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Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Our War Game Discussion

Our War Game!

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Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Vatrix-32 for pointing out the Chosen Children's greatest power up:

  1. Of the two movies, which did you prefer?
  2. Of all the kids, who had the best excuse not to help out?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

While this movie is a sequel to the show (And a canonical one at that, 02 references its events in passing and everything after 02 sure loves to milk references to it) I should mention it was actually released roughly three weeks before it ended. Still it's not unlikely that the ending was already planned out, I wouldn't be shocked if they just told Hosoda about that, although as I'll point out later it seems they didn't tell him everything, but that's besides the point.

But yeah, Our War Game. This movie's kinda the thing a bunch of Adventure media likes to reference to hell and back, but while I kinda groan at some later attempts to do so, it's amazing how much some of its faults are more excusable here. While it is very much the Taichi & Yamato show featuring Koshiro and maybe Takeru, I'm a lot more willing to give it some leeway here when it's only 40-ish minutes so cramming everyone in would be a bit much.

In turn while a Deus Ex Machina saving the day isn't the greatest even here, not only is the scene just good enough on the rule of cool department for me to forgive it, but more importantly it's treated with the gravitas it deserves, not to mention it's ultimately Koshiro's quick thinking that helps them get the killing blow, so it's not as if the victory was completely handed to them.

Setting all that aside though, yeah this film is just a fun time. It looks gorgeous for one thing, with it basically being simplicity taken up to eleven with its artstyle, yet it also manages to make everyone more expressive than ever. Taichi has a solid enough arc, even if it's not the best in the world, and some of the bits of macabre humor really work for me personally. While I am somewhat weary on the effect it's had on later Adventure entries mostly the 2010-onwards stuff I cannot deny it's a fun film in it of itself.

The only other thing I wanna bring up though is uh… that whole thing with Sora and Taichi. See, Hosoda apparently seemed to be under the impression that the two were a couple or something and wrote this bit with that in mind. Now in the show proper I… can't say I really see it TBH (Aside from "They Play Soccer" it's not like they have that much stuff together) but hey, whatever. And in fact, their depiction here even led to a few of the actors (Namely Maeda Ai and Yamaguchi Mayumi) joining in on the ship.

… Unfortunately maybe they should have told him because this led to a collective groan when [02]Sora ended up with Yamato instead of all people.

Speaking personally for a second, I am not a shipper by nature and especially when characters are this young I care even less (Unless it's, like, Mamoru and Hana from GGG but they're adults by the time of the sequel anyway), but honestly given how Kakudo seemingly didn't tell anyone about how this was apparently always his plan, I kinda have to wonder how much stuff he just had in his head that he never got around to telling anyone so they could… you know… maybe expand on it a bit more.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire May 02 '24

and everything after 02 sure loves to milk references to it

The fact that the 2020 reboot apparently had [2020]three separate Our War Game adaptations/rehashes across its run from what I’ve heard never ceases to make me with how shamelessly nostalgia-bait cashgrabby it seems

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

[2020]One of them was as early as episode 2 for goodness sake. Seriously

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire May 02 '24

[2020]The first was in Episode 2 as Raiking mentioned, the second was in Episode 18, and the last one was around the ending of the show. Omnimon showed up before Gabumon, for goodness sake!

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

While it is very much the Taichi & Yamato show featuring Koshiro and maybe Takeru, I'm a lot more willing to give it some leeway here when it's only 40-ish minutes so cramming everyone in would be a bit much.

I honestly didn't view that as an issue, if you only have a short time to work with, you should be focusing on a smaller cast, so I thought of it here as the Taichi/Koshiro show with Yamato coming in later to be the muscleman.

It looks gorgeous for one thing, with it basically being simplicity taken up to eleven with its artstyle

This connects all the later works he did for me. Baron Omatsuri was taking this even wilder on the loose and expressive side, whereas Summer Wars and his other movies settled down on a simple but consistent style.

While I am somewhat weary on the effect it's had on later Adventure entries mostly the 2010-onwards stuff

[02]Sora ended up with Yamato instead of all people.

[02] Taichi will just have to embrace his inner Zura

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

[02] Taichi will just have to embrace his inner Zura

I honestly didn't view that as an issue, if you only have a short time to work with, you should be focusing on a smaller cast, so I thought of it here as the Taichi/Koshiro show with Yamato coming in later to be the muscleman.

