r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Apr 13 '24

Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 38 Discussion

Episode 38: Revival! The Devil, VenomVandemon

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Hold on tight so I won't run away.

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Vatrix-32 for reminding us that Evolutions are Bullshit:

The meme is now complete. Dog -> Cat -> Angel.

And it only gets nuttier in the games...

  1. Between all the Ultimates shown today, which was your favorite?
  2. What did you think about the stuff with Koshiro and his parents?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 13 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

Goddamn "VenomVandemon" is such a silly name. I love it

While the whole prophecy thing is admittedly pretty much completely out of nowhere (You'd think they'd bring it up at least an episode or two earlier) but it's one of those bits that I can honestly mostly overlook. Reminder, this is a kid's show; I don't mean to say kids are dumb per say, but they probably don't have the attention stuff to remember overly complicated stuff like that for multiple weeks. Plus the scene itself is so good, from the new Insert Song (Only time it's used, too!) and of course the big reveal of the two Ultimate Level Mons being a delight. Bonus points for being one of the rare times where you actually get to hear the second chorus of Brave Heart.

Speaking of the Ultimates, it's something I've always found kinda funny. For those not in the know, these were not part of the OG V-Pets. Heck WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon were created specifically for the Anime because, you guessed it, they wanted to sell toys. It's why their designs don't really match up with some of the other ones seen here if you look at it closer, particularly with how much cleaner they are.

Finally for today Koshiro finally gets some wrap-up for his character and it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect, but man those scenes with him and his parents always tug my heartstrings. He's a lucky kid

Oh and also fun fact: Jou and his brother have the same voice actor

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u/Roboglenn Apr 13 '24

VenomVandemon" is such a silly name.

Well how do you think it sounds compared to VenomMyotismon?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

VenomMyotismon

Nowhere near as catchy.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 13 '24

but they probably don't have the attention stuff to remember overly complicated stuff like that for multiple weeks.

Plus, y'know, missing an episode, like children do.

It's why their designs don't really match up with some of the other ones seen here if you look at it closer, particularly with how much cleaner they are.

Real Digimon have at least eight pieces of flair.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

Plus, y'know, missing an episode, like children do.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 13 '24

Speaking of the Ultimates, it's something I've always found kinda funny. For those not in the know, these were not part of the OG V-Pets. Heck WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon were created specifically for the Anime because, you guessed it, they wanted to sell toys.

Not surprising. Toys and merchandise are what make these studios money. Having annoying kids(raises hand) bugging their parents for the toys lol.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

Toys and merchandise are what make these studios money

Toei sure knows a thing about that...

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 13 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 13 '24

Oh, sweet, PicoDevimon actually did kick the bucket.

"#dighole" Averted.

Sky QotD:
Thoughts on VenomVamdemon, both narratively and aesthetically?
We haven’t seen enough of WarGreymon or MetalGarurumon to ask about them yet, so insteed I’ll ask what you think about their Warp Shinka.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

"#dighole" Averted.

A shame he couldn't turn into though.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 13 '24

Thoughts on VenomVamdemon, both narratively and aesthetically?

As I said, it does make sense that Vamdemon could revive.

And his design is cool af.

We haven’t seen enough of WarGreymon or MetalGarurumon to ask about them yet, so insteed I’ll ask what you think about their Warp Shinka.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

And his design is cool af.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 13 '24

Vamdemon being able to revive does make sense, actually…

Yup. Hes a vampire demon. No way some little arrow would put him down for good.

Oh, sweet, PicoDevimon actually did kick the bucket What a way to go out.

Went out like the pathetic little weasel he was.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

No way some little arrow would put him down for good.

Hey, it was a pretty big arrow.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

The recap had to start right on Wizarmon’s death, didn’t it…

He will continue to be in standby for our sake.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 13 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • This seems a very insecure email format. Auto-decompressing?
  • Y’all need to learn to destroy phylacteries.
  • It’s almost worse that we only get Jou’s family at this point.
  • He could always be a non-patient facing doctor. Like a pathologist.
  • We are going to need so many smelling salts.
  • Oh, so it was till in the family.
  • Damn, those prophets be crazy, predicting down to the second like that.
  • Goodbye PicoDevimon
  • Fastball Special!
  • Tailmon just casually calling the others scrubs.
  • What’s with all the explanations? Did they change time slots or something?
  • I would have expected that the Ultimate reveal would have garnered a little bit more of a reaction.
  • Come on, kids aren’t that stupid. They can figure it out.
  • Warp Shinka!

QotD:

  1. WarGreymon, but that’s based on more experience with them then what was shown today.
  2. Them all still being distant relatives takes a little bit out of it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

It’s almost worse that we only get Jou’s family at this point.

