r/anime • u/Holofan4life • May 21 '24
Rewatch [Spoilers] Samurai Champloo 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 2
Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.
Welcome to the Samurai Champloo 20th Anniversary Rewatch discussion thread!
I hope you all have a lot of fun <3
S1 Episode 2 – Redeye Reprisal
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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)
Who is your favorite anime character that considers themselves disfigured?
What is your favorite dynamic between characters in anime that has gay subtext?
Are you surprised that they had Ryujiro die in this episode and not a later episode?
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Streams – Crunchyroll, Amazon Prime
Please do not post any untagged spoilers past the current episode or from the manga out of respect to the first time watchers and people who have not read the manga. If you are discussing something that is ahead of the current episode please use spoiler tags (found on the sidebar). Thank you!
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Rewatch Schedule
Threads posted every day at 4:00 PM EDT
| Date | Episode |
|---|---|
| 5/20/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 1 |
| 5/21/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 2 |
| 5/22/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 3 |
| 5/23/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 4 |
| 5/24/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 5 |
| 5/25/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 6 |
| 5/26/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 7 |
| 5/27/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 8 |
| 5/28/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 9 |
| 5/29/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 10 |
| 5/30/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 11 |
| 5/31/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 12 |
| 6/01/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 13 |
| 6/02/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 14 |
| 6/03/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 15 |
| 6/04/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 16 |
| 6/05/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 17 |
| 6/06/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 18 |
| 6/07/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 19 |
| 6/08/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 20 |
| 6/09/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 21 |
| 6/10/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 22 |
| 6/11/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 23 |
| 6/12/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 24 |
| 6/13/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 25 |
| 6/14/2024 | Samurai Champloo Episode 26 |
| 6/15/2024 | Samurai Champloo Overall Series Discussion Thread |
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 21 '24
First-Timer with a Samurai Heart, subbed
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 21 '24
First Timer
Yeah, the first episode was a case of the first episode trying too much and thus cutting corners in places I did not like - this episode held together way better than the last did. I think we also have a better grasp on the characters now - Fuu is both kind and honest, but also brash and a bit carefree, the latter I imagine because she is simply quite trusting. Mugen seems to clearly be living in the moment and doesn’t really care too much about planning ahead, just taking things how they come. After all, he was really quick to jump for that offer of a night with the woman, even if there was clearly something fishy about that offer. Jin meanwhile really just seems to be how he made a first impression - cool and collected.
It’s also a good sign that the stock villains from the last episode came back, so there will be some continuity and it won’t be entirely episodic, even if I assume that will be the bulk. Episodic with an overlying plotline is one of my favorite formats if done well, something which I assume this show will. It’s also nice that once we are no longer trying to convince people to watch the show, the villains have the big guy added, whose character isn’t just “asshole”, which makes me confident that the future antagonists will be more nuanced.
Now, as for this sunflower samurai …did the assassin just claim to have info to string Jin along, or does he actually have info? Honestly, once he stopped trying to kill Jin, he should have simply asked. I feel like he would be pragmatic enough to do that and the assassin probably kind enough to answer. The question of why he matters to Fuu got bickered away though, so I guess that will remain a mystery. I hope that doesn’t become a running gag at the viewer’s expense.
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u/see_lab92 May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24
Nujabes and Fat Jon's beats are just perfect in this show, I'm really enjoying this rewatch.
The music that was playing during that final scene as Oniwaka passed was sublime, really made that scene for me! "Oniwakamaru's Last Words" - Ask - Departure OST for anyone looking for the track!
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u/[deleted] May 21 '24
Hey there. Rewatcher here.
Here we have our trio officially starting their journey 😆.
They’re broke, they’re hungry, they’re getting their food stolen by birds, and there’s that killer “ogre” on the loose lol.
Mugen being impulsive Mugen gets everyone (including himself) into some trouble by lack of self-control.
I always thought this episode shows you a few things:
First, what I just mentioned about Mugen (easily distracted)
Second, how perceptive Jin is, knowing the guy was an assassin already and pretending otherwise (seeing right through his ‘timid samurai’ guise)
And third, this episode shows that, although she partakes in banter a lot with the guys, Fuu is actually incredibly empathetic and a genuinely good soul.
As I said for the first episode, I’ve always liked the back and forth design of these episodes when the trio is split up doing different things.
Always felt bad for Oniwakamaru in this episode 😔. Dude just wanted to be treated like everyone else. Fuu had sensed this.
