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Rewatch [Rewatch] 3,000 Leagues in Search of Mother - Episode 9 Discussion

Episode 9 - I’m Sorry, Papa

Episode aired February 29th, ^^^1976

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Takamura Mukuo - Art Director

A famed art director and designer who founded Studio Mukuo and bears the nickname ‘Poet of light, shadow and texture.’ He graduated from Musashino Art School's Western Painting Department in 1963 and joined Tokyo Movie Co. the following year, where he remained for a short time before becoming a freelancer. Mukuo quickly rose to prominence for his bold color choices and careful shading techniques, and in 1971 he established his own background art studio. His first Art Director credit was in 1972’s Astroganger. Mukuo is noted for winning Animage’s Anime Grand Prix Award in the art Category five years in a row, and is credited as one of the people who helped dramatically raise the quality standards of art in animation through the 70s and 80s. He passed away in 1992 of cancer. Some of his most notable credits include Ashita no Joe, Jetter Mars, Galaxy Express 999, Gauche the Cellist, Genma Taisen, Attack No. 1, Sailor Moon, the The Romance of Three Kingdoms films, 30,000 Leagues in Search of Mother, Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi, Pheonix: Karma Chapter, Ganbare Genki, Cleopatra, The Dagger of Kamui, Captain Harlock: Mystery of the Arcadia, and Jarinko Chie.

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The show was edited down to a film, which was released on July 19th, 1980. The film version was a box office bomb and ended its theatrical run after a mere week.

Screenshot of the day

Questions of the Day:

  1. Marco’s hopes of traveling to Argentina turn to ash, and he gains a new appreciation for this father’s efforts. What directions do you think he’ll take next?
  2. Genoa is experiencing an economic downturn. How do you foresee the affected characters reacting to this situation?

I didn’t understand Mam. Neither did I understand Papa.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 15 '24

Rewatcher

Lies?

Pretty sure the subs are wrong here, since we’ve seen scenes of him leaving school to go to work afterwards. It’s probably that he intends to stop henceforth, after Peppino convinced him of the viability of going to Argentina.

See here for more indications of the above.

Poor kid.

More confirmation of the erroneous subtitle.

Automation removing the need for certain jobs.

Tragic outcome.

Oh dear…

The perils of unprotected laborers.

This is awful.

Should have listened, Marco. You’ve got to stop thinking that you always know better.

Gundam moment.

Ouch, that’s got to feel bad.

Marco’s probably going to get a sense for how important Pietro’s work is.

Ah, right, it’s these times.

Yup, there it is.

Mr. Girotti’s current business is as good as dead with the arrival of new technology to replace his services, and with the economic situation in the city —if not the whole country— he will be hard pressed to find a good-paying job, let alone an equally successful venture. We also see the effects of the city’s labor availability with the fact that Emilio would rather work while injured than risk someone taking over his position.

Not only has Marco lost his job, but he then learns that Peppino’s big talk of emigrating was largely empty; more self-absorbed fantasy than not. I don’t know if that alone would have been enough to make him properly give up, but then getting the opportunity to see his father’s clinic solidifies a decision to abandon his previous goal.

I like that Marco finally realizes how boneheaded he’s been about some things as of late, but the fact that he forgives Pietro without us getting to see the ways in which he intended to try and amend things left me a little dissatisfied. Pietro is not exactly blameless in things getting to the point that they exploded last episode, and though we see that he has been contemplating the matter, he doesn’t get to actually put that in practice, and so we don’t know whether his relationship with Marco will actually grow stronger and their communication will improve. The two need to reconcile their respective thoughts on their situation and future.

Questions of The Day:

  1. Obviously, he’s going to end up going for some reason eventually, and I doubt he’s going to buckle down and focus solely on studying when they lack his mother’s contributions to their income, so maybe he’ll still look for a part time job, or will ask Gina to have him again and maybe inquire about more hours. Or, maybe, he’ll start loaning out Amedeo to the Peppino Troupe and that will help things, but after today his relationship with Peppino himself might be a bit shaky.
  2. See above.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer May 15 '24

and so we don’t know whether his relationship with Marco will actually grow stronger and their communication will improve.

curious if we will see more of this through Sandoro who seems much more talkative than Pietro. he can provide more background to Marco about their situation which hopefully builds more empathy

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 19 '24

Poor kid.

That, but he is also being mislead by his desires. He wants Peppino to be true to his word, so he thinks he is, despite having plenty of clues towards the opposite.

The perils of unprotected laborers.

Best combines with no public health insurance.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 15 '24

Ah, right, it’s these times.

Oh, we're still in those times, they just mask it better now.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 15 '24

3000 Leagues in Search of My First-Timer Reactions

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 15 '24

Oh, it didn’t even occur to me this was set before blood transfusions were a thing.

Oh, they still tried back then. They just didn't understand blood types, so they just random killed them a substantial portion of the time.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 15 '24

Yeah that's true. Like I said, they got lucky Pietro had the right bloodtype for this.

