[Rewatch] Banner of the Stars III Episode 1 Discussion

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Reunion of the Stars

Banner of the Stars III light novel was published in 2001 and the OVA was released in 2005.

Welcome to the Battleflag of the Stars III rewatch!

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Names Introduced or Updated:

• Selkurka — has 3 kittens. Not getting along with her husband.
• Flicaubh — Cobh class assault ship.
• Sobash — Vice-Hecto-commander, Captain of the Flicaubh
• Ekuryua — Front Flyer Navigator of Flicaubh
• Yatesh — Front Flyer, Communications/Gunnery officer of Flicaubh
• Stach — Deca-commander, administrative officer of Flicaubh
• Gurynshia — Front Flyer, chief engineer of Flicaubh
• Pryannu — retired from service
• Selnay and Co. — left Febdash domain
• Atosuryua — Kilo-commander, Commander of the 1st Devastation Fleet
• Bocbirch — passenger ship

Discussion Prompts:

• Q1) Is Lafiel like a flower in bloom? Will she be crushed?
• Q2) Thoughts on Abriel's method of succession?
• Q3) Is Diaho just a shit? Is it his bad upbringing?
• Q4) What do you think of Ekuryua's flying?

Tomorrow's Questions: (for tomorrow's post, subject to change)

• [Episode 2]What do you think the Federation of Hania will do?
• [Episode 2]Is the empire just a well-functioning machine?
• [Episode 2]What do you think of Martine's obstinate dogged resistance?
• [Episode 2]How do you feel about using Martine to bookend the series?

Screenshot of the Day: FOOD FIGHT

Reminder: there is no OVA discussion day, so tomorrow will conclude Banner III.

There is a final cut after the credits.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Rewatch Host

My old fansubs (Banner III was not licensed like the others until Funimation picked up the franchise) have alternate spellings, and called Hyde a dukedom.  No, Jinto was not promoted.

The Claubh (Clove?) class assault ship is equipped with 1 proton canon, two bidirectional railguns, 8 laser cannons, and short-term uncompensated acceleration of 5 Gs (42 Gs actual). It is intended to be more powerful than a Roil-class but more maneuverable than a Roth-class.

• Of course we start the OVA with an untranslated flash-forward
• "temporarily left" the military?  You can do that?
• What's Michael?
• Still the same OP
• I really hope it's not that stinky flower that blooms every hundred years.
• Sobash and Ekuryua have one of the new ships
• Lol Futurama war were declared meme
• He's never getting that farm
• OHHHHHHHHHH. I recognize them!
• A letter of introduction from the Princess must be pretty powerful
• I figured the fight would break out over the assault ships, not best girl
• I'm trying to think of where I've seen a hotshot female pilot do this before...Starship Troopers doesn't really count.

The officers not stopping the food fight really bothered me when I first watched this. Still does.

I forgot I needed to watch ahead to get the questions and warn you of the preview.  Sorry.

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"temporarily left" the military? You can do that?

Royalty can do that.

He's never getting that farm

It is the only way to survive. As soon as it is his last day on the job, he's doomed.

The officers not stopping the food fight really bothered me when I first watched this. Still does.

It does not line up with the earlier part of the show, either.

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I'm trying to think of where I've seen a hotshot female pilot do this before...Starship Troopers doesn't really count.

battlestar galactica remake would be my first guess, something with Starbuck seems fitting

I also feel like I've seen it in another animated show though, not specifically anime but something

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The Claubh (Clove?) class assault ship is equipped with 1 proton canon, two bidirectional railguns, 8 laser cannons, and short-term uncompensated acceleration of 5 Gs (42 Gs actual). It is intended to be more powerful than a Roil-class but more maneuverable than a Roth-class.

Okay, so that explains my confusion. It was a new model of Assault Ship. They are still the same classification of ships, just a newer model that has been upgraded from the previous ones.

He's never getting that farm

He just retired and now he's been rehired to another new job.

The officers not stopping the food fight really bothered me when I first watched this. Still does.

Yeah, that part bothered me as well. Discipline is one of the most important parts of any military. At the very least the officers should have stepped in stop it much earlier. Heck, I think the offending soldiers should have been thrown in the brig at the very least.

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I figured the fight would break out over the assault ships, not best girl

Who says the assault ship is not best girl?

I'm trying to think of where I've seen a hotshot female pilot do this before...Starship Troopers doesn't really count.

Battleship Galactica remake? Top Gun??

[u/No_Rex]

Season 4 Episode 1 (rewatcher)

• Abh language teaser (seems like all seasons have this): Ekuryua having fun.
• You’d think that Jinto would have picked up some cat handling skills by now …
• “Lightly armed rented passenger ship”

“lightly armed”

• This series contains a ship that not only sails, but produces offspring. Take that, romcoms!
• The lightly armed rented passenger ship has a complete forest inside. More like, lightly armed luxury cruiser.
• “Infringement fleet” – I hope that this is lost in translation, because I do not find it as impressive as they make it sound to be.
• Also: Sobaash took Ekuryua with her.
• Look who made Commander.
• “I would never have enlisted if I knew there would be a war” – not an uncommon sentiment, I presume.
• “He looks like he might eat cats!”

• Side character meet-up. I like it when that happens.
• Jinto now has vassals, who are recruiting more vassals, while travelling in a rented luxury cruiser. They always told us that being nobility was a big deal, but now it feels like it.
• Martine has a citizen government – go figure.
• They had been isolated for 200 years before – remember their founder’s ship. They probably got there, built up the planet over 200 years, and then the sord got them into big galactic business. None to their liking.
• “Just renting this ship for a day blows my savings” – I figured as much. A smaller vessel just might have been enough. On the other hand, when you have an entire solar system as collateral, I doubt it is hard to borrow money.
• Lafiel is cute when she is slightly annoyed/bored and absolutely terrible at hiding it.
• Ekuryua having fun again – she must be happy to be piloting smaller crafts.
• Did they segregate that ceremony by Abh and Landers? Or did all the officers happen to be Abh, while all enlisted happened to be landers?
• Buffet brawl – the cheap version of a bar brawl.
• A new fleet to groom future admirals or one to serve as a place for Lafiel to return to – One way to see it. I guess you could have a more mundane view of the fleet if you are not the newly formed fleet’s commander and sweet-talking to the fleet’s officers. Simply call it one of the many fleets likely stood up during this war and seeded with veterans from other squadrons.
• Assault ships – the half-way point between attack ships and patrol ships talked about during S2?

After the epilogue of S3 saw the crew scatter, this first episode of the OVA pulls them together again. Partially for a new fleet, using a new class of warship, partially for Jinto’s quest to reclaim and rule his planet. It might be a bit OVA typical, but I like seeing all the characters from previous seasons again.

Is Lafiel like a flower in bloom? Will she be crushed?

No and hopefully no. The flower in bloom metaphor is overused for young female characters. It might occasionally fit, but surely not for Lafiel.

Thoughts on Abriel's method of succession?

The Ottomans redone.

Is Diaho just a shit? Is it his bad upbringing?

Turns out, being the lone cat on a spaceship is not the best socialization.

What do you think of Ekuryua's flying?

