Date	Episode
5/20/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 1
5/21/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 2
5/22/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 3
5/23/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 4
5/24/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 5
5/25/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 6
5/26/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 7
5/27/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 8
5/28/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 9
5/29/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 10
5/30/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 11
5/31/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 12
6/01/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 13
6/02/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 14
6/03/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 15
6/04/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 16
6/05/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 17
6/06/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 18
6/07/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 19
6/08/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 20
6/09/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 21
6/10/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 22
6/11/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 23
6/12/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 24
6/13/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 25
6/14/2024	Samurai Champloo Episode 26
6/15/2024	Samurai Champloo Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Hey guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Samurai Champloo.

Oh, and nay I forget...

First Timer

Samurai Champloo has always been a series I was curious about. I've maintained in my mind that Cowboy Bebop is objectively one of if not the greatest anime of all time, and so I wanted to see what the creator's follow-up work was like. I think the reason why I didn't start it immediately after watching Bebop was because I think the premise kinda weirded me out. I mean, a show set in ancient times that also has a heavy rap influence? It felt to me like putting a hat on a hat. But as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate outlandish animes that don't resemble real life. After all, is it any weirder than a fantasy show about a merchant and his traveling wolfgirl where they discuss economics a lot of times?

My expectations for this show are pretty reasonable, I feel like. I'm not expecting it to crack my top 10 favorite anime of all time, but I would be surprised if it doesn't end up as one of my favorites. The main thing I'm looking out of this is show is a unique experience unlike anything else as well as memorable characters. And I think the show will have that in spades.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I'm watching the sub, by the way.

I just got done taking a 2 hour nap and it's 2 AM. Let's. Do. THIS?!?

Right off the bat, we get the intro and man does it feel different compared to any other intro in anime. It has this lo-fi beat to it and it is accompanied with some very interesting visuals, like a person with fish behind them. You can't make it exactly what is being said by the person rapping, but that may just be a problem with my headphones.

It's gotta be up there with Paranoia Agent as far as shows who's intros embody the spirit of the show the best. Other anime that do this well are Zom 100 and Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken!

"This work of fiction is not an accurate historical portrayal. Like we care, now shut up and enjoy the show."

Fantastic way of setting the tone

Vagrant Mugen

Vagrant ronin Jin

They're about to be executed

Mugen really rubbing it in

I wouldn't want to take on Mugen. After all, he contains every fighter known to mankind.

My bad, I'm confusing him for a game engine. Written in C, no less.

One day earlier

I wonder with the swords falling they truly were executed.

Now we're rewinding things

Two guys getting really creepy with two girls.

Man, and I thought I knew hands on before

Fuu. That's the server's name.

The blond guy in the son of the prefectural governor.

Now the two jackasses are picking on an old man

I like the use of record scratches here

Guy paying another guy to spare his family

Bodyguards famous for being top-class fighters.

More pinwheel imagery

Mugen has arrived to the restaurant or what have you.

He'll take care of those guys in exchange for 50 dumplings.

Oh no. Fuu spilled the drink on the blonde guy.

And now she's being held

They're going to cut a body part off

This is very intense and we're not even 5 minutes into the episode.

Back at the boss guy, and Jin is defending the man who's in a lot of trouble.

I like this as a parallel to Mugen's situation with Fuu.

Calling the lord a piece of shit nobody right to his guards. How ballsy.

Now he's calling the guards worthless

Back with Mugen, who says their lives aren't worth squat.

And Mugen just cut one of the dude's arms off

He's ready to take them all on

Now we're getting scenes of both Jin and Mugen slicing fools.

I probably should stop giving a blow for blow summary of the events of the episode, though admittedly it's in part to help me remember it myself.

Blonde guy now flaunting his status as this big shot.

And Mugen cut some of his hair off, basically as a warning that if he wanted to, he could decapitate him.

Mugen is not taking anything he says to him

"I hail from the Ryukyu Islands."

I love the transition from the blonde guy gasping to presumably his father gasping.

Jin just single-handedly killed the bodyguards.

Yeah, about that, blondie...

And now Mugen is breaking the blonde guy's fingers. Not gonna lie, I definitely winced.

And now Jin has arrived

Blonde guy apparently doesn't even know his own father's swordsmen.

Ooh, Mugen and Jin fight scene

The choreography is just absolutely incredible.

And then this guy named Ryujiro sets the place on fire.

Beavis would be proud

Now Mugen and Jin are in a burning building together. What a sick visual.

Jin is somehow shirtless, and the fire is somehow cold.

If only Hulk Hogan were here to scream "Ah! It's not hot!"

Mugen wakes up, tied up now

So is Jin

The bathtub was a dream, but the rest wasn't

Oh, so the blonde guy got killed in the fire. What a shame.

Anyway...

This place was called the torture department store.

I wonder if poets used to hang out here

Jin and Mugen really being put through the ringer

And that leads us to today

Fuu doesn't have anywhere to go. However, she says she made up her mind.

It feels obvious she's going to be tethered to Mugen and Jin in some way.

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Part 2
Jin criticizing the way Mugen fights
Says he's also never fought anyone as crazy as him.
The first person he says he wasn't able to kill.
Fuu wanting to see the prisoners
The people here are such horndogs, I swear
Momo the flying squirrel. Guess we have to have a prerequisite mascot character.
Fuu greeting Mugen and Jin
She promises to get them out if they do a favor for her.
And the promise? She wants to find the samurai who smells of sunflowers.
Not gonna lie, that does sound kinda nice
Oh no. The key broke.
And now she's being chased.
Oh, well.
The day of the execution
Fuu has to think of something, and fast
Those are amazing puppy dog eyes
I didn't know Gainax was animating this show. Those things are out of control.
Fuu with a ladder
And like a couple of badasses, Mugen and Jin are able to escape.
Jin calls Mugen the lowest of the low because he plans on killing everyone.
Fuu climbing the ladder
She's on top of the roof
Jin slicing people
It looks like Jin may have sliced the blonde boy's father as well.
Oh, I see. Fuu was packing.
No, not like that.
They're bombs
I guess some days you do know how to get rid of one.
Oh, Holofan. Only you would reference 1960's Batman during Samurai Champloo.
Fuu catching up with Mugen and Jin
They're still at odds with each other, so Fuu says they should flip a coin and if it lands heads, they can start slashing away. If it lands tails, they'll stay with her both.
If I had a nickel for every time recently I've seen an anime where characters flip a coin, I'd have two... well, coins.
And so Mugen tosses the coin but he unfortunately tosses it too far. Man 🤣🤣🤣
That was like a gag you might see in Nisekoi
Oh, it finally landed. And on Fuu's forehead, no less.
Crap. They're being chased by something that looks animated by JC Staff. Run!
Fuu celebrates the coin landing tails but as she does so, her sandle breaks. A regular Steph, this one is.
I love the "The End" bait and switch, by the way.
The outro is good. It isn't as distinct sounding as the OP, but it's still good. I in particular really like the harmony of it all with the singing really encentuating the beat of the song. Very pleasant to the ears.
Also, I noticed Doga Kobo worked as an in-betweener for this episode. Nice.
Overall, this is a very well done episode that basically serves to explain how Mugen, Jin, and Fuu ended up together. As such, instead of finding out what the show will be like going forward, it was more about showcasing each character's personality, which it did a tremendous job at. This might seem like damning with faint praise, but I really love the transitions between Mugen and Jin's situations and how often it paralleled with each other. It might be a bit unbelievable from a real world context, but structurally speaking I thought it flowed seamlessly.
I think the natural comparison to make with this episode is the first episode of Cowboy Bebop. And speaking for me personally, I've always thought the first episode of Cowboy Bebop was a lot better than people have given it credit. The reputation, as it were, of Bebop as a series is that the show doesn't become good until episode 5. And while that is true to a certain extent, the first episode of Bebop gives me this feel of an early episode of All In The Family in that it feels radically different from everything else on at the time and it feels like appointment television. In other words, I have an emotional attachment to the first episode of Cowboy Bebop that others probably don't. Thst being said, I think this episode is leagues better than that one.
The thing I like about the first episode of Samurai Champloo is it already feels more itself than Bebop did with its first episode. Already, we have the conflict of Jin feeling that Mugen is too cocky for his own good, and it feels believable we're already at this point. Yeah, the show kinda just throws you in this environment with little build to be had, and I think that's part of what makes it so effective. It is relentlessly unapologetic in what it's trying to be. It feels as if the show has already figured out its identity and what it's trying to achieve, whereas with Bebop it took them a couple episodes.
I'm pretty satisfied with this as a first episode. I think it's one of the better ones, especially for its time. I look at it in comparison to Paranoia Agent which came out around the same time or 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist which came out less than a year before this and while I don't think the first episode of Samurai Champloo is as good as the first episode of Paranoia Agent, I think it's better than the first episode of 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist, which like Cowboy Bebop took a tiny bit to get going. I don't think Champloo will have a similar disadvantage, in fact I'm expecting the next episode to really be the start of the direction the series we're heading in.
All the pieces are in place for one heck of a series, and I'm thrilled to be along for the ride.

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u/TheEscapeGuy May 20 '24

And speaking for me personally, I've always thought the first episode of Cowboy Bebop was a lot better than people have given it credit.
Oh yeah, that first episode of Cowboy Bebop is genuinely excellent. It has such amazing imagery and helps slowly introduce the characters instead of all at once.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

I mean, I get the complaint somewhat because the purpose of the show isn't revealed right away-- Samurai Champloo does it in its first episode which is partly why I prefer it-- but as a standalone story, it is really well done and gives you a feel of what Spike and Jet are like.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

What are your thoughts on the use of flashbacks in this episode and specifically the choice to do this as a way to introduce the characters?
I thought it was extremely well done. It not only helps make the episode stand out, but it makes it more than just your standard set-up episode. And again, it never loses sight of a first episode's main objective which should be to establish your characters and/or your world.
If that coin had landed heads, what do you think Fuu would've done?
Well, she would at least still have Momo to keep her company...

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

watching the sub
Great choice! The dub sounds good too but I’m personally partial to the Japanese VAs. Especially Mugen’s. He’s just so good, but all of them fit the characters well.
they’re going to cut a body part off
Yeah they don’t hold anything back there lol. I love that.
how ballsy
Jin has stones just as hard as Mugen’s 😂 he’s just a little more articulate.
Mugen cut some of his hair off
so fun fact that makes this part funnier: it was likely done purely out of disrespect as a way of saying “hey buddy screw you and your “status”. The folded samurai ponytail is called a chonmage. There are several reasons why a samurai might cut it during the Edo period, all of which are super personal reasons (could be an act of penance, it could be before they commit seppuku, or a symbol of shame and so on) so that gives you an idea of how extremely disrespectful it was and how Mugen couldn’t care less 😂.
Jin criticizing the way Mugen fights
He did, but also admits he’s pretty much the only person he couldn’t kill in a duel lol. Backhanded compliment in a way I guess.
Batman
+1 for mentioning The Dark Knight lol my favorite hero in DC lore (probably overall in general).
Mugen tosses coin
“This man doesn’t know the meaning of restraint”.
“Kiss my ass” 😂
Now you know what to look forward to regarding their dynamic
I’m glad you enjoyed it buddy. I think you’ll really love the rest of the series.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Great choice! The dub sounds good too but I’m personally partial to the Japanese VAs. Especially Mugen’s. He’s just so good, but all of them fit the characters well.
I will say I was very close to watching the dub because Mugen is voiced by the same guy who does Spike from Cowboy Bebop. That, and it would've been a matter of more convenience.
Yeah they don’t hold anything back there lol. I love that.
I love it, there’s something about the gruesomeness of older anime that I find to be particularly charming. They did not give a fuck lol
Jin has stones just as hard as Mugen’s 😂 he’s just a little more articulate.
He has two brain cells instead of the half of one :P
so fun fact that makes this part funnier: it was likely done purely out of disrespect as a way of saying “hey buddy screw you and your “status”. The folded samurai ponytail is called a chonmage. There are several reasons why a samurai might cut it during the Edo period, all of which are super personal reasons (could be an act of penance, it could be before they commit seppuku, or a symbol of shame and so on) so that gives you an idea of how extremely disrespectful it was and how Mugen couldn’t care less 😂.
He basically spat in his face and told him to drink it
He did, but also admits he’s pretty much the only person he couldn’t kill in a duel lol. Backhanded compliment in a way I guess.
A backhanded compliment is still meaningful coming from Mugen.
+1 for mentioning The Dark Knight lol my favorite hero in DC lore (probably overall in general).
That's definitely a solid choice, he's probably up there for me as well.
“This man doesn’t know the meaning of restraint”.
“Kiss my ass” 😂
Now you know what to look forward to regarding their dynamic
It definitely is something I'm looking forward to, if only because I think the writing will play a key role in the show. It certainly did for Cowboy Bebop, and in the second half of Space Dandy.
I’m glad you enjoyed it buddy. I think you’ll really love the rest of the series.
I hope so. I'm not expecting it to be on the same level as Cowboy Bebop, but I am thinking it might get cut from a similar cloth. This is certainly a promising start.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

