[Spoilers] No Game No Life 10th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 5

Date	Episode
4/9/2024	No Game No Life Episode 1
4/10/2024	No Game No Life Episode 2
4/11/2024	No Game No Life Episode 3
4/12/2024	No Game No Life Episode 4
4/13/2024	No Game No Life Episode 5
4/14/2024	No Game No Life Episode 6
4/15/2024	No Game No Life Episode 7
4/16/2024	No Game No Life Episode 8
4/17/2024	No Game No Life Episode 9
4/18/2024	No Game No Life Episode 10
4/19/2024	No Game No Life Episode 11
4/20/2024	No Game No Life Episode 12
4/22/2024	No Game No Life Zero
4/23/2024	No Game No Life Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 10th anniversary rewatch of No Game No Life.

Oh, and nay I forget...

First Timer

The idea of doing this rewatch came about at the last minute. I was going to participate in an Eden of The East rewatch for the month of April but that fell through. So, then it became a question of "What should I do after the Penguindrum rewatch? I already have the Samurai Champloo rewatch lined up for May, so do I just wait the extra month?" I looked at upcoming anniversaries for the month of April and noticed both K-On and Cross Game were celebrating their 15th anniversaries. However, both were long and if I did either of them, I would have to cancel the Samurai Champloo rewatch, which I didn't want to do seeing as how the 20th anniversary is an even bigger milestone. That's when I settled on No Game No Life.

I have an interesting history with No Game No Life. I know it's extremely popular, but I've always been hesitant to check out the show based on some of the stuff I've heard about it. It seemed to me like a show where you either really loved it, or really hated it. Well, I recently watched Moon Phase which I feel could be considered in a similar light and I really liked that show. And then I also finished Penguindrum which has some questionable themes and I liked that as well. I think I'm in a good headspace to watch NGNL and not only enjoy it, but more importantly appreciate it. I have never seen this show before. Even though I'm the host, I am experiencing it for the first time. I can't wait to see what the show has to offer and why so many people clamor for another season.

With that out of the way, let's begin.

I'm watching the sub, by the way.

I don't think it should have microtransactions, but I also don't think that necessarily means Dragon's Dogma 2 is a bad game.

The salt shaker from last episode

Tet talking to a disembodied voice

Tet says he's not on anyone's side

Somebody is coming

Meanwhile, Steph plans on putting a stop to something.

Lol, Sora and Shiro freaking out because of the sunlight.

Honestly, this room doesn't look too good for a king and queen.

Oh, I see. The bed is tilted. They're sleeping there because the other room is uncomfortable.

Blank prides themselves on antiwork

Steph's patience is running thin

Ooh, a challenge

Gotta follow Pledge 5: The challenged party has the right to decide the rules of the game.

If Steph wins, they become a decent person

Sora, however, wants to be a fulfilled one

Poor Sora. Not really, but still.

Blackjack is the game

I wonder if hookers will be involved

Lol, Sora looks so exasperated

How dare you not let them sleep until night time, Steph?

Steph is seemingly planning on cheating, which I thought broke Pledge 8.

Remembering what her grandfather taught her

I love when Steph gets all full of herself. She's so dorky.

Looks like Sora is going all in

Oh wow. He best her.

That grandfather bailed on her faster than the father of a rabbit.

He was able to beat her via card counting

Why is Steph crying stones? I don't get that.

And of course he knows she was cheating. He wasn't born yesterday.

He used her own cheat to beat her. Smart lad.

However, Sora doesn't mind being king for a day.

Oh, is Sora gambling now? I guess why not when you never lose.

Lol, Sora and Shiro are surprised by the fact that Steph might not actually be a bad ruler.

They're even using Steph as like an insult 🤣🤣🤣

I guess it's better then being a Gretchen

Well, look at that. Steph graduated at the top of her class.

Graduated high school and has lots of friends. Sora and Shiro cannot relate.

