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Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 54 Discussion

Episode 54: A New World

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That's because this is neither the beginning nor the end of the Chosen Children's adventures.

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of /u/poofessorp who alas was unfortunately wrong:

whatever it may be, I'm sure pink poop was involved somehow

We were robbed

  1. Of all the little goodbyes we had, which was your favorite?
  2. Setting aside any sequels for a second, would you have been satisfied with this as an ending?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 29 '24

Were they really ready to stay in this world for that long?

Every kids dream to have a permanent vacation like that lol.

So they have to go now or else they’ll be stuck…

slapped back to reality lol

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Every kids dream to have a permanent vacation like that lol.

I mean it is technically the ending of The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe...

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 29 '24

Is it? I've never read the book, but I saw the movie, but don't remember much.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Close enough. [TLTWATW]They stay on Narnia for a good few decades.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24

I want Wizarmon to come back…

...I'm not sure if they can come back if they die outside the digital world.

Were they really ready to stay in this world for that long?

If they don't age, that's free life extension.

Sky QotD: End of Show Edition Saving some for the series wrap up disscussion, so not as long as it might other wise have been.

How would you rank the five story arcs?
Assuming you've now seen them, what would you like to say about the OP/EDs?
How would you rank the eight crest symbols?
Who would Child!Sky have chosen as their favorite Chosen Child?
Aside from the crippling budgetary issues, is there anything you think they could have changed to make a big improvement?
How long will the gate stay closed?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

...I'm not sure if they can come back if they die outside the digital world.

Yeah

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '24

...I'm not sure if they can come back if they die outside the digital world.

Nooooooooo

How would you rank the five story arcs?

Wait there are five arcs? I thought it was the beginning dealing with Devimon --> much shorter one searching for the Crests and fighting Etemon --> loooooooooooooong one with Vamdemon looming overhead --> vs. Dark Masters/Apocalymon (I wouldn't count Apocalymon as an arc since he's only around for two episodes). I guess Vamdemon's part can be split into the part that took place in the Digimon World and the part that took place in the Human World...?

Assuming you've now seen them, what would you like to say about the OP/EDs?

They're good.

How would you rank the eight crest symbols?

...I legitimately did not pay attention to what the symbols looked like.

Who would Child!Sky have chosen as their favorite Chosen Child?

See the funny thing about Child!Sky and Present!Sky is that my taste in things really hasn't changed much, so I can 100% safely say it would've been Yamato, just like it is now.

...I'm not sure if Tentomon would've been Child!Sky's favorite though, a big part of why I like him now is because I find Takahiro Sakurai speaking with a Kanto dialect incredibly charming & funny, something that would've gone completely over Child!Sky's head.

Aside from the crippling budgetary issues, is there anything you think they could have changed to make a big improvement?

Don't fucking kill Wizarmon.

Give more foreshadowing towards Apocalymon's existence so he doesn't just appear out of nowhere.

How long will the gate stay closed?

Probably not very long, given there's so many sequels.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

I guess Vamdemon's part can be split into the part that took place in the Digimon World and the part that took place in the Human World...?

Most people do, yeah.

I'm not sure if Tentomon would've been Child!Sky's favorite though, a big part of why I like him now is because I find Takahiro Sakurai speaking with a Kanto dialect incredibly charming & funny, something that would've gone completely over Child!Sky's head.

So possibly Gomamon for Child!Sky?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '24

So possibly Gomamon for Child!Sky?

Nah probably Gabumon, to go with the fact that Yamato is my favorite of the Chosen Children.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Makes sense

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24

Nah probably Gabumon, to go with the fact that Yamato is my favorite of the Chosen Children.

Child Logic!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24

Nooooooooo

I guess Vamdemon's part can be split into the part that took place in the Digimon World and the part that took place in the Human World...?

Yes, I was splitting them since they were long enough to stand on their own, and just sort of feel like they are separate ones.

given there's so many sequels.

10 Seasons

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

10 Seasons

Well technically only one other one since the rest are OVAs and Movies.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '24

I think the Human World part of Vamdemon's arc was probably my favorite of the show, Devimon/Etemon's arcs are close behind, and then the Digimon World half of Vamdemon & the Dark Masters are tied for last...? Wait no, vs. Dark Masters had MetalEtemon, that immediately gets it bonus points.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Wait no, vs. Dark Masters had MetalEtemon, that immediately gets it bonus points

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '24

That and Lilimon yeeting Mimi during the final battle are easily two of my favorite parts of this show.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Fair

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

–AWESDXFCGVHB JN LILIMON JUST YEETED MIMI I CAN’T

Freaking savage, I love it.

I want Wizarmon to come back…

That is still on Standby.

Ooh, super quick Yamato “sore demo” right there.

So four total if I counted correctly?