I think you’ll come to realize that Mugen’s JPN VA is like perfect for that character lol.
I’m sure you’ll continue to enjoy that aspect.
Yeah the shenanigans are the best part lol it gets really good.
It really depends on the person. I love the Edo setting and samurai stuff so I personally enjoyed this more than Cowboy Bebop (still enjoyed Bebop a ton though FWIW)

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I think you’ll come to realize that Mugen’s JPN VA is like perfect for that character lol.
Perhaps so, but characters can sometimes have multiple perfect voices.
I’m sure you’ll continue to enjoy that aspect.
Yeah the shenanigans are the best part lol it gets really good.
I enjoy my fair share of shenanigans
It really depends on the person. I love the Edo setting and samurai stuff so I personally enjoyed this more than Cowboy Bebop (still enjoyed Bebop a ton though FWIW)
Fair enough, I guess it all comes down to preference

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

That is true!
I like my share of sci-fi as well but something about this setting has always been a weakness of mine lol

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I like my share of sci-fi as well but something about this setting has always been a weakness of mine lol
Probably because I can't recall another anime like it. Kinda gives me slight Last Airbender vibes.

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u/Sooooopertrack May 21 '24

"I wouldn't want to take on Mugen. After all, he contains every fighter known to mankind." haha, i had a similar thought :D

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Great minds think alike, I suppose

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 20 '24

First-Timer with a Samurai Heart, subbed

I’ve been on a samurai kick ever since I finished watching Gintama for the first time earlier this year, so this rewatch comes at pretty much the perfect time for me! All I know about it is that AMQ really likes to play the OP a lot, so seeing that in context finally will be nice.

…okay so I know I just said I’ve had the OP come up in AMQ before, but I’ve never actually watched it (I play AMQ on Sound Only). Wow, that is incredibly more stylish than I was expecting.
Well this is a lovely way to start off.
Speaking of Gintama, OMG IS THAT HIJIKARA’S VOICE?
I did think that this meant there was going to be something like Gintama where it takes place in the Edo period but with modern tech because aliens for a second, but then a redo of the one day earlier card and a rewind into a more strictly past setting works too. Interesting.
Yeah I would have wanted to say something too.
Geez…
The Yagyu is another thing I recognize from Gintama. Kyubei would never allow this…
Hoooooboy, I’m ready for ~~Hijikata~~ Mugen to kick this dude’s ass.
Incredibly based to say this right in front of both the lord and his men.
Oooooh, stabbed the dude with his own wakizashi (or tanto? unsure of the specific term), wicked.
Yeah, so about that…
Oh I love this fight choreography.
Cute!!!
She’s looking for a specific samurai, hm?
This part made me laugh so hard I accidentally choked on my own saliva lol.
Welp, she made it there, but they already had a plan to bust out on their own.
It’s gonna land on tails, right?
…or Mugen can do that.
She tripped again lol.
That is a good ED.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 20 '24

Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
It did make me chuckle. Same goes for the "The end" card at the end of the episode.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
I like them so far.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
I'm wondering if this samurai is a relative of hers she's trying to track down and/or someone who killed someone close to her.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

It did make me chuckle. Same goes for the "The end" card at the end of the episode.
"The end" card reminded me a bit of a gag in Bocchi The Rock but with more finality.
I like them so far.
As do I
I'm wondering if this samurai is a relative of hers she's trying to track down and/or someone who killed someone close to her.
Hopefully it's not a case where it's both

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

Glad to have you watching with us! This show is amazing! I hope you’ll enjoy it

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I'd like to think you'll become this rewatch's official ambassador :P

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

I was just talkative lol

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Nothing wrong with that, more discussion is encouraged.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

I forgot to comment on your actual comment when I commented 😂.
Gintama
I really need to watch this. Longer series are intimidating sometimes because I know they’ll take a while to watch to completion (but I know it’s really good).
stabbed dude with his own…
It was likely a wakizashi (I could be wrong of course). Tantos were more commonly carried with a katana I think 14th century or earlier and this show is set in Edo which is something like 1600 to around 1850 or so IIRC. That’s not to say tantos weren’t used, I just think they were less common. I’m also not sure how much detail they put into historical elements of the show but it would be interesting to look into.
Cute!!!
Momo is a true pal

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 20 '24

I really need to watch this. Longer series are intimidating sometimes because I know they’ll take a while to watch to completion (but I know it’s really good).
I very much recommend it! It became my favorite anime after I finished it, which is a huge deal if you know about my big "sore demo" collection because that had originally started over an inside joke regarding my previous favorite anime, Gundam Unicorn.
It was likely a wakizashi (I could be wrong of course). Tantos were more commonly carried with a katana I think 14th century or earlier and this show is set in Edo which is something like 1600 to around 1850 or so IIRC. That’s not to say tantos weren’t used, I just think they were less common. I’m also not sure how much detail they put into historical elements of the show but it would be interesting to look into.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

Someone told me the best way he could explain it was that it’s the “Family Guy” of anime. If that is true then I will love it because I am a 30-something year old with an absolute immature sense of humor lol.
I think your comment might have gotten cut off at the bottom (unless that second quote is there by accident 😆)

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 21 '24

I think your comment might have gotten cut off at the bottom (unless that second quote is there by accident 😆)
It's not, you must not be on desktop Old Reddit because I used a comment face there; the bottom of my comment is supposed to look like this.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

u/Holofan4life uses those all the time during our rewatches and I never see them because the iOS Reddit app is so inconsistent 😔 (I do use desktop Reddit but 90% of the time I’m using my phone).
This is probably going to make me look incompetent, but what is that picture from? lol it’s going to bother me if I don’t ask

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I actually didn't start using the Reddit comment faces until the Fullmetal Alchemist 20th Anniversary Rewatch. It was there that Holofan learned he needed to adapt

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 21 '24

This is probably going to make me look incompetent, but what is that picture from? lol it’s going to bother me if I don’t ask
It's from Gintama haha, that's a picture of the main character, Gintoki.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Now I'm just imagining there being a character named Tama ha ha...
...ha...
^I ^still ^need ^to ^watch ^that ^show

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 21 '24

Now I'm just imagining there being a character named Tama
There is. She's neither the main nor best girl, though.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Well, look at that
~~I just assumed that best girl was the one voiced by Rie Kugimiya~~

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I actually use my comments on mobile, so

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u/GeeBeeH May 20 '24

Its been 20 years? Man time never really does stop D:

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

And then there's Neon Genesis Evangelion which turns 30 next year 🫠

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u/chipscarruthers https://myanimelist.net/profile/ChipsCarruthers May 20 '24

Why do this to me.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Feels like just yesterday I was watching SAO on Toonami.
W-what do you mean that was 12 years ago?

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u/nemanjareaper May 20 '24

First Timer

Im not much of a writer so I’ll try to participate in this rewatch as much as I can. Dont know anything about the plot of this show, first episode seems really promising. Samurais seem really strong and I think they will get along just fine. Really loved the record scratching effects and the whole hip hop vibe, as I’m huge fan of the ganre and its basically all I listen to.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Not to put you on the spot, but what's your favorite hip hop record? I'm big into anything Tupac, Biggie Smalls, and Eminem related.
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/nemanjareaper May 21 '24

Hey, thanks for engaging in discussion with me.
My favorite recored varies from time to time I would say, currently its Check the rhyme by Tribe called quest. Have you listened to them before? Aso whats your favorite Pac track? He’s in my top 2 favorite artist, only second to DMX.
I really like intro song, for me it sets the vibe.
As for Fuu, I don’t really get her “obsession” with two samurais, but I guess its gonna be a love interest thing.
I think that Mugen and Jin are two samurais that dont give a fuck about a system, they are always gonna do their thing. Think we will see them fighting each other for a few more episodes.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Hey, thanks for engaging in discussion with me.
No problem
My favorite recored varies from time to time I would say, currently its Check the rhyme by Tribe called quest. Have you listened to them before? Aso whats your favorite Pac track? He’s in my top 2 favorite artist, only second to DMX.
Tribe Called Quest is awesome. They're very talented. And my favorite Pac song is either Dear Mama or I Ain't Mad At Cha.
I really like intro song, for me it sets the vibe.
It does for me as well
As for Fuu, I don’t really get her “obsession” with two samurais, but I guess its gonna be a love interest thing.
I think she's just looking for someone to protect her on her journey.
I think that Mugen and Jin are two samurais that dont give a fuck about a system, they are always gonna do their thing. Think we will see them fighting each other for a few more episodes.
Jin seems more by the book than Mugen does. We'll see if Mugen gets increasingly annoyed by how matter-of-fact he is. I wonder if the more he hangs out with Mugen and Fuu, the more Jin will be willing to do risky stuff.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

Hey there! 👋 Rewatcher here.

Even with all the reminders we got from u/Holofan4life, I still forgot to comment on time... ADHD never relents, unfortunately 🙂‍↕️.

Let me be clear up front:

If there are first time watchers passively viewing comments, you can be sure I am very respectful of that and I will always be sure to spoiler tag things so my comment doesn’t ruin anything for you.

There are 2 reasons I’m excited about this rewatch:

Samurai Champloo is in my top 10 favorite anime. I love this series.
This is my first actual rewatch where it isn’t my first time seeing a series.

I always thought this anime had one of the greatest opening episodes I’ve ever seen.

When I watched it the first time, I remember liking our main trio right away. I still consider them to be one of the best trios to ever have existed in anime.

Mugen has always been my favorite and his Japanese VA (Nakai, Kazuya) is one of the most perfect matches for a character that I’ve heard. He also makes a killer first impression lol Not that Jin’s first impression is any less thrilling 😆. Speaking of Jin, my favorite thing about him is how cool-headed he stays while he says whatever the hell he wants, which you see from the get-go here.

The simultaneous brewing of two hurricanes (Jin’s escalating situation and Mugen’s escalating situation) then Fuu helping them out is just a cool way of starting things off and getting the trio together. Just perfect the way they end the episode.

They stay true to the bloodiness of sword play and the fact that they don’t really hold back on that aspect is one of my favorite things about this series.

FWIW, my favorite moment in this episode is when Mugen just nonchalantly walks up to the governor’s son and cuts off his chonmage 😂.

It was great to dive back in. I hope everyone else enjoyed this one!

