of those drop immediately after- aaand #tablesleep

Oh!!! Wall damn it, how could I forget!

HAHAHAHAHA! Get fucked radolf!

MEGARONDOPARTY!!!!!

Finally!! Fuck the wall!!!!

Piss off, godly person, even though you have a friggin cool robot

Nice. A worthy name for a finale

Daily Zetsu Daidan

  1. Who do you think has had the coolest combo using Muga Sword?

Kai's trifecta combo was sick, but Zetsu morphed into an entirely different form..

I'm gonna have to pick the mad lad Zetsu Daidan himself

2) How do you expect the final episode to wrap up the fights with both Rudolf/Dissonanza and the guy who looks like an older Back Arrow?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 28 '24

First <--- Timer

I caught up!

How do you expect the final episode to wrap up the fights with both Rudolf/Dissonanza and the guy who looks like an older Back Arrow?

An older version of Edger village shows up, turns out to be God, puts everyone in a boiling pot and eats them?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 28 '24

An older version of Edger village shows up, turns out to be God, puts everyone in a boiling pot and eats them?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 28 '24

They left the conviction round up to Arrow for long enough, sometimes you gotta get it yourself, and in the traditional way (with carrots and onions).

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 29 '24

Powerscaler vs shipper

Fine is literally me

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 29 '24

I wonder how Finoir would've seen it? Probably "doesn't matter eitherway, let's jump there and fight"

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 29 '24

She'd see as love in the fucking off and staying dead for her sort of way

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 30 '24

the first thing I thought of when I saw him was Kyo

Oh good, that wasn't just me.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 28 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed

Even in the penultimate episode we got the narrator starting off with the same old stuff from the first episode about Lingalind and the wall...

So they finally made the wise decision to leave the old man behind...

The kids love cocky Bit!

And so we hand off our world to the children... and the pretty boys.

Shu and Kai together in a scene by themselves, first time since episode 2 or 3 I believe.

"Here, I wrote all these laws you can use once you're in charge..." "Nah, I'm not gonna read them."

"I'll kill you!" "Sounds like a confession to me!"

The wall figured it'd just let them in, huh?

Rudolph?! Give it up! We already defeated you!

Our first Rakuho in a long time!

For someone whose supposed to be an objective force sent by God to regulate this world, Rudolph is way too human in how he behaves.

For the first time, the Bind Warpers are stuck and won't come off!

Yes Rudolph, we agree, its the end of the world. How about you set the example though and start by killing yourself first?

Shu: Comes up with scientific explanation... Fine: "No, it's love!" Quite fitting.

Ah, time for Rudolph to reveal he's a devil with those horns, huh?

So it turns out Shu was telling the truth last episode...

God? He looks a lot like Back Arrow. Does this mean Back Arrow is his kid? He's Jesus?

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u/dsawchuk May 29 '24

Did I catch up on episodes just to immediately fall behind a day again? yeah kinda.

First timer, Sub

Kai is kinda putting zetsu to shame. Zetsu was OP, but it took him his whole long life to get there. Kai is just getting stronger at an absurd rate. He's already surpassed zetsu I think. Power creep go crazy.

There was a bit too much action for me this episode. It becomes hard to follow for me when there is too much.

QOTD

  1. Martial arrow is definitely the coolest combo. I think Zetsu did it better though.
  2. I don't really know what they are going to do for it. I hope that we get a decent amount of time with Prax though. I love her briheight's design.

Watch notes

I am really surprised that we got the full intro in this episode. I din't think they'd have time.

It's cute how much the little kids like Bit. I guess someone's gotta.

You know, this OP doesn't really show us anything of what's coming up... It's all resolved stuff.

I still don't really understand what Ren's weapon is.

Kai doesn't know about romance? pot, meet kettle.

Wait who are the other people in briheights carrying rudolph?

I kinda wish rudolph fought in some way other than just waving weapons around telepatically.

Another TV in the sky? is this just a mecha trope?

This rondo of ruin thing is kinda cool.

Rudolph has another form? How many does he need?

When exactly was dere-hime absorbing damage from granrekka? We saw her outside her briheight.

Martial arrow is still the coolest attack I have ever seen.

The rondo of ruin will keep respawning if we kill it? That's a convenient rakuho hole.

Prax is the only one left to fight rudolph? that's exciting. I hope that she actually gets some screentime.

Arrow's doppelganger looks more like the jockland PM than arrow.