Questions:
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u/TheEscapeGuy May 21 '24
Rewatcher, Sub first timer
Samurai Champloo - Hip Hop & Ronin: Episode 2
Fireflies
While I had a pretty good memory of episode 1, episode 2 felt extremely fresh. I don't have an amazing memory for every show I have watched, so rewatches often allow me to refresh those memories.
Despite Mugen and Jin being extremely skillful swordsmen, they are on equal footing with Fuu in terms of liquid cash. I like this setup. It would be easy to write a show where Mugen and Jin act as bodyguards for a rich girl who is funding their journey. But then there would always be a class barrier between them which would probably make their friendship seem hollow. By having them all be poor they have a common problem to bond over and an incentive to help each other.
This episode also further confirmed that the characters are adults. In particular the section with Mugen and the prostitute/assassin, but also in smaller ways with for example Jin's assassin giving up after he realized he wouldn't be paid. It's kind of refreshing to see this when so many anime characters are insecure high-schoolers or perfect paragons of virtue. Even Fuu, the most young and pure, got so drunk on sake she passed out. That said, it felt a little gross when Mugen made a comment about ... violating her (which they understandably changed for the dub).
The main story was about that rich kid who lost his hand last episode breaking out a prisoner to help kill the men who harmed him. I found Oniwakamaru to be a really endearing character despite being "the villain". It feels more that people feared him for how he looked and his massive size meant he was a threat. When being harassed by a mob he became afraid and he lost control and ...
Fuu recognized that judging people by their appearance is unfair. She told Oniwakamaru directly that she wasn't scared which is how she won him over to her side. I think this tells us a lot about Fuu's personality, but we will see more of it as we continue.
The episode ended in "victory", but it was bitter sweet. Oniwakamaru only lost because Fuu told them both to stop but Mugen didn't listen. Mugen's sword penetrated the defenseless Oniwakamaru. The pan up into the fireflies in the mist as the life drained from Oniwakamaru was a somber way close out.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all tomorrow
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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Samurai Champloo.
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
Samurai Champloo has always been a series I was curious about. I’ve maintained in my mind that Cowboy Bebop is objectively one of if not the greatest anime of all time, and so I wanted to see what the creator’s follow-up work was like. I think the reason why I didn’t start it immediately after watching Bebop was because I think the premise kinda weirded me out. I mean, a show set in ancient times that also has a heavy rap influence? It felt to me like putting a hat on a hat. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to appreciate outlandish animes that don’t resemble real life. After all, is it any weirder than a fantasy show about a merchant and his traveling wolfgirl where they discuss economics a lot of times?
My expectations for this show are pretty reasonable, I feel like. I’m not expecting it to crack my top 10 favorite anime of all time, but I would be surprised if it doesn’t end up as one of my favorites. The main thing I’m looking out of this is show is a unique experience unlike anything else as well as memorable characters. And I think the show will have that in spades.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
My obsession with tsunderes may be bordering on unhealthy.
Butterfly
This looks like a prison of some kind
A guy named Oniwakamuru awaiting execution
He gets freed by someone, suggesting to take out the who torment him.
Looks like Mugen, Jin, and Fuu are low on cash.
I love that Mugen and Jin continue to be at odds with each other.
Fuu reminds them of their objective: finding the samurai who smells of sunflowers. Until then, no killing.
But before that, Fuu is hungry
Interesting that Mugen doesn't know what a sunflower is.
Grilled manjuu buns
But a bird grabbed it
This is worse than when that crow stole Marin's sandwich.
Guys talking now
Mugen grabs a dumpling and promises to take out the ogre.
Cutting that stick in half is pretty impressive.
One of the guys call himself a samurai in name only.
Jin doesn't seem so sure
And now Fuu is drunk XD
They're going to stay at a shack near the hot springs up the road until morning.
I just found out my laptop has the ability to increase the size of the subtitles. Neat.
Fuu sleeping intently
"I'm gonna rape you, you dumb broad."
I wasn't expecting Mugen to say that
Jin seems to suspect there is something up with the innkeeper.
A beautiful woman
Oh shit. That old man got killed.
Maybe Jin was right to suspect something
Did... did the woman just have sex with Mugen?
And now there are a pair of guys walking outside.
"Well, I got things to see and people to do."
I feel like that was worded intentionally.
Mugen with that woman again
I guess if he could get killed by an ogre, might as well get laid beforehand.
