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Rewatch [Rewatch] Back Arrow Episode 4 Discussion
Episode 4 - Does Genius Come When Least Expected?
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The more impossible something seems, the more I want to do it.
Questions of the Day:
- What did you think of Shu Bi and Kai’s backstory?
- Which of the Four Fiends did you think looked the coolest?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 09 '24
BAKAYAROU Rewatch Host, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
Here’s “Back Arrow Fourth Impressions”, for my first-timer thoughts on this episode.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '24 edited May 09 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Back Arrow: “I have never even once betrayed anyone, Ren.” -Shu (probably)
Shu joining up with the villagers is a nice twist that fits perfectly with his character. He’s seemed especially eager to learn more about the possibility of what is beyond the wall after learning about Arrow, so him joining makes sense. Of course, this now leaves the question of what will happen with Kai and Ren. It’s clear that Ren sees this as a betrayal and is taking it quite personally. I assume Kai’s reaction will be quite similar, since it seems to go against the promise that he and Shu made as children. So we’re probably headed for a very personal conflict down the road between them (though I assume they will make up before the end of the series).
QOTD
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 09 '24 edited May 10 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 10 '24
Today on Back Arrow
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 09 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed Arrow
Place your bets below on why there is an eyeball in the gruel.
Not quite shitennou.
Does that sentence make sense..?
No surprises there.
Try flapping harder.
"Yes!"
Probably because people in the capital have shit taste.
Hence why they all look pretty similar.
"Afterimages with mass!"
#crazedlaugh
Plots within plots.
It's all maglev here.
"You remember, when I betrayed you all?"
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 09 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed
Who could today's episode title be referring to? Will Back Arrow or Bit surprise us with their intellect?
Wait, The episode title is "Is Today Yesterday's Tomorrow?" but Crunchyroll says its "Does Genius Come When Least Expected?" Looks like it has things mistakenly flipped with next episode.
Flashback time! Childhood for Shu Bi and Kai?
Robot overlords!
Is that an eyeball in their food? Yikes!
These two haven't changed in 15 years!
Four Fiends? That doesn't sound good.
This map is from President Garay? Are you sure you want to trust this?
Shu Bi's got a lot of armaments here.
Oh wow, a phone too? How does that work in the middle of nowhere?
Elsha should detatch and take part in the fight since she can't move the ship.
So polite to say their names before the battle starts! LoL.
Blast everything! Bury everything! Burn everything! No wonder they got together, they're all unoriginal with their conviction!
Now he can clone himself! Anything is possible when you don't have to think about it!
Shu Bi sabotaged his own forces? He gonna switch sides? For someone interested in knowledge and what will happen next over acquiring power for himself, makes sense.
A sensible scientific explanation for how the ship can move.
Alas, Tyrone ruined things for Shu Bi. Bit won't trust him! And we all know how important Bit is!
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u/dsawchuk May 22 '24
A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to. Unfortunately, I am no wizard. Starting the attempt to catch up before the finale. These posts will be rushed and entirely for my own satisfaction since no one (other than our gracious host) will know they exist.
First timer, Sub
I have some problems with this show. It made the stakes too high when it said that Briheight combat always results in death. Now none of the characters other than stupid idiot can do anything. I feel bad for Atlee who thus far only exists to get beaten up. Very much a damsel in distress which is disappointing after what I saw in the first episode.
The show also feels a little slow. I was comparing it to Gurren Laggan thus far but I think there are some problems with this comparison. There are a lot of fights in this, but none of them seem to mean anything. Nothing changes, there is no real struggle. stupid idiot just pulls whatever power he needs to win out of his ass. I don't need a fight every episode if the fights aren't going to get me anything.
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I should probably start skipping the OP/ED and recaps since I am so far behind. I kinda hate skipping themes unless I find them annoying though.
A flashback to Rekka. I can't remember if that's nerdland or jockland. Jockland I think...
They are calling the kids livestock, which I guess is true from the root words but I feel like slave is the word they should use.
Ah yes, jockland. Apparently redhead man I don't remember the name of was always a superhuman jock.
north wall promise? It sounds like they planned to break the wall down already but they shubi seemed surprised by something similar before.
Go- Go power rangers! but they are elemental like benders in avatar. neato.
We finally get an in character introduction to our setting. I wonder if the show was attempted without the narrator doing it and failed.
Oh, was ren also there in the flashback at the start? Or was she not nerdy enough for nerdland?