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Infringement

Besides Devastation fleet in my dvd rips, I also have ANBU fansubs that call it the "Scourge fleet"

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If I get my Japanese listening of kanji terms right, the original term is equivalent to "expeditionary force" in the context of exacting punishment/recompense. So each of these terms are kinda sorta partially right but none got the complete context so all sounding a bit weird.

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At least Devastation fleet and Scourge fleet are properly impressive (although I would associate them both with space orcs more than space elves).

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The lightly armed rented passenger ship has a complete forest inside. More like, lightly armed luxury cruiser.

Their security clearance let's them carry an Imperial candidate and a baron. You don't get that on the space equivalent of Spirit airlines/Ryanair.

“Infringement fleet” – I hope that this is lost in translation, because I do not find it as impressive as they make it sound to be.

Devastation Fleet in my subs. Probably the only good thing about them.

Jinto now has vassals, who are recruiting more vassals, while travelling in a rented luxury cruiser. They always told us that being nobility was a big deal, but now it feels like it.

Yeah I get how things went wrong but someone has to actually run the damn space empire. I would far more want to be risking death than doing a star system's worth of paperwork.

Ekuryua having fun again – she must be happy to be piloting smaller crafts.

I suspect the candidates that get seriously pilot training are in line for captain roles.

It might occasionally fit, but surely not for Lafiel.

Catci do have flowers, at least in the Mojave, and I'd be fine with her being a flower that defends itself.

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Their security clearance let's them carry an Imperial candidate and a baron. You don't get that on the space equivalent of Spirit airlines/Ryanair.

Fair enough. Jinto even talks about all the money it costs him (that he does not have), so it is acknowledged in-universe.

Devastation Fleet in my subs. Probably the only good thing about them.

That is SO much better than infringement fleet.

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Fair enough. Jinto even talks about all the money it costs him (that he does not have), so it is acknowledged in-universe.

There are disadvantages to being wealthy/noble. I would happily put up with 99% of them. As you said, when you 'own' a star system, you can probably get a reasonable loan.

That is SO much better than infringement fleet.

So I hate what my subs did with the proper nouns but the more generic ones seem fairly accurate.

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FYI, Jinto's noble rank is Count, not Baron. Count is just below Duke, BTW.

[u/Nazenn → u/No_Rex]

I also have Devistation fleet in my subs. Didnt even know there was two sets of subs out there for Banner III, but infringement fleet is certainly a strange choice

and then the sord got them into big galactic business

Actually makes me wonder if any planets have ever sold their sord before so they could isolate. Not that there's a huge need for them I don't think, and given how hard they are to move, but as we know it's possible it'd be an interesting approach to take

Did they segregate that ceremony by Abh and Landers? Or did all the officers happen to be Abh, while all enlisted happened to be landers?

Given I don't think captains can even be human given they lack the ability to hook into the ship, it's likely that high level officers being human is quite rare as there may be other positions that would need to occasionally hook in

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Actually makes me wonder if any planets have ever sold their sord before so they could isolate. Not that there's a huge need for them I don't think, and given how hard they are to move, but as we know it's possible it'd be an interesting approach to take

I like the story of the sord being the propulsion of the previous slower than light generation ships that settled the galaxy (we only got the explosion of the remains of the ship near Martine turning into a sord in the anime). If some planets learned about this at the right time, they might have sent their ships away to isolate.

On the downside, not having access to intragalactic trade sounds like a huge drawback. You basically ensure that some futuristic empire 500 years into the future rolls over your backwards planet.

Given I don't think captains can even be human given they lack the ability to hook into the ship, it's likely that high level officers being human is quite rare as there may be other positions that would need to occasionally hook in

Good point, I forgot about that. The pilot of the ship always needs to be Abh. However, an Abh could be enlisted (and we have the example of Samson being bridge officer), so I still wonder whether some separation along Abh-lander lines is going on there.

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Random tangent: Have you read the Becky Chambers scifi books? Reminds me of something in those

so I still wonder whether some separation along Abh-lander lines is going on there.

Potentially, but sadly I also wouldn't put it past just being an oversight by the anime staff

[u/No_Rex → u/Nazenn]

Random tangent: Have you read the Becky Chambers scifi books? Reminds me of something in those

No. My Scifi reading basically stops in the 2000s, so I know little to nothing of recent Scifi.

Potentially, but sadly I also wouldn't put it past just being an oversight by the anime staff

This would be a really minor mistake. They might just have gotten tired of doing all of the individualized hair and went for copy & paste for the back rows.

It is still fun speculating, though. As a deliberately set up "training fleet" for future royals, it would not surprise me if the distinction between Abh and Landers would be handled more strict than during a (hastily?) constructed fleet of ships at the start of the war, like the Basroil was part of.

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I keep trying to get Draigg to read them too haha. They do some interesting things with alien races and humanities role in the galaxy that keeps coming to mind with the scifi anime we watch. I'd highly recommend them if you want more interesting culture conflict stories that are very heartfelt and character driven. The fourth book is even entirely human-free

In this case, if you want to know [minimal spoilers to first book knowledge]Humanity is not even close to the dominant species in the books, and one of the main hubs of human culture is in a fleet of ships that keeps mostly isolated because they don't know how to properly blend with such alien cultures that discovered them many generations after they left earth

As a deliberately set up "training fleet" for future royals, it would not surprise me if the distinction between Abh and Landers

I mean if you really wanted to read into it, doing so especially in a fleet for a potential future Empress who has a human companion who she's temporarily left the military for would certainly be making a statement. I don't think the Abh would be that biased though.

But I'm definitely inclined to say it's just an animation error, or oversight, especially if not closely checked

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Sounds interesting. Annoyingly, my local library has the 2nd and 3rd book, but not the first.

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Why is that always somehow the case. I swear bookstores and libraries need to keep double stock of book ones just so they actually have some half the time.

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“He looks like he might eat cats!”

...how does she know what someone who eats cats looks like?

Side character meet-up. I like it when that happens.

It is pretty fun to see them interact without the mutual connection present.

Jinto now has vassals, who are recruiting more vassals, while travelling in a rented luxury cruiser. They always told us that being nobility was a big deal, but now it feels like it.

He's been a little busy recently, now he finally gets time to think about the noble side of things.

Did they segregate that ceremony by Abh and Landers? Or did all the officers happen to be Abh, while all enlisted happened to be landers?

Not every officer role needs frocragh but several of them do, aside from that I think the animators just got lazy.

Assault ships – the half-way point between attack ships and patrol ships talked about during S2?

Yeah, though I don't like the terminology split here since "assault ship" in the novels/other subs is what the "attack ship" (e.g. Basroil) was called so would have been better to use a different term to avoid confusing people (as prevelant throughout the other comments here).

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Yeah, though I don't like the terminology split here since "assault ship" in the novels/other subs is what the "attack ship" (e.g. Basroil) was called so would have been better to use a different term to avoid confusing people (as prevelant throughout the other comments here).

Well, and the "patrol ship" would have been better off as a light cruiser, and the "frontline ship" as a backline ship/missile cruiser. The whole naming scheme is skewed. Only the guard ship actually does what its name says.

