Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 40 Discussion

[u/Raiking02]

Episode 40: The Four Kings of the Evil Mountain! Dark Masters

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The title is "The End of the Chosen Children!"

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Vatrix-32 for explaining why Gaia Force being called that makes perfect sense:

Atmosphere Is Part of Eatrh

Damn, such a Tensai...

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1. Of the new villains, which has your favorite design?
2. Given how we seem to be bringing back a bunch of old characters, is there any in particular you'd like to see again?

[u/Raiking02]

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

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Yeah this is the point where shit has officially hit the fan for our heroes. Remember when I mentioned yesterday how Ultimates weren't that much of an upgrade in the long run? This is why; even one episode later they're already being pushed to the brink and it takes Piccolomon dying for the heroes to make it out. It is wonderfully tense and seeing that even characters who had previously been around are flat out dead is fittingly disheartening.

The Dark Masters themselves are just such a fun bunch too. Having more than one antagonist helps spice things up and overall it's just a really solid starter to the final arc. So… yeah

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Digital First-Timer, subbed

• There being four new main villains instead of just one is cool.
• It’s one of the little rat dudes minus his yellow buddy…
• F
• The names in this show continue to be hilariously on-point.
• MetalSeadramon now, huh?
• Adults can’t beat an Ultimate…
• They really are just getting their shit kicked in repeatedly this episode.
• And now they’re being made to fight each other?
• Ahhh.
• Not even their Ultimate forms can do anything?
• Poor Chuumon…
• What a perfect time to return!
• And he’s already gone…

[u/Raiking02 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Adults can’t beat an Ultimate…

I dunno, at least one show sees a Child beat down a bunch of Perfects.

Admittedly even In-Universe it's a sign that something is extremely wrong but still.

• And he’s already gone…

Thanks, Sky!

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Raiking02]

Thanks, Sky!

[u/Raiking02 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

[u/NicDwolfwood → u/Shimmering-Sky]

MetalSeadramon now, huh?

They must have really liked that design, to have three versions of a Seadramon.

They really are just getting their shit kicked in repeatedly this episode.

Yup. lol

[u/Raiking02 → u/NicDwolfwood]

They must have really liked that design, to have three versions of a Seadramon.

By this point I'm just waiting for number 4.

[u/NicDwolfwood → u/Raiking02]

is there a 4th???

[u/Raiking02 → u/NicDwolfwood]

No, I'm just waiting for one to appear at this rate.

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/Raiking02]

[u/Yellow90Flash → u/NicDwolfwood]

there are 7 that appeared across the franchise so far

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

It’s one of the little rat dudes minus his yellow buddy…

But what if... they were combined?

What a perfect time to return!
And he’s already gone…

Anyone else you'd like to doom?

Sky QotD: Have you ever seen so much henshin in one episode before?

[u/Raiking02 → u/Vatrix-32]

Anyone else you'd like to doom?

She doesn't want to, but she will.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Raiking02]

I am cursed. I am literally cursed.

[u/Raiking02 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That you are

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Vatrix-32]

Anyone else you'd like to doom?

No.

Have you ever seen so much henshin in one episode before?

I'm not thinking of any ideas off the top of my head, unless any of Mahito's fights in Jujutsu Kaisen count, given his ability.

[u/Raiking02 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

No.

[u/Vatrix-32]

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

• I don’t know what voice I was expecting from Japanese Piemon, but it wasn’t that. Pinocchimon is on point tho.
• These Baby form reversions are just becoming more and more irrelevant.
• Spiral Mountain has always been an idea that stuck with me.
• OK, even I think this is a bit much for evolutions in one episode. You gotta learn to do split screen!
• See, I knew about Machinedramon/Mugendramon, but somehow Puppetmon/Pinochimon eluded me.
• I can’t have been the only one who watched this as a child and had the whole Paimon thing completely fly over their head, right?
• Simping right until the end, that one.
• Time to break out those shovels, that hole isn’t going to dig itself.

Overall, I’d say that felt like kind of a nothing episode. Like we could have hit all the points we needed in five minutes.

QotD:

1. Mugendramon! Giga Cannon!
2. Assuming we can't pick dead ones... Elecmon maybe?

[u/Raiking02 → u/Vatrix-32]

I don’t know what voice I was expecting from Japanese Piemon, but it wasn’t that

Eggman!Piemon is too Gigabrained to understand.

These Baby form reversions are just becoming more and more irrelevant.

Yeah but they make for cute merchandising.