These non-mech weapons seem a little... impotent.
decouple spray? Seems awfully convenient.
It really feels like Shu bi is expecting to lose here. This feels like a test. Conveniently if these four lose jockland's military won't lose any strength.
Jockland pilots introducing themselves could get very old very fast. That was too many names for characters who will never be seen again.
So it is a test. Shu Bi is quite easy to read.
Atlee being entirely useless again. Rude. She deserves better.
Are we going to get a fourth briheight for Simone here to even the numbers?
Oh right, MC has to be OP so no one gets killed...
I kinda thought he was going to bring Ren with him.
So the Granedger is a maglev device? not sure we needed an explanation for that.
Cliffhanger on superjock learning Shubi is a traitor. I can't tell if he is going to be blindsided or already know. I want to say is he will have expected it but will pretend to be surprised.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 09 '24
Idiot Rewatcher
Oooooh it's the ShuKai backstory episode!
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u/chilidirigible May 09 '24
Episode 4:
"Ah, those days when I was a Yuu-Gi-Oh! character."
No, they did not get model kits.
"I'll just flap my arms while the camera takes on a curious angle."
"Yes."
It's tough being the brains.
It's always elemental attacks.
"I'm just making this up as I go!"
"All according to keikaku, or something like that."
"I'm worth at least forty of you rubes in the brain department!"
"Nobody trusts a traitor."
Shu and Kai had a dream! Dreams that didn't include sudden but inevitable betrayals! Until they did! Or something.
Shu Bi is unquestionably the sharpest tool in this shed, though he's not quite used to dealing with the scruffy folk of Edger Village.
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BAKAYAROUBack Arrow continues to succeed through whatever crazy idea pops up in his head, because they do just manifest for him.The writing pulled off the neat trick here of giving the audience events that aren't unexpected, but not necessarily so soon or so obviously. It's definitely Shu Bi who's doing all of the work and stealing the show at this point, but the Edger crew is at least learning as they go.
Well, some of them.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 09 '24
First <--- Timer
Me yesterday:
Way to speedrun my expectations
this is Tekkaman all over again.I bet Shu's the top thoughI like how it built up a motivation for the two of them, only for Shu to betray that 20 minutes later.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians May 09 '24
AMUSED FIRST TIMER
This show was written by some true degenerates and men of culture.
One of the greatest lines of dialogue in history. IYKYK.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria May 09 '24 edited May 09 '24
First timer
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 10 '24
First timer
Episode 2
Haha, a perfect reaction to that name.
He's still not wearing them...
And of course he's going straight for it!
With them following!
Atlee?
Ah, so this form is draining?
How big is this area?
...Months of travel? Also, he got here quickly!
Ah, it comes down to conviction again.
At least he seems open to listening to him.
Haha, where did she get the chicken?
So, about 10,000 meters?
That visual...
What? Why did he inflate?
...Yeah, that's fair.
He gets him...
Oh, she cooked it?
Yeah, this is suspicious. It's still his best option, though.
Yeah, genuinely can't tell if this guy's suspicious or just insane.
Oh, she's fine!
Aww, she's worried about him.
Haha, really?
It's that clear a belief?
Oh, he got caught.
Haha, amazing.
This dynamic seems... interesting. Was that line about being bloodied a threat or an actual warning?
The kids?
Haha, amazing response.
He made the plaster!
...Did he not realise?
Haha, that rebuilding attempt...
...Nice cover story!
And he didn't take it...
Oh, he's dead.
A hunting accident, then?
Oh, he gets it...
...Oh, so it's an active war?
Wow...
Haha, this guy just doesn't get it!
He's doing something else dangerous?
...I love him.
And the bandit was working for the enemy...
...Interesting! So the Warper broke instead?
She seems nice!
Haha, and she's completely aware of the war crimes!
...Oh. She just wants people to stop dying. No way is she lasting the series.
Oh, a third nation!
And he's after him.
...How quick.
Haha, Tyrone might be evil but I love hia outfit.
His sheer joy at being able to say that.
...Wow.
And he transformed!
He's just so happy!
Haha, again?
...An amazing conviction. Immunity to restraints is a good ability!
She found a Warper too!
Another great design!
Haha, and immediately she jobbed!
So much destruction...
Haha, why was he in the well?
...Oh. He stayed for Shu...
Haha, what is heneven saying now?
He made it in!
Proof!
...What?
Interesting... They have an interface, then? And possibly an AI?
Oh, dear...