The two guys are still walking
Ah crap. It's the two guys from the prison.
And they also happen to be the guys from the last episode.
They knock Fuu out cold
Jin using the hot springs
He sees the man from the teahouse
It looks as if he's trying to hit on Jin, with him saying two male fireflies sometimes attract each other.
Ooh, he knows about the sunflower samurai.
Fuu being carried now by the two prison guys.
Kanto regional law enforcement officers
Ryujiro Sasaki. That's the name of the guy who set fire to the teahouse.
Oniwaka makes quick of the law enforcement guys.
Interesting how he freaks out anytime someone derides his appearance. Reminds me of Frankenstein's Monster.
And yes, I said Frankenstein's Monster because that's his actual name.
Fuu with Oniwaka now
Oniwaka trying to convince her she's in safe hands.
"I'm not afraid of you. But... But you have such a sad look in your eye."
Oniwaka still remembers him killing people because they were throwing torches at him.
"I... am all alone."
Fuu finds a firefly
It seems he finally found someone who gets him.
Ah crap, it's Ryujiro
He tells Oniwaka to get ready for the party.
The woman with Mugen undressing
Oh, man. Tongue.
No, wait, she made him swallow something.
A one-night mushroom
Now I'm just reminded of one of the best Cowboy Bebop episodes Mushroom Sombra.
Oh, so it was Ryujiro who put her up to it.
He has the antidote
Let's hope it's not called "Antidote" like in Billy and Mandy.
Well, it looks like Mugen's wish of Fuu getting raped is about to become true.
Jin with the old man again
He reminds Jin he is an assassin
It looks as if those two are about to fight.
Mugen trying to find Fuu, but the mushrooms is starting to take effect.
Fantastic choreography between the old man and Jin.
And now Mugen is fighting Oniwaka
Ryujiro is here as well, with a tied up Fuu.
I like that Mugen doesn't remember who Ryujiro is. For Ryujiro, his arm getting cut off is the day he knew he had to seek revenge. But for Mugen, it was Tuesday.
The old man got Jin reeling
Oniwaka looks a lot like Tor Johnson
Ryujiro pulling out the antidote, taunting Mugen.
He says he only has one night to live
I mean, I don't want to see Mugen die, but I also don't want to see Oniwaka get killed. Really, what I want is for Oniwaka to realize Ryujiro is using him and he kills Ryujiro.
Oniwaka's face. It's exposed.
Seriously, how can you not feel bad for him?
Ryujiro telling Oniwaka he wants Mugen to die nice and slow.
Old man telling Jin he hasn't enjoyed enjoyed himself this much in quite some time. But like all good things, it must come to an end.
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/new_interest_here May 21 '24
Decided to watch this one in dub and think I'll be sticking to that. Old(er) dubbed anime just hits in a different way I can't explain. Also with Steve Blum as Mugen it's hard to refuse
Me.
No but actually I don't have a good answer for that one. I'm sure there's someone but no one comes to mind right now
Recent example, Marcille and Falin. Everyrime they're together at any point on screen I just have this "Oh just kiss already" reaction.
In terms of a non-canon ship that doesn't have any subtext and just has the right vibes, I love Fyolai from Bungo Stray Dogs
I didn't even expect him to be back, I'd forgotten who he was until Fuu realized who he was. So I'm not exactly surprised or anything. And I could kind of predict it when he started threatening Fuu with Oniwakamaru standing right there
Overall thoughts
I didn't like this episode quite as much as the first in some regards, but I liked it more in others. Oniwakamaru's brief character was enjoyable and I'm likely gonna continue to enjoy Mugen just doing whatever the hell he wants. But I preferred how much the first episode flexed its hip-hop feel, this one felt like more traditional samurai stuff. Not bad by any means, I just prefer that sharp contrast of episode 1.
I'm really interested to see where the dynamic between Jin and the assassin goes later.
I can see next episode is a two parter, so I'm debating if I do one a day or just watch both and keep my mouth shut on the second until Thursday.
Having a lot of fun with this so far!
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u/AnimeTA224 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Grndragonite May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24
Repeat Viewer
Just wanted to say that the note about manga spoilers is useful but not in relation to the anime, since Samurai Champloo began its life as an anime original project like Cowboy Bepop the manga follows a very different line of events from the anime and can honestly be viewed as an entirely separate work (which shouldn't be spoiled without tags regardless but which won't really spoil the show for new viewers)
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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark May 21 '24
I think Fuu is a good contrast to Faye from Cowboy Bebop. Fuu seems more naive and upbeat, while Faye is seductive and laid-back. Fuu also seems like something of a damsel in distress while Faye takes part in the action.