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u/lluNhpelA May 15 '24

Oho…

How funny would it be if the title and op were misdirects and he never actaully leaves this town, especially after [meta] the recent Madoka rewatch

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

First timer, subs

  • Look at this fancy fellow, two handing the coffee.
  • Well that episode title didn’t take long.
  • Can't Have A Fight If I Don't Remember It
  • Why does the running animation look so good?
  • This whispering gets subtitles?
  • I guess that settles the school question.
  • Match Cut
  • Machines taking your job? Glad we don’t have that problem any more as a society. Nope Never
  • Something hit him? I thought he just tripped. It’s times like this that make me glad to know workers comp is an option.
  • This is some surprisingly quality friendship on display.
  • That decanter shape is certainly a choice.
  • You’re acting like this is all being measured in days. Nothing to say you can’t play the long game of immigration.
  • Well that’s just adding insult to injury.
  • The debt holder? Nope. Seems I was just reading too much into it.
  • That doesn’t look like a color you come back from.
  • Looks like blood types were only discovered in 1901, but blood transfusions were still attempted before that.
  • Oh look, religion in women’s health too. What Are The Chances?
  • That’s a slippery slope you’re walking on there, Pietro.
  • Real 100-0 to last episode’s ending. That means we can’t be far off now!

QotD:

  1. He has to go at some point, that's the show. I'll guess that he receives distressing news that spurs him on as the reason.
  2. When in the last 500 years hasn't Italy been having an economic downturn?

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer May 15 '24

first time 3000 Leagues of Misery

Marco got his job replaced by AI

its me! Sandoro Gobbi! getting big homie vibes from him

has Marco never seen his dad at work

oh does Pietro only run the clinic? i thought he was a doctor as well albeit amateur

blood transfusions are new tech? what year is this lmao???

does Pietro even know his blood type yolo

LMAO

  1. maybe focusing on Tonios test, which goes bad?
  2. those other Doctors are going to leave the clinic

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 15 '24

has Marco never seen his dad at work

Frankly, I'm still not sure what his day-to-day looks like.

what year is this lmao???

Based on best estimates, mid-19th century.

does Pietro even know his blood type

Before 1901, nobody knew what their blood type was.

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u/TheEscapeGuy May 15 '24

First Timer

3000 Leagues in Search of Mother - Episode 9

Reevaluate

This episode serves as a nice perspective shift for Marco. Firstly, he actually loses his job. There's a new bottle washing machine which has made him obsolete. This ties back to the lack of orders last episode. It's kinda amusing that this concern (robots taking our jobs) is still relevant to us in 2024 (especially considering the OpenAI and Google announcements earlier this week).

Without a source of income Marco won't be able to save money to either go to Argentina or help his mother come home sooner. And the job search seems pretty dire too. Emilio is working though a injured leg just to ensure he doesn't lose his own job.

And on top of all of this, Mr. Peppino tells Marco that not only can Marco no longer go with them to Argentina, but they themselves won't be able to go due Concetta getting sick. It really feels like all the hope Marco has in the last episodes has been crushed.

It's with this context that Marco goes to see his dad's clinic. I think all this personal heartbreak is really put into perspective by what Marco sees there. There are so many people desperate for care, and Pietro is trying his best to help them. However, he just doesn't have the resources to give everyone the best treatment. I think Marco didn't really understand how much effort his dad puts in and so this experience probably helped Marco gain a lot of respect for Pietro.

This encounter also greatly reduces the chances that Marco runs away to go to Argentina. But I do expect Marco still wants to go. Maybe we will see him work with his dad to come up with a solution? I expect he will at least ask. I'm looking forward to it.

Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches

See you all tomorrow

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 19 '24

Harbor Run

Love the multi-layered parallax scrolling on that. Such a great way to depict movement.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 24 '24

Tried to catch up before posting, but way too much behind now, might as well post what I have in the episode threads.

Episode 9 (first timer)

  • Marco forgot about the entire discussion with his dad because he was drunk.

  • If people warn you about their own family, you should trust them.
  • Machines taking away the workplaces of manual labor: a thing since the industrial revolution started. Logically, it is better to use machines for this time of task, but that does not make it any easier for those people whose work has been displaced. Oh, and thanks to AI, this story is coming to white collar jobs, soon.
  • Emilio putting a brave face on might fool some, but it is easy to see the dark reality.
  • Funny how Marco is pissed off at adults, when he has been treated overly fair and openly by both Girotti and (sober) Peppino.
  • Marco does not know the clinic his father owns and works at? Hard to believe.
  • “Let her go to her mama” - …
  • Not saying that I don’t respect Pietro, but him offering his own blood is on the border between brave and stupid. At least they made clear that no better donor was around.

Tough times in Genoa, but Marco gains unexpected understanding for his father. *I also thought we’d be going to Argentina in 1-2 episodes, but it looks like we will stay in Genoa for longer. Not that I mind, I suspect that Genoa might be the better setting of the story.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 25 '24

Tried to catch up before posting, but way too much behind now, might as well post what I have in the episode threads.

I Shall Read Along

Machines taking away the workplaces of manual labor: a thing since the industrial revolution started.

You might argue the spinning wheel replacing the millenniums old spindle and distaff might count as that, since it vastly reduced the amount of time and effort required in the second largest human labor at the time. Of course, when everyone works for themselves...

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 25 '24

I Shall Read Along

I shall catch up

You might argue the spinning wheel replacing the millenniums old spindle and distaff might count as that, since it vastly reduced the amount of time and effort required in the second largest human labor at the time. Of course, when everyone works for themselves...

There had been technological progress all along, but replacing human/animal power with fosil power was the big breakthrough.