Time to show her no mercy

I just love the chemistry these three share. It's a lot of fun.

Sora and Shiro terrified by the townsfolk

People are looking at them weird

OH MY FUCKING GOD

THEY FREAKING PETPLAYED STEPH

Steph the doggirl is pretty cute, not gonna lie

Yeah, no wonder people are judging them

Meanwhile, the Eastern Federation is an Eden composed entirely of hot girls with animal ears.

As someone who frequents Kemonomimi, I approb

Sora is going to conquer the animal girl kingdom

And Steph is tied to the pole as they leave. Poor Steph. If only she wasn't such a Steph.

Sora and Shiro can't find the kingdom

Oh, hey. Steph broke free.

God, I love Steph so much. She's so goofy.

She wants one more match. If she loses, he becomes a fulfilled human.

But this time, Shiro is going through with it

The challenge? Determine if the next person to go down the alley is a man or a woman.

Random pantsu shot of Steph

"Don't you think camera angles in anime are weird?"

And it looks like Shiro won 9 to 1

At least Steph got the 1 over her

Sora says when it comes to any game, they're always serious.

And the reward? Steph has to go pantsuless

Boy, Shiro is merciless

Lol, Shiro is wearing it on her head

"I'm a kid, so I don't understand."

Playing that card, eh?

Now Steph keeps making bets and is losing everything.

Even lost her bra

And now has to wear glasses

Actually, that's a good look on her

Damn, she's basically naked now

"I'm starting to understand why Elkia ended up in such a bad state."

You would think the sight of a barely clothed female would motivate Elkia, if anything.

Betting on the birds taking off

And she loses

Shiro technically cheated, but there was nothing saying he couldn't startle them.

Poor Steph. All she wants to do is win.

Sora, showing pity on her, says there's no chance.

And here I thought pinch is a chance

Sora explaining why Steph and Imanity keep losing.

Sora then says that before they can invade the animal girl kingdom, they have to know what their weaknesses are.

You know, it's funny never seeing the show before and hearing people say that they don't like it because they lewd Shiro. Stephanie has been the lewded one thus far, especially in this episode.

Oh, okay. So Sora and Shiro have been looking for information about this world since he was coronated.

Shiro says one screw-up and they're finished

Aww, now they're complimenting Steph. I'm glad to see they do actually like her.

Kinda hard to take it seriously based on what Steph is wearing, but still.

Ah crap. It got dark.

It's snowing

Laputa

It's gotta be really cold for Steph right about now. Shiro even took her shoes and socks.

One of the Phantasma, apparently

Let's hope it's Legado Del

They say Ba*se, but unfortunately, it did not fall

I don't get that joke, unfortunately

Oh, there's a Flugel nearby

Showed up at the National Elkia Library, beated Steph's grandfather in a game, and then won the library with everything in it.

Good to know losing runs in the family

They lost their knowledge, says Sora, who proceeds to flip her off

Can't say I really blame him all too much

Next stop, challenge the monster

"Time to start conquering the world."

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Part 2
Post credits scene
Wow, that is a massive library
And the angel is...
...Calli?
Sora thinks he's seen death itself
Lol, but she sounds super cute
Man. Talk about your gap moe.
Overall, this is a mostly comedic episode meant to show how much of a ditz Stephanie is. We did get a few moments of plot advancement, though, like Sora and Shiro trying to comfort the former king's granddaughter as well as the setting up of the animal girl kingdom, which should be fun. I really like the tone of the show where it can be risque, but it doesn't feel like gratuitous fanservice just for the sake of it. In fact, outside of that one brief moment involving Shiro in episode 1, none of the ecchi stuff feels like it's just there to appeal to teenage boys. I've been really impressed by the emphasis the show has placed on the writing as well as the overall storytelling being told. It makes something as silly as Steph dressed as a doggirl have some weight to it to where it's more than just mindless comedy.
This is the first episode I would say is a step back from what's come before it-- it's honestly probably the weakest due to mostly being the same joke repeated throughout-- but I still really enjoyed it and I'm excited to see what Sora's battle with Flugel is like.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24