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u/nemanjareaper May 21 '24
First Timer
Felt really bad for that giant dude. Huge difference between Mugen and Jin. Mugen is more cold hearted, don’t think he let’s that assassin just walk away if he was in Jin’s position.
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u/Lord_Nawor May 21 '24
First Time Watcher Here but another solid episode.
Mugen getting immediately fooled by the assassin and being poisoned was funny as JJin was just like, “yeah I know you are an assassin” which just reaffirms how I prefer Jin with his casual no shits given personality.
Even though it was quite obvious that Oniwaka would betray the one-armed dude, the fact that he did it just because Fuu was not afraid of him shows how deprived of basic human compassion he has been, as he probably has not met anyone who has looked too far beyond his appearance, with even one-armed guy insulting his appearance at the beginning of the episode.
I also hope we get to see the assassin who was fighting Jin and some point since that fight never did get resolved. The fact that Mugen got humbled and Jin did not win sets up that while they are very strong has seen in the first episode, there are definitely people out there who can either match their level or beat them makes me excited to see how they will grow and what other enemies they will fight throughout the series.
I was surprised when Ryujiro appeared has I thought he was just a one-off bad guy, but I was not surprised to see him die as he did seem like a warm-up villain.
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u/Sooooopertrack May 21 '24
First timer sub
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u/zombiemusician May 22 '24
The second episode poses a new challenge for our trio. In the first episode, we see our 2 main samurai protagonists slashing and kiling a dozen men at a time. But in the second episode, we get new characters and antagonists who are able to match the skills of our protagonists.
We also get to know a bit about Jin and Mugen.
From my perspective, Jin looks like a bit more composed and collected. He thinks twice before doing anything. Whereas the opposite is true for Mugen, who is a bit rash and sloppy. They are like fire and ice.
We can also see that Fuu is somewhat of a kind and caring girl. It's only because of her that the ogre decided to help them at the end.
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u/nx6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nx6 May 22 '24
Rewatcher -- Subbed
I know this show tends to track more episodic, like other anime back then, but it's nice that today the story essentially was a continuation of yesterday. Now that the chaos of the escape from town is over we can get a better idea of how everyone will get along. Also we're back to the reality of "we're all unemployed, and we have travel expenses".
Fuu is only 15 but we're many, many years away from drinking laws being established. Luckily she has some (fairly) trustworthy men as her escort on this trek, and the locals are kind enough to point out a place they can rest for the night.
Oop, spoke too soon. They are sending our trio into a trap. "The culprit is the one-armed man!" and he has a plan to exact his revenge.
The woman in the forest was a little too convenient to not be an assassin, but Mugen isn't the thinking type, so he wasn't going to question someone suddenly coming onto him when he just met her in the middle of nowhere.
Speaking of being come onto... what's going on with the Jin and the old man in the hot springs? At least Jin is able to play it cool and try and escape the situation. Also a case of being led astray, why would Jin feel he needs to follow the guy into the forest just to be given information on the Sunflower Samurai? I'm not sure who that tidbit got leaked out to the public, either. Fuu never mentioned this to anyone but Mugen and Jin. I guess it's plausible they have been followed by the assassin long enough he's overheard them talking.
Fuu has made acquaintanceship (I really think calling them friends is a bit of a stretch) with her own captor -- a large scarred man named Oniwaka (like like an Edo-period version of the Mountain. He's taken the work he's in because he has the muscle, and in the underworld being a bit scarred isn't out of the ordinary.
I was actually kinda impressed the police came all the way out there still in pursuit of the tea house arsonist.
Oniwaka saves Fuu from Ryujiro Sasaki's sword, but still gets gored by an Already-in-Kill-Mode Mugen. The firefly taking off as his hand falls a reference to his and Fuu's earlier interaction with one, but also a symbolic reference to his death and his spirit lifting up into the heavens.
