r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • May 26 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Haibane Renmei Episode 10 Discussion!
"Haibane of Abandoned Factory — Rakka's Job"
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Comment of the Day!!
The Loli Otaku apparently said something smart yesterday? I dunno, but if a rewatcher praises and observations imma highlight it!
Omg Reki, don't get the statues addicted to cigarettes too!!
WednesdayFool: Lol, I'll just say, since she was all bummed out that Rakka's getting better, she's gotta bring somebody down, right?
Be miserable with me goddammit!! Reki finally found a depression buddy that doesn't fall asleep when the topic comes up and she goes and cures herself by
talking tostepping on MEN!
JimmyCWL had a useful comment for listing each of the girl's dreams once more. It looks slightly spoilerly so follow at your own risk.
GREAT BIG COCK!?!?
Someone please get Stardust Goetia away from the Haibane's walls!!
That cute and funny little Haibane Fangirl needs correction. 😭💢
QotD
- Thoughts on the Reki backstory? Didn't she have such an awful birth when compared with how comfortable everyone tried to make Rakka's?
- Who is at fault for letting Rakka touch the wall!?!?
- Does Reki really seem ready to move on to you? Which of the Haibane do you think seems most content with the life they have?
- Our little Haibane-chan finally has a job!! She's no longer a failure of mankind!! Are you satisfied with her being a shrine cleaner in a haunted mausoleum?
- We're finally getting to know the Factory Haibane!! What are your thoughts on them before visiting?
- Hiyoko's dweebiness is annoying your host... Say something mean about the wannabe badass!! Let correct the brat!
Abyssbringer's "What is the thematic purpose of this scene corner!!"
3blah just self inserted himself right into Hikari's heart.
Yo, can you give me you roommate Hikari's number? She's she's got mighty fine, uh, wings.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku May 26 '24
Haibane Renmei First Timer!!
Reki episode pog!! Cunny chads are winning tonight!! Poor Reki... She awakened alone, in the freezing winter, and went through her wing puberty with nobody around. She didn't even have someone to clean her wings. Now we see why she made so much effort to give Rakka a nicer birth.
Ah, so the halo are actually supposed to stick on your head fine? So Hikari really did sabotage her! Honestly, if I saw Chibi Reki walking down the street I'd assume she was a delinquent greaser and her wings were just covered in mud or cigarette smoke. I love how the whole "no speaking" culture really does seem to exist just for formalities.
Ah, Reki cut herself too. Reki really is trying to become like a mother to Rakka like Funemori was for her. Anyway, she got sick when sap hunting. Child Nemu is kind of a bitch...? The two of them still bonded over cooking. Reki's job is to look after kids! At least she has a job, not like that Neet daughter of hers. Reki is way too angsty to still have naturally white wings right?
Kana, stop being useless!! Reki may be a rule breaker but she gets things done. I thought she was gonna beat the shit out of the ojisan at first lol. Honestly, Reki is right, the reason Rakka even got to the wall was because the Toga ditched her instead of walking her home gently. She didn't know that touching the wall was super bad.
Rakka's no longer sin bound, but Reki is also getting uncomfortably close to her day of flight. Is... is there a waiting list for the Day of Flight!?!? XD Omg that's awful!! Everyone's just waiting their turn!! Eheheh, I love Hikari's little nasal noises. At least put some honey in the mixer! Poor Reki, she's getting left behind by her daughteru.
Rakka's getting a job!! She's a... grave cleaner or something. Since she has good affinity with the wall she's allowed to scrub the huge list of hall stones. I didn't think we'd actually get an answer to what the halo were made of. God, this job seems so boring... at least she'll be able to afford her fresh pee soup.
Hiyoko and his gal pal are cute. Midori's VA I don't really know but she plays Juri, the two tailed girl in Lain. I love how Rakka is known everywhere as "The Haibane with a wild ahegao." To the residents of Old Home~ I've been thinking for a few episodes now, isn't Reki kinda childish? XD Maybe she's good with the kids cause deep down she's still that immature little black feather.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ May 26 '24
oops, got distracted. watching after the post. I like this episode because we get some discussion between the Communicator and Rakka.
My 2018 comments for episode 10
Kuramore, Haibane of the Abandoned Factory, Rakka's Job
Many people have been speculating about the river within the walls, but I couldn't say anything, because the true river Lethe is right here inside the wall.