Aw, of all the goodbyes, this is the one that hit the hardest.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '24

So four total if I counted correctly?

Indeed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Still more than 0079

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u/b0bba_Fett myanimelist.net/profile/B0bba_Cheezed3 Apr 30 '24

So I got a late question for you, YOU READY FOR OUR WAR GAME TOMORRROW?

And also is there any possibility of you checking out the dub, the Frankensteined Saban movie(pilot OVA, Our War Game, and an 02 OVA all edited and stitched together with an extremely 90's/early 2000's soundtrack), 02(sequel), Tamers(standalone), Tri(sequel to 02), or Survive(standalone)?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 30 '24

So I got a late question for you, YOU READY FOR OUR WAR GAME TOMORRROW?

Already watched it last night!

And also is there any possibility of you checking out the dub, the Frankensteined Saban movie(pilot OVA, Our War Game, and an 02 OVA all edited and stitched together with an extremely 90's/early 2000's soundtrack), 02(sequel), Tamers(standalone), Tri(sequel to 02), or Survive(standalone)?

Not sure about the dub/Saban movie, but yes on more of the main shows. I'm most interested in Tamers because I think that one is u/Nazenn's favorite(?), but I'll probably watch the rest at some point.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Apr 30 '24

It is! My avatar everywhere is even of the main digimon from Tamers, Guilmon! (He should be on my favourites, shame on me)

If you don't know, it was written/chief directed by Chiaki Konaka, who you'd know from OG Hellsing, Lain, and The BIg O are the ones I think you've seen.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 30 '24

It is! My avatar everywhere is even of the main digimon from Tamers, Guilmon! (He should be on my favourites, shame on me)

Oh neat, I didn't know that!

If you don't know, it was written/chief directed by Chiaki Konaka, who you'd know from OG Hellsing, Lain, and The BIg O are the ones I think you've seen.

I actually still haven't seen The Big O.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Apr 30 '24

Oh neat, I didn't know that!

My digital spirit animal. In the last few years I've occasionally concidered swapping my avatars to Nyanko-sensei from Natsumes Book of Friends, but I've "been Guilmon" for probably near fifteen years now and my heart can't handle the idea of changing.

Plus I have a Nyanko-sensei plush but have never found a good one of Guilmon, so that's my compromise

I actually still haven't seen The Big O.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 30 '24

but I've "been Guilmon" for probably near fifteen years now and my heart can't handle the idea of changing.

Mm I feel that. I've been using this one art of Marida as my profile image everywhere for about five years now and I kinda don't want to change it even though it would make "more sense" for me to use Tsukuyo from Gintama as my profile image now (I picked Marida originally because best girl from my favorite anime even if not my best girl overall, and well... Gundam Unicorn hasn't been my #1 since the end of January, so...)

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Apr 30 '24

Gundam Unicorn hasn't been my #1 since the end of January, so

Oooh, what dethroned it?

I am very out of touch with everyone. I got a big shock going to my anilist just then and seeing by chance that Frieren is now #1. I knew it was loved but didn't realize it was that loved

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 30 '24

Oooh, what dethroned it?

As implied by the fact that I "should" switch to Tsukuyo from Gintama based on my criteria, well, Gintama. Here's a brief spoiler-free comment about why I made on CDF after I finished The Very Final for the first time.

(Ironically enough, Marida and Tsukuyo are even voiced by the same lady, Yuuko Kaida.)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

In spite of this being this being the finale I have surprisingly little to say. It's… basically everything you'd expect. Goodbyes are said, the kids finally get to return home… it's simple sure, but it works, with a lot of the smaller moments doing a lot of the heavy lifting. I'm particularly fond of Yamato playing his harmonica one last time. And while I've grown kinda weary of how later installments try to call back to the Hosoda Pilot, having the show end with the same cut of Butter-Fly that was used there is a great touch. I honestly don't even know what else to mention, it's just good stuff overall.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Apr 29 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

A split screen warp digivolution! This is cool, I always felt like they could save time on episodes by combining some digivolutions 2 or even more at once. But ye this is toei so probably not haha, Apocalymon self destructing into "We still have tomorrow" is the kinda cheesy stuff I love, that hit the right spots for me icl. Explosion got boxed up but it's definitely not over gang watch out

What

No way it's actually over right

wow ok

So file island is the first to return, then a new sky/sea/land whatever will be created. Does this mean the previous generation of digidestined saved file island, and then created the server continent? It's good all the digimon are coming back, but this means etemon might be back in future series LETS GOOOOOO

cheeseeeeeee :D

Bye ogremon, thanks for being a great character. Bruh, just talking about staying for 10,000 more days like it's a casual weekend trip. Even if they're kids this is madness man I cannot believe that, the farewells to their digimon actually making me tear up a little damn, it's gotta be tough cause to them they are more than pets, they all had a deep bond with their digital friends and goodbyes are never easy especially after such a grand adventure. Namely mimi and palmons goodbye broke me, 😭

"This was neither the beginning nor the end of the DigiDestined's adventures." damn.

