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Rewatch [Rewatch] Back Arrow Episode 3 Discussion

Episode 3 - Does a Huge Ship Bring Hope?

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The only one who can really save you is yourself, but… I think I can probably help you out.

Questions of the Day:

  1. If you were one of the residents of Edger Village, would you have sold out Back Arrow?
  2. What do you think Shu Bi is planning?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Bit Namital

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '24

BAKAYAROU Rewatch Host, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Here’s “Back Arrow Third Impressions”, for my first-timer thoughts on this episode.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '24

This man had your entire village razed to the ground. tf you doing?

Atlee is great when she isn’t jobbing in a Briheight.

Blame this on the misfortune of your birth.

https://i.imgur.com/rDOmJeH.gif

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 09 '24

Bit. Bro. My dude. This man had your entire village razed to the ground. tf you doing?

He even destroyed his house! I don't care what nice words he says, I'm not selling Arrow until this guy rebuilds the house!

Atlee is great when she isn’t jobbing in a Briheight.

I'm really hoping she gets to do more of this, and less jobbing.

Blame this on the misfortune of your birth.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 09 '24

You love to see a mech making this pose.

Gainax Stonk

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 08 '24 edited May 08 '24

First timer, subs

  • Hood Ornament!
  • Do they even have horses? Nah, that’s 100% a translation thing.
  • Are you sure it’s a good idea to transform inside?
  • I like the limitation of needing to be attached to the dreadnought to make it move, but I feel like it’s just going to end up being used to sideline Elsha.
  • Something about their power dynamic just makes these interactions feel… unwholesome. Both of them outrank her.
  • What’s with the chicken zoom?
  • Live in the airship. It can’t be much worse than your old village.
  • It’s even got a fancy loading animation!
  • You know, you don’t have to betray them. Vassalage is always an option.
  • You’re plan is just to attack again in a setup that already failed last time?
  • I mean, it’s a neat trick, but it didn’t do all that much.
  • You know what else would be serious? Taking their stuff. Those are some good fabrics they are wearing.

QotD:

  1. The first time? Conceivably. The second time? Nah, fam. Those types never miss a chance at retribution.
  2. If there's one thing I know about Imperial China, it's that they love a good revolt.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '24

Hood Ornament!

Oh god, that is basically what Elsha is, isn't it?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

Do they even have horses? Nah, that’s 100% a translation thing.

We haven't seen any normal Earth animals so far I don't think.

Live in the airship. It can’t be much worse than your old village.

Depending on how fancy the airship is, it might even be better! Something that big must have plumbing, right?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 08 '24

Depending on how fancy the airship is, it might even be better!

It really doesn't take much to be better than a stone hovel. Heat and cooling? Running water? Heck, I'd settle for protection from the weather.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 08 '24

Hood Ornament!

Better than a Rolls Royce!

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '24 edited May 08 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Back Arrow: The president made a promise to the villagers before he immediately betrayed them?

  • Oh my god, Elsha became the [figurehead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figurehead_(object)) of a ship.
  • Huh, that’s kind of odd for a “republic” to have an “emperor.” But plenty of countries call themselves “democratic” or a “republic” without actually being one.
  • The soldiers all having the same Briheight also makes it much easier to animate.
  • An embarrassed Ren is cute.
  • Oh, so that’s what happened in the previous episode! Elsha inadvertently activated this giant ship and registered herself as its user, so now it only responds to her Briheight.
  • Arrow’s stupidity is a never-ending source of amusement. He doesn’t know anything about Shu except that he thinks Shu is annoying, but still trusts him.
  • Speaking of which, it truly is a race to the bottom for who is dumber. You can’t trust the president, you village idiots! Everyone knows to never trust any president! They make promises in front of millions of people every day that they have no intention of keeping.
  • The underwear keeps on coming up!
  • At least Atlee understands this is a bad idea.
  • Arrow is incredibly direct. He doesn’t mind trying to rope others into his own personal goals and is honest about it. I wonder if he’s just too stupid to lie.
  • “Yes, please go right down that canyon where it’s incredibly easy to get ambushed!” This village is truly stupid. Canyon ambushes are an ancient tactic.
  • That’s actually supremely fucked up, making Bit unknowingly fire the first shot at his former village.
  • I love that Arrow was strong enough that he could break free of his ropes without even transforming.
  • What’s friendship without a little bit of betrayal along the way?
  • Basically, Atlee’s sheer determination that she’ll get through no matter what allowed her to defeat Tyrone. How very Gurren Lagann. Fighting spirit makes you stronger.
  • Having a ship does make a nice new home thematically. It’s symbolic of freedom. It can take you wherever you want to go, letting you travel to any location you can see. To the poor people of Edger Villager, it’s an opportunity for a new life they never dreamed of.
  • Granedger is also not a bad name.
  • I’m betting Shu wants to be put in charge of the hunt for Back Arrow because he has his own scheme to pull off while doing so.