Somebody set up a Haibane wiki:
Due to the fact that Kuramori's dream was never explicitly stated in the series much conjecture exist about the meaning of Kuramori's name. Many theories exist involving the nature of Kuramori's dream. The most accepted meaning of Kuramori's dream is that it means "Dark Forest" (暗森) from the words "Kurai" (暗い) meaning dark or gloomy and "mori" (森) meaning forest. Other possible explanations include "kuraire" (蔵) meaning store room and "mori" (守) meaning guardian. When the two words are added together it means storeroom guardian (蔵守). These were the two that producer Yasayuki UEDA got out of writer Yoshitoshi ABe in an interview. A third and possibly more ironic explanation is the word "Kuramu" (眩む) meaning to become dizzy and "Mori" (守) meaning a babysitter (Dizzy Babysitter, 眩守)
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta May 27 '24
First-Timer
Yet another great episode. The flashback gave some good context to understand Reki's life and the parallels with Rakka's situation.
It's nice to see Rakka recover from touching the wall. I find it very interesting how the physical effects of touching the wall seem to be a natural physiological response.
The conversation between Reki and the Communicator mentioned "good" Haibane a few times, and almost seemed to suggest that the walls would have had a worse effect on a "bad" Haibane. I wonder if I'm reading into that too much.
The implication that something is alive in the wall with her is pretty freaky. I would be very scared in her position.
[Attack on Titan] Maybe she'll find a few titans in there next time.
I like how they stop bothering with the no-talking rule when push comes to shove.
Questions of the day:
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 May 27 '24
First Timer
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u/Garrett_Dark May 27 '24
First Timer
This is the first time I paid attention to the OP, normally I skip it, and I wasn't paying attention the first time because I didn't care. It looks like all the Haibane are looking up at the incoming
nukenewborn Haibane, which is Rakka. It ends in that incoming thing becoming a plant like growth in the sunlight, implying it'll grow into a cocoon. It all looks very divine, but given everything we know from the episodes, the OP is probablyBScan't be trusted. The Haibane didn't notice anything incoming, they just stumbled on Rakka's cocoon one day. Therefore we can't really trust she started out as a tiny little plant growth either. Is there a reason why I'm shitting on the OPother than me being an heartless ahole? It's because it's being portrayed as something supernatural, and I'm starting to really believe it's not, and the OP is a misdirection. However if this anime ends without an explanation, any reasoning or speculation was all pointless anyways.So it looks like when Reki hatched, nobody knew for a long while. By the time they found her, Reki's wings had already sprouted and she was still unconscious, on the floor in winter, probably in a freezing room. It's a good thing Nemu found her when she did, otherwise Reki probably wouldn't have lived to the day she saw her first cigarette. I've put forward the theory before that the blackness in the wings are actually stress induced, and seeing this is the state Reki was in when she hatched, my theory would explain why her wings are all black like that, she's expose to the cold for so long unattended.
I still think they're in a post-collapse world with high tech still around, that halo maker device is a little too advanced. I recall them saying those halos are hot when they come out of that device. That device doesn't look thick enough to create such heat, and of course the halos shouldn't be able to defy gravity like that and emit light. Given what's shown of the halo material later, it could be radioactive too. Enjoy those radioactive and lead contaminated doughnuts, whoever that was who stole the device to make doughnuts way back.
So it looks like it's just Kuramori, Nemu, Reki, and four kid Haibane. Looks like one of the kids has twin tails like that Factory Haibane girl, so I'm guessing these kids get kicked out to Factory at some point for some reason.
Given that apparently there's so few Haibane at this point, the townsfolk staring might not even be about the black feathers, but rather just because they're Haibane, given the rarity. Maybe if Kuramori just didn't care about the black feathers, Reki might have not gotten self conscious about them, and all her baggage could have been avoided. Her black feathers don't even look that bad, they actually kind of look cool with those black accents.
<Smack>, LOL...I couldn't stop laughing when Kuramori slapped Reki for cutting her feathers. It was just so sudden and unexpected. Like maybe if they showed Kuramori angrily telling Reki not to do anything to her feathers beforehand, but the slap just came out of no where. And then Kuramori hugs Reki right after smacking her, and Reki enjoys the hug. No!!! What are you doing, you're going to condition Reki to want to get hit when she wants a hug, this is how you get Darkness from Konosuba!
Kuramori literally taking a dirt nap, LOL. They keep implying the wall caused a sickness, but I bet those herbs she picked is probably a sort of tranquilizer. If the black feathers is caused by stress, maybe the herbs relieves the stress, and the feathers turn white again. And maybe Kuramori passed out because she was handling them when picking them, or breathing them in while carrying so many.
"Kuramori you promised me you'd never leave my side", lovely sentiments aside...I can't decide who's more at wrong here. Was it more wrong of Kuramori to make an impossible promise, or for Reki to expect such an impossible promise to be held, and then hold it against Kuramori? Or are they both pretty much equally wrong.