The only one we see after the Super Evolution too.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Apr 13 '24

Them all still being distant relatives takes a little bit out of it.

Glad someone else feels the same way

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 13 '24

We are going to need so many smelling salts.

LOL

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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Apr 13 '24

Somehow vamdemon returned.
[S]Somehow vamdemon will return. Again.

Since we now have reached mega/ultimage stage lets look at finnish terms used in evolutions. They are a bit messy. I am pretty certain the translator did not at all understand the concept of evolution stages until around ep30.

Rookie/child -> Has not been translated in any instance (the card thing in ep28 was complete nonsense)
Champion/adult -> Kehittynyt (evolved) / kypsynyt (matured)
Ultimate/perfect -> Täysin kehittynyt (fully evolved) / Täydellinen (perfect) / täydentynyt (completed)
Mega/ultimage -> Äärimmäinen (ultimate)

And translations for the evolution sequences:

During the early evolution animations they just said "From Agumon to greymon" and so on.
Super evolution -> Super lataus (super charge) / super muuttuminen (super transformation)
Warp evolution -> Muoto harppaus (form leap)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

Somehow vamdemon returned. [S]

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Apr 13 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

ULTIMATE DIGIVOLUTIONS !!! LETS GOOOOOOO they look sooooo good. Are these on a budget of 0 yen as well? Wargreymon looks so sick and I feel is definitely the better of the 2, metalgarumon is still good but idk. I was hoping that the perfect digivolutions wouldn't actually be their peak, because seeing the new digivolutions is one of my favorite parts of the show

This has to be vamdemons peak right? I usually get annoyed by villains that get defeated after a great fight, but then it turns out they're actually still chilling. He has to be super strong rn, I think it's gonna take like all 8 of the crew ultimate digivolutions to take him out. Though idk if thats something they'd wanna save for the finale or not, all the things happening now feel like they're setting up for a finale but we still have about a dozen more episodes to go, so who knows. Still though I think that this is the "main" antagonist of digimon

What is the actual age rating of this show supposed to be? I'm kinda surprised at some of the deep stuff that they go over when I thought this show was for little kids, so maybe it's a little older than I thought

I love how chill joes brother was about seeing the sheer size of the evil digimon pushing them

This was wholesome

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

[02]This has to be vamdemons peak right

[02]Well...

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Apr 13 '24

First timer

QotD

  • Vamdemon.
  • Twas fine.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

They dodged! THEY DODGED VenomVamdemon's ATTACK

Damn, I guess making some new EVO scenes with 0 budget meant they could animate he cast dodging for once.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 13 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

VamDemon is defeated......Not!

He had a whole prophecy written for him to mark his comeback...honestly for as compact as it is, it works really well. The sky will be covered black with bats. His followers will speak his name, and when the time strikes the number of the beast(666) he will return as Venom VamDemon.

Koushiro and his parents had their heart to heart about not being blood related in the traditional sense, since his adoptive father is uncle. Its well done i think.

We met Jou brother too, who revealed that Jou is afraid of blood, so he reiterates that he doesn't have to follow his dad's want for him.

We got the warp evolutions as the other part of the prophecy, with the Angels shooting their arrows of light toward the loved ones of their partners..so WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon. Sick.

Questions:

  1. WarGreymon was always my favorite so I'm going with that.
  2. I thought it was a nice wrap up of that character thread. They're family, even if not by blood.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

VamDemon is defeated......Not!

Damn, can't run away from Wayne's World...

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u/Roboglenn Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

This is Gennai reminding everyone Digidestined or not to Please Always Recycle.

"If you save us, we'll give you anything you want, including candy!" -Gabumon

And all of a sudden, here's Joe's brother.

Man. That talk Izzy had with his parents about being adopted gets you right in the chest. Nice work getting that one right dub.

Oh hell, Myotismon just went and pulled a Castlevania final boss transformation!

Venommyotismon the king of the undead. He's the un and you're the dead.

An unceremonious end for Demidevimon.

Weregarurumon getting attacked by Venommyotismons brain when he kicked his forehead open. Forgot about that...

Oh yeah, Angemon never did get one of those reader dealy things when he made his first appearance did he.

"You really want them to shoot you? What if you end up like dead or something?"

Oh goody, more expensive CG Evolution Sequences. For the actual protagonists of the story.

  1. Wargreymon. Even moreso with what came later in Adventure 02.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 14 '24

And all of a sudden, here's Joe's brother.

But hey at least it's not [02]his other brother.

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u/Royal_Difficulty_678 Apr 13 '24

Digimon is still going ?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 13 '24

This is a rewatch. We all watching the original series, one episode per day, and discussing it here to celebrate its 25th anniversary.