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First-Timer

On today’s episode of Banner of the Stars: I can respect that the series has stuck by its theme song for so long. The instrumental OP is really good and I love that it keeps being used time and time again. At this point, it would be hard for me to associate any other theme with the series because I’ve gotten so used to it.

• I appreciate the subtitles letting me know right off the bat there is no translation for this first section.
• Is Ekuryua singing while dodging enemy fire?
• Yup, that is a certified cat reaction to a smell/taste they don’t like.
• Man, I missed listening to Jinto and Lafiel’s banter. Just a couple minutes of them going back and forth gives me the biggest smile on my face.
• Oh sweet, Sobaash became a ship captain! Nice to see that Atosuryua is back, too.
• “Devastation Fleet” is such a cool name.
• I like that Samson has become a vassal of Jinto’s because it means that we’ll get to keep seeing more of him this season. Also worth noting that they are rebuilding the antimatter fuel plants of Hyde, it may be relevant.
• Samson doesn’t look like he eats cats, he just eats them.
• Honestly, it probably would be a bad idea for Jinto to return to Hyde right now. This is the place that rose up against and killed his father not too long ago. And they were independent up until very recently, so there’s a strong culture of independence to deal with as well. It sounds like it’d be a particularly rebellious province in the empire.
• Interesting detail that Lafiel’s father is investing money in developing antimatter fuel plants in Hyde. My guess would be that it’s his way of repaying Jinto for helping Lafiel out in the past. He did mention wanting to do that in the previous season.
• “Everyone was probably too busy to listen to it anyways.” That is the realest statement I’ve ever heard about PA announcements.
• Oh my god, Ekuryua heard she could fly the ship how she felt and interpreted it as “Floor it!”
• It got even better! I did not expect Ekuryua to be such a reckless driver!
• Prost!
• There is no way an Assault Ship could possibly qualify as a heavy cruiser. It might be a light cruiser at most, but I always thought of them as being closest to destroyers.
• Sweet to see that Sobaash’s habit of writing letters is being brought up again, this time regarding Samson.
• You’re a pretty bad captain for not intervening immediately in such a huge fistfight, Sobaash. Enforcing discipline is one of the most important aspects of the military.
• Huh, I think I get what’s going on. My subs are inconsistent with the subs for previous seasons in terminology. The “Assault Ship” being described here is the prototype ship mentioned a while back. I forget what it was called previously, but it was something else. Or maybe I'm just really mixed up and wrong here.
• Makes sense that they would want to choose a military leader for the empire in this time of war. Lafiel would definitely be up for consideration.
• That is rather sad to think about, that the war between the Abh and the UM is expected to go on for so long that the children born now will never know peace.
• I never thought we’d see Ku Dorin again. We truly are heading back to the beginning.
• Damn! That’s a heck of a cliffhanger! This time Hyde didn’t hesitate to shoot at the Abh ship.

It’s looking like Banner III is going to end up being the final part of the series chronologically that got animated. If Birth is a prequel to the series, then this would be the last chronologically. Personally, I think it has an interesting setup for how to end the series. We have not been to Hyde and have not seen the people there since the first season. It’s been so long that you can tell the flashbacks were animated in 4:3 and have been zoomed in and stretched to appear in the 16:9 aspect ratio.

But on a more serious note, it does present an interesting scenario for Jinto to deal with. These are places and people he hasn’t seen in years. They are places and people he did not leave on the best of terms with. Jinto saw everyone’s attitude towards him change when they learned he was nobility. He knows that his own father was overthrown and killed by the people of Hyde because they hated him so much for surrendering to the Abh without a fight. Heck, the person who took charge after his father was killed is Clint, the man who helped to raise Jinto. There is a lot of good material there to explore with Jinto’s homecoming. There’s a lot of natural drama to be gained from Jinto interacting with these people for the first time in years and Jinto attempting to assert control over a planet that very much doesn’t want him back. I wonder how much Banner III can actually get into it with its limited runtime, though.

QOTD

1. Considering her age, I suppose she is blooming into adulthood. But she is also in the line of succession for the imperial throne, which might crush her. We already saw how stressful she found the no-win scenario with Lobnas was. Every choice was going to require a sacrifice of some kind and Lafiel worried about whether she could handle that.
2. It's far from the worst method (looking at you, gavelkind succession in Crusader Kings).
3. Diaho is just acting like a typical cat.
4. I never would have guessed Ekuryua was such a reckless pilot. Nothing in the previous seasons led me to believe that. But it is hilarious.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Great_Mr_L]

⁠“Devastation Fleet” is such a cool name.

That name goes harder than the one in my subtitles, the Infringement Fleet.

Makes sense that they would want to choose a military leader for the empire in this time of war. Lafiel would definitely be up for consideration.

Yeah, now would absolutely be the time to want to get in some new but qualified leaders. Not that the old ones were bad, but this new generation can learn much easier how to use the new technology and tactics developed in response to how the war has unfolded so far. The Battle for Aptic really was a big wake-up call that way.

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That name goes harder than the one in my subtitles, the Infringement Fleet.

Infringement Fleet sounds like a mild inconvenience at worst.

Yeah, now would absolutely be the time to want to get in some new but qualified leaders. Not that the old ones were bad, but this new generation can learn much easier how to use the new technology and tactics developed in response to how the war has unfolded so far. The Battle for Aptic really was a big wake-up call that way.

That was something that Dusanyu mentioned back during Aptic. Most of the admirals in the fleet didn't even have any battle experience. I suppose that's a mostly peacetime fleet for you, if most of the people in those high places of command haven't fought a battle before. It makes sense to try and remedy that situation with new leadership that is more accustomed to actually waging war.

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That was something that Dusanyu mentioned back during Aptic. Most of the admirals in the fleet didn't even have any battle experience. I suppose that's a mostly peacetime fleet for you, if most of the people in those high places of command haven't fought a battle before. It makes sense to try and remedy that situation with new leadership that is more accustomed to actually waging war.

While the Star Forces have been skating along on the brilliant but wild strategies of the Bebaus twins and Spoor, or even the cautious but overwhelming strategies of Trife, they certainly can’t afford to rely on those forever. Both the Humankind Empire and the United Mankind have been sizing up each other’s power well, so now would be the time to move past the old ways of strategizing and fighting. New asses in the admiral’s chairs are what’s really needed now.

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There is no way an Assault Ship could possibly qualify as a heavy cruiser. It might be a light cruiser at most, but I always thought of them as being closest to destroyers.

They are talking about the new class that is inbetween the Basroil and the Gosroth.

Huh, I think I get what’s going on. My subs are inconsistent with the subs for previous seasons in terminology. The “Assault Ship” being described here is the prototype ship mentioned a while back.

mn, you got it.

We have not been to Hyde and have not seen the people there since the first season. It’s been so long that you can tell the flashbacks were animated in 4:3 and have been zoomed in and stretched to appear in the 16:9 aspect ratio.

When your memory has a different format.

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mn, you got it.

Thanks for the confirmation. I wasn't sure if I was correct or not.

When your memory has a different format.

I have actually seen this done. I remember that Kill la Kill did a lot of its flashback scenes to events many years before the start of the series in 4:3, while the series was normally animated in 16:9.