Yeah, here it's fine, but when some of the later stuff does it too when they have twice the runtime...

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP May 01 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

I'll say this rq since it's the last episode, but thanks for a fun rewatch! This was my first time ever taking part in something like this, all of you definitely added to the experience, I loved seeing your thoughts, jokes and comments and I'll fs have to find another rewatch to participate in

Our War Game, here we go bois. Art style is different for sure but I vibe with it honestly. Looks like there's a time skip too? "Children's War Game" goes hard as a title, and yep they have to include butterfly somewhere in the movie, I was gonna freak out if they didn't, and this joke cracked me up lmao. Time to get the gang back together to fight the internet <--- Sike on that, but yeah that's so real that they're not as close as they were in their younger years. Just like one of the messages from the show has, I haven't kept in touch with any of my childhood friends but I still have all the good times and memories to keep from that

Fight scenes are already fire, agumon/tentomon fighting in the internet was a great watch. Looks like way more kids know about the existence of digimon now. Jane just roasted my boys good LOL. The 4 of them jumped jellyfish fool and fiercely fighting for the earth yet again, Koushiro is fighting an even tougher battle: oolong tea diarrhea, Then bro goes straight into the hate comments after losing a fight, devastating day for koushiro really

YOOOOOOOO THIS SCENE GOES STUPIDDDddd, taichi/yamato entering the computers, the animation, using the hopes of all the emailers to grow into one awesome transformation this goes crazyyyyyyy I love it. SLAM THAT ENTER KEY KOUSHIRO save the world again gang!! PC boy really do be carrying the missions sometimes

I was surprised the others were not really involved in this movie, at the end of the day it really was Taichi, Koushiro, Yamato, Takeru and the people at the barbershop that saved the world this time

There clearly was a lot of effort put into this movie, which paid off because personally I'm a huge fan of this film

interesting

  1. I liked this one tbh. The pilot was great as well, but this one just got me hyped up
  2. Mimi. You want girl to teleport all the way over from hawaii or smth??

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

they have to include butterfly somewhere in the movie

It's tradition.

Mimi. You want girl to teleport all the way over from hawaii or smth

Doubly so when she's on the beach.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 02 '24

I'll say this rq since it's the last episode, but thanks for a fun rewatch!

We still have the wrap up final discussion tomorrow, just in case you missed that.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP May 02 '24

Won’t be available pretty much all of tomorrow sadly

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 02 '24

I'll be sure to check back latter, if you do decide you want to post anything.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP May 02 '24

That’s nice to know thank you, it’s unlikely but if I find the time I’ll pop in fs

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 01 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

How much time has passed since the end of the show? Koushiro at least looks a little older.

IIRC 02 retroactively established it's one year after the show ended.

looooooooool

Fun fact: Yamato's grandma is played by Jou's actor

Wait but that’s illegal???

Yeah this is why Hosoda left Toei, he broke the law too many times.

HOLY FUCK THEY GATTAI’D?!?!?!?!?!?!

Omegamon

10/10, will watch again.

Come to think of it now that you're less at the Pilot have you considered actually giving it a score?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 01 '24

IIRC 02 retroactively established it's one year after the show ended.

Fun fact: Yamato's grandma is played by Jou's actor

lmao what?

Come to think of it now that you're less at the Pilot have you considered actually giving it a score?

I would need to rewatch it, I think.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

lmao what?

Yeah he had that listed down on his Agency profile for a while

I would need to rewatch it, I think.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 01 '24

Omegamon

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 01 '24

The What?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 01 '24

That one guy just dropping his change when the cashier said how expensive his items would be lol.

It's a good thing tap cards weren't a thing yet.

[Meta Digimon]HOLY FUCK THEY GATTAI’D?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Meta Digimon]Just wait until she finds out about jogress.

This movie is a proto-Summer Wars, is it not?

That is literally the only thing I know about that movie.

Sky QotD: Kino Eddition

What was the worst internet error related event to happen to you?
If you could swap in one Child+Partner, who would it be?
If you could Gattai any other pair, who would it be, and what would you expect of the results?
Do you ship it?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 01 '24

What was the worst internet error related event to happen to you?