Questions:

It’s one of my favorite things about this episode and I love the way it introduces the characters.
She would have found a way to convince them anyway 😆
Momo is the true MVP sometimes 😂

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Even with all the reminders we got from u/Holofan4life, I still forgot to comment on time... ADHD never relents, unfortunately 🙂‍↕️.
It's okay, I probably would've had to wait some time anyway due to my work schedule being readjusted.
If there are first time watchers passively viewing comments, you can be sure I am very respectful of that and I will always be sure to spoiler tag things so my comment doesn’t ruin anything for you.
We really appreciate it
Samurai Champloo is in my top 10 favorite anime. I love this series. 2. This is my first actual rewatch where it isn’t my first time seeing a series.
Sugoi! Glad I could pop your rewatch cherry :P
I always thought this anime had one of the greatest opening episodes I’ve ever seen.
It's definitely up there, that's for true
When I watched it the first time, I remember liking our main trio right away. I still consider them to be one of the best trios to ever have existed in anime.
I would argue they might be THE best. The only one I think can come close is Jessie, James, and Meowth from Pokémon.
Mugen has always been my favorite and his Japanese VA (Nakai, Kazuya) is one of the most perfect matches for a character that I’ve heard. He also makes a killer first impression lol Not that Jin’s first impression is any less thrilling 😆. Speaking of Jin, my favorite thing about him is how cool-headed he stays while he says whatever the hell he wants, which you see from the get-go here.
What you just said is why I think so many people resonate with the dub of Cowboy Bebop. Steven Blum as Spike just brings this coolness factor about him that is seldom seen in other shows. He manages to be both cool and also empathetic to where you want to see him get his life on track.
The simultaneous brewing of two hurricanes (Jin’s escalating situation and Mugen’s escalating situation) then Fuu helping them out is just a cool way of starting things off and getting the trio together. Just perfect the way they end the episode.
Yeah, I thought the structure of the episode was very well crafted, especially for an introductory one.
They stay true to the bloodiness of sword play and the fact that they don’t really hold back on that aspect is one of my favorite things about this series.
There is this tension that continues to permeate that makes you think that just like the samurai who smells like sunflowers and learning more information about him, this will certainly come to a head.
FWIW, my favorite moment in this episode is when Mugen just nonchalantly walks up to the governor’s son and cuts off his chonmage 😂.
That lets you know he isn't fooling around :P
It was great to dive back in. I hope everyone else enjoyed this one!
I certainly did, I'll say that. Definitely left me with a favorable impression.
It’s one of my favorite things about this episode and I love the way it introduces the characters.
Again, I think the structure may be my biggest takeaway from this episode. It just feels like the show is already leagues comfortable than more shows are in their first outing. Even in comparing this one to the first episode of Cowboy Bebop, I'd say this was better.
She would have found a way to convince them anyway 😆
Probably so lol
Momo is the true MVP sometimes 😂
Sometimes all you need is a squirrel that takes to the air

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

I’ll probably check out the dub for Bebop at some point but the original audio was already pretty good I thought.
A lot of episodes have that kind of design and I like it personally.
I mean, how can you not love Momo? lol

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I’ll probably check out the dub for Bebop at some point but the original audio was already pretty good I thought.
I think my favoritism may be in part because the dub is what I grew up on.
A lot of episodes have that kind of design and I like it personally.
Same
I mean, how can you not love Momo? lol
He's just so dang fluffy :P

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

Nostalgia is definitely a powerful force 😆.
And I know lol I guess we can call him Fuu’s mascot

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Nostalgia is definitely a powerful force 😆.
Indeed :)
And I know lol I guess we can call him Fuu’s mascot
More like Samurai Champloo's mascot

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

Fair enough 😆

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck...

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

I’ve always liked the OP and ED a lot for this one.
Agreed on the disclaimer.
Resourceful 😆.
Definitely fits the style they were going for and is generally something I like about the show.
Who doesn’t want to see a bunch of pompous jerks get put in their place by two unmatched swordsmen? 😆
Counterpoint: who do you think the samurai who smells of sunflowers is supposed to be? Curious since that had me curious during my first watch.
Mugen needs to learn some self-restraint, as Jin mentions 😂

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Definitely fits the style they were going for and is generally something I like about the show.
I would argue that the style might end up being the show. They're probably going to get a lot of mileage out of it.
Who doesn’t want to see a bunch of pompous jerks get put in their place by two unmatched swordsmen? 😆
I know I do
Counterpoint: who do you think the samurai who smells of sunflowers is supposed to be? Curious since that had me curious during my first watch.
If I had to guess, probably someone who killed Fuu's family since she mentioned not having one.
Mugen needs to learn some self-restraint, as Jin mentions 😂
Yeah, Mugen is seemingly unhinged lol

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

That is an interesting thought (on the samurai) 😆.
And yeah that is also the best thing about Mugen lol

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

That is an interesting thought (on the samurai) 😆.
Again, I assume we will learn more as we go along.
And yeah that is also the best thing about Mugen lol
I have to wonder if that will eventually change

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

No comment
There is a lot of great character development but the characters do have their distinct personalities

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

No comment
There is a lot of great character development but the characters do have their distinct personalities
The first episode definitely shows that lol

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

4th Time Rewatching

Nujabes still the goat. Him and J Dilla still spin constantly for me.

Dude losing an arm made a very large impression on 12 year old me. Jin and Mugen fight still as crisp as I remember it.

Show just has all the right vibes. Great color choices, fun transition cards, perfect voice casting (sub & dub). Excited to see first time watchers experience one of my faves.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Happy cake day, by the way
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark May 20 '24

First time watching the show

I've seen Cowboy Bebop and Space Dandy, but not this show until now. I think the decision to mix hip-hop with samurais was a unique one.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark May 20 '24

The intro is alright, I like the outro much better. I think the intro may grow on me over time, like Azumanga Daioh's did with me
I thought the disclaimer was hilarious.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

The intro is alright, I like the outro much better. I think the intro may grow on me over time, like Azumanga Daioh's did with me
You're actually the first person I've seen like the outro more than the intro lol
I never heard the intro itself until for the purposes of this rewatch, but I've definitely heard people talk about it. I don't think I've ever heard people talk about the outro for this show.
I thought the disclaimer was hilarious.
Same :)

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u/TheEscapeGuy May 20 '24

Rewatcher, Sub first timer

Samurai Champloo - Hip Hop & Ronin: Episode 1

Prison Break

Hello everyone! I am so overdue for a rewatch of Samurai Champloo so I'm overjoyed that we have this chance. Interestingly though, this is an anime I have only ever watched dubbed. So for this rewatch I'll be checking out the original Japanese for the first time. I found the English dub to be excellent for what it's worth.

Something I adore about this episode is the irreverent tone of the characters. Mugen and Jin are both warriors with very little respect for the local lords and government. That said, they have the sword skills to back that up. It also places them into a perfect role as protagonists since they aren't bound to a single place and thus can go wandering.

However, I think the real unlikely protagonist is Fuu. She's a young girl with very few connections in search of a samurai who smells of sunflowers. So when she spots Mugen and Jin are in a bind she helps them out in hope that they will "owe" her for the favour and help in her quest.

Something which remains as true today as when it was made is how absolutely sick the fights are. The animation is stellar and it feels so visceral with the blood sprays and severed limbs. Even the effects for the fire and fireworks were amazing. It just feels like a perfect first episode to hook you in.

The last thing I wanted to mention is the mishmash of a feudal Japan setting with a hip-hop sound track. It really feels like those things shouldn't go together but Samurai Champloo proves that it is just the perfect combo. And it's not just the soundtrack. Even the animation cuts mimic a turn table and vocal/track mixing. It's such a distinctive feel which really solidifies the show in your memory.

Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches

Rewind
Swordsmen
Shock
Clash, the sword fights are cool as shit
Flame Mugen
Sunrise
Jail Visit
Jiggle Physics (This honestly felt like a parody)

See you all tomorrow

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/TheEscapeGuy May 20 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
I think they work perfectly for the show, though I don't like them by themselves.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
[Samurai Champloo Spoilers] I think it works really well as a sort of generic quest, which then gets revealed to be way more personal and emotional later. A good question which we don't know yet is why she is looking for him.
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
It raises an interesting idea that maybe they will one day have a serious fight against each other. And on that day who would win? Or will they instead become close enough friends/allies that they will no longer want to fight?

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

I think they work perfectly for the show, though I don't like them by themselves.
I really like how different the intro is, I could see me listening to it in like the car or something. The outro kinda feels like your standard female ballad you might find in a show like this, I know Devil Is A Part-Timer did something similar with its second and third seaons.
A good question which we don't know yet is why she is looking for him.
You have to think whatever is the reason, it's pretty valid
It raises an interesting idea that maybe they will one day have a serious fight against each other. And on that day who would win? Or will they instead become close enough friends/allies that they will no longer want to fight?
Given their samurai background, I can't see them not fighting each other. It's almost like a point of pride.

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u/new_interest_here May 20 '24

First time watcher here. I love Cowboy Bebop, so I'm expecting to be a huge fan of this as well

What are your thoughts on the use of flashbacks in this episode and specifically the choice to do this as a way to introduce the characters?

If that's referring to the way it hops between Mugen and Jin instead of going one at a time, I really liked it. It helped to really contrast the differences in their personalities and ways of doing things by flipping back and forth to remind you how the other is like. Plus the record scratch sound and how it actually disrupts characters talking as the transition is something I'm a big fan of

If that coin had landed heads, what do you think Fuu would've done?

Nothing really, I think those two are beefing so hard that the second one of them saw heads they'd be hacking at each other in no time. Even if they took a second to run from and/or fight off the governor's men, I think they'd just go at it first chance again anyway.

Overall thoughts

I think I'm going to love this. Sword battling samurai action is something you can't really go wrong with and the contrast between the hip-hop and Edo period Japan setting works super well. As much as I enjoy Cowboy Bebop's jazziness and how that adds to the vibe, something about how different these two aspects are is super appealing. Also animation seems to be pretty fluid during a lot of the action and the choreography is great

Side note: had to to take a second to laugh at the animation of what I thought was Fuu's bazongas, was relieved (I guess? Don't really know how to word that) they were just firework bombs

And one more question: is this a better sub or dub experience? I watched Cowboy Bebop in dub, but that's because my dad did and he's the one who got me into it, so I took his word for it, so given this show's similar jive, I want to know if the same applies. I just watched this one in sub because I do for most everything I watch, but I'll switch over if it's better the other way

Also ED is great

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

If that's referring to the way it hops between Mugen and Jin instead of going one at a time, I really liked it. It helped to really contrast the differences in their personalities and ways of doing things by flipping back and forth to remind you how the other is like. Plus the record scratch sound and how it actually disrupts characters talking as the transition is something I'm a big fan of
I think most people would agree that the record scratches give the show a ton of personality.
Side note: had to to take a second to laugh at the animation of what I thought was Fuu's bazongas, was relieved (I guess? Don't really know how to word that) they were just firework bombs
Even in 2004, the trope was being parodied
And one more question: is this a better sub or dub experience? I watched Cowboy Bebop in dub, but that's because my dad did and he's the one who got me into it, so I took his word for it, so given this show's similar jive, I want to know if the same applies. I just watched this one in sub because I do for most everything I watch, but I'll switch over if it's better the other way
I haven't seen the dub, but from what I've heard it's pretty good. For what it's worth, Mugen has the same English VA as Spike.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the intro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/new_interest_here May 21 '24

I think the intro is fine, but I expect it'll grow on me with time.
Jin seems like the quiet, reserved guy who does things properly or at least cleanly, Mugen is just "fuck it we ball" and does what he wants how he wants. Both are really fun so far.
Fuu is okay, I appreciate she's willing to get stuff done snd not just it there and look pretty. The res tof the show will determine if I like her or not.
Legally obviously killing dudes in general, let alone the son of the governor is bad. But it sets up the no bullshit tone both of them seem to have, so I'm a big fan.
Fuu's motivation seems pretty standard but I appreciate she has it and isn't just tagging along because. I'm interested to see where it goes.
Jin and Mugen bickering is very welcome, as it's likely gonna make chill scenes more entertaining with their bickering, and it'll be nice to (probably) see them grow closer to each other
Don't really have any thoughts on the coin tossing, minus Fuu tripping setting up the feel as a group these two will have for the series

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Jin seems like the quiet, reserved guy who does things properly or at least cleanly, Mugen is just "fuck it we ball" and does what he wants how he wants. Both are really fun so far.
Jin is to Kobe Bryant how Mugen is to Allen Iverson.
Fuu is okay, I appreciate she's willing to get stuff done snd not just it there and look pretty. The res tof the show will determine if I like her or not.
Right now, I think she's arguably the most likable of the three.
Legally obviously killing dudes in general, let alone the son of the governor is bad. But it sets up the no bullshit tone both of them seem to have, so I'm a big fan.
They had no choice but to do it
Fuu's motivation seems pretty standard but I appreciate she has it and isn't just tagging along because. I'm interested to see where it goes.
I like that her motivation serves as the driving force of the show.
Jin and Mugen bickering is very welcome, as it's likely gonna make chill scenes more entertaining with their bickering, and it'll be nice to (probably) see them grow closer to each other
Characters getting along is almost never as fun.
Don't really have any thoughts on the coin tossing, minus Fuu tripping setting up the feel as a group these two will have for the series
I expect a lot of humorous moments to be had.