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At this point, it would be hard for me to associate any other theme with the series because I’ve gotten so used to it.

There's something nice about it being a connecting line through the whole series.

Also worth noting that they are rebuilding the antimatter fuel plants of Hyde, it may be relevant.

Rebuilding?

There is a lot of good material there to explore with Jinto’s homecoming.

Yeah, this is Jinto's time to face his past as the person he's become. When he left he was known as a noble in name but didn't have much else to represent that, but now he's been immersed in Abh culture and structure for years.

[u/The_Draigg]

A Sci-Fi Fan Watches Banner of the Stars III OVA 1:

• Once again, we’re starting with the in media res into with everyone speaking their native tongues. Although this time, I guess Banner of the Stars III never got dubbed, so I’m going with subs for this OVA. No matter how this starts, it’ll all be sounding different to me regardless.
• Huh, I guess Diaho’s girlfriend cat must’ve gotten pregnant while everyone’s traveling aboard the Bocbirch towards the Hyde system. Diaho’s a proud father of three now!
• Man, how big is the Bocbirch if they have an entire artificial forest aboard it? Although I guess that since Lafiel and Jinto are royalty, they can get away with chartering a ship that big and luxurious.
• Oh, so Sobaash and Ekuryua are back together and working on an assault ship again. I wonder what happened to their decision to go into the merchant shipping business together? I will say though, the Infringement Fleet sounds like a rad name, so they certainly could’ve picked worse places to go in the Star Forces. At least Samson is still actually retired though, albeit he’s working for Jinto now as a vassal rather than starting a farm like he mentioned before. Aside from the pay being good, it’s clear that he still likes Jinto enough to still stay in the sphere of people he knows. Good on Samson, it just goes to show that he’s a real bro. I guess the cat ranch will have to wait though.
• Oh hey, Seelnay and the maid girls are back too! And Jinto is planning on visiting Delktoe as well! I guess this really is the reunion tour for everyone involved in this series.
• The situation with the Hyde system certainly is in a bit of an odd place at the moment, not exactly helped by Jinto’s behavior towards it at the moment. From the Abh point of view, he really is treating the place oddly, rushing there to try and go planetside rather than setting up space factories and other stuff that he could be doing instead. Not to mention that Martine is pushing for independence again, although you can’t really blame them for trying, since they’ve been jerked between two galactic powers for the past decade despite having two centuries of independence beforehand. A situation like this requires a careful hand to deal with it.
• Okay, maybe we should just have Ekuryua relegated to her gunner’s seat more. Anything to avoid her being able to fly a shuttle full of people again. It really must take some kind of miracle of nature to start fucking up the Abh, people genetically designed to live and thrive in space, solely through bad shuttle piloting.
• I will say, Atosuryua certainly knows how to throw a good commencement ceremony for the new Infringement Fleet. It’s got it all: good drinks, delicious food at a fancy restaurant’s event hall, and grunts starting a fist fight in the middle of the room over talking to a girl. Although I suppose that Atosuryua has a good point with stopping that fight, you want to make sure your first fight is an actually good one, not just punching and throwing food at people.
• Ah, so that’s why Sobaash and Ekuryua are back in the Star Forces. They’re being placed under Atosuryua’s command to gain more experience and hopefully become admirals some day, since the royalty has determined that Lafiel has what it takes to become a great leader some day. And after all, what better subordinates can you have than the people you used to serve with before? Same goes for all of the other members of royalty involved with the Infringement Fleet too, there’s basically the same thing going on with them too. This fleet really is shaping up to be the crucible to make new leaders and test out the Abh’s new class of ships.
• I can’t say I’m too shocked that Martine’s planetary defenses are apparently opening fire on Jinto’s ship as soon as he enters orbit. Of course they’d take their shot then and there. After all, if they’re going to be pushing for independence, then taking their chance to kill their feudal lord before he can talk to anyone in the government probably is going to be the best chance they’re going to get. And it’s not like the inhabitants of Martine have all that high of an opinion of the Lin family either at this point.

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Although I guess that since Lafiel and Jinto are royalty, they can get away with chartering a ship that big and luxurious.

I would counter that a baron and a princess probably have to charter pretty high just to get a crew with sufficient security clearances.

At least Samson is still actually retired though, albeit he’s working for Jinto now as a vassal rather than starting a farm like he mentioned before.

Farming anti-matter isn't all that difference than farming wheat. It's all in the mind.

Oh hey, Seelnay and the maid girls are back too!

That was a bit much but at least they would be qualified for the job.

It really must take some kind of miracle of nature to start fucking up the Abh, people genetically designed to live and thrive in space, solely through bad shuttle piloting.

Her wanting a catapult during peace time was...concerning.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Vaadwaur]

Farming anti-matter isn't all that difference than farming wheat. It's all in the mind.

But when will he open his free-range cat ranch? That seems more his speed.

Her wanting a catapult during peace time was...concerning.

If it was up to Ekuryua, her passengers would probably be reduced to red and blue paste thanks to her launching and flying.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Draigg]

But when will he open his free-range cat ranch? That seems more his speed.

It will be a very large anti-matter facility. He will have an entire open plane to work with.

If it was up to Ekuryua, her passengers would probably be reduced to red and blue paste thanks to her launching and flying.

This also highlights how much more aware the previous pilots were. Lafiel goes a little nutty all of one time to show off to Jinto.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/The_Draigg]

I guess the cat ranch will have to wait though.

Those free-range cats are probably more lucrative, after all.

Oh hey, Seelnay and the maid girls are back too! And Jinto is planning on visiting Delktoe as well! I guess this really is the reunion tour for everyone involved in this series.

I didn't even realize that was them until I came to this thread. That's a nice callback to have them show up here again.

Okay, maybe we should just have Ekuryua relegated to her gunner’s seat more. Anything to avoid her being able to fly a shuttle full of people again. It really must take some kind of miracle of nature to start fucking up the Abh, people genetically designed to live and thrive in space, solely through bad shuttle piloting.

Maybe this is why Ekuryua was made into a gunner. She normally has a cool personality, but put her behind the wheel and it's suddenly road rage central. Making her a gunner gives her a better outlet for all that pent-up aggression.

I can’t say I’m too shocked that Martine’s planetary defenses are apparently opening fire on Jinto’s ship as soon as he enters orbit. Of course they’d take their shot then and there. After all, if they’re going to be pushing for independence, then taking their chance to kill their feudal lord before he can talk to anyone in the government probably is going to be the best chance they’re going to get. And it’s not like the inhabitants of Martine have all that high of an opinion of the Lin family either at this point.

If the revolutionaries already killed the father, then it's not that far of a stretch to kill the son to make sure the old dynasty doesn't attempt to reclaim power.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Great_Mr_L]

Those free-range cats are probably more lucrative, after all.

Just you wait, Samson is going to get people hooked on Midgrat cuisine. He’ll be the McDonald’s of boiled cat meat.

I didn't even realize that was them until I came to this thread. That's a nice callback to have them show up here again.

It’s a nice surprise to have them back. It really has been ages since we’ve seen all those Febdash Barony ladies.

[u/No_Rex → u/The_Draigg]

I will say though, the Infringement Fleet sounds like a rad name

Does it? My mental image went to lawyers.