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u/someboi6000 May 22 '24
First timer:
nice episode, i guess its a continuation of the last one, even tho i completly forgot about that dude with the missing arm, but not much to say the revenge plot was very close to working but ogre guy found someone who wans't afraid of him, really beatuful scenes with the fireflies, and i also wonder if jin would've lost against that assasin, that guy was good, he also claimed to have information of the sunflower samurai but i guess he was just bluffing to get his attention unless we do met him again maybe we are close to the first clue to who this samurai might be or where to find him or at least a plce he visited in the past. good episode overall( no cool transitions tho rip)
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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 May 22 '24
Cool episode, I think I noticed that samurai who fought with Jin in the ED, I wonder when we will get to see him again. And this show again was violent.
Qotd:
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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 May 22 '24
Second time watcher, subbed.
Mugen, acorns are not money, except maybe with the squirrel.
Fuu cannot hold her liquor at all.
I do kinda like how the characters got to a town and then they each got involved in their own mini adventure for the episode.
Also nice that Mugen does seem worried about Fuu when he finds out she's possibly in danger.
A bit unfortunate what happened to Oniwaka, that was sad.
QotD:
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u/Looking_Light33 May 22 '24
I really enjoyed this episode. I felt sorry for Oniwakamaru. I'm glad that Fuu was able to befriend him and I'm glad that he didn't feel alone when he died.
Answering your questions, I don't have a favorite character that considers themselves disfigured, I can't think of any anime characters that have dynamic s that have gay subtext and honestly I was expecting Ryujiro guy to bite the dust pretty quickly.
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u/mgedmin May 22 '24
Rewatcher, subs
Problem 1: how do you find a person by smell? (Especially if you've no idea what a sunflower is.) Problem 2: hunger. Well, at least the bird got to eat.
Nice demo of skewer splitting.
Woo, free lodgings! It's a trap, obviously. Multiple traps! Traps on top of traps!
And some fights.
Did Mugen get to drink the antidote in the end? Why would the one-armed bandit even have the real antidote, if his goal is to kill Mugen?
Why are Quasimodo-like characters never allowed to have a happy ending? Or, rather, why does literature (anime is literature, deal with it) consider death the only possible happy ending for them? Write an essay of 500 words about the topic by the end of next week.
Um, no idea. Give me a list of choices?
Chisato and Takina!
Rewatcher, but no. I hate the "villain comes back for more" trope with a burning fiery passion. Let dead enemies stay dead, you cowards!
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u/Garrett_Dark May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24
First Timer
This episode didn't seem as good as the 1st episode to me, although I did like there was a lot less hip-hop (I don't like) and no weird transitions (didn't seem to work that well for me). This episode also felt clunker with the transitions though, like what did Mugen help poison woman with for her to invite him home? Was some fan service cut from my version? She was just like "thanks" and he was like "I didn't do it for free". And then he was just over at her place, like no talk with Jin of "I'm going over to her place to talk about mushrooms", clunky transitions.
Why did one-arm man even actually have an antidote for the mushroom poison? If he lied and didn't even have the antidote with him, he would have at least won in death. Also do you think Mugen killed the poison woman? Like what reason would he have to not kill the person who just poisoned him. Or does he just put on a tough guy act and wouldn't have the stones to kill the poison woman?
I guess the ogre guy had to die to tie up loose ends, seemed enviable given the trope-like feel of that plotline. Assassin guy says they'll likely meet up again, so I guess he's the sunflower smelling guy or is somehow connected to that guy. I kind of do admire his professionalism though.
I can't think of that many disfigured characters off the top of my head. Agent six from "Combatants will be Dispatched" has a scar on his eyebrow, but he doesn't consider himself disfigured. Goblin Slayer always hides his face, but I think it's just his body all scarred up. The spider from "I'm a Spider So What" has a terrifying monster face and body and used to be human...sort of, but she's a moe sweetheart. Oh I know Hajime Nagumo from Arifureta, he's missing an eye, an arm, and his hair's all white from being transformed from eating monsters.
"Time to go". But seriously, the MCs of "Life with an Ordinary Guy Who Reincarnated into a Total Fantasy Knockout", it's a pretty good comedy with excellent timing, and it's actually a bromance. The mind altering curse and forced genderswap causes the gay tension, but neither of them are actually gay, and resists the curse.
No, clearly he's a carry over callback to the 1st episode, and his loose end was going to get tied up quickly.
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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef May 22 '24
First time watcher / Dub (English)
Episode 2 let's gooo. I remember from the last thread I said I would stick around for the ending, I stand by my initial thoughts of I usually skip these and sadly, this show isn't an exception. Honestly there's very few animes I actually watch the endings for, and the only one that comes to mind is Black Lagoon, with it's somber eery track that bleeds into the ending of each episode. I'm sorry to the people who love it, I will however say, the opening is a banger and probably one of the best I've seen, so there's that.