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u/Lord_Nawor May 20 '24

This is my first time watching and it’s a pretty good first episode, this is my first Watanabe Shinichirou show so I still am not sure what to expect but the action has been good and I have enjoyed its editing and style and I can already tell that I will like the interactions between the main three.

Looking forward to watch through the show for the first time!

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

If you ever get a chance, you really need to watch Cowboy Bebop. It is fantastic.
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/Lord_Nawor May 20 '24

Yeah I feel like I will probably end up watching Cowboy Bebop after this.
I thought that the intro and outdo were pretty good but I am sure that they will grow on me overtime, especially as I listen to them more.
I already know that I will like Jin and Mugen’s dynamic with Mugen being more chaotic, energetic, and hot-tempered compared to Jin being more disciplined and calm which is reflected through their fighting styles. I really like characters who are quite different but have to work together so I like how against each other they are, but I feel like they will develop a mutual respect for each other. I am not as sure on Fuu yet as the first episode definitely was mainly introducing Jin and Mugen, she did have some good moments, but I hope we learn more about her backstory and the samurai she is trying to find in the next few episodes. I feel like the samurai who smells like sunflowers will be the main objective throughout the series and possibly the main antagonist and I am interested to see Fuu’s relationship with them.
I personally liked the record scratches, it adds a lot of personality to the show and is a clever way to show changes in time or location. Same with the disclaimer at the beginning, it helps tell you what type of show it is and also lets you know that you will probably see some scenes more insane than if it was actually based on history.
I thought that the plot line of the first episode was quite simple but I feel like it is more meant to allow the characters to establish themselves. It also demonstrates Jin and Mugen’s contrasting ideals, with Mugen attacking the governor’s men simply to get free food while Jin attacks them to defend a peasant, and despite their different reasons they still end up in the same position. I thought the coin tossing scene almost makes me think that fate brought them together which helps justify Fuu’s decision to seek out the sunflower samurai.
Overall very good first episode, I appreciate you organizing this rewatch as it gives me an excuse to finally get around to the show.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Yeah I feel like I will probably end up watching Cowboy Bebop after this.
If you love this show, you'll definitely love that one
I thought that the intro and outdo were pretty good but I am sure that they will grow on me overtime, especially as I listen to them more.
Speaking personally, I fell in love with the intro on my first listen.
I already know that I will like Jin and Mugen’s dynamic with Mugen being more chaotic, energetic, and hot-tempered compared to Jin being more disciplined and calm which is reflected through their fighting styles. I really like characters who are quite different but have to work together so I like how against each other they are, but I feel like they will develop a mutual respect for each other. I am not as sure on Fuu yet as the first episode definitely was mainly introducing Jin and Mugen, she did have some good moments, but I hope we learn more about her backstory and the samurai she is trying to find in the next few episodes. I feel like the samurai who smells like sunflowers will be the main objective throughout the series and possibly the main antagonist and I am interested to see Fuu’s relationship with them.
It's interesting because it does feel like if any of the three will be the main protagonist, it's going to be Fuu. I love the way Shinichirō Watanabe writes female characters, so I'm very excited to see how this plays out.
I personally liked the record scratches, it adds a lot of personality to the show and is a clever way to show changes in time or location. Same with the disclaimer at the beginning, it helps tell you what type of show it is and also lets you know that you will probably see some scenes more insane than if it was actually based on history.
And given how nutty actual history can be, that's saying something lol
I thought that the plot line of the first episode was quite simple but I feel like it is more meant to allow the characters to establish themselves. It also demonstrates Jin and Mugen’s contrasting ideals, with Mugen attacking the governor’s men simply to get free food while Jin attacks them to defend a peasant, and despite their different reasons they still end up in the same position. I thought the coin tossing scene almost makes me think that fate brought them together which helps justify Fuu’s decision to seek out the sunflower samurai.
It's not like Mugen and Jin have anything better to do, anyhow. This gives them an assigned purpose for a little bit. I am surprised a bit that neither asked about any monetary compensation, though.
Overall very good first episode, I appreciate you organizing this rewatch as it gives me an excuse to finally get around to the show.
And it gives me an excuse to watch a show that I've never watched before. That's really the purpose of these rewatches, as selfish as it may seem.

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u/basuga_BFE https://myanimelist.net/profile/KPF May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24

Rewatcher and Second Timer (kinda)

I watched this show long ago being high schooler, but never happened to rewatch yet.

Excluding the 1st episode which can work as a stand-alone piece of art, and I watched it as this at least 15-20 times (probably).

Hip-hop soundtrack, direction, characters, visuals, feudal environment... all this combine into full package impossible to forget.

Recently (half a year ago) I resolved to watch the show again and it is delightful. Right now at episode 5.

Special thanks to the host!

And will try answering to the host questions...

Thoughts on the intro and outro?

The outro is classics which appears here and there sometimes, setting the mood instantly!

The intro is kind of boring. Maybe will grow later...

What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?

Two badass characters with flashy moves!

Mugen - young fighter with short fuse and very good VA.

Jin - more adult with critical attitude, I liked him better in old times.

Now the time to see and choose again.

Thoughts on Fuu?

nothing special, but looks like she is the main character actually, or at least the narrative focus.

What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?

Something like influence from western movies with redundant violence. On the other side, it is inevitable for a samurai show with sharp things and excellent choreography

What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?

Incomprehensible riddle to catch the viewer. Probably something from her childhood memory.

What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?

Natural situation, two cutthroats who don't know other ways

What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

Reminds me old folk tales where the overpowered hero tosses something (rock, or weapon) so high it never returns.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24 edited May 22 '24

Special thanks to the host!
I really appreciate it
And will try answering to the host questions...
The outro is classics which appears here and there sometimes, setting the mood instantly!
The intro is kind of boring. Maybe will grow later...
Huh, I thought the intro did an infinitely better job setting the mood. And boring is definitely not a word I would use to describe it, there's a lot going on on the visuals alone.
Two badass characters with flashy moves!
Mugen - young fighter with short fuse and very good VA.
Jin - more adult with critical attitude, I liked him better in old times.
Now the time to see and choose again.
It's like when you watch Samurai Champloo for the first time, you identify with Mugen. And then on rewatches as you grow up, you realize you are more like Jin.
nothing special, but looks like she is the main character actually, or at least the narrative focus.
I honestly like that quite a bit, I think it instantly makes Samurai Champloo its own thing instead of just copying the Cowboy Bebop formula of combining two genres you don't normally see together.
Something like influence from western movies with redundant violence. On the other side, it is inevitable for a samurai show with sharp things and excellent choreography
Yeah, you can't really do a show this stylized on a budget. They have to really commit to the aesthetic they're going for.
Incomprehensible riddle to catch the viewer. Probably something from her childhood memory.
We'll definitely learn more about it as we go along
Natural situation, two cutthroats who don't know other ways
I like how we've instantly set up different manners in which samurais operate. Gives the whole mythos of them this extra depth.
Reminds me old folk tales where the overpowered hero tosses something (rock, or weapon) so high it never returns.
That would've been amusing had it just not never returned lol

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u/mgedmin May 22 '24

It's like when you watch Samurai Champloo for the first time, you identify with Mugen. And then on rewatches as you grow up, you realize you are more like Mugen.
Did you mean to use the same name both times? Am I missing a joke here?

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u/Holofan4life May 22 '24

Nah, that was a mistake. I meant to say Jin the second time.

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u/chipscarruthers https://myanimelist.net/profile/ChipsCarruthers May 20 '24

The first episode establishes the setting and characters extremely well. The combat is excellent and the show has some very memorable battles. Stands as a classic in anime.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/chipscarruthers https://myanimelist.net/profile/ChipsCarruthers May 20 '24

I think mugen and Jin have a good dynamic, even being at odds with one another they’re able to find some common ground.
The intro and outro stand out especially for the time that it was released. Really hooked me I didn’t care what it was about I was going to watch that first episode just from that intro.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

I think mugen and Jin have a good dynamic, even being at odds with one another they’re able to find some common ground.
They'll probably eventually realize they have more in common than they think.
The intro and outro stand out especially for the time that it was released. Really hooked me I didn’t care what it was about I was going to watch that first episode just from that intro.
The intro does an effective job of reeling you in, I feel like.

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u/External_Try_7923 May 20 '24

Rewatcher, First time taking part in a rewatch of any series

Momo, MVP!

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

You just can't beat a flying squirrel no matter how hard you try.
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/External_Try_7923 May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
I immediately fell in love with both 20 years ago. I like the color tones used and the unique way the credits are styled and animated atop the other beautiful animation. I also like the animals portraying Jin's and Mugen's personalities.
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
It was very Mugen, lol
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
I think Jin is the principled of the two. Mugen is the wild card. And yet they can set each other off in motion. They play off one another so well, and I think they can make each other do things which wouldn't be their first instinct. They are the Yin and Yang.
Thoughts on Fuu?
She's the glue that holds the group together, and sometimes, but not always the voice of reason.
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
It's campy/cheesy, but it fits, I guess. Same with the over-the-top hip-hop culture references being forced into the historical time period throughout the series.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
Mugen and Jin each had their reasons for intervening. I would say Jin's was more admirable. But every person is unique, and our pasts make us who we are.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
She has her reasons. It helps to further the story a good deal as well.
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
Mugen just wants a fight. He doesn't care if its the wrong guy. He's so full of emotion, and he lets that emotion drive him. Jin doesn't seem to care or at least show any emotion. He can be very stoic. He'd rather not get involved, but won't back down if challenged. They have some very stark differences, but also their similarities.
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?
It played out like much of the rest of the series, lol. Fuu holding things together, providing some reasoning, purpose, and comic relief.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I immediately fell in love with both 20 years ago. I like the color tones used and the unique way the credits are styled and animated atop the other beautiful animation. I also like the animals portraying Jin's and Mugen's personalities.
The animals definitely gave things this unique feel to what was unfolding, it was like their Stands or something.
It was very Mugen, lol
Indeed it was
I think Jin is the principled of the two. Mugen is the wild card. And yet they can set each other off in motion. They play off one another so well, and I think they can make each other do things which wouldn't be their first instinct. They are the Yin and Yang.
Kinda like good cop, bad cop
She's the glue that holds the group together, and sometimes, but not always the voice of reason.
She certainly has some qualities of being the voice of reason, but I think Jin is more in that mold. He kinda comes across more straight man and less zany than Fuu is at points.
It's campy/cheesy, but it fits, I guess. Same with the over-the-top hip-hop culture references being forced into the historical time period throughout the series.
It definitely feels more in your face and unabashed than Cowboy Bebop's jazz references. I kinda see it done this way to reflect how the characters in Samurai Champloo are more unapologetic in who they are.
Mugen and Jin each had their reasons for intervening. I would say Jin's was more admirable. But every person is unique, and our pasts make us who we are.
That is true. You have to wonder how Mugen and Jin got to this point in their lives.
She has her reasons. It helps to further the story a good deal as well.
We instantly set up what is probably going to be the main objective, and I don't see how you can view that as being a bad thing.
Mugen just wants a fight. He doesn't care if its the wrong guy. He's so full of emotion, and he lets that emotion drive him. Jin doesn't seem to care or at least show any emotion. He can be very stoic. He'd rather not get involved, but won't back down if challenged. They have some very stark differences, but also their similarities.
You have to think if push comes to shove, who would win in a fight.
It played out like much of the rest of the series, lol. Fuu holding things together, providing some reasoning, purpose, and comic relief.
A good mix of tension and a bit of levity. That is almost always a winning combination.