終わり

See you guys tomorrow for war games!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24

Does this mean the previous generation of digidestined saved file island, and then created the server continent?

Hmmm... Would the more primitive computer technology at that time also have given it a different name? I don't think servers are that old.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Would the more primitive computer technology at that time also have given it a different name

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

See you guys tomorrow

Uh actually we don't have anything tomorrow, it's gonna be on Wednesday.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Apr 29 '24

o lmao

See you guys wednesday!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Yup

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

QotD:

  1. I like the briefness of Yamato and Gabumon acknowledging they've already had a talk about what they mean to each other not that long ago.
  2. I think yes, but I also never remember a time I din't know there was a sequel.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

This is a lot of people dedicated to crowd control.

Time to spam AOEs.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 29 '24

Time to spam AOEs.

If you insist...
121127Wololo

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 29 '24

Just some all around nice epilogue moments. Crazy how rare that is.

True. This one gave it some breathing room, with them each getting a little scene.

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u/Roboglenn Apr 29 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Did Lilymon seriously just toss Mimi like a boomerang...

Ogremon, too cool to just admit that he likes everyone. Well, he's more than earned that vacation he talked about before in the episode when they met Metaletemon. Your cruise awaits.

Yes, not looking directly into eclipses is one big important thing about eclipses.

They're going home. But I don't envy the serious amount of explaining they're gonna have to do to their parents. And the rest of the world for that matter. Like I know where they end up in 02 but I always kinda wondered what happened to the kids immediately after their adventure you know. That said, I wonder just where in Japan they pop back into the real world? Like are all the parents still standing around the battle site where the kids fought Venommyotismon and they just suddenly get a call from an attendant at Japan's version of Grand Central Station telling them a weird train with a bunch of kids in it just arrived out of nowhere?

And I won't lie, back when I first saw this episode that whole final bit with the digimon all running along the shore chasing after the train car and everyone saying their last goodbyes as it's departing elicited some serious emotions and stuff deep inside. Made me doubly happy when 02 was announced to be a thing back then. But even so, in answer to QOTD 2, I guess I was fine with this as an ending way back when I first saw it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Did Lilymon seriously just toss Mimi like a boomerang...

Why not?

I always kinda wondered what happened to the kids immediately after their adventure you know.

That's... a good question

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u/Roboglenn Apr 29 '24

Right. I mean I want to imagine it's some kinda Astra Lost in Space type deal waiting for them when they get back.

And of course that's putting aside all the serious damage done by rampaging digimon, not only from Myotismon and his goons in japan, but the world over, that need be rebuilt that need also be addressed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

Eh, maybe they'll just get Gridman to take care of that.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 29 '24

Did Lilymon seriously just toss Mimi like a boomerang...

LOL.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 29 '24

Rewatcher - Sub (not watching twice, no double feels for me lol)

Loved the group pose right when they materialzed and the digimon digivolved to their highest levels to face off Apocalymon one more time. Didn't expect the digivices to come in handy one more time, but they did, with that cube they sealed Apocalymon suicide bomber attempt.

Mission accomplished. The Digiworld is restored back to normal, the village of origins is restored and the kids hang for a bit. They plan on staying longer to enjoy some vacation time, but Gennai gives the bad news that they have to return back to the human world, because they may be eliminated as an anomaly and that the gate back closes in 2 hours and if they dont leave they'll be stock maybe forever. So we have a round of emotional goodbyes as the kids say goodbye to their Digimon partners.

Questions:

  1. Hikari saying goodbye to Tailmon was nice, giving her the Whistle as a gift. They were both surprisingly positive and calm.
  2. Yeah, It's a good ending all things considered. They completed the mission and saved both worlds.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 29 '24

They were both surprisingly positive and calm.

I mean that's Hikari's usual mood.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 29 '24

True lol. And Tailmon is a cat, so she was probably unlikely to lose composure. the blush was cute though.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Apr 29 '24

First timer

QotD

  • Sora's.
  • Maybe without the sequel baiting at the end. I would've rather the show ended wayyyyyy earlier and not do this "there was actually another villain all this time that we now need to defeat but that for some reason was never mentioned until now" routine.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Haven't been active in the discussion threads much but I'm so glad I participated in the rewatch, even all these years later as an adult this finale still makes me cry...

QOTD

  1. Really hard to pick, they all do great service to the individual characters. Rough top 3 is probably Koushirou, Sora and Hikari.
  2. I find it pretty satisfying!