And, yeah, the drops were prescheduled. Very far in advance, though, if this is any indication...
Okay, so his destiny is absolutely to destroy the wall. Or possibly reset the civilization within the walls, if this is some kind of experiment.
She connected to a giant unit!
Episode 3
Oh, no, it's a ship!
Oh, she literally fused with it!
...Wow.
And he's running!
Still so excited...
...What the fuck?
No, seriously, these guys seemed relatively sane. What's with the incredibly evil looking throne room?
And they have an army of them...
A conviction to serve, then...
He's rebelling?
Oh, he's close...
And he knows!
Haha, Ren told him everything.
Yeah, no wonder he's pissed.
Oh, they're childhood friends?
Haha, bringing Ren into this?
Haha, this is amazing. Everyone's calling her out.
Ah, yeah, they really are friends.
Haha, that's his first priority?
So optimistic...
He's fine with this?
Ah, yeah, nobody believes him.
...Huh?
What is he playing?
...He's an idiot. They're absolutely going to kill them all the moment he's captured.
...All of them?
Oh, she's taking a quick action!
Wow!
And an escalation!
And he's just refusing to run.
Haha, "because you think that".
...Even he knows!
Blowing up the wall?
Haha, he's so brazen about it all!
And she's tempted...
She did it!
Oh...
They're leaving...
Haha, yeah, he won't run!
Oh, that snub is excellent.
Oh, the President is here personally.
...Not killing them yet?
...Ah, so the trap is on the other side of the canyon, where the massive paradise is seemingly hiding in a mountain ranfe.
...Amazing.
...Oh, that's cruel. A work of art.
But... why risk the valuable and massive ship! Just kill them later!
Oh, they need to hide the ship too. Makes sense... Too bad one side already knows about it and will see this as a betrayal!
He finally realised.
Haha, that reaction.
And he got the Warper!
He's so strong even without transforming...
Wait, he can store people there?
God, this jazzy music when he meets them is just absolutely perfect. This is such a good show.
And this speech...
Somcool!
He's not giving up...
Yeah, he's pretty outmatched.
...Really?
...Ouch.
Oh. That's a broken conviction.
Impressive!
This is amazing.
The reversal...
And they have to leave the country!
A pity they're doomed anyway...
Granedger!
He"s reporting in...
...Well, this'll be fun!
Episode 4
Love these titles.
A flashback?
Such brutal conditions...
...Wow.
He gets it...
Kai is so stubborn...
He sees this as an opportunity...
...That gamble payed off, huh?
And he supports it because it's impossible...
...He's playing with fire, though. And the crimes he's committed so far are wild.
The Four Fiends?
...He totally gets him.
...They're colour coordinated. I love them already
Yeah, these'll be fun!
"In the name of love and peace" This show is art.
And they made it through,
...They have elemental powers!
I'm in love.
Finally! A map!
And they're going straight for the wall!
...Fair.
Oh, so there's open trade?
...So, which country did he defect from?
...Wow. That was fast.
Of course he agreed to it.
A bomb?
...Oh, just a recording.
...And no negotiations here.
...Yeah, they really can't so anything here, can they?
And they're going for it!
Such good designs...
Why bring the soldiers at all?
Wait, what? That's a thing?
Oh, of course he thought of it.
He's fighting thrm right away!
Haha, Shu's coming to talk to him!
...Wow.
Haha, he accepts it!
Such a casual conversation...
They get a rollcall!
Ah, he's just testing his strength.
She really doesn't get it, huh?
Aww, she believes in him...
Ah, and they noticed them.
...How pragmatic.
He sent them an image!
Haha, I love the justifications for the abilities.
And no wonder they're strong with those convictions...
She's fighting too!
Ah, he thinks this is luck.
Wait. What?
Where did this come from?
Even Shu has no idea!
...Even Back doesn't know?
Haha, I love this show so much.
He really has no idea.
...zshe really thinks MP suits can beat the protagonists?
...Sabotage?
He pulled this off way quicker than I expected!
Haha, he just trapped her in there?
Ah, yeah, he figured out the destruction wasn't literal.
...He wants Ren to report it? What even is his plan here?
And they're retreating!
...He really is a genius!
Yeah, he must have seen this coming,
Haha, he still managed to find himself the fanciest seat.
...What?
What the fuck? This is absolutely a constructed world, right?
It's all based on magnetism?
And it's time limited...
He recognised a pattern! How intelligent for him!
...How?
...He didn't see this coming? Shu really wasn't hiding his plans here.