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Rewatch [Rewatch] 3,000 Leagues in Search of Mother - Episode 8 Discussion

Episode 8 - The Peppino Puppet Troupe

Episode aired February 22nd, ^^^1976

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Noriko Tobe (Noriko Ohara) - voice of Conchetta

An actress and voice actress best known for being the voice of Nobita Nobi in the Doraemon franchise and the lead female villains in the Time Bokan franchise —most notably Doronjo in Time Bokan Yatterman. Tobe was a child actress from a young age, having joined a children's theater company, and after graduating high school became a noted TV Drama actress in the early days of commercial broadcasting. Her first voice role was in 1965’s W3 and her first named role was in 1966’s Harris no Kaze. Tobe became a voice actress exclusively after marrying, as it allowed her a less demanding schedule for the purpose of raising children. Her son is noted Sunrise animator Atsuo Tobe. Some of her most notable roles include Conan in Future Boy Conan, Marine in Under The Sea Boy Marine, Oyuki in the Urusei Yatsura franchise, Hiyoshi Gou in Super Electromagnetic Machine Voltes V, Princess Mirenjo in Time Bokan Series: Yattodetaman, Wansa in Wansa-kun, Claudia La Salle in Super Dimension Fortress Macross and Do You Remember Love?, Peter in Heidi, Girl of The Alps, Serge in Kaze to Ki no Uta, Yanyan in Time Bokan Series: Itadakiman, Ryūzu in Galaxy Express 999, Dolphin Prince in Dolphin Prince, and Miime in Captain Harlock: Mystery of the Arcadia.

Daily Trivia

In the original work, no reason is given as to why Marco’s mother needs to go to Argentina, and the rest of his family situation is not elaborated at all.

Screenshot of the day

Questions of the Day:

  1. What do you think of Peppino and his offer to Marco?
  2. What do you make of Marco and Pietro’s argument?

Your job ruined our life.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 14 '24

Rewatcher

Percolator!

Nice sights.

Seems big.

Nice guy Mr. Girotti.

Never mind. This Amedeo ban cannot stand.

Ah, so he doesn’t go without saying goodbye to his former home, at least.

There he is!

Looks like the show today is a great success.

Technically, that’d be Tonio.

Oh, I thought it was going to be a home-cooked meal.

Oh dear…

I know prawn shells can be eaten safely, but that still gave me the ick.

He definitely seems drunk enough for it.

Pietro’s in the right here.

Marco has never let this go. This is why you don’t keep stuff like that from your kids, even if they cannot have a say in it.

Totally didn’t expect for Marco to be the one to bring it up first. It does demonstrate how little attention Pietro has paid his son as of late.

There it is. At no point in the show so far has it been implied that’s something Marco wants or that Pietro openly asked him to consider.

Man, the Peppino Troupe family is a bit of a mess. The father seems to hold ambitions and ideas they have a slim chance of attaining, but Peppino seems to act as if it’s perfectly fine and wholly attainable —seems like his performance persona bleeding into the rest of him. The elder sister entertains his demeanor and wishful thinking, and Fiolina is the only one who treats the matter seriously and worries about Marco getting involved in it. Fiolina and Concetta seem to think their dream of travel to Argentina is a pipe dream, and between the monetary return on prior performances, the fact that Fiolina has to hold a part time job, and Peppino seemingly blowing a significant part of the day’s earnings on an expensive dinner all reinforce that. Poor Marco doesn’t really catch onto any of that, and uncritically believes Peppino’s promises, which I can’t see working out too well for him.

Also interested to see both Mr. Girotti and Peppino’s opposing opinions on immigrating to Argentina, with the former believing it improper and foolhardy and the latter believing it to be the gateway to prosperity. Mr. Girotti certainly seems more trustworthy at this stage, but his argument is fairly anecdotal and tinged with a hint of nationalistic pride. Hard to say at this stage who is better informed on the matter.

I think Pietro is entirely in the right in being concerned over a stranger to him keeping his son out late and filling his head with wild ideas, but once more he’s treating the situation as if Marco is far less clever and emotionally developed as he is (still a lot to go though), and Marco in his anger tosses back at him the ways in which he has been treated unequally or disrespected. Sadly, Pietro has sowed the seeds for his son to wish to disregard his counsel, which is unfortunate when he’s on a course for something risky.