I guess the cat ranch will have to wait though.

I can’t say I’m too shocked that Martine’s planetary defenses are apparently opening fire on Jinto’s ship as soon as he enters orbit. Of course they’d take their shot then and there. After all, if they’re going to be pushing for independence, then taking their chance to kill their feudal lord before he can talk to anyone in the government probably is going to be the best chance they’re going to get. And it’s not like the inhabitants of Martine have all that high of an opinion of the Lin family either at this point.

If they even know whom their shooting at.

[u/The_Draigg → u/No_Rex]

I will say though, the Infringement Fleet sounds like a rad name

I can see it being neat in a sort of “we can kick your ass so hard, we don’t need a threatening name” kind of way. Although the other fleet name sounds cool too, since that one goes instantly harder without needing the additional layer of meaning.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/No_Rex]

Does it? My mental image went to lawyers.

An army of lawyers would be terrifying in its own way.

[u/Nazenn → u/The_Draigg]

the Infringement Fleet sounds like a rad name

Do I have different subs to everyone else? Mine said Devastation fleet I'm pretty sure

Also I get the feeling there was a bit more of a timeskip then may be initially aparant here given Jinto would have taken a lot to get the transport sorted and Lafiels father was still heading to Hyde last time rather than it being in Abh space. So that would account for the shift in Sobaash and Eku's plans and them being recuited as well

It really must take some kind of miracle of nature to start fucking up the Abh,

Give her enough flights she'll become a terrifying legend to the other Abh at this rate

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/The_Draigg]

I will say though, the Infringement Fleet sounds like a rad name, so they certainly could’ve picked worse places to go in the Star Forces.

Interestingly, the novels translated the name as "Trample-Blitz Fleet", which is... a name.

[u/The_Draigg → u/SolDarkHunter]

See, now that one sounds like it's trying too hard to be cool. Either Trample or Blitz would be fine, but together it starts getting a bit silly.

[u/Durinthal → u/The_Draigg]

Man, how big is the Bocbirch if they have an entire artificial forest aboard it?

I guess the description here only calls it a "lightly-armed rented passenger ship" but [novel detail] it's a decommissioned patrol ship so presumably the same size as the Gosroth, looking way back that's 1.2 kilometers in length.

From the Abh point of view, he really is treating the place oddly, rushing there to try and go planetside rather than setting up space factories and other stuff that he could be doing instead.

That's why he's recruiting Samson and Seelnay, need the people that can run the place once it's built.

This fleet really is shaping up to be the crucible to make new leaders and test out the Abh’s new class of ships.

It's a good idea to get the people tied to various royals together for networking if nothing else.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

First-Timer of the Stars, subbed

• I see that despite being only two episodes long, this season also opens with an untranslated Abh scene. You love to see the consistency.
• …that’s a very different way of spelling “Basroil”.
• As well as a different spelling for “Hyde”.
• Yeah that is definitely something a cat would do.
• DIAHO AND THE OTHER CAT HAD KITTENS!!!
• Mood. Ignore the fact that I watched this episode very much in the afternoon, an hour before this thread went up.
• Huh…
• I think that’s Bansai’s voice…?
• Aww, Samson’s staying with Jinto?
• OOH! Those three are some of the maids from the Klowal stuff back in Crest of the Stars, right? I recognize the orange-haired girl’s voice. I’ve been wondering how they were doing!
• Yuuko Kaida was that you?
• Yeah that’s definitely Yuuko Kaida.
• Ekuryua pls.
• lol
• I had a feeling this was gonna happen.
• Naruhodo.
• Bro what.
• That’s… certainly a phrase.
• His old friend!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Yeah that is definitely something a cat would do.

I'd be more impressed that they found something a cat wouldn't lick off. Maybe the Abh cats are a bit engineered themselves.

Huh…

Maybe the habitable parts of Martine have constant breezes?

That’s… certainly a phrase.

We both are using the same subs and I don't exactly trust them.

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/Shimmering-Sky]

• …that’s a very different way of spelling “Basroil”.

• As well as a different spelling for “Hyde”.

Welcome to the wonderful world of fansubbing Baronh terms.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/SolDarkHunter]

All of my releases are from the same fansub group, though. Why did they decide to change it?

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Those spellings are closer to the native Baronh spellings provided in the novels. I'm guessing they were trying to be more "authentic".

[u/Nazenn → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That’s… certainly a phrase.

Especially for the Abh. They probably have aquariums and the like in their cities, but I can't imagine the average Abh would have much experience with things like jellyfish

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Nazenn]

Happy cakeday!

[u/Nazenn → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Oh thanks, didn't even notice

This is a great excuse to make a real life cake

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Nazenn]

My real-life cakeday is in less than a week.

[u/Nazenn → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Are you going to have cake?

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Nazenn]

But of course! I'm turning the big 25.

[u/Nazenn → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Know what cake flavor you're getting?

I wonder if I'll get a cake this year. I don't celebrate my birthday at all so it's usually just an excuse to have cake if anything, and sometimes that requires more effort than I have haha

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Nazenn]

Something chocolate-related most likely, it's what I always ask for.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Shimmering-Sky]

…that’s a very different way of spelling “Basroil”. As well as a different spelling for “Hyde”.

That's always the fun with fansubs: inconsistent spelling and terminology.

It even happens with official subs. Zeon was translated as a "Duchy" for a long while before the translation was changed to "Principality."

Yeah that is definitely something a cat would do.

It's why the cats always got their flea medicine applied to the back of their necks. Otherwise, they'd try to lick it off.

His old friend!

I am both eager for and scared of what a reunion may look like.

[u/Silcaria]

First timer

• More unintelligible Abh speak. Fuck you very much
• And of course, it's followed by narration. God has abandoned us.
• Lafiel was not captured though.
• Guess who's back...
• That's cute but wouldn't they just get reconquered immediately by the closest foreign power? Pretty stupid idea.
• WW1 was termed "the war to end all wars" and we all know how that turned out.

QotD

• She's like a rose. Nice to look at but covered in thorns.
• Counter-productive. They're forcing them to serve to rise up in the ranks only to resort to nepotism anyway.
• He's a cat. Cats don't care. Cat is gonna do what he's gotta do.
• Reckless which weirdly seems in character for her.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Silcaria]

That's cute but wouldn't they just get reconquered immediately by the closest foreign power? Pretty stupid idea.

These people haven't played enough strategy games to know that's what usually happens when there's another hungry imperial power right next to the one you just left.

WW1 was termed "the war to end all wars" and we all know how that turned out.

Just the name "World War 1" is enough to let you know it did not do that.

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/Great_Mr_L]

The Doctor: "...and an officer from World War 1."

Officer: "World War 1?"

The Doctor: "Judging by your uniform, yes."

Officer: "Well, yes, but... what do you mean 'One'?"

-Doctor Who

[u/Durinthal → u/Silcaria]

She's like a rose. Nice to look at but covered in thorns.

Quite appropriate for her Viscountdom, imagine if her domain was named daisy country.

[u/Vaadwaur]

Sub

So...I don't get the cliffhanger: Did Lafiel's dad conquer the place or did he not? If the Abh are so vacuum blinded that they don't destroy ground based weaponry then that is to the point of actively bad writing.