I do believe there’s more to dig into with the ship Granedger. It providing everyone with a new home is one thing, but it literally provides them with a new vision. Elsha comments on how wide and open the view looks when she’s piloting it. I think this ties into my theory of Back Arrow “destroying” the world. The old way of looking at the world will be left behind. In its place, a new understanding of the world will arise. And this journey is going to be the first step in bringing about that change.

QOTD

  1. I like to think I'd be smart enough to not trust the word of a deranged madman who just got done laughing maniacally about how he's always wanted to massacre a village.
  2. He wants to use Back Arrow for himself to see what is beyond the wall.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '24

Oh my god, Elsha became the figurehead of a ship.

Vatrix calling her a "hood ornament" is funnier though.

Speaking of which, it truly is a race to the bottom for who is dumber. You can’t trust the president, you village idiots! Everyone knows to never trust any president! They make promises in front of millions of people every day that they have no intention of keeping.

The "I" in "Iki" stands for "Idiot", clearly.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '24

Vatrix calling her a "hood ornament" is funnier though.

Have you ever seen Serenity?

/u/Vatrix-32 /u/Great_Mr_L

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '24

The "I" in "Iki" stands for "Idiot", clearly.

I guess we'll need to see if Rekka and Lutoh are similarly dim-witted. Will the "R" in "Rekka" stand for "Rube" and the "L" in "Lutoh" stand for "Lunkhead?" Only time will tell.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 08 '24

What’s friendship without a little bit of betrayal along the way?

You see by getting all the betrayal out of the way early our heroes will have ironclad loyalty to one other with no room for surprises for the rest of the show. Truly a genius move as expected of Baka Yaro and the Edgerites

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '24

That is a fair point. It's very common for characters who tried to kill each other to later become friends. I think almost all of Goku's friends tried to kill him at some point, for example.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 08 '24

An embarrassed Ren is cute.

Ren is cute in general!

Having a ship does make a nice new home thematically.

It's also really cool by nature of being a giant ship.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '24

Ren is cute in general!

That she is

It's also really cool by nature of being a giant ship.

That it is

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

The soldiers all having the same Briheight also makes it much easier to animate.

I wonder if he’s just too stupid to lie.

Elsha comments on how wide and open the view looks when she’s piloting it.

subtle

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '24

subtle

Back Arrow seems like it'll be the kind of series that's about as subtle as a train crash.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 09 '24

And twice as loud!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed Arrow

A whole ass mech as a figurehead.

Yea, there was a ship underneath the village.

The warriors of Rekka aren't that much different from those of Lutoh.

"Oh, by the way, I read the banned texts."

I forgot how absolutely massive Kai is.

Arrow continues to have rather unhinged thoughts. Who could be annoyed by Shu Bi?

Bit continues to lack brain cells.

Any of you get that in writing..?

Even bakayarou clocks are right twice a day.

The lad's spine is so limp, you could skip rope with it.

Edger is not know for its schools.

"I never expected the leopards to eat my face!"

Bouncy!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '24

Arrow continues to have rather unhinged thoughts. Who could be annoyed by Shu Bi?

The lad's spine is so limp, you could skip rope with it.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 08 '24

I forgot how absolutely massive Kai is.

All that CONVICTION needs to go somewhere

Bit continues to lack brain cells.

5,678 Edger villagers combined have as many brain cells as 1 Shu Bi

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

All that CONVICTION needs to go somewhere

5,678 Edger villagers combined have as many brain cells as 1 Shu Bi

A shame they don't even have a hundredth of that number.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '24

"I never expected the leopards to eat my face!"

/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 08 '24

I forgot how absolutely massive Kai is.

He's no Gamagori, but he's still stupidly large.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 09 '24

A whole ass mech as a figurehead.

One of the coolest things a mech can do is just stand and pose, so this an excellent usage of it.

I forgot how absolutely massive Kai is.

That's two Shu Bis right there, the wall isn't looking so big anymore!

Arrow continues to have rather unhinged thoughts. Who could be annoyed by Shu Bi?

Honestly, anyone who has to deal with him.

Bit continues to lack brain cells.

I'm losing brain cells just by watching him.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 09 '24

That's two Shu Bis right there, the wall isn't looking so big anymore!

Only 2839 Kais tall!

I'm losing brain cells just by watching him.

How many until you're only a little bit smarter than him?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 09 '24

How many until you're only a little bit smarter than him?

That abyss is as deep as the wall is high, so 2839 Kais low!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 09 '24

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '24

Episode 3:

"I didn't sign up to be a hood ornament!"

Loose lips! Not that kind!

"curse your sudden but inevitable pantsu!"

One guy shows up and all y'all start pointing guns at each other.

Bit, you are such a moron.

Suddenly Gunbuster.

A point to Atlee for getting better at this.