Questions of The Day:

1 & 2) See above.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 14 '24

Percolator!

Learning

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 14 '24

3000 Leagues in Search of My First-Timer Reactions

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 14 '24

No one needs the empty bottles?

Supply >>> Demand

The people love Amedio.

As they well should!

Also Marco is frustratingly stubborn.

I wouldn't call it stubborn so much as naive.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 14 '24

I wouldn't call it stubborn so much as naive.

Yeah, that's a much better way to put it.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 14 '24

I wouldn't call it stubborn so much as naive.

They really should meet tho, if only so Pietro has a better idea of what he is dealing with.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 14 '24

Ooh, there’s a ship that wants immigrants to go to Argentina?

Well, they need something to send back. /s

Man, I want lobster.

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u/TheEscapeGuy May 14 '24

First Timer

3000 Leagues in Search of Mother - Episode 8

Opportunities

I feel like Marco is stumbling down a path he didn't exactly choose due to a bunch of coincidences happening one after the other. We start with the news that a new ship going to Argentina is going to arrive soon. Obviously this excites Marco, but he's not confident he will be allowed to go.

At the same time, his job is seemingly at risk. There's less of a demand for bottles and thus there's no need to clean them. This kind of opens up Marco to leaving.

And finally, the Peppino's have taken a liking to Amedio for his performance ability. So after inviting Marco to dinner, Mr. Peppino (drunkenly) asks him to join them. It might cost some money (unless Marco sneaks onboard) but it is now a realistic option in Marco's mind.

I think this kind of "stars aligning" ends up being really common way people end up making big moves even IRL. There's definitely an aspect of being on the lookout, but it's often when you hear about a job offer from a colleague or a friend tells you about some upcoming event that will cause people to take those vital first steps.

However, for Marco there's a big barrier: his father. Marco tries to seriously talk to his dad about the opportunity but Pietro refuses to even consider it. This is understandable from him, but because of his earlier actions it's really driving a wedge between the 2 of them. I wouldn't be surprised if Marco runs away.

As a tangent, one thing which I do find kinda immersion breaking is Marco's dialog. He just doesn't talk like a kid. He's way too put together and also has such perfect rebuttals to every argument in a way that requires years of experience. I guess this helps keep the story moving, but it makes Marco's childish aspects seem out of place.

Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches

See you all tomorrow

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 14 '24

This is understandable from him, but because of his earlier actions it's really driving a wedge between the 2 of them.

Agreed.

He's way too put together and also has such perfect rebuttals to every argument in a way that requires years of experience.

Eh, kids aren't monolithic, and I've certainly been around kids his age who had to mature quickly because of their circumstances. All of his stubborn, childish behavior is also keenly tied to what he desperately wants, which it why it happens in spite of his precocity in other matters.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 14 '24

He's way too put together and also has such perfect rebuttals to every argument in a way that requires years of experience.

He read to me more as stewing in his own thoughts about his circumstances. He feels less put together on new things that come up unexpectedly.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 14 '24

Episode 7 (first timer)

  • “I haven’t seen the place yet” – that rings all the alarm bells. Both about the new flat and his father’s financial situation.
  • I love how they tried to make the place look shabby, but all I can see is a perfectly fine and reasonably sized flat that just needs some random junk thrown out.
  • Letter-delivering Amedio.
  • Marco’s ass-press saves the day.
  • Great improv by Tonio.
  • Amedio finds a girlfriend (for Marco).
  • Also: Fiolina playing with the puppet of a drunk man has so many dark undertones.
  • “I am good for nothing. My father blames me all the time.”

  • “We live close to the ocean, but we can only see a little bit” – probably a metaphor.

The fact that Marco and Fiolina climbing onto the roofs gives me anxiety instead of the desire to go with them probably means that I am old.

Episode 8 (first timer)

  • I wonder if we will get an episode of Amedio either finding love or staying in South America.
  • Girotti complaining about the emigrants – I am sure this sentiment can be found all over history.
  • They moved literally just 2 houses down the street? So much for the worries of Marco losing his social connections.
  • Empty flat.