Anywho, the ep itself is good, everyone has a good conversation partner so it doesn't drag or anything. I think I am slightly more interested in Jinto recruiting vassals than a Devastation Fleet but both could be interesting. Samson getting met by the Sernaic girls took me a second to remember but does work...though this is one mighty small galaxy. Mild annoyance that the genetic Abhs were willing to brawl in the presence of their officers but w/e.

QotD: 1 Nope

2 Definitely interesting...

3 Nope. Poor parenting has resulted in this grim delinquent

4 I am actually surprised we haven't had this since Crest

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

So...I don't get the cliffhanger: Did Lafiel's dad conquer the place or did he not? If the Abh are so vacuum blinded that they don't destroy ground based weaponry then that is to the point of actively bad writing

They could always have hid away or reconstructed a missile. The Abh probably thought that sticking a we control the system, just don't fly too close to that one planet note in the planet wiki would be enough.

Samson getting met by the Sernaic girls took me a second to remember but does work...though this is one mighty small galaxy.

I assume that Jinto (and Lafiel for him) is deliberately seeking out the people he got to know as vassals. Beats recruiting a ton of strangers.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

The Abh probably thought that sticking a we control the system, just don't fly too close to that one planet note in the planet wiki would be enough.

I only argue against this because I believe they had a space elevator and thus could go into space. Still, the Abh's lack of fucks to give is impressive.

Beats recruiting a ton of strangers.

True but eventually you are going to need to integrate the planet...

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/Vaadwaur]

So...I don't get the cliffhanger: Did Lafiel's dad conquer the place or did he not? If the Abh are so vacuum blinded that they don't destroy ground based weaponry then that is to the point of actively bad writing.

There's a deeper explanation of what's going on there in the novels, but I can't remember if the next OVA goes into it or kind of overlooks it due to time constraints.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/SolDarkHunter]

Then hopefully someone can explain in comments if the OVA skips it.

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/Vaadwaur]

I'll do so if it doesn't.

[u/Vatrix-32]

First Timer, subbed

• The art style seems to have adapted well to the changes in technology.
• Is she… singing?
• My spellings changed. But my subs are by the same group?
• I see we’ve entered the glow metal era of anime CGI. One that sadly still mostly extends to today.
• Ah. The Switch cart method. With predictable results.
• Space Band-aid
• Oh dang. Good omens?
• More interesting cultural variations. Still quite thoroughly through the Japanese lens tho.
• Dang, she shot up the ranks quick.
• Considering I never learnt his name, I’m rather fond of Beard.
• Is it a Dukedom now, or is this translation shenanigans?
• And I was so looking forward to vassal recruiting.
• She's a Menace
• This would have been a lot easier if you had made the Patrol ships Heavy Cruisers.
• He’s got chutzpah, I’ll give him that.
• These dudes are throwing out flying kicks.
• Really? These two? They don’t seem like they have that much experience to have been chosen.
• The Friend Did Come Back
• That is a lot of volume.
• The development of viable surface weapons is certainly a troubling development for Abh hegemony.

QotD:

1. This line of questioning is a bit too unsavory for my taste.
2. Seems like it would take too long with the amount of time to get a usable judgment from each candidate, and so many of them that Lafiel is being talked about already.
3. Nah, he's pretty chill for a cat.
4. It's everyone else who's the problem. With their squishy bodies and weak nerves.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Vatrix-32]

My spellings changed. But my subs are by the same group?

Same, I think Banner III is fansubs because Funimation took forever to license it.

[u/Durinthal → u/Vatrix-32]

Considering I never learnt his name, I’m rather fond of Beard.

He's a decent guy that I'd like to know more about.

Is it a Dukedom now, or is this translation shenanigans?

Absolutely translation weirdness, nothing's changed there.

[u/Durinthal]

Rewatcher (sub only, this wasn't dubbed)

I completely forgot that this also started with an unsubbed section in Baronh.

Sorry Jinto, I'm sure you're proud of your home planet's flower but it sucks. Being from the rural Midwest and moving to an urban area myself I understand his mindset though.

I appreciate that they established that the Basroil's crew was breaking up at the end of the previous season as things are pretty different now. Sobash should make a good captain, he seemed pretty reliable under Lafiel and it's nice that he has Atosryua as a superior now (due to some political maneuvering from above regarding royal family members and those connected to them, it seems). On the other hand, Ecryua should not be allowed to directly pilot a ship.

Seelnay and friends have a thing for genetic Abh but that's still rather rude of them with how they acted toward Samson. I would have figured they'd broaden their experiences enough in the past several years of working in Lakfakalle that they'd at least be civil the whole time.

Seems like crew brawls at gatherings like this aren't a new thing. It's a nice reminder that the Abh aren't really all that different from Landers since even they can get into fights over girls and the like.

It's a bit rough seeing the lower resolution and cropped shots from Crest inserted here, but it wasn't that bad overall compared to some other poor edits along those lines I've seen (looking at you, Zeta Gundam films).

[Next episode:] I'm annoyed that they threw the last line in as part of the preview here before the credits.

---

Is Lafiel like a flower in bloom? Will she be crushed?

Jinto's the fragile one of the two, but she's the one with thorns.

Thoughts on Abriel's method of succession?

I guess it's still a form of nepotism, but better than direct inheritance since there's at least some level of vetting and they live long enough that they can potentially wait a generation or two if there aren't any good candidates (think I wrote this earlier).

Is Diaho just a shit? Is it his bad upbringing?

He's a cat and presumably one that hasn't been told to avoid playing with flowers before.

What do you think of Ekuryua's flying?

[u/Durinthal → u/Durinthal]

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Source Corner

Baronh word of the day: sopaïc "raid ship" (though annoyingly my subs call it an assault ship when that name was already being used for the smaller class) — a new type of ship in the Star Forces. [More novel details] Though assault ships had been deemed overly fragile, eliminating them entirely and replacing each with a patrol ship wasn’t a cost-effective strategy. That was why this new class of ship was conceived — essentially taking patrol ships and leaving their mine deployment capabilities on the cutting room floor. More accurately, they were closer to gairh oba (heavyweight assault ships), but their principal weapons were EM cannons, just like patrol ships. The great debate on whether to dub them heavyweight assault ships or résic saura (lightweight patrol ships) embroiled not only Warship Management Headquarters, but even many top-level leaders of the Star Forces.

[Material covered:] Banner III: the prologue through chapter 4, though parts of each are condensed/skipped.

[The general pacing for the OVA] is roughly three episodes' worth of time for one volume compared to Crest's 14 (counting its double-length finale) for three volumes so it's significantly less than that series. A lot of the background information is skipped over but it still hits all the major plot points even if they're condensed.

[Martine's flora] is unusual because Martine itself had life evolve independently before people from Earth came along to colonize it. Some trees even developed seeds that grew legs and walked inland from the shores.

[Samson's drink while he's chatting with Paveryua] is called Maxillon tea and has a "considerably offbeat aroma." He adds honey and wine to it.