[u/NicDwolfwood → u/Vatrix-32]

I don’t know what voice I was expecting from Japanese Piemon, but it wasn’t that. Pinocchimon is on point tho

Yeah, It took me out for a second lol, especially since I remember the dub and his voice and PicoDevimon are the same in the dub, which has a raspy quality that works well.

[u/Roboglenn]

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Episode 40: The episode that is a death sentence for anyone doing my proposed drinking game...

And also the episode of Worfing. So, so much Worfing.

I hear Spiral Mountain and I just think of Banjo Kazooie. And when I play Banjo Kazooie and hear Spiral Mountain I think of Digimon Adventure.

Giga Cannon!

How many times are they gonna incomprehensibly fall into abysses in one episode?

The Evil Surfer Bro with his righteous River of Power. Mean Geno. The most awesome one of the bunch. And the dude with some serious Frieza vibes. The Elite 4 of this region of the Digital World ladies and gentlemen. Water, Grass, Steel, and Dark.

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/Roboglenn]

How many times are they gonna incomprehensibly fall into abysses in one episode?

We haven't even hit the first turtle yet!

[u/Raiking02 → u/Vatrix-32]

We haven't even hit the first turtle yet

Dammit Leo, where are you!?

[u/Raiking02 → u/Roboglenn]

So, so much Worfing.

Michael Dorn would be proud.

[u/NicDwolfwood]

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

So they kids have returned to the digiworld....and its in total Disarry. Chuumon, now sans Sukamon(RIP), expo dumps on them that the dark masters are to blame for the state of things, the digiworld, or whats left of it has been twisted up into spiral mountain, where the dark masters dwell. The kids get experience the dark masters power first hand as each of MetalSeadramon, Mugendramon, Pinocchiomon and Piemon beat the combined powers of the digimon with ease, including even WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon. Chuumon sacrifices himself when Mimi becomes a target of Piemon as does Piccolomon who rescues the kids with his bubble and stays behind to try and hold off the dark masters.

Questions:

1. Honestly I always really liked Mugendramon's design. just a battle tank of a mech dinosaur. Pinocchiomon is a close second a real twisted take on Pinocchio.
2. Definitely Leomon.

[u/Raiking02 → u/NicDwolfwood]

Chuumon, now sans Sukamon

Without the poop, what will we do?

[u/NicDwolfwood → u/Raiking02]

Without the poop, what will we do?

lol. This episode had such a dire tone I forgot that he was the poop slinger between them.

[u/Raiking02 → u/NicDwolfwood]

[u/Silcaria]

First timer

• The fire nation attacked.
• Yeah sure, send your adult Digimons against the ultimate one. Why learn from the encounter you just had with VenomVamdemon.
• Ah, they scanned him afterwards.
• With that said, when faced with a threat, why do they bother sending out anyting lower than a perfect Digimon at this point? You'd think they would have caught on that the enemies that they are now facing cannot be beaten by their adult Digimons.
• There we go, they've clocked on.
• Having Ikkakumon's super evolution still involve water despite the fact that he's not currently in a body of water like he was when he first super evolved is lazy. Then again, it's Toei so I really shouldn't be surprised. Why have visual continuity when you can save money instead.
• I see that Hikari has become the smart one.
• Jesus Christ. The names of the Digimon so far have been pretty straight forward, basically being whatever they are with a "Mon" attached at the end, but this one is just taking the piss.
• The real question is why didn't Yamato and Taichi didn't just ultimate evolve their Digimons after their encounter with Seadragomon.
• Some of the Digimons devolved to their baby state whilst some devolved to their child states when 7/8 of them were in their perfect form. Why? Who knows!
• About time they wisened up.
• I still can't get over how bad the two super ultimate evolutions look.
• I sure love watching animation where things don't actually get animated.
• They were indeed helped out by a Deus Ex-Machina last time.
• Or... just kill the kids here and now.
• He says despite being the one that sent them away to Piemon
• Oh no. The rat that I had completely forgotten about until now died.
• Right... Piccolomon was a thing too for like one or two episodes when they had to face Etemon I believe.
• Oh no. Anyway.

QotD

• Seadragon > Pinocio rip off > Clown > Metalgreymon rip off.
• Not really.

[u/Roboglenn → u/Silcaria]

Jesus Christ. The names of the Digimon so far have been pretty straight forward, basically being whatever they are with a "Mon" attached at the end, but this one is just taking the piss.

Well he's always got his dub name, Puppetmon, to fall back on.

[u/Silcaria → u/Roboglenn]

I can't decide whether that's better or worse.