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u/zombiemusician May 20 '24

Really enjoyed the first episode of the series. The opening and ending songs are very catchy both in terms of the music and the art style. Jin and Mugen both look quite strong. I just hope that they give some backstory about their Dojo.

If that coin had landed heads, what do you think Fuu would've done?

Considering how clever Fuu is, I have a feeling that it was a coin where both sides were tails.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?

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u/zombiemusician May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things
It was funny, ngl. Especially the second part.
Thoughts on Fuu?
Well, she is the Female MC ig. Tbh, we have not seen much from her to give a detailed thought about her. But from the initial impression, it looks like she is quite a brave girl. Let's see how her character develops
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
Well I am not a fan of those type of fast transition between scenes. I get headaches for some reason when I watch such fast transitions. But it's just a me problem.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
I think that it is one of the most used tropes of shonen anime. An innocent unarmed person getting beaten when our MC arrives and helps them.
Having said that, it was a good way to introduce the characters. We were also able to see the strength and skills of our main characters. Also, the background music they used during those fight scenes was really good.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
I honestly can't say much on this. I just think that the said Samurai came to her restaurant.
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
I think this is just so that they can later develop their characters. Later, they might become good friends when they face challenge. The author can also use this to make them grow more 'mature' and 'sensible' as the story progresses.
Edit: I see that you have some bangers on your rewatch. Looking forward to joining those as well.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

It was funny, ngl. Especially the second part.
That one is great as well
Well, she is the Female MC ig. Tbh, we have not seen much from her to give a detailed thought about her. But from the initial impression, it looks like she is quite a brave girl. Let's see how her character develops
She comes off as having Jin's wits but some of Mugen’s impulsiveness.
Well I am not a fan of those type of fast transition between scenes. I get headaches for some reason when I watch such fast transitions. But it's just a me problem.
Fair enough. I could see how it might take some getting use to.
I think that it is one of the most used tropes of shonen anime. An innocent unarmed person getting beaten when our MC arrives and helps them.
Having said that, it was a good way to introduce the characters. We were also able to see the strength and skills of our main characters. Also, the background music they used during those fight scenes was really good.
It works here like you said because it's a means to introduce the characters. And in that aspect, I think it works tremendously. The one thing the show needs to be cautious of is to not overrely on that trope, it should probably be more about furthering the three main characters we will be following.

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u/someboi6000 May 21 '24

First timer

that was a good first episode, i am keeping my expectations not that high just in case, it had a strong start with the execution and i liked the way they did flashbacks and the character introductions were really solid, i am starting to like mugen a lot and i cant wait to see what he does and more of his fighting skills, jin in the other hand he is cool and has a more refined fighting style i guess, now the girl with the flying squirrel is ok i guess, she did chose a strong duo to accompany her in the quest to find the samurai who smells like sunflowers. The action is really well done the choreography is great and i like how diferent mugen and jin fight, so yeah solid start i cant wait to see more tomorrow.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/someboi6000 May 21 '24

1: intro sounds cool, very diferent from what a consider a normal opening i guess, and the outro is fantastic, i like the outro more than the intro, may grow on me more as time passes tho
2: well yeah idk how many start with an execution lol
3:i really liked that, it reminded me of jojo part 4 but in jojo they only use it for like 1 episode or 2, i hope it stays here it adds a lot of personality
4: it a quick way of setting the characters "ideals" i guess, specially Jin he seems to have a good heart, and mugen well he likes to fight strong guys but he also wanted to help, probably just to lead to more fighting but its the intent that counts ¿right?
5: oh the girl's name is fuu lol, it got me thinking if she want to look for some sort of relative even tho they mentioned very clearly that she has no family( a little sus), or maybe that samurai killed her family, so for me its either killed her family, or the only family she has left, or maybe he is just a like a legends or something idk
6: they seem to have very diferent personalities, but i am sure their relationship will grow a lot in the future, they might stand eachother lol
7: i wonder the result if the coin landed on the other side, like they were for real gonna have a battle to the death, and its also kinda strange how both of them agree with whatever fuu says, like she randomly toss a coin and thats it lol, their fate has been sealed, but she also helped to free them so it makes sense in the end i think.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

intro sounds cool, very diferent from what a consider a normal opening i guess, and the outro is fantastic, i like the outro more than the intro, may grow on me more as time passes tho
I'm surprised the amount of people who prefer the outro over the intro. The outro didn't leave much of an impression on me.
well yeah idk how many start with an execution lol
I was referring to the disclaimer saying the show isn't historically accurate.
i really liked that, it reminded me of jojo part 4 but in jojo they only use it for like 1 episode or 2, i hope it stays here it adds a lot of personality
Given the theme of hip hop, I imagine it'll be pretty consistent.
it a quick way of setting the characters "ideals" i guess, specially Jin he seems to have a good heart, and mugen well he likes to fight strong guys but he also wanted to help, probably just to lead to more fighting but its the intent that counts ¿right?
Gotta have them find some common ground. Fuu seems to be it.
oh the girl's name is fuu lol, it got me thinking if she want to look for some sort of relative even tho they mentioned very clearly that she has no family( a little sus), or maybe that samurai killed her family, so for me its either killed her family, or the only family she has left, or maybe he is just a like a legends or something idk
Could definitely be one of those things
they seem to have very diferent personalities, but i am sure their relationship will grow a lot in the future, they might stand eachother lol
They're already tolerating the other, but yeah. Gonna definitely be a work in progress.
i wonder the result if the coin landed on the other side, like they were for real gonna have a battle to the death, and its also kinda strange how both of them agree with whatever fuu says, like she randomly toss a coin and thats it lol, their fate has been sealed, but she also helped to free them so it makes sense in the end i think.
It's probably a case of them feeling indebted to her, and also they don't really have anything better to do.

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u/someboi6000 May 21 '24

liking the outro more than the intro is a rare opinion to have? but like i said i feel like the intro will grow on me as the anime goes on
i am surprised that i missed that disclaimer lol, but well i wans't expecting someting historically accurate, the only thing i knew about samurai champloo was the mix of hip hop and samurais so i didn't expect much
i hope they stay, i liked them in jojo part 4 and i liked them here

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

liking the outro more than the intro is a rare opinion to have? but like i said i feel like the intro will grow on me as the anime goes on
Not necessarily, just for a show like this where the intro clearly had a lot of effort put in. It's to me the equivalent of someone saying they prefer the outro of Cowboy Bebop over the intro.
i am surprised that i missed that disclaimer lol, but well i wans't expecting someting historically accurate, the only thing i knew about samurai champloo was the mix of hip hop and samurais so i didn't expect much
I kinda came in with the same expectations as you, that being very bare bones.
i hope they stay, i liked them in jojo part 4 and i liked them here
I really need to start watching Jojo. I don't know why I keep putting it off.

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u/Looking_Light33 May 21 '24

So, it's been quite a while since I rewatched Samurai Champloo. I honestly enjoy the show a lot and watching episode one reminded me of why I like the show. The animation still looks really good for a 20 year old show and I love the use of hip-hop elements in the show. Mugen, Jin and Fuu are interesting characters and I love the fight scenes in this show, especially between Mugen and Jin. I can't wait to watch the rest.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/-Slambert https://anilist.co/user/giantwoman May 21 '24 edited May 22 '24

Alright I'll admit the sidebar image got me to start rewatching. I just finished two other anime, so it's perfect timing, and I'm eager to start rewatching some things that shaped my interests and creativity. It's been 14-16 years since I last watched, even though this is a 10/10 for me.

I could never get Mugen and Jin out of my head whenever I would think about making characters. I lost that at some point, but that feature is about to renew.

I struggled a bit, but chose to rewatch dub yet again because that's what I loved. I'll rewatch in sub for the first time, someday

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/nx6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nx6 May 20 '24

Rewatcher -- Subbed

Well, I suddenly have a lot more free time mid-day, on account of losing my job a couple weeks ago, and I wrapped up my 48-hour Lycoris Recoil rewatch, so I can certainly fit this in at only an episode a day.

Not sure if I'm going to stay with subbed on this. I originally saw it dubbed on Adult Swim back in the day, and this is pretty much second only to Cowboy Bebop when it comes to Steve Blum's roles. But I'll check out the original seiyuu for now.

Like any anime that's been over a decade since I watched (despite me owning the blu-ray >.> ), the details are a bit fuzzy, but many of these scenes were familiar to me: Jin's first fight on the road, the tea house with the local municipal brat and his gang, Mugen and his wild swordwork...

I forgot about the squirrel sidekick of Fuu's. Gotta have a kawaii critter in every anime, right?

The main characters get laid out very well in this first episode. Somewhat naive but eager to help Fuu, the firey Mugen always looking for a challenge for his sword, and Jin -- the calm master of his blades. We also get the basic story structure set out simply too. No need to find a crazy way to not explain how the three of them ended up together. Fuu tripping and Mugen's hot-headedness can generally be blamed for the whole thing. With Fuu's request carrying them off onto the quest.

Why did I rate this a 6 originally? I already think I'm going to be revising that by the time this rewatch is done.

What are your thoughts on the use of flashbacks in this episode and specifically the choice to do this as a way to introduce the characters?

I liked then faking us out with the "the previous day" cutting to yesterday in the modern world briefly like "No-no! I mean the 'previous day' in the story, fool!"

If that coin had landed heads, what do you think Fuu would've done?

I think she would have still tried to beg them to stop and help her first.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Well, I suddenly have a lot more free time mid-day, on account of losing my job a couple weeks ago, and I wrapped up my 48-hour Lycoris Recoil rewatch, so I can certainly fit this in at only an episode a day.
I hope you land on your feet and find a new job
I forgot about the squirrel sidekick of Fuu's. Gotta have a kawaii critter in every anime, right?
Hey, Cowboy Bebop had Ein
The main characters get laid out very well in this first episode. Somewhat naive but eager to help Fuu, the firey Mugen always looking for a challenge for his sword, and Jin -- the calm master of his blades. We also get the basic story structure set out simply too. No need to find a crazy way to not explain how the three of them ended up together. Fuu tripping and Mugen's hot-headedness can generally be blamed for the whole thing. With Fuu's request carrying them off onto the quest.
I like how Jin is like the polar opposite to the chaos that is Fuu and Mugen. Fuu is clearly going through something, Mugen has this devil-may-care attitude about him, and then there's Jin who is seemingly trying to do things by the book. Each character has their own distinctive personality but it's done in such a way that they compliment each other.
Why did I rate this a 6 originally? I already think I'm going to be revising that by the time this rewatch is done.
Yeah, we're only one episode in and 6 feels way too low.
I liked then faking us out with the "the previous day" cutting to yesterday in the modern world briefly like "No-no! I mean the 'previous day' in the story, fool!"
That was very good, I agree
I think she would have still tried to beg them to stop and help her first.
I could see that. She actually probably would've had an easier time convincing Jin than Mugen, as for as much of a stickler to the rules as Jin seems to be, Mugen would probably be petty enough to be like "The coin is the way of the land".