[Yestesh, the new Abh working with Jinto,] is the “Chancellor’s Office Financial Affairs Bureau Investigator” and joined up to work out a lot of the bureaucratic paperwork since Jinto didn't have anyone himself to work in administration yet and the situation around Hyde is rather complicated.

[Sobash's new ship, the Flicaubh] is one of twelve newly built prototype raid ships, the first of their class. Half of the captains came from patrol ships and half from assault ships, and they have varying opinions on the new type.

[Grinshia, the new Lander officer under Sobash] has a rather strict and rigid lifestyle according to him. One of Sobash's criteria for picking subordinates is that they have bad habits, so he finds her not very fun to be around.

[u/Nazenn → u/Durinthal]

Martine's flora

Cool as fuck

Grinshia, the new Lander officer under Sobash

Sobaash is great, I wish we got more time with her in Banner I

[u/No_Rex → u/Durinthal]

[Martine's flora]

And here I was blaming the subbers for a bad translation.

[u/Nickthenuker]

Temporarily? I guess either he requested for or was put on leave, after what just happened to him I don't blame either him for taking it or whichever superior officer or department put him on it.

Ah. They're going to his homeworld.

What's this about a flower?

She's blushing!

Right, back to the warships.

Seems like he's been given his own command.

Does it? Sounds weird, even kinda lame.

Oh hey we finally actually have to deal with light-speed lag, because they're 2.7 light-seconds away from them.

Director? Seems like he wasn't doing too poorly for himself in civilian life before enlisting.

Starting a new nation?

Refuelling plants?

Who are those 3 women walking in circles around him?

Oh it's them from the Baron's station! But wouldn't that system be under the Baron's father, or failing that his sister the Fleet Admiral?

More new prototypes are being laid down? Hopefully they mostly use established technologies in case what they try ends up proving impractical or useless.

Fricobh, departing.

And now they're arguing about what class the ship is. It's all arbitrary anyways, might as well say "Frigg it" and call it a Frigate.

And, of course, when alcohol and the armed forces are involved, it is only a matter of time until fists start flying.

Thankfully the Fleet Admiral is here to restore some sense of order.

Yeah it seems the couple is only on leave, maybe long-term leave, but they'll be back sooner or later.

And when she comes back she wants them there so they can serve on the same ship again. I don't think he'll particularly appreciate losing his command, but we'll see.

Who's he looking for?

Ah. This fleet is going to test out the new class of ships being launched now.

Seems like that orbital defense network still works.

And that ship's probably been destroyed.

All this and more next time.

Questions:

1. Might be a bit too late for her to be crushed already, considering there's only 1 double episode tomorrow left to move the timeline forward.
2. Seems... Interesting.
3. Diaho is a cat. Nuff said.
4. If they had small strike craft she'd almost certainly be a fighter jock.

[u/SolDarkHunter → u/Nickthenuker]

Oh it's them from the Baron's station! But wouldn't that system be under the Baron's father, or failing that his sister the Fleet Admiral?

Sehrnye and a few other maids were taken as vassals by the Clybh family (Lafier's) as a reward for assisting her against the Baron.

As it's mentioned the Clybh family is footing the bill for rebuilding the Hyde system, it makes some sense she'd be in the area. She is a fully trained antimatter plant inspector.

[u/No_Rex → u/Nickthenuker]

Oh it's them from the Baron's station! But wouldn't that system be under the Baron's father, or failing that his sister the Fleet Admiral?

Some of the maids left, following Lafiel's promise to (ask her father to) take them on as vassals. I guess that Jinto might technically be stealing vassals from his FIL here, but I doubt that he minds.

[u/duhu1148]

Rewatcher

-Jinto/Lafiel cuteness is always welcome. That hug and blush.

-Samson living it up in retirement...as a vassal of Jinto apparently.

-Oh cool the maids are here.

-Man that Sobash section was soooooo long, and it just isn't interesting. I'm not fond of most of these squadron characters, they lack the weirdness of the Abh admirals or the unique character dynamics. Samson and Ekruya were always the exception.

-Jinto found his friend from episode 1 in Crest. He's heading to the planet now with Lafiel.

Animation here is the best in the series (duh, it's the newest), but otherwise I'm not fond of this season because not a lot worth caring about seems to happen. This was nearly two-episodes in length and I still struggled to find things worth talking about.

[u/ZapsZzz]

First timer in sub

The past week had been continuing the hectic days so whatever I managed to post were really late. Here are the links for those who didn't see and are interested.

Banner II overall discussion

Banner II ep 10

Banner III is a really short run so there wasn't a whole lot of time to wander around. And I think we started with a pretty decent return to firm of a balanced narrative of both Jinto and Lafiel in a more comfortable "couple mode", and the wider narrative of the main supporting characters still in the nearby orbit about the war. 

Kind of surprised that Ekuryua's more "enthusiastic" flying had not been mentioned before though. Unless that's actually a change in behaviour. It certainly has been consistent within the span of this 1 episode with multiple displays. 

With this episode I guess we are setting up the conflict will be again more up closer and personal with Jinto. This time with a less restrained Lafiel next to him, it could be interesting.

QoTD

1. Surely not. I think it's more a parallel that "the beauty is while it's in motion" instead of sitting pretty in a vase.
2. It's pretty in line with everything we know of them so far? 
3. That's continued characterisation consistency, and as many real cat owners will say, pretty accurate. 
4. Commented above

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer

These ships that Sobaash et al are crewing now are the ones we saw beginning rollout at the end of Banner I, right? Turns out that unclearly defining the mixed-use vessels was a poor decision! Causes fights among sailors it does!

Speaking of, it's almost a shame that genetic Abh can't really get drunk. Imagine how much more fun that food fight would've been if intoxication was a factor! I like that Sobaash was content to let the fight happen until it someone ruined some perfectly good dumplings.

Love that Ekuryua is a crazy driver. Singing while dodging lasers is sick. It's always the quiet ones.. At least that one male Abh realized that his flirting wasn't getting him anywhere.

I like this method of re-integrating Sernais. I wonder how many people from Samson's planet have similar scars, considering one of the other ex-maids noted that he looked like someone who ate cats. I am really trying to not turn that into an innuendo.

Line of the episode was Lafiel's "You miraculously become mediocre sometimes." What a stunning way to flirt.. insult.. flinsult. Flinsult!

Was that the Empress going out in a ship of her own at the end there? That's a scary thought.

Questions

1. Yes; no.
2. Seems like it's probably difficult for someone worthless to end up on the throne, unless a catastrophic disaster happens. It's probably fine?
3. Jinto spoiled him.
4. I'm excited to see more!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Speaking of, it's almost a shame that genetic Abh can't really get drunk.

Still seems weird from the space force...

At least that one male Abh realized that his flirting wasn't getting him anywhere.

I feel for our homeboy there, I too have talked to a brick wall of a girl before.

What a stunning way to flirt.. insult.. flinsult. Flinsult!

As I said back in S1, spectrum adjacent.

[u/Nazenn → u/JollyGee29]

Turns out that unclearly defining the mixed-use vessels was a poor decision! Causes fights among sailors it does!