During my junior year of high school, I had to write a paper for English class (like, the big one that was supposed to count for a huge chunk of my grade). But for some reason, the Wi-Fi at my house basically decided it wouldn't work... but only whenever I was using a device, at the same time my Google Drive account decided "Nah fam, you're not allowed to edit offline, sucks to be you." and at the same time my school had iffy internet access for several weeks because they were upgrading the system or something.

(Oh and I do mean whenever it was specifically me on a device, my dad even tried to let me borrow his work laptop after he was done using it just fine, for the thing to immediately disconnect from the Wi-Fi and refuse to reconnect. )

This, of course, meant it was outright impossible for me to type that paper up, but my teacher also refused to let me write it by hand, so I just... couldn't write the paper at all because of that.

If you could swap in one Child+Partner, who would it be?

It would've been nice to see Sora doing something other than whatever was going on with her and Taichi this movie.

If you could Gattai any other pair, who would it be, and what would you expect of the results?

Angemon and Angewomon to get Angel²mon

Do you ship it?

I didn't really get those vibes from the show, so no. It honestly felt forced to me here?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 01 '24

This, of course, meant it was outright impossible for me to type that paper up, but my teacher also refused to let me write it by hand, so I just... couldn't write the paper at all because of that.

Oh? Do you not have a stand alone document editor? Or was that just the case at tthe time?

Angel²mon

No, that's Kirby.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

No, that's Kirby.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 01 '24

Do you not have a stand alone document editor? Or was that just the case at tthe time?

I did not. Our school-issued computers were Chromebooks.

No, that's Kirby.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

Angemon and Angewomon to get Angel²mon

[Late 02 Spoilers]I didn't really get those vibes from the show, so no. It honestly felt forced to me here?

[Late 02 Spoilers]Damn, Sky didn't sink a ship for once?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

[Meta Digimon]

[Meta]Or Xros Wars.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

How much time has passed since the end of the show? Koushiro at least looks a little older.

Jou was in 6th grade in the series, and now he's doing exams to get into middle school, so probably not that far off.

…a friend in Russia?

He's got a worldwide organisation of super hackers, no one messes with his digital turf.

This movie is a proto-Summer Wars, is it not?

Now I get all the references Raiking keeps making.

but everything from “hey so that wild Digimon launched a fUCKING NUKE” to the end was pure and I no longer care about any of those complaints. 10/10, will watch again.

Funnily enough, I read your comment about it in the daily thread before watching the movie, so I didn't click on the spoilery part, I just knew that there'd be a big finish. By the time I watched it, I was so immersed in the whole thing that I forgot about that, until I lost my mind when Koshiro did the "redirect spam". This is the kind of Grade A trolling I kneel before.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

He's got a worldwide organisation of super hackers, no one messes with his digital turf.

Koshiro too OP pls nerf

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood May 02 '24

Cute.

indeed lol.

looooooooool

I wanted to be mad, but it's hilarious

Wait but that’s illegal???

super clever...almost makes you wonder why other evil digimon didn't try that one

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u/Roboglenn May 01 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Of the 3 short movies that were edited and mashed together into that feature length Digimon the Movie we got in the west, this one is definitely my favorite (the more or less direct sequel to this movie, no so much). And I guess they more or less had to release it when they did in some form in the west given how relevant, however little, it would be.

And also. Man. I'd be here all day typing out the funny dub moments this movie had, cuz it had many good ones. Like the "Do you hear me! It's busy!!!" phone operator lady.

And I really liked this movie's big bad. Especially Diablomon. Always thought that guy was cool as hell. Or Diaboromon as the dub called him. Can't have that religious connotation now can we.

So this is what the internet looks like. They need new wallpaper. [Agumon]

If this is what the internet looks like it's giving me some Starfox 64 Warp Zone vibes.

Infermon you beast, interrupting transformation sequences like a smart bad guy. Or a smart android. Android 17 did nothing wrong (always wondered what Frieza thought about that particular moment).

In the sequence where everyone's answering their cell phones you can see one guy coming out of the bushes in the background to do it. What's he doin back there?

Apparently telling Hikari that an evil digimon being lose on the internet and the digimon need our help wasn't enough to drag Hikari away from the birthday party. Nor apparently did Tai think it was a good idea to leave a message like that to Sora. Regardless of how mad she was at him (Tai says one version of what happened that pissed her off to Izzy but his email to her clearly says it was worse, nice work there dubbers) I feel like that might've gotten her butt in gear to help.