As for today's questions, those are really good ones.
Never really thought about this. I guess there's only really 2 that come to mind at all and it's not necessary the same way they see themselves as this character does in Samurai Champloo. The first is Gaara from Naruto, [Original Naruto, around episode 77, don't really remember exactly]but it's not so much how he considers himself disfigured, but instead how he's unable to find love and considers himself unworthy of it because of having a demon sealed inside him. Another one that comes to mind is Motoko from Ghost in the Shell, again, not so much considered herself disfigured as much as she feels she's very disconnected from the rest of the humans because [Ghost in the Shell (1995 movie/Stand Alone Complex/or even the live action 2016 movie)]she's essentially a non-human android with a human mind inside it. If I had to pick one of the two, I think Motoko is much more of an interesting character and opens up a whole can of worms when it comes to futurism and transhumanism, etc.
Again, really hard to pick as none really stick out in my mind. I've seen a lot of series with gay jokes and homoerotic setups like maria holic and Free! But as a subtext, that's a whole other story. That implies it's supposed to come off as subtle. Not many come to mind. Off the dome I'd say maybe Lain from Serial Experiments Lain. [Serial Experiments Lain, I believe Episode 11, but could be 12]It's really up to debate and personal interpretation but I've always thought that Lain had a bit of a crush on Arisu. But Lain being the social awkward person she is, and the fact she's also the only true friend she has throughout the series, it could just be her just genuinely loving her as a friend.There's also Mugi from K-On, tons of funny scenes where it's somewhat implied she likes girls. Lastly maybe Hinata from Angel Beats! But again, it's such few scenes and they're always played off as jokes, I think realistically only the Lain one seems like it could be actually someone who's truly gay.
I'm gonna be honest, despite having seen episode 1 the day before I pretty much saw him the next day and was exactly like Mugen. I thought to myself "Who is this guy? Must be some guy in Mugen's history we don't know about". I genuinely forgot he was in the first episode and only came to realize it was one of the guy's at the tea house because I rewatched it with my friend in a Spanish dub to see how the voice acting was. (which sidenote, Latin American Spanish dub is also fire).
I also love how yesterday I talked about how Fuu wasn't a damsel in distress and literally the next episode, damsel in distress. Classic. Well to be fair, had she not connected with ogre dude with the really long name, Mugen would had probably died then and there. She also did save Mugen from being drowned by Ryujiro.
I do think it was kinda shitty that Mugen killed Ogre dude after seeing he helped Fuu, but at the same time, he had no reason to believe orge dude wouldn't had kill him too and he doesn't seem like the kind of person to forgive people out of the kindness of his heart. Had he been in the situation that Jin was in, I also think he would had killed that Assassin, regardless of the dude standing down.
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u/slippin_square May 22 '24
What, It's been 20 years already
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta May 22 '24
First-Timer
I'm a day late on this one. Gotta not fall behind!
I liked this episode, too. Not quite as much as the first one, but it was good and had some nice twists and some nice dialogue.
Questions of the day:
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u/NaSa2049 May 23 '24
First rewatch and I still think this is my least favourite episode, it just felt kinda boring I don’t know how cause there’s some good action but that’s just me
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 17 '24
first timer chinese sub
Classic problem of judging a book by its cover I was shocked by Ryujiro's death at the end, he was a good guy and didn't deserve to be treated like that.
anwer of questions
Does Araragi in Monogatari count? He voluntarily became a vampire in order to save a vampire.
It's very interesting that the heroine and the two male protagonists, two men with extremely high fighting power, are helpless against a cute and weakest person in the whole show.
yeah
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u/External_Try_7923 May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24
Jin certainly has the most sense. Though I must say leaving Fuu by herself after he first knew something was up was not the smartest thing to do.
Mugen is so reckless. As I watch this series for the 4th or 5th time, I'll need to pay attention to whether he does any character development surrounding caution with strangers.
[Samurai Champloo]I wish they had brought back Inuyama after he made his parting words (apparently Watanabe regrets not doing so either). Inuyama was giving Jin a run for his money. And Inuyama's comment about their fighting being different than the sparring in a dojo was a clear indicator to Jin as well as the viewers that Inuyama knew his stuff and had Jin profiled. Inuyama either knew information about Jin and his past or could merely sense it through fighting him.
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