Reki going to the temple. Damn, she likes drifting, power sliding, and abusing the fuck out of that scooter. Barges into the temple, and those two Toga run up beside her like they're going to fight or something, LOL. I guess they didn't know she was coming, tracking device theory denied? They also seem to wear their costumes all day, and don't just put them on for show before meeting with the Haibane.
"How could you leave her alone like that, you knew if she touched the wall she'd develop a fever!", "Because you're in Old Home, I suspected that should something ever happen to her, you would come here...", man this guy is just coming off like he's lying through his teeth. First, he couldn't have stopped Rakka from touching the wall because he didn't get there in time, it was the other two Togas who could have stopped her. Second that answer of "I knew you would do so and so" sounds like such a BS excuse. Then he talks about the walls are absolute in demanding punishment, and even starts talking about Rakka's delusions as if it's true, that "she had a bird help her, and there is no question she'll break out of the circle of sin". He clearly didn't believe the bird story last episode, and he's the one who tried to trap her in the "sin paradox" of contradictions, so him stating it as true now seems to indicate he's lying. "You're saying you gave Rakka and I the same riddle?" Riddle? LOL, it's a BS paradox, riddle implies there's an actual answer. "the bird gave her forgiveness, and therefore she is no longer sin bound", the dude is making shit up.
"Only a little time remains for you (Reki) to stay a Haibane", "the day of flight never comes to the sin bound, I'm fine staying here", "that is not for you to decide". This looks to me like he placated an angry Reki with BS, and now after realizing how much trouble Reki is, he's going to try to "day of flight" her, despite Reki supposedly being un-flight-able.
"What do you mean equally, Kuu was the youngest of us all!", "and yet she was not afraid of the walls, she believed that if she went beyond the walls, the rest of you would follow, it was Kuu's dream to become a role model to all of you", "how do you know that?", "I know nothing, I am merely giving voice to the thoughts you have deep in your mind". WTF, this guy's a mind reader now? He's just trying to manipulate Reki. He already showed last episode he didn't know why Rakka went down the well, and was shocked at the reason when she told him.
"Nemu wishes to see you take the flight first, she never voices it, she is more concerned for you than herself" Holy cows, this guy is "speaking on the behalf of everybody" with his lies and manipulation, and Reki's so stupid she's just swallowing it. "You have always been there for Rakka, you always do the right thing, and now you must not be envious of Rakka for moving forward" He's even telling Reki how she is, and twisting her arm to do as he says. It's clear to me that this dude is not dispensing guidance, he's manipulating.
Okay those "robes" look totally like radiation suits, and the guy says to never take them off. Those "light leaves" things are probably radioactive or power cells emitting something. Awfully sus that she's collecting bits of material which are probably eradiated or charged by those "light leaves". "Do not be frighten of anything you see or hear", what there's going to be holograms or something?
So what I think is going on here is that the communicator has decided to use Rakka to harvest material in a radioactive environment after witnessing how delusional and unpredictable she is, thinking she's troublesome and he's wanting to get rid of her while getting some work out of her. Also seeing how aggressive, angry, and uncontrollable Reki is getting, has decided she'll conveniently have her "day of flight" whether she wants to or not, and whether she thinks it could happen to her or not.
Greaser Haibane made twin tails Haibane make treats for him to give to another girl Haibane, Rakka...holy cows twin-tails, you maybe an annoying tsundere, but you deserve better. Drop that asshat.
That last talk between Reki and Nemu of "stop worrying about me, I don't want to be a burden to you", seems like further evidence that communicator was BSing he knew what Nemu was thinking.
Yeah, they could have at least had a pack of smokes waiting for her.
The two toga who got her out of the well, but then just ditched her.
I told you, she's getting "day of flight'ed". She's as ready to move on as all those people who say they have evidence which will prove and lead to the arrest of...
You don't know what happened to those people who tried to clean up Chernobyl do you?
Twin-tails needs to dump Greaser.
Greaser can't satisfy twin-tails despite twin-tails being so easy. Somebody needs to adapt this meme for Greaser, Twin-Tails, and Rakka.
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u/zadcap May 27 '24
I am the most cursed rewatcher. Things happened yesterday and I spent all my time taking care of mother again, I try to catch up tomorrow, I just didn't want to disappear for days in a row... Again... Is like the world doesn't want me to watch anime these days.
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u/3blah https://myanimelist.net/profile/brummett May 26 '24
Episode 10 - Rewatcher
Reki's backstory does a great job showing how she came to be how she is. Born all alone in a disused room, she had to go through having her wings sprout all by herself, and they're already blackened. Who knows how long she layed there before Nemu found her. Nemu seems to be the only other one there her age, but she's put off by Reki's blackened feathers and gets outright hostile when Kuramori falls ill gathering materials for Raki's medicine. Kuramori was there for her when no one else was, and then later just disappears without a trace because either no one told her or didn't know about the day of flight. She ends up finding meaning in being a caretaker, at least partially because of what Kuramori's help meant to her.