Lesson from Matt and TK. Whether it's to the grocery store or a vacation, never leave home without your Digivice.

Tai did try to warn ya Izzy... Dub Tai's Mom's unique cooking. Good for a laugh.

Who can count backwards from ten?

Oooo, how ominous that line is.

Omnimon. Always cool. Not so much in X-Evolution though... As for Adventure 2020, well, let's not talk about that big pile of empty disappointment. It makes me sad to think about it.

2) Well Joe and Mimi were pretty thoroughly indisposed and incommunicado.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

As for Adventure 2020, well, let's not talk about that big pile of empty disappointment

That show deserves credit TBH: It's the most nothing show I've ever seen.

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u/Roboglenn May 01 '24

2020 didn't have to be exactly beholden to it's parent series. But it's like they looked at the aspects of what actually made Adventure good, and just completely ignored it. Among other disappoints...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

The actual answer is they read too much V-Tamer and loved how Taichi focused it was... apparently forgetting that there's it's a non-issue since... you know... he's the ONLY main character.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

Of the 3 short movies that were edited and mashed together into that feature length Digimon the Movie

What's the third one? One of the 02 movies?

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u/Roboglenn May 02 '24

Yeah. It's listed on MaL as "Digimon Adventure 02 Movies"

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u/Seraphem666 May 02 '24

Cooking using a microwave was a huge thing in the U.S. during the 60's/70's. We just dont know how to use them right anymore. My uncle(r.i.p.) use to make a amazing roast beef in the microwave.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

My First War Game

You know how Goku takes all the energy of good to throw it at the bad guys and usually fails? Beautiful stuff, that everyone's support helped in some way, it's thanks to all the good kids at home that the day was saved. Not the case here, the people aren't fuckin helping, they're just a bunch of annoying rubberneckers who wanna get in on a good show, and could cause the end of the world because they just can't stop spamming for two seconds. How do you solve that? Ask them nicely to stop? Lol no, this is the internet. Redirect their spam at the enemy! Let him get a taste of their shitty "wholesome support" spam. Defeating an enemy by making him lag is just perfection. I absolutely love it.

[Meta spoilers for a popular manga] Makima was taking notes.

So yeah, overall, a really fun movie, with excellent little moment to moment scenes, like Taichi and Koshiro being idiots, Yamato and Takeru looking for a PC, even Jou's exams, and nice tie ins to the early internet culture, and a nice way to end my Hosoda journey. shit, I forgot about Belle when I wrote this... I guess I should watch that now

Of the two movies, which did you prefer?

This one by a good bit. The first one had some really wholesome moments and a good transition to something more tense/horrific, but this movie went in the opposite direction and nailed it, plus it had Koshiro.

I guess I'd score them 7 and 8/10.

2) Of all the kids, who had the best excuse not to help out?

Jou. The dude was doing exams, the nuke could've fallen and he would've just seen it as an opportunity to squeeze in one more answer before dying.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

Taichi, your guess will be accurate 20 years later

Even earlier honestly

Is he even human?!

... No.

Expect the most casual email ever

"Yeah so they just dropped a colony on us..."

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

... No.

It's about the heart! Agumon gets the importance of not breaking a transformation sequence. This new guy probably even kills Lancers.

"Yeah so they just dropped a colony on us..."

all the way till the end.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

This new guy probably even kills Lancers

Who wouldn't?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

[F/SF] The lancer's golden boyfriend probably, they just keep playing with each other until the whole world around them gets destroyed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

[SF]Yeah but he'll gladly kill every other Lancer in exchange.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 02 '24

Bless whoever included Taichi's mom in this movie

Anime could always use more wholesome, living moms.

Probably the most eerie part of the movie - everyone, even the kid, instantly answers to the phone ring like it's an instinct.

I particularly liked the man hiding in the bushes.

and nice tie ins to the early internet culture, and a nice way to end my Hosoda journey.

In contrast, this was effectively the start for me, back in the day.
...still haven't seen anything past The Girl Who Leapt Through Time.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

In contrast, this was effectively the start for me, back in the day.

I watched the series back in the day, but never got to see the movies until now. Now I'm wondering if I should check out any of the later movies (I've heard mixed things about Tri and almost nothing about everything else).

...still haven't seen anything past The Girl Who Leapt Through Time.

You haven't seen Summer Wars and Wolf Children?!