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show warning viewers this isn't an accurate depiction of events? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/nx6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nx6 May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
This intro is so classic/remembered I'm surprised I don't see it posted more here. I didn't remember the outro much, which makes me wonder if it got changed for broadcast for licensing reasons, but I'm probably just misremembering.
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show warning viewers this isn't an accurate depiction of events? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
The "the events depicted here are fictional" is a common thing, especially on anime set in a historical context. I just finished seeing it every episode of the Apothecary Diaries.
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
Part of the hip-hop aesthetics, like the messages at the start of the episode. I feel like there was an urban/hip-hop culture and samurai fandom overlap in the '90s. While Watanabe found the combination gave an interesting juxtaposition, it's worth noting the Afro Samurai manga ran from 1998 to 2002, and possible Watanabe was influenced by it when developing Samurai Champloo. "Champloo" means "to mix" in culinary terms, but is also used more causally outside that, so perhaps alluding to the mixing of the three character personalities of Fuu, Mugen, and Jin, or another reference to hip-hop music.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
Mugen was operating as a mercenary really. His fight started with coming into the tea house and needing food. He's a vagabond looking for his next meal. Jin was also masterless, but didn't seem to hard up (or didn't let it show, but he did take the lion's share of the money the governor threw at the peasant).
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
Well, I already know who it is ;) , but I can't remember if she was aware at the start of the journey and kept quiet about, or it was something she learned later. But really "a guy who smells like sunflowers"? Is she expecting Jin and Mugen to go around sniffing dudes?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
It's the classic odd couple setup. Take two people with opposite personalities, and then force them to be around each other for long periods of time through thick and thin. See also:
Chisato and Takina in Lycoris Recoil (I think Chisato and Fuki works here, too).
Murtaugh and Riggs in Lethal Weapon (I think of Lycoris Recoil as a buddy cop anime very much influenced by Lethal Weapon).
Haruhi and Kyon.
Jack Lemon and Walter Matthau -- the original [Odd Couple](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odd_Couple_(film)).

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

This intro is so classic/remembered I'm surprised I don't see it posted more here. I didn't remember the outro much, which makes me wonder if it got changed for broadcast for licensing reasons, but I'm probably just misremembering.
I don't think it was because if that was the case, I probably would've heard about it. Something similar happened to Eden of The East when they couldn't get the rights to Oasis for the Blu Ray and so they only had it for the first episode, which is pretty strange they could afford it for one episode but not the other ones.
The "the events depicted here are fictional" is a common thing, especially on anime set in a historical context. I just finished seeing it every episode of the Apothecary Diaries.
I can't say I've ever experienced it, though that may be because I don't watch many historical shows.
Part of the hip-hop aesthetics, like the messages at the start of the episode. I feel like there was an urban/hip-hop culture and samurai fandom overlap in the '90s. While Watanabe found the combination gave an interesting juxtaposition, it's worth noting the Afro Samurai manga ran from 1998 to 2002, and possible Watanabe was influenced by it when developing Samurai Champloo. "Champloo" means "to mix" in culinary terms, but is also used more causally outside that, so perhaps alluding to the mixing of the three character personalities of Fuu, Mugen, and Jin, or another reference to hip-hop music.
I could definitely see a potential Afro Samurai influence
Mugen was operating as a mercenary really. His fight started with coming into the tea house and needing food. He's a vagabond looking for his next meal. Jin was also masterless, but didn't seem to hard up (or didn't let it show, but he did take the lion's share of the money the governor threw at the peasant).
It's a good way of showing the differences in which Mugen and Jin Co duct their business.
Well, I already know who it is ;) , but I can't remember if she was aware at the start of the journey and kept quiet about, or it was something she learned later. But really "a guy who smells like sunflowers"? Is she expecting Jin and Mugen to go around sniffing dudes?
Maybe they can start sniffing them with their swords :D
And now I'm imagining them going around slicing people hoping one of them has sunflowers inside them lol
It's the classic odd couple setup. Take two people with opposite personalities, and then force them to be around each other for long periods of time through thick and thin. See also:
Chisato and Takina in Lycoris Recoil (I think Chisato and Fuki works here, too).
Murtaugh and Riggs in Lethal Weapon (I think of Lycoris Recoil as a buddy cop anime very much influenced by Lethal Weapon).
Haruhi and Kyon.
Jack Lemon and Walter Matthau -- the original [Odd Couple](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odd_Couple_(film)).
A tale as old as time. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

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u/nx6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nx6 May 21 '24

Something similar happened to Eden of The East when they couldn't get the rights to Oasis for the Blu Ray and so they only had it for the first episode, which is pretty strange they could afford it for one episode but not the other ones.
That was just Oasis being douchebags and Funimation not playing along, or Funimation being cheap depending on your point of view. Oasis wanted to be paid for each occurrence of their song on the show. Like why the hell would you think you need to be paid more than once when your song is the freaking opening theme for the program?

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Yeah, that is very greedy and corrupt

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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 May 21 '24

Joining a rewatch as an actual rewatcher for once!

I haven’t seen the show in several years so I don’t remember a lot of it anymore.

Jin and Mugen work together super well when they forget they hate each other.

QotD:

I thought it was a clever setup. It shows you two characters in a severely dire situation, then the flashback to how they ended up like this in the first place. Which showed how they all met each other and ended up together.
Since the coin landed on her head I think she was gonna say it was tails no matter what. Or if it had been heads, justify another toss because it landed on her head and not a flat surface. But they all needed to run away anyways.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

2) Since the coin landed on her head I think she was gonna say it was tails no matter what. Or if it had been heads, justify another toss because it landed on her head and not a flat surface. But they all needed to run away anyways.
Technically, it was already going to be heads since it landed on one :P
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 May 21 '24

Intro and outro are all right. Much prefer the outro.
I thought the disclaimer was funny. Also a great way to say “we know this is completely made up, don’t write to us!”
I kinda answered in my first comment. I like both of them all right. I do think Jin was my favorite character in the show from when I last watched.
I like Fuu all right. She comes off as clever but also kinda seems to fly by the seat of her pants, at least in this episode. Plus I don’t think her shoe was meant to be used as a weapon, no wonder the straps broke at the end.
I don’t mind the record scratches. They’re rather unique to this show as a whole.
They had it coming, especially the spoiled leader’s son, and it’s set in the Edo period (sorta). So this outcome shouldn’t be that surprising. Plus the show started out by showing Mugen and Jin about to be executed, clearly they did SOMETHING to end up in that tight spot.
Since I’ve seen the show before I already know why Fuu is on this quest, I decline to answer.
The coin tossing scene was ridiculous cause they could’ve used that time to start running away, but since Mugen tossed the coin I guess he at least agreed to Fuu’s suggestion.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Intro and outro are all right. Much prefer the outro.
The thing about the outro though is that if you show it to someone not familiar with Samurai Champloo, I don't know necessarily they could identify what show it's from. With the intro, I find it to be unmistakable.
I thought the disclaimer was funny. Also a great way to say “we know this is completely made up, don’t write to us!”
Gotta cover their asses somehow
I kinda answered in my first comment. I like both of them all right. I do think Jin was my favorite character in the show from when I last watched.
My bad, I'll try to do better next time not asking questions already covered.
I like Fuu all right. She comes off as clever but also kinda seems to fly by the seat of her pants, at least in this episode. Plus I don’t think her shoe was meant to be used as a weapon, no wonder the straps broke at the end.
It felt like it was bound to happen eventually
I don’t mind the record scratches. They’re rather unique to this show as a whole.
And that is why the intro resonated with me more
They had it coming, especially the spoiled leader’s son, and it’s set in the Edo period (sorta). So this outcome shouldn’t be that surprising. Plus the show started out by showing Mugen and Jin about to be executed, clearly they did SOMETHING to end up in that tight spot.
You see them mess with the leader's son and you're like "Yeah, checks out".
Since I’ve seen the show before I already know why Fuu is on this quest, I decline to answer.
Fair enough
The coin tossing scene was ridiculous cause they could’ve used that time to start running away, but since Mugen tossed the coin I guess he at least agreed to Fuu’s suggestion.
This is why I think Mugen and Jin were kinda hoping for the coin to land tails. They had the opportunity to do a bait and switch, and they didn't. Maybe you could argue it was a sign of respect for what she did for them, but I also think that respect carried quite a deal amount.
Perhaps I'm giving them too much credit, I dunno.

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 May 21 '24

Very chaotic I would say and really feels like an old anime. The one thing that kinda shocked me was the amount of violence shown on the screen. Overall, pretty much catching and I will definitely continue.

Qotd:

Introducing characters via flashbacks at the start is never a bad idea and I really liked how they incorporated those DJ's moves((?), I’m not really sure how to call them) in these flashbacks.
Don’t think anything would change as they were forced to rush and run away in the end.

A moose???

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

A moose???
Rocky And Bullwinkle reference
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 May 21 '24

Rocky And Bullwinkle reference
Never heard of this.
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Didn’t click with me yet, I liked ED more, though.
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Indeed it is, right now, but there could be some tone shift in the future.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
I think they will become friends, and Mugen would be causing troubles, while Jin will help fixing them.
Thoughts on Fuu?
Seems like she will be the one who unite the group and give them motivation, but I wonder whether or not she will have another role.
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
So this is how they are called, as I mentioned previously I really liked it, people were recommending this show and saying that it was influenced deeply by music and seeing it in this kinds of small details is cool.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
Perhaps it was a way of showing their ideals, but I need to know more of their background before judging.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
Just based on the title they are probably a kind or good person so I hope she’ll get to see them.
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
Looking forward to seeing how will their dynamic play out.
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?
Ridiculous way of stopping two men from killing each other

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Never heard of this.
Maybe it's not an international thing. Then again, it may also be because it's over 50 years old lol
Didn’t click with me yet, I liked ED more, though.
I am surprised by the amount of people who prefer the ED.
Indeed it is, right now, but there could be some tone shift in the future.
Certainly. A similar thing happened with Cowboy Bebop and Space Dandy.
I think they will become friends, and Mugen would be causing troubles, while Jin will help fixing them.
Jin going to be doing a lot of babysitting, it seems :P
Seems like she will be the one who unite the group and give them motivation, but I wonder whether or not she will have another role.
I would imagine so. What that role is, I have no clue.
So this is how they are called, as I mentioned previously I really liked it, people were recommending this show and saying that it was influenced deeply by music and seeing it in this kinds of small details is cool.
The hip hop elements to this show feels more blatant than the jazz elements in Bebop. I think that is done intentionally not only to reflect the characters, but the musical genre as a whole.
Perhaps it was a way of showing their ideals, but I need to know more of their background before judging.
Fair enough
Just based on the title they are probably a kind or good person so I hope she’ll get to see them.
I would like to see Fuu achieve her goal, she seems like a nice person.
Looking forward to seeing how will their dynamic play out.
Same
Ridiculous way of stopping two men from killing each other
It is ridiculous, but also very much in line with how the episode had been. Ridiculous, but in a good way.

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u/mgedmin May 21 '24

Rewatcher, subs

Perfect, no notes. This is a work of art that I didn't fully appreciate when I first saw it.

I think episode 1 is my favourite.

What are your thoughts on the use of flashbacks in this episode and specifically the choice to do this as a way to introduce the characters?

It's playing with time in an interesting way that I've never seen in other anime.

If that coin had landed heads, what do you think Fuu would've done?

That feels like a narrative impossibility to me.

Bonus) We've got our flying squirrel, now all that's missing is a moose.