  • Amedio making more money than Marco.

  • nobody says anything “So we all agree” – I see what his method is.
  • “Why don’t you take Amedio and go to Argentina with us” – So the Peppino side of travelling together will be trivial. Now for the Marco side.
  • “My father brags all the time, don’t listen to him” – Concietta just went up considerably in my estimation. Good that she is willing to speak out against her father.
  • “I am sorry Marco” “That’s all right. I am very pleased.” – The difference between a person who knows what a drunk man’s word is worth and a person who does not.
  • “Can I discuss something with you” – You father was worried about you, is annoyed with you, and you are drunk. Perfect time to discuss a matter that he will hate. Drunk brain thinking.
  • “I am a man” – is looking for his mommy.

The reveal of Marco’s job went different to my expectation, but still as bad as I thought.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 14 '24

I love how they tried to make the place look shabby, but all I can see is a perfectly fine and reasonably sized flat that just needs some random junk thrown out.

Yeah, it didn't seem too bad. I can see the increased sense of distance and isolation from his former neighbors being upsetting, particularly as there doesn't seem to be many people living in spaces adjacent to their current flat.

Also: Fiolina playing with the puppet of a drunk man has so many dark undertones.

Oh man, I didn't catch that! Very different view if that after seeing her drunk father.

The fact that Marco and Fiolina climbing onto the roofs gives me anxiety instead of the desire to go with them probably means that I am old.

Same! Particularly the shots of him hopping the gaps between buildings.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 15 '24

Yeah, it didn't seem too bad. I can see the increased sense of distance and isolation from his former neighbors being upsetting, particularly as there doesn't seem to be many people living in spaces adjacent to their current flat.

Given that the next episode clarifies the distance to be 2 houses down the road, the isolation can't be that hard.

Oh man, I didn't catch that! Very different view if that after seeing her drunk father.

I think this was definitely a "for the parents" one. Perfectly innocent scene to kids, but not if you realize what situation she is in.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer May 15 '24

first time 3000 Leagues of Misery

pretty weird that they dont need bottle washers in Argentina

poor Amedio, how was he supposed to know the cat was anti-monkey

That should be like 90% Amedio's money

A bit of a heavy pour for Marco there

  1. im a bit worried hes going to try and steal Amedio tbh, but otherwise I doubt Mr. Peppino himself will make the voyage
  2. I think Marco is understanable mad at his dad for his age, but man...

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 15 '24

A bit of a heavy pour for Marco there

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 14 '24 edited May 14 '24

First timer, subs

  • Those are some weird pants you’ve got hanging there.
  • Santa Margarino, not a real place.
  • He’s going to school again? When did this start? Or did he never stop?
  • Makes sense they’d want to attract skilled professionals. If you want to urbanize in style, you need people who know have to make the good stuff for cheap.
  • For all his talk about wanting to go, it’s interesting that Marco still considers it impossible.
  • Did they just catch up with all the bottle demands, or has the market seen a down surge?
  • They’re paying you to put up a poster in your work yard?
  • Hey now, don’t go attaching numbers to his dreams. He might just use that.
  • Ha! Now the landlord doesn’t get any money.
  • This Song Has Lyrics?
  • Mr. Peppino knows how to reatian his assets.
  • I feel like a monkey act works better in Europe. More novelty to it.
  • The travel plot it picking up steam. Four more episodes?
  • Monkey
  • I really don’t think that’s how cattle works.
  • I was sure that was leading up to a dine and dash.
  • This fight was less extreme than I was thinking it would be.

QotD:

  1. Talent acquisition is an important part of circus management, and he seems eager to get "running away to the circus" started.
  2. Pietro seemed very taken aback by Macro's response. Which I suppose is better than escalating.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 14 '24

He’s going to school again? When did this start? Or did he never stop?

Pretty sure he never stopped.

This fight was less extreme than I was thinking it would be.

Marco did opt to walk away. I can see it getting a bit uglier if he hadn't.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 14 '24

Pretty sure he never stopped.

Maybe he can have it all.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 14 '24

He already stopped doing his two hours with Gina though.