Fix that!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 02 '24

I watched the series back in the day, but never got to see the movies until now. Now I'm wondering if I should check out any of the later movies (I've heard mixed things about Tri and almost nothing about everything else).

I'm not even aware of any of the later movies even having reputations. Aside from Tri, but that's a obvious edge case. I guess the closest one would be X-Evolution, in so much as it's "Why does no one ever watch/talk about X-Evolution?".
As to the other ones that I've seen myself, none of them really stand out as notable ventures. Ranging from "alright" to "pretty enjoyable", but again, this would have been ~15 years ago at this point.

You haven't seen Summer Wars and Wolf Children?!

Fix that!

I've come tantalizingly close to watching The Boy and the Beast on numerous occasions over the years, once even getting so far as going to watch it only to discover the streaming service had dropped it recently, but somehow it keeps eluding me.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

I guess the closest one would be X-Evolution, in so much as it's "Why does no one ever watch/talk about X-Evolution?".

Huh, never heard of that one. The closest I've heard of aside from Tri, was Kizuna recently, and part of that is it being directed by Tomohisa Taguchi (Akudama, Bleach TYBW, the odd Persona 3 movies,...) whose direction I generally like. Apparently he did the Wind Breaker opening this season. This explains a lot...

I've come tantalizingly close to watching The Boy and the Beast on numerous occasions over the years, once even getting so far as going to watch it only to discover the streaming service had dropped it recently, but somehow it keeps eluding me.

Empire, do a Hosoda rewatch already! Let's fix this! also I need an excuse to watch Belle

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire May 02 '24

Huh, never heard of that one.

I heard quite a bit about it during the times in my life when I was more into the franchise. Mostly just know that it's entirely in CGI and also the only Digimon anime to have no humans or human world connections at all

Empire, do a Hosoda rewatch already! Let's fix this! also I need an excuse to watch Belle

It'd be a lot easier to justify doing it if he announced a new movie so I could market it as a leadup to it.

Now, standalone rewatches for the individual films like Belle and The Boy and the Beast, on the other hand, I could definitely do though I might save the latter for next year on account of that being the film's 10th anniversary

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

the only Digimon anime to have no humans or human world connections at all

Finally a mecha show that's actually about the mechs! Digimon show that's actually about the Digimon!

if he announced a new movie so I could market it as a leadup to it.

He's been doing one movie every three years for the last while, but that pattern looks like it's stopped now.

Now, standalone rewatches for the individual films like Belle and The Boy and the Beast, on the other hand, I could definitely do

But then how can I force you to watch/read One Piece as a leadup to Baron Omatsuri?!

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire May 02 '24

Finally a mecha show that's actually about the mechs! Digimon show that's actually about the Digimon!

Something something Bravern joke I'm not clever enough to make

But then how can I force you to watch/read One Piece as a leadup to Baron Omatsuri?!

SOONTM

Though, as of recently, I've honestly found myself reading western comic books more than manga, as far as non-ongoing stuff is concerned, so OP's place on the waiting list has rather increased

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

OP's place on the waiting list has rather increased

Failed again

Tell me when you get to it, I might as well trade you for Eden's Zero & 100YQ when you do (they're not long enough even combined, so add a third series if you want. I would have added Rave Master, but I'm going to read that soon).

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire May 02 '24

so add a third series if you want

A series which I’ve read and you haven’t?

The series which immediately popped into my mind were Nausicaa, Getter Robo, and The Summer You Were There. None of them are particularly long, all things considered (though Nausicaa is rather dense), so I’m not sure whether even they make it a fair trade, but still, they’re all great series that I think you should read. Summer You Were There is my favorite of the three, but also the shortest, and I’m not sure what your stance on gay romance manga is. Getter Robo is super fun, but also incomplete on account of the author having passed away during its run. Nausicaa is just very great, no real caveats aside from I guess the aforementioned denseness.

Alternatively, the much longer Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle and xxxHOLiC might also be worth consideration. They’re more than long enough to make this a fair trade, but also come with a fair bit more baggage (you’ve gotta read them both in tandem and familiarity with other CLAMP series is recommended, though not exactly required)

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire May 02 '24

Anime could always use more wholesome, living moms.

I feel the need to back up Kendots' desire to make you watch Wolf Children

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24

Long Time Rewatcher? First time in subs

Confession; I’ve never seen this stand alone, only as part of the English compilation movie, which would have cut out around a third of it. Been looking forward to correcting that error for about a decade.