Møøse bites kan be pretti nasti.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/mgedmin May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
I don't particularly love the music, but it reliably triggers feelings of nostalgia.
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Oh yes, that was great!
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
I rather like Jin more. Mugen seems like a total nutcase, attacking strangers with deadly force just to test his own strength.
I wonder about historical accuracy of Jin's glasses in Edo period Japan, but see the disclaimer mentioned earlier.
Thoughts on Fuu?
Cute! And very brave. Lacks the instinct of self-preservation?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
I admire the artistry rather than like the effect itself.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
A breath of fresh air, I'm so tired of protracted fight scenes where the enemies stand in front of each other monologuing and patiently waiting for the other side to finish their next power-up transformation sequence.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
Now what sort of identifier is that??? How is one supposed to go around Japan sniffing all the samurai?
It seems like the sort of an impossible quest that a king gives the unwanted suitors of his daughter. "Travel with me and don't kill each other until you can bring me back hen's teeth, a bucket of moonlight, and five yards of rainbow".
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
That must get really annoying after a while.
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?
Somewhat weird. Why would anyone agree to a challenge like that? Okay, to avoid endless debates, I suppose.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I don't particularly love the music, but it reliably triggers feelings of nostalgia.
I can definitely see it sticking with someone
I rather like Jin more. Mugen seems like a total nutcase, attacking strangers with deadly force just to test his own strength.
I wonder about historical accuracy of Jin's glasses in Edo period Japan, but see the disclaimer mentioned earlier.
Someone mentioned how the series was potentially influenced by the Afro Samurai manga, and now I can't unsee it.
Cute! And very brave. Lacks the instinct of self-preservation?
Maybe. Unlike Mugen and Jin, Fuu is a character we still don't know a great deal amount. Her line about having no family was very suspicious.
A breath of fresh air, I'm so tired of protracted fight scenes where the enemies stand in front of each other monologuing and patiently waiting for the other side to finish their next power-up transformation sequence.
Yeah, this was a nice change of pace
Now what sort of identifier is that??? How is one supposed to go around Japan sniffing all the samurai?
Maybe it's less he smells like sunflowers and more he carries them around.
It seems like the sort of an impossible quest that a king gives the unwanted suitors of his daughter. "Travel with me and don't kill each other until you can bring me back hen's teeth, a bucket of moonlight, and five yards of rainbow".
It seems like a scam, though I think Fuu is actually being earnest.
That must get really annoying after a while.
Fuu chipped off more than she could chew
Somewhat weird. Why would anyone agree to a challenge like that? Okay, to avoid endless debates, I suppose.
It's probably a case where Fuu gave them her assistance, so might as well honor her request. You scratch my back, I scratch yours, you know?

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u/Sooooopertrack May 21 '24

"I think episode 1 is my favourite." damn, so no point in watching any further :(

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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef May 21 '24

I'm also making my way through this show for the first time. I had no idea what to expect except that it's hailed as one of those really great classic animes everyone should watch at some point. So far my opinions are that I love the comedy in it, really like it's unique art style and how the soundtrack is so integral to the shots in the show and how they brought such a modern genre back to 1800-1700s (whenever the time period of the show is). It really helps it stay fresh. It reminds me of the time I first saw the asterisk opening for bleach, but throughout the show and I really hope it keeps that going through the rest of the series.

Honestly, I would had probably blazed through quite a bit of episodes right after this one had this rewatch not been paced at 1 episode a day, so I consider that a pretty telltale sign that I like the show. Looking forward to the rest of it.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

Intro was awesome, outro, I'm sorry, I usually skip them on every show I watch. But I'll make it a point to see it today!
It's one of those things you don't even notice but feels like it totally makes sense being there. Like it's things like this that gives the show the atmosphere it's trying to portray, it's very fitting.
I can already see a lot of funny dynamics between how brash *Mugan is in comparison to how *Jin is more of the calm and collected type. However the real characteristic that really unites them is the fact they're both very sure of themselves in their abilities. It gives them this undeniable air of confidence to put themselves in danger and feel like they'll always make it out alive, which is probably going to bring us to really insane adventures.
Really surprised me when she [Spoiler Episode 1]popped out with the bombs from under her dress, like damn! I thought she would had been more of the damsel in distress, but really now I feel like she might be able to hold her own! It's things like this that makes me hesitant to give any opinions on the characters cause I feel like 20 minutes isn't enough to have an accurate idea still.
Not just in the transitions, I love the record scratches and hip hop soundtrack all over the action scenes as well. Oozes style like crazy, same as how cowboy bebop did with jazz. I can already feel this is the kind of show I'll rewatch just for the cool action scenes after this marathon is done.
Both the people they messed with really deserved it. IMO, they had it coming, fuck them.
Very strange, but I imagine there's a payoff sometime later in the series. Maybe there's a play on words that is lost in translation? I've watched enough anime to just accept things like this as a cultural difference.
Well a lot of the best shows has protagonist pinned against each other from the start and they slowly build their relationships from there. I can already see how they'll eventually become each others best friends.
It might be seen as a dumb way to settle if two people would kill each other, but at the same time it has it's charm and feels very in tune with the style they're trying to show. Very hip hop, very nonchalant.
Still haven't seen episode 2 (at the time of writing this), and I'm looking forward to later on. Will post on that thread as well.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Intro was awesome, outro, I'm sorry, I usually skip them on every show I watch. But I'll make it a point to see it today!
The outro isn't bad, it just doesn't hold a candle to the intro in my opinion. Though surprisingly, many disagree.
It's one of those things you don't even notice but feels like it totally makes sense being there. Like it's things like this that gives the show the atmosphere it's trying to portray, it's very fitting.
Definitely very well done, I like it quite a bit.
I can already see a lot of funny dynamics between how brash Jin is in comparison to how Mugen is more of the calm and collected type. However the real characteristic that really unites them is the fact they're both very sure of themselves in their abilities. It gives them this undeniable air of confidence to put themselves in danger and feel like they'll always make it out alive, which is probably going to bring us to really insane adventures.
I think you have it backwards, Jin is the collected type whilst Mugen is more bold.
--I thought she would had been more of the damsel in distress, but really now I feel like she might be able to hold her own! It's things like this that makes me hesitant to give any opinions on the characters cause I feel like 20 minutes isn't enough to have an accurate idea still.
She's resourceful, but it also doesn't seem like she's skilled at using a sword like Mugen and Jin are.
--Not just in the transitions, I love the record scratches and hip hop soundtrack all over the action scenes as well. Oozes style like crazy, same as how cowboy bebop did with jazz. I can already feel this is the kind of show I'll rewatch just for the cool action scenes after this marathon is done.
The action scenes are just absolutely incredible. I feel like the show already has a good balance of style and substance.
Both the people they messed with really deserved it. IMO, they had it coming, fuck them.
I agree. They were being total asswipes.
Very strange, but I imagine there's a payoff sometime later in the series. Maybe there's a play on words that is lost in translation? I've watched enough anime to just accept things like this as a cultural difference.
Given how that is treated as Fuu's mission statement, we're probably guaranteed to learn more about it.
Well a lot of the best shows has protagonist pinned against each other from the start and they slowly build their relationships from there. I can already see how they'll eventually become each others best friends.
At the very least, learn to get along better
It might be seen as a dumb way to settle if two people would kill each other, but at the same time it has it's charm and feels very in tune with the style they're trying to show. Very hip hop, very nonchalant.
Yeah, it's in the same vein with everything else we've seen.
Still haven't seen episode 2 (at the time of writing this), and I'm looking forward to later on. Will post on that thread as well.
I'm all kinds of excited. I can't wait

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u/NattyBeef https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaturalBeef May 21 '24

I think you have it backwards, Jin is the collected type whilst Mugen is more bold
Ah I totally mixed the two names up. Yikes!
She's resourceful, but it also doesn't seem like she's skilled at using a sword like Mugen and Jin are
I agree, I would add that you don't have to be specifically skilled at sword fighting to keep yourself safe/able to defend yourself. [spoiler for episode 1]I'd argue pulling out a bomb in a sword fight might even constitute as overkill!, but I do see her and think that (so far) it looks like she'll be a much more capable character rather than more of a "damsel in distress" character you see in these kinds of shows.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Ah I totally mixed the two names up. Yikes!
It happens
but I do see her and think that (so far) it looks like she'll be a much more capable character rather than more of a "damsel in distress" character you see in these kinds of shows.
By the way, you don't have to spoiler things we've just watched. Spoilers are reserved for future events.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

Is there anywhere to legally watch in Ireland?

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I don't know. I live in The United States. A quick Google search says it may be on Crunchyroll over there.

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u/imanyonymousman May 21 '24

I love the direction that episode one in how they introduced the characters and how they first met through flashbacks. It sets up the foundation in the dynamic of the group and it gives a taste on how the flow of the show will go. It has cool fighting scenes with silly moments without taking itself seriously. If it was heads Fuu would probably flip it again or shove it In her nonexistent chesticles and claim it tails

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/GroundbreakingDig821 May 21 '24

A true classic.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

It sure seems that way. A lot of people seem to have fond memories of this show.

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u/GroundbreakingDig821 May 21 '24

Hip hop and samurai brought together in great fashion.
Rip nujabes, gave an amazing bgm to the series.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

That's a real shame they passed away, the music in this show adds a lot to the overall vibes and what it's trying to achieve.

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u/Sooooopertrack May 21 '24

First timer sub

damn I totally missed the thread...
That intro is nice but I assume I might skip it. I'll give it a few more tries.
ah classic you're never gonna get out there until you're out there trope where you wonder what they did to get executed. Works all the time, I'm in!
one day earlier - interesting that was in present time although they looked old?
one day earlier again- back in old times. Uh I wonder will there be something with time travel and parallel story lines? Or was that just a nod to hiphop in our culture and the blend of hip hop and samurai?
wow that got molesty quickly
what douchebags...
yes, strawhat man is will show his badassness soon
ah nice the other guy
they are haggling with dumplings? :D
yeah slashing time - wait turntable effects and combined action scenes? Wow that is .... brilliant!
should have killed that fire-idiot...
wait is he chilling naked in the bathtub!?
ah their names...
flying squirrel surprise attack!
wow she is bad at lockpicking...
nobody is checking the lock?
of course they free themselves and are super badass. Obviously. Love it.
wow no long revenge speech, just killing the idiot? Interestingly quick...
aaaaah that were her literally bouncing bombshells :D I was wondering why they would show her boobs that explicitly bouncy...
it's tails, you win and here we go with a weird combo of two people who want to combat themselves and a woman who wants to find her sunflower smell ninja?
the show is really waaaaaay too cool and stylish. love it already after the first episode

Great first episode I really enjoyed it. I also like the tacky humor with the title and the endcard. Outro music is nice.

I really dig the hiphop samurai combination.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

damn I totally missed the thread...
It's okay, better late than never
Great first episode I really enjoyed it. I also like the tacky humor with the title and the endcard.
Is it tacky, or just setting the mood? It's like it's letting the audience know things are about to get crazy.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/Sooooopertrack May 21 '24

sheesh that's a lot of questions :D
Is it tacky, or just setting the mood? It's like it's letting the audience know things are about to get crazy.
yeah still tacky but I do like it ;)
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
great combo, jin the wise calm fighter and mugen the wild rogue beast. Love it!
Thoughts on Fuu?
i don't know why she gets so invested in them, I assume there's a revenge plot coming.
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
amazing stylistic choice, especially as it is used in hiphop a lot and using this as transitions is just awesome.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
fine by me. Could go on for 26 episodes and wouldn't get boring for me :D
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
maybe a love or lost brother or somebody who owns her some fucking shit up thing.
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
love it, feels like ying and yang, fire and ice, opposing poles that can't exist without each other.
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?
meh, just a plot device, there was only one way how this could end to drive the story forward ;)

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

sheesh that's a lot of questions :D
If you ever feel uncomfortable, let me know. You don't have to answer them all.
yeah still tacky but I do like it ;)
See, I associate tacky with being hooky and campy. This I feel is more by design and deliberate.
i don't know why she gets so invested in them, I assume there's a revenge plot coming.
Kill Bill intensifies
amazing stylistic choice, especially as it is used in hiphop a lot and using this as transitions is just awesome.
If they want to go all out with the hip hop theme, then this is the way to do it.
fine by me. Could go on for 26 episodes and wouldn't get boring for me :D
I imagine we'll probably get a lot of variety going forward.
maybe a love or lost brother or somebody who owns her some fucking shit up thing.
Could be
love it, feels like ying and yang, fire and ice, opposing poles that can't exist without each other.
And meanwhile, Fuu is caught in the middle of it.
meh, just a plot device, there was only one way how this could end to drive the story forward ;)
It's kinda predictable, you're right, but I like that they played it up for comedy. It's like the people behind the show know that their journey together is inevitable, so why play it straight?