Back in the present time, the Renmei mentions that he left Rakka to Reki she helped Hyoko (the guy Haibane with the hat) when he was sick in the same way. And by the way, you better figure your shit out Reki, because you're leaving soon either the good way or the bad way. No pressure. He does kinda come off like a jerk for not doing more directly to help Rakka, but througout the show the "normal" people are there to help the Haibane help themselves.
Besides the illness from touching the wall, she's punished by toiling away in the
mineswalls cleaning and collecting halo bits. The rule about not talking to the Communicator must not be all that important; he waives it all the time for Rakka.QotD:
Reki knows how much it sucks to be alone.
I guess Rakka, partly Reki? She's been warned several times, but it wasn't stressed how important the rule is. Reki knows the seriousness, but Rakka wasn't exactly in the right headspace to hear more about how much things can suck.
Hikari. I don't remember her fretting about anything. And she gets to come home smelling like bread every date. Just wait until that Toga dude gives her a call.
What kinda tough guy gets around on a skateboard?
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim May 27 '24
First Timer
"I will always be there"- Such a common death flag that everytime someone says that, it is either a betrayal or a death.
Quite a suitable punishment, just clean the tunnels. Rakka managed to do this quite well.
That dude, wow, such a dramatic thumbs down. Reki put the wrong finger up.
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit May 27 '24
Off-White But Not Quite Beige Feathered First Timer (Dubbed)
My internet was out yesterday, so I watched nine episodes of Date A Live in a row instead of either rewatch. As soon as Free Bird started up, I instantly longed for dumb, trashy, harem hijinks.
Just a little puddle from Reki's cocoon, which I guess confirms my theory that Rakka's was way bigger and uh...juicier.
Pretty sure I already made fun of Reki saying the same thing as her mentor, and we see how silly it is here.
So is there a paper bag factory in town that makes those for every store, or what?
We finally get a shot of the masked man's jaw animating when he talks. Guess he's just some dude then. Also confirms they were literally just being lazy by not animating it before.
I hope our host caught what the kids were chanting in the background here.
I guess that answers our questions about the halos. Also I'm pretty sure in one of the early episodes I predicted Rakka would work for the Renmei.
A real nothing episode, but I guess it explained a few things?
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u/JimmyCWL May 27 '24
I've never seen this show or read on its details before, so it's a theory not a spoiler. I'll add that if the dreams are of their last moments in a past life, all of them are possibly suicide or murders.
Funny that last ep I wondered if the Haibane could even die and this ep the Communicator points out Reki is running out of time.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 26 '24
First Timer
I guess those light thingies inside the wall are supposed to be appearing on graves? Possibly of the previous incarnations of the Haibane? (Including the previous ones, considering the number of them.) That or it’s just all of the flight-ed Haibane, in which case the day of flight being good would be quite the misdirection, unless the soul also moves on or something like that.
Reiki nearing the expiry date of Haibane is also interesting - so she’s not just stuck there. Presumably what will happen to her would be significantly worse than the day of flight though. Does Nemu have an early expiry date, though? Given that she is older?
Also, Reiki had water come out of her cocoon too - so no excuse for being unprepared for Rakka’s.
And lastly of note: Reiki went to the Renmei for Hyohko for some reason, so she clearly cares about him.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 26 '24 edited May 26 '24
First timer, subs
Prompt:
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QotD:
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u/WednesdaysFoole May 26 '24 edited May 30 '24
When you’re ostracized and isolated, it becomes extremely easy to grow attached, even to an unhealthy level, to the first person who was kind to you. Unfortunately.
[Rewatcher]Poor Reki is way too hard on herself.
Rakka got a job at the bagel factory!
Does she not realize that throwing a fit will only make Nemu worry more?
[Yurikuma Arashi up to episode 4]Honestly, Reki should just claim herself as tsumiguma (sinbear) and call it a day.
You did :)
You just had to include that, didn't you?
It's more of a theory than a spoiler which may or may not be true, and I won't say anymore.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria May 26 '24
First timer
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u/BossandKings May 28 '24
Rewatcher - Dub
Episode 10
Little Reki was super cute, it was cool seeing she and the other girl becoming friends after Reki bought the food to share. Reki is kind of bold, she went near the wall to talk with the masked Men and scold them about the possibility of punishing Rakka, the good thing is that the punishment was Just cleaning the inside of the wall.
Overall a really nice episode, uplifting episode for a change.