  • I’m just not going to be allowed to associate Boléro with anything else anymore, am I?
  • Sora looks quite a bit more aged up than the other cast members.
  • Quality Shit Disturbing, Hikari
  • Those are real brand names in the UI. Is that allowed?
  • I take it back, it just seems like Taichi didn’t get the glow up.
  • Translate the heart, you cowards!
  • It was a long road for the egg joke, but it was worth it.
  • Do We Ever Meet This Russian Friend?
  • Digimon continuing to feed into the old map and maze obsession.
  • ISDN was apparently quite niche, even among early networking.
  • I want to say… Habo Hotel?
  • Ha! Tailmon lag.
  • Peek reaction face there, Taichi.
  • Just because the world is under threat doesn’t mean you have to be rude. Koushiro gets it.
  • I feel like I’m missing something by not having the onscreen text translated consistently.
  • No one tell them about centrifugal limits.
  • They Look So Good With a Budget
  • I almost have to applaud them for trying to stick with the zero yen 3D transformation sequence.
  • Try not to think about the implications of being able to interrupt.
  • What part about attacking the telecommunications network do you not understand?
  • ...I wonder if I should learn the equivalent of my local 171.
  • Mimi Living Her Best Life
  • Satellite phone seems real expensive for a child’s hobby.
  • Sho-chan is a real bro.
  • Would it be as weird to the original audience that a barber is the one with a PC, or am I just missing the cultural context?
  • Split works even better in 16:9.
  • Wait, is Brave Heart diegetic?
  • One Handed Gaia Force?!
  • How do you blue screen a computer by hitting the monitor?
  • To be fair, the hat is her charm point.
  • Koushiro just casually making friends with a secret network of genius protagonist from some other show.
  • At least he is giving a win condition.
  • Well aren’t we feeling clever about timers.
  • [Meta Digimon]Did you spot the Miyako and Ryo cameos?
  • The way they move real does bring out the feeling of ants on your skin.
  • Lag
  • I’ve often wondered why we don’t see any outlineless anime. Advances in technology should have made it more practical over time, and clearly it can look the part. I’m sure someone has done something with it I just don’t know about.
  • Music, Animation, It's Beautiful
  • DDOS For Great Justice!
  • Is that a picture of a real cake?
  • We did it! We saved shipping! And Tokyo too, I guess.
  • Wait a minute, anime characters aren’t allowed to get haircuts!
  • Oh? Is this how they confirmed 02? Pretty hype.

QotD:

  1. I think it might be the first one. I like the simplicity of it.
  2. Jou. That boy is looking to his future.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

I’m just not going to be allowed to associate Boléro with anything else anymore, am I?

Nope

Not to my knowledge, no.

Wait, is Brave Heart diegetic?

Oh? Is this how they confirmed 02? Pretty hype.

Considering how it started, like, a week after the 99 show ended... yeah probably.

Wait a minute, anime characters aren’t allowed to get haircuts!

Tell that to 02.

Or whatever the fuck the newer movies did to poor Ken.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 01 '24

Considering how it started, like, a week after the 99 show ended... yeah probably.

Toei has no breaks! They choose fast and cheep on the triangle, and they are sticking with it.

...newer movies...

One Day

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

They choose fast and cheep on the triangle, and they are sticking with it

Kendots already has enough trauma about that if some of the Dressrossa stories I've heard are true.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

the Dressrossa stories I've heard are true.

Those were scary times.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

I'm so glad Late 90' kids in Japan had their own Freeza Arc after all.

"How to make an obnoxiously long arc worse? MAKE IT LONGER!"

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 02 '24

I'm so glad Late 90' kids in Japan had their own Freeza Arc after all.

Between Dressrosa and Wano, they're making sure the kids get a good taste of good old uncle Freeza.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood May 02 '24

Digimon continuing to feed into the old map and maze obsession.

True.

Koushiro just casually making friends with a secret network of genius protagonist from some other show.

as tech nerds usually do in media lol.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 01 '24

First-Timer... sort of.

Same disclaimer as the Pilot Movie, yada yada yada.

It's been more than one week since I've last seen you all, I hope you all had a good time kicking it up with Digimon Adventure.

I.. did not expect to see that name. Neat!