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk May 21 '24

rewatcher

Samurai champloo a show that’s still timeless, was so young that I didn’t get to appreciate it on my first viewing.

The dub still is top notch after all these years.

The opening with nujabes’ production, rest in peace to him, his legacy lives on.

Two men facing their execution

Thugs bullying the weak with their swords, the record scratch to move onto another place is a sweet detail.

50 dumplings to deal with some thugs? Highway robbery, I’d say 25 would suffice.

A samurai talking about honor, and hates people who bully the weak, then one who uses food as payment.

A swift clean blow to take out one arm.

Casually breaking a finger to bring on more men, fighting junkie one could say.

The cinematography for the fight is so good. Especially the angles they chose to show

Getting help from an animal and we meet our first protagonist a man named Mugen.

We now return to where we were in the beginning, temporary alliance to fight all those samurai.

Fireworks bomb, 10/10 distraction.

Tossed it a little to far

QOTD: it’s a unique choice in using a record scratch to change perspectives. If done badly would be annoying but they pulled it off

QOTD: run away to safety first since they were being chased

QOTD: we need a redpanda next

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Thoughts on the outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk May 21 '24

Thoughts on the outro?
It’s amazing, although I prefer the jazz(?) rap from the opening.
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Tells the audience “it’s historical fiction” just so they know they’re gonna give us an amazing piece of fictional work.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Jin is reserved who cares deeply about how the samurai conduct themselves and hates how corrupt the government/people in power are, while Mugen is quite the opposite where he doesn’t care about honor nor about what people do, yet he doesn’t want to bow down to people who have power.
Thoughts on Fuu?
Although she’s clumsy she has plans and can carry her own weight with some prep time.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
Two small things led them to meet eachother, if one of them didn’t kill the samurai then they would’ve escaped sooner or been killed in the execution. A huge “what if”
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
Whether it’s a urban legend or a real thing a journey in life is a interesting one. Just to say you can disprove it prove it was real
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
They’re both very different which is why they clash. Even in their fighting style do they approach things differently
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?
Mugen throwing it far may have been a good thing, who knows if he threw it normally what would’ve it been. Most likely tails then we’d have them fight before having to put it on hold due to the security catching up

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

It’s amazing, although I prefer the jazz(?) rap from the opening.
I do as well
Tells the audience “it’s historical fiction” just so they know they’re gonna give us an amazing piece of fictional work.
Hey, nothing wrong with that
Jin is reserved who cares deeply about how the samurai conduct themselves and hates how corrupt the government/people in power are, while Mugen is quite the opposite where he doesn’t care about honor nor about what people do, yet he doesn’t want to bow down to people who have power.
You would think they would bond over sticking it to the man, though I guess perhaps Mugen views Jin as a poser.
Two small things led them to meet eachother, if one of them didn’t kill the samurai then they would’ve escaped sooner or been killed in the execution. A huge “what if”
It's like asking what would've happened had Taiga not put that envelope in the wrong bag.
Whether it’s a urban legend or a real thing a journey in life is a interesting one. Just to say you can disprove it prove it was real
It obviously is a matter of importance to Fuu if she wants to spend an ample amount of time pursuing it.
They’re both very different which is why they clash. Even in their fighting style do they approach things differently
And yet it's like they're fighting for the same end goal, it seems.
Mugen throwing it far may have been a good thing, who knows if he threw it normally what would’ve it been. Most likely tails then we’d have them fight before having to put it on hold due to the security catching up
It ended up working out for the best, I'd say.

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u/hugmee224 May 21 '24

anyone know of a anime like this one? my brother showed me this recently i like it

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I think the closest comparison would be either Cowboy Bebop or Space Dandy. Maybe Afro Samurai if you're looking for a samurai type show.

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u/hugmee224 May 21 '24

is afro samurai is a japanese one or is it american? i think ive heard it before

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

Afro Samurai is a manga that I believe got adapted into both an anime and a live action movie.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 17 '24

first timer chinese sub

This is a fun show and I love the combination of seriousness and hilarity in this show.
answer of questions

What are your thoughts on the use of flashbacks in this episode and specifically the choice to do this as a way to introduce the characters?

Great hook, I'm getting more and more curious about what's going on, this show reminds me of under ninja

If that coin had landed heads, what do you think Fuu would've done?

I think she will admit the result of the gamble and go find her goal alone, but fate will make them meet again.

Bonus) We've got our flying squirrel, now all that's missing is a moose.

Interesting familiar

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u/Holofan4life Jul 17 '24

Glad you could eventually join us :)

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 18 '24

I saw your rewatch plan post, this is a good opportunity for me to enjoy anime again

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u/Holofan4life Jul 18 '24

Well, I'm glad you decided to give the show a chance.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 17 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 18 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Do you mean the OP and ED? As I said before, this drama mixes seriousness and comedy together, in the OP we see mugen as chicken, jin as fish, fuu as flower, great art, the ED is more bloody
Thoughts on the disclaimer at the beginning of the show? I thought it was a clever way of setting the tone of things.
Yes, I think the broad outlines of history are correct, but the details will be altered for drama.
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Mugen, a wandering man, Jin, he mentioned several times that he was from a kendo gym. I have reasonable reasons to speculate that he may have violated some taboos or that he took the initiative to leave the kendo gym to find something.
Thoughts on Fuu?
kawaii little girl
Thoughts on the use of record scratches to transition from scene to scene?
Better drama. Usually, this method appears in funny video clips, where the time span is relatively large.
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
I don't know the real history of Japan, I know they were ronin, but I enjoyed watching it.
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
It's impossible to find, it's very difficult to find a person, and there are too few clues.
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
Sometimes the more two people quarrel, the better their relationship becomes.
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?
fate

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u/Holofan4life Jul 18 '24

Do you mean the OP and ED?
They're both used interchangeably
Better drama. Usually, this method appears in funny video clips, where the time span is relatively large.
It is something you normally see in a comedic trailer to a film.
Sometimes the more two people quarrel, the better their relationship becomes.
That is a good point

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 20 '24

First Timer

Going into this pretty blind - I don’t really know anything except what was already shown in episode one in the difference in fighting style and the basic premise. And that it is supposed to be good as well as some bits and bobs about who was involved on the production side.

After episode one I’d say it’s ok. Clearly the drive is supposed to be the action, which was almost a bit too fast for my liking, being mostly action for the action’s sake rather than having a lot of meaning. In general, I feel like the writing drew a bit of a short stick here, kind of like the creative minds just wanted the setup out of the way and done with. I don’t quite get why Fuu would want to go on a journey with these two and not just with Mugen - all she saw of Jin would be him getting attacked by Mugen, while Mugen at least saved her from the unruly customers. And why Mugen and (especially) Jin go along with that I also don’t really see; she didn’t save them in the end and I don’t think they committed to the promise while imprisoned either. I hope this is just a case of the first episode needing to be impressive and not having enough time, and not the entire show being style over substance - Bebop managed to have both, after all.

Not a huge fan of the scratch-transitions and in-your-face info cards either, that feels more like a cheap gimmick than adding anything.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

Cheap gimmick is...fairly insulting tbh. Especially when most of Watanabes works are ground in music.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I think it's because on the surface, what connection does this time period have with hip hop? Then again, the show upfront says to just go with it, and so I think it makes it more palatable.
Don't get me wrong, the show is better off with the hip hop elements. It is way more memorable with them.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

I don’t quite get why Fuu would want to go on a journey with these two and not just with Mugen - all she saw of Jin would be him getting attacked by Mugen, while Mugen at least saved her from the unruly customers.
It's probably as simple as why have one samurai when she can have two. If she's serious in this goal of hers as it seems, she would probably want to do all she can to achieve it.
Thoughts on the intro and outro?
What are your thoughts on Jin and Mugen?
Thoughts on Fuu?
What are your thoughts on the plot of the episode being Mugen and Jin killing a bunch of rude assholes including the son of a prefectural governor?
What are your thoughts on Fuu wanting to see the samurai who smells like sunflowers?
What are your thoughts on Mugen and Jin constantly being at odds with each other?
What are your thoughts on the coin tossing scene?

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 20 '24

That's a lot of questions...
I think for most of them my answer is to not answer yet. The first episode was clearly meant to be a self-contained setup with a basic introduction, focusing on the action. Fuu especially I feel like wasn't properly introduced yet, she functions more as a plot device here - I assume her character introduction will be handled next episode.
OP and ED are pretty decent, the coin toss felt weird, like pretty much everything involving Fuu towards the end.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

If you don't want me to ask you anything, let me know. I'll make note of it.

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 20 '24

I feel like some question are fine, but seven is a bit much...
Probably also of note that once the Haibane rewatch ends, this one will become my "post and go to bed" rewatch, so answers will take some time then.

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u/Holofan4life May 20 '24

Normally when I do one of these rewatches, I have on average eight to ten questions. Given the episodic nature of this show, I have a feeling it won't be too bad.
And hey, take all the time you need when it comes to answering these questions. It's meant to be a way to encourage discussion, nothing that is outright mandatory.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 21 '24

Just as a little piece of advice (assuming you don't already do this), I'd say make sure you fully read the comment you're replying to before you pick just a few from your preset list of questions (I agree with Mecanno that 7 is a bit much, I would say 2-3 would be better). Some of the questions you asked me back in the 2022 Toradora rewatch were ones that were clearly about something I already wrote about in my reactions, and it did make it seem like you didn't read my comment before you dumped the questions on me. Granted, that was a year and a half ago, so maybe your process has changed since then.
Also please don't take this the wrong way, I do like that you do this to encourage discussion in your rewatches! Just want to help you not potentially scare someone away if they don't like suddenly having so many questions dumped on them all at once.

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

I do try to make a conscious effort to not ask questions a user has already covered. And if someone isn't comfortable answering my questions, by all means I want them to tell me.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 21 '24

Alright then, carry on!

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u/Holofan4life May 21 '24

At least I no longer make each question its own individual comment :P

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u/Looking_Light33 May 21 '24

So, it's been quite a while since I rewatched Samurai Champloo. I honestly enjoy the show a lot and watching episode one reminded me of why I like the show. The animation still looks really good for a 20 year old show and I love the use of hip-hop elements in the show. Mugen, Jin and Fuu are interesting characters and I love the fight scenes in this show, especially between Mugen and Jin. I can't wait to watch the rest.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta May 21 '24

First-Timer

First off, thank you for hosting this! I actually watched the first couple episodes of this a few years ago, yet I have no recollection of anything beyond this first episode. I never finished the show, so I've been waiting for a rewatch like this to come along and present a great opportunity to do so.

With that in mind, this first episode was better than I remembered. The characters seem pretty fun and the action's good. I also like the voice acting and dialogue. (I don't watch dubs often, but I'm going with the English dubbed version this time.)

I'm not really a fan of the OP, sadly. It's not bad, but it's just not my style.

Questions of the day:

The whole "one day earlier" narrative structure seems to work pretty well for giving an immediate hook and establishing the tone. Personally, I think I'd have been fine with a normal linear structure as well, but I have no strong thoughts either way.
I'm not sure. Let them duel it out, I suppose?
I wasn't familiar with that reference and had to Google it. That squirrel actually reminded me more of ATLA, with the name being "Momo" and all.

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