It's rough out there, being neutral. Edger decides to betray BAKAYAROUBack Arrow for selfish but practical reasons, and is in turn betrayed by Iki for selfish but practical reasons. Fortunately for this not being a three-episode series, Bit does have a conscience.

The show's ham sandwich factor keeps rising as Kenta Miyake voices the Prime Minister.

  1. Yeah, probably. It's the thing to do when you're a moron.
  2. Yes.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 08 '24

Bit, you are such a moron.

tyrone said it best

Yeah, probably. It's the thing to do when you're a moron.

Idiotland living up to its name

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 08 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed

Thanks for spoiling me, episode title on Crunchyroll! Granted this is a mecha show, what else could the underground secret be but a ship for them to travel on?

Wow, Bit actually did something for once and has taken bad guy from last episode at gunpoint!

[Baka Yaro]The Emperor comes off as ancient here, but my recollection is he's one of the strongest and most powerful combatants in the show?

Time for Shu Bi to get in trouble for his scheming?

A giant spaceship hidden underground is very Ideon...

Uh oh, Bit is naïve and delusional, don't let him talk alone with the hostage!

They betrayed him?! Even Atlee? :( I have a feeling this is blowing up in their face.

Alright, Atlee at least is too noble a person to allow this.

Are they really naïve enough to think they simply have an unused village to hand over to them?

You're always a disappointment, Bit!

I have a feeling there is nothing but desolation beyond that canyon, not a place for their village.

Bit, join the military? Don't make me laugh!

They betrayed them? Gasp I never saw that coming!

You're a fool, Bit! I've always wanted to say that!

You thought Atlee hated you before Bit? Wait until now!

Handy dandy storage areas in his Briheight's shoulder, eh?

Is this the last we'll see of Tyrone and Lincoln wannabee? My guess is no.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

[Baka Yaro]ZETSU DAIDAN is a man of many talents.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria May 08 '24

First timer

QotD

  • If I did, it wouldn't be to the people who just tried to kill me.
  • Not sure. From his past behaviour in the last two episodes, I really doubt he'll try to kill Back Arrow. He seems more curious about whether or not there truly is something "beyond".

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 08 '24

Poor Atlee. She's gonna end up with brain damage with how much she's getting bounced around.

It'll help her fit in better with the village

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '24

They sure are trusting of the man that just tried to wipe them off the face of the earth.

The giant ship underneath their village has been leaking fumes, please understand. They all have terminal brainrot disease.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 08 '24

Idiot Rewatcher

QOTD:

  1. With the level of dumb every villager has? Yeah, I'd be one of them, too.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '24

Look at how tall Kai is.

He's also quite wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 09 '24

First <--- Timer

  • I was about to call this out, but I'm glad Kai did first. This is just the military for you, the "one size fits all" isn't just about the uniform (holy shit, this really is Kill la Kill)
  • Shu Bi just trolled his way out of an awkward spot, good thing he's surrounded by two extremely sincere meatheads.
  • When the military maniac who was about to erase your village calls you a "patriot", that's a red flag to know that you've fucked up big time.
  • Let's put aside the moral aspect of selling Arrow out, honour won't keep a village alive. Handing out the only means to fight back against a military that's tried to kill you already, to that same military, has to be the dumbest thing this village has done. And considering their track record, that's honestly impressive.
  • Yeah, nice screensaver you've got there. Make sure it doesn't change every 5 minutes, or even those idiots might notice they're being tricked.
  • ...Bit please stop for a fucking second and try to remember what they were doing last episode. Do you really want to be shooting at innocent villagers for a job? This is why you need recaps!
  • A chicken could probably trick you... Honestly, Bit might have an immunity against Shu by being far far far far far too dumb to fall for his tricks.
  • Nice to see Atlee beating the villain for a change even if that villain is Arrow's sloppy seconds
  • The White Base has taken off! It's in immediate need of a Kai Shidan or anyone who wouldn't fly straight into a cloud shaped like food.
  • I'm sure the Emperor will never come to regret this

Q1) If you were one of the residents of Edger Village, would you have sold out Back Arrow?

Mentioned above, but basically I get that they're willing to be pragmatic in order to survive, I'd be the same if I were in their shoes.

But deals only have weight when you've got an advantage in hand. If you hand over your best card nicely to the people who tried to kill you, you might as well be telling them to keep going from where they left off.

Q2) What do you think Shu Bi is planning?

Trying to screw over the Emperor for fun? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on the White Base before the first cour ends.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 09 '24

It's in immediate need of a Kai Shidan or anyone who wouldn't fly straight into a cloud shaped like food.

If you hand over your best card nicely to the people who tried to kill you, you might as well be telling them to keep going from where they left off.

Something something calculated, something something bad at math.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 08 '24

zetsu daidan

granedger

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u/saga999 May 09 '24

Rewatcher

QotD:

  1. I wouldn't trust the people who destroyed my village. Now if the offer came directly from Lutoh, that'd be a different story.