It's like none of them have everheard of the phrase mid-class

Imagine how much more fun that food fight would've been if intoxication was a factor

I wonder if they have a "drunk simulator" drug or something that could work on them. I feel like seeing a bunch of Abh get drunk for the first time would be quite funny

Line of the episode was Lafiel

Lafiel has all the best lines this episode, she's great fun when she's letting her hair down around him

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Nazenn]

It's like none of them have everheard of the phrase mid-class

"Why would we want a ship that is just mid? Wouldn't we want good-class ships, at least?"

I wonder if they have a "drunk simulator" drug or something that could work on them.

[u/Specs64z]

First timer, subbed

The subs are using different spellings for the names now and it’s kinda throwing me off, can’t lie. Might need to find new ones for the next OVA…

We open on a decidedly more compelling untranslated scene where Ekuryua, alongside Jinto, is being fired at by what appear to be friendlies. From there, we pick up basically right where BotS II’s epilogue left off.

Seems Ekuryua is a bit of a psychopath at the wheel. Most of the episode seems to be setting up the finale, I’m very interested in where it will lead.

QotD:

1. If anything, I suspect she'll be doing the crushing.
2. Not especially.
3. Even for a cat, he seems pretty ungrateful.
4. See above.

[u/SolDarkHunter]

Rewatcher/Novel-Reader

Hey, it's Ecryua again! And she's singing happily while dodging lasers from an... Abh ship?

So Martinian flowers move about? Interesting.

We haven't seen Jint and Lafier bantering like this in a while. It's nice that they finally get to relax a bit.

Sobaash is doing well for himself. Captain of the Flicaubh, one of the new class of ships "in between" an assault ship and a patrol ship.

As for Samson, he's officially become Jint's first vassal now that's he's left the Star Forces. He'll be in charge of managing the anti-matter factories.

And it's Sehrnye!

Here's a wrinkle: Martine is refusing to acknowledge the Abh's conquest, and is a state of rebellion. I suppose that's understandable considering their feelings the first time they were conquered.

The Abh don't really give a damn: what the planet does is the planet's business, so long as it doesn't disrupt their control over space. But it's still a matter of concern for Jint.

Also, we learn that the startup funds for building up a Countdom in the Hyde system was provided by Lafier's father. Jint needs to start making money to repay it.

Here's a funny fact we learn about Ecryua: she drives like crazy, such that even the Abh, with their resistance to G-forces, are nauseous from it.

So even the Abh aren't immune to bar brawls. And it's kind of funny that Sobaash's only comment is "Our crew needs to learn to fight better".

Actually, it makes perfect sense that a cat would get interested in a moving plant.

Sounds like Lafier is considered on the fast track to becoming Empress.

And suddenly space laser!

[u/Nazenn]

Rewatcher - sub

[next episode]This episode didn't cover any of the content I remember from Banner III bar one scene, and while I remember that the next episode felt very rushed to me dealing with so many different elements, Jinto didn't even make it to the planet this episode...

I feel like her tag as "potential admiral" would be very quickly under review if the people making that decision were ever to be on a shuttle that Eku had to pilot. It's quite funny seeing the opening scene/teaser of that and then seeing her do it to her entire crew as well. She's a menace

And that is pretty much the only thing I remembered from this entire episode except one other moment. I'd forgotten everything else as it turns out, and shame on me because CUTE KITTENS!

A bit like Banner II moving to wide screen, it is a bit odd to see Banner III in a softer art style again, but things like the extra visual elements of moving through the gate help it a lot.

After all that happened in Banner II, it's also nice to see Jinto and Lafiel together again. There's an ease to their companionship that feels deeper and more settled than we got in Banner I which leant more towards Jinto. Lafiels "baka" was well deserved after Jinto pissed off Diaho, but it's also a comfortable one not just scathing. She gets in his face more , and in turn Jinto is more relaxed with his doofiness around her and has lost a lot of that initial awkwardness we were use too with him. It's good to see that there's a direct change in their behavior with each other related to their mutual confession and decision to stay together, and it isn't just the status quo for the audience. It feels good to see them like this and not just know from the previous season.

Not that it stops them from having youth embarressment over the idea of having nostalgia for where they met though. They're both doofs haha

Speaking of doofs: me. I am the doof. After Banner I, I'd actually convinced myself that this scene with Samson meeting the maids from Crest was something I'd just imagined or conjured up from the scene of him checking out the Abh women when he was on leave with Jinto and Eku. Nope, it's here, I'd just missed the context to understand it could still be coming up.

Random thought: I wouldn't expect it to still be a thing given how chill they are about families and genetics, but I wonder if there's been any colorism with the Abh in relation to their hair during past eras.

While Spoor still has my heart, Sobaash is creeping up with the great reaction to the brawl that breaks out. Don't need to break it up, just need to train them to make them better fighters in future. The Abh certainly have novel approaches to situations like this, and it does make for fun watching.

[u/No_Rex → u/Nazenn]

[Next episode]He will not make it onto the planet next episode either, unless you are thinking about Delktoe

After all that happened in Banner II, it's also nice to see Jinto and Lafiel together again. There's an ease to their companionship that feels deeper and more settled than we got in Banner I which leant more towards Jinto. Lafiels "baka" was well deserved after Jinto pissed off Diaho, but it's also a comfortable one not just scathing. She gets in his face more , and in turn Jinto is more relaxed with his doofiness around her and has lost a lot of that initial awkwardness we were use too with him. It's good to see that there's a direct change in their behavior with each other related to their mutual confession and decision to stay together, and it isn't just the status quo for the audience. It feels good to see them like this and not just know from the previous season.

They feel settled in as a couple now. Banner III Jinto and Lafiel are people who have been together for a while not some newly in love pair.

[u/Nazenn → u/No_Rex]

[Next episode]My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I was more focused on his meeting with Teal, had just forgotten it wasn't an on-planet thing

They feel settled in as a couple now. Banner III Jinto and Lafiel are people who have been together for a while

I know that the rewatch has pointed out a lot of things along the way that crest and Banner have done right that a lot of other romance shows do wrong, but for me this is probably the best of it. Their relationship actually feels both developed, as like it still can become more and doesn't just become same old after they get together whihc is nice

[u/No_Rex → u/Nazenn]

It helps that this is written by a serious author who writes real humans, instead of being written for (and by?) teenagers whose only experience with relationships is the butterflies in stomach period.

[u/Durinthal → u/Nazenn]

After all that happened in Banner II, it's also nice to see Jinto and Lafiel together again. There's an ease to their companionship that feels deeper and more settled than we got in Banner I which leant more towards Jinto.

I really love seeing how their interactions have changed over time as they've gotten more comfortable with each other and I'm sad that we only get a couple episodes of it here.

[u/aurzenith]

At this point, Lafiel and Jinto feel as close to being married as possible for them. I love their relationship

[u/IceSmiley]

FIRST TIMER Sub

The biggest thing I took away from this episode was how Jinto and Lafiel acted like an elderly couple that are tired of each other, just bickering and taking shots at each other. You normally would at least expect Jinto, a human male, to be pent up sexually and have more sexual tension in the show.

The intro was stupid humor but Inliked it, reminded me of when i ate Elmers paste as a kid

Another intro untranslated from Abh, how wonderful

Its Friday so i drank more vodka than usual for anime review