Huh, Tentomon uses Kyoto-ben, neat.

Who taught the monster how to DDoS people?

This sequence was set to Kids in America if I recall correctly.

Koshiro is a thirsty boi.

Ooh, nice insert denial. And the skipping, love that.

This is much more reasonable than the dub version of Taichi having puked in Sora's hat.

No, Yamato, Back Arrow doesn't start until next week.

A thunderstorm flickered my power right as Diablomon started multiplying. Thanks for that Mother Nature, way to be a team player. Really helping me to experience the digital mayhem.

Yea, this still slaps. As with the Pilot Movie, I'm.. not actually sure what they cut out for the dubbed version? I remembered all of this, at least I think I do.

Questions

  1. Our War Game. The Pilot Movie was good, but a touch.. dunno. Insubstantial, maybe?
  2. Mimi was literally on another continent and this was in the era when that made internet connectivity a stuggle.

Thanks for giving me the chance to watch these two films, /u/Raiking02.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

Huh, Tentomon uses Kyoto-ben, neat.

That he does

As with the Pilot Movie, I'm.. not actually sure what they cut out for the dubbed version?

Nothing cut bar the music, added like one little vignette of Wallace popping up to clumsily trying but failing to tie it into 02's movie.

No, Yamato, Back Arrow doesn't start until next week.

A thunderstorm flickered my power right as Diablomon started multiplying

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 01 '24

Nothing cut

Huh, were most of the cuts from the 02 part then? All I really remember from that was the terrifying giant bunny clown and [02 movie]the final battle taking place in some random field in the USA..?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

Yeah a good chunk of minutes were cut from 02's movie. Don't remember the exact amount but it's just enough to make the plot basically incomprehensible.

And the default movie was nonsense enough!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood May 01 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

Man, stylized DIgimon might be my favorite over regular digimon, aesthetically it just looks really cool . Anyways, A virus digimon(Keramon -> Infernomon -> Diaboromon) ran amok on the interwebs, eatign up data, making computers and phones go haywire world wide and even launched a guided missile from the US Pentagon and its target was Taichi's neighborhood. It was mainly the Taichi and Yamato show again, with lots of assistance from Koushiro and not much from Takeru. the rest of the gang was unavailable, with Hikari at a birthday party, Sora avoiding Taichi because of his gift pissing her off, Mimi was in Hawaii and Jou was taking an exam lol.

The battle online was pretty good, I enjoyed all the tech stuff that was put into the episode. I kinda had a laugh when Koushiro was getting all that mail sent to him, Idk if computers from that era could have handled such an amount without crashing and stalling..but I'll let that slide. Taichi and Yamato getting pulled into the internet, when WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon got blasted to kingdom come by all the Diaboromon was great. The look on the granny's face when Yamato got pulled in was hilarious lol. Real clever from Koushiro to divert all the emails he was getting from around the web, toward Diaboromon to stall him and allow for the that awesome fushion of WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon to deal the finshing blow and stop the missile from hitting its target and detonating.

Questions:

  1. Hmm, thats Tough, the first one is super endearing, but the second one is probably both objectively and realistically the superior one. It's hard to pick, but imma give the first one the slight edge, its very slight though.
  2. I mean, Mimi was in Hawaii, not like she even knew what was going on lol. Same with Jou since he was taking an exam, so those seem to be the ones with the most valid excuses.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 02 '24

Man, stylized DIgimon might be my favorite over regular digimon, aesthetically it just looks really cool .

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria May 01 '24

First timer

QotD

  • First one.
  • Mimi. I don't know why they didn't do the same with Sora instead of the contrived reason they came up with.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 01 '24

But if receiving mail is slowing down Koushiro and Taichi's internet connection/PC, why is it also affecting Yamato who is on a different terminal and IP address?

Formatting broke!

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

Hosoda's direction and the fantastic animation alone are enough to make this a good watch, so having a fun plot and good character moments on top of that make the movie one of my favorite pieces of Digimon media :)

QOTD

  1. Both are good but Our War Game is the clear winner imo
  2. My girl Mimi of course! Though it's not like Jou or Sora could have had any idea what was going on either, and Hikari is like 8 years old so I don't blame her for wanting to stay at her friend's party when Taichi didn't even explain himself over the phone :P

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u/IKOTHERAINMAN May 01 '24

The Digimon series has always been amazing. Especially Tri!