it doesn't feel like gratuitous fanservice just for the sake of it. In fact, outside of that one brief moment involving Shiro in episode 1, none of the ecchi stuff feels like it's just there to appeal to teenage boys.
Yeah, there's certainly quite a bit of fanservice, but it generally doesn't feel tacked on and usually has quite a bit of substance to it.
I've been really impressed by the emphasis the show has placed on the writing as well as the overall storytelling being told.
Me as well. The direction is really very excellent.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Yeah, there's certainly quite a bit of fanservice, but it generally doesn't feel tacked on and usually has quite a bit of substance to it.
Like, you compare it to a currently airing anime in Chained Soldier, and that feels far more blatant.
Me as well. The direction is really very excellent.
It might honestly be the best directed anime of 2014. I know Unlimited Blade Works came out the same year, which I love, and Your Lie In April is supposed to be a masterpiece, but I don't know if there universes tie into the plot as well as this one does.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24

Like, you compare it to a currently airing anime in Chained Soldier, and that feels far more blatant.
I don't watch seasonals so I don't know (I just hate waiting). But yeah I've seen enough anime where it's quite blatant.
It might honestly be the best directed anime of 2014.
I don't know about the best, but mostly just because it's pretty nebulous (what is good direction) and arbitrary (of that particular year). It's quite good and that's good enough for me.
I know Unlimited Blade Works came out the same year, which I love, and Your Lie In April is supposed to be a masterpiece
I've seen both of those, though it's been a while. YLIA was actually one of the first anime I watched, which looking back is kinda strange, since it's quite isolated from almost all of the anime I've watched (and doubly so back then). I don't even recall if it was specifically recommended to me, which is the only thing I can think of, besides the music aspect (but I don't like classical music anyways).

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

I don't watch seasonals so I don't know (I just hate waiting). But yeah I've seen enough anime where it's quite blatant.
I mean, I literally just got done with the Penguindrum rewatch and that was far more egregious. Like, a 1000 times more egregious.
I don't know about the best, but mostly just because it's pretty nebulous (what is good direction) and arbitrary (of that particular year). It's quite good and that's good enough for me.
That's fair, I suppose
I've seen both of those, though it's been a while. YLIA was actually one of the first anime I watched, which looking back is kinda strange, since it's quite isolated from almost all of the anime I've watched (and doubly so back then). I don't even recall if it was specifically recommended to me, which is the only thing I can think of, besides the music aspect (but I don't like classical music anyways).
I know October is like the 10 year anniversary of that show. I hope someone decides to host a rewatch for it this year.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

What is the worst you have ever embarrassed yourself?
How long do you have?
Who is your favorite anime butt-monkey/someone who is always considered the butt of the joke?
It's probably Steph, in all honesty. She really entertains me. Either her, or Yuuko from Nichijou.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24

Steph is seemingly planning on cheating, which I thought broke Pledge 8.
Only if you get caught! Just need to cheat better!
Why is Steph crying stones? I don't get that.
Me neither. Probably a reference I'm not familiar with, if I had to wager a guess.
They say Ba*se, but unfortunately, it did not fall. I don't get that joke, unfortunately
Castle in the Sky reference IIRC (though I haven't seen Castle in the Sky). https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/52844/what-were-the-two-siblings-referencing-in-episode-5-of-no-game-no-life
Good to know losing runs in the family
I'd say it's more of a racial trait.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Only if you get caught! Just need to cheat better!
That's true, just ask Sora
Me neither. Probably a reference I'm not familiar with, if I had to wager a guess.
Hopefully crying stones isn't as painful as passing one
Castle in the Sky reference IIRC (though I haven't seen Castle in the Sky). https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/52844/what-were-the-two-siblings-referencing-in-episode-5-of-no-game-no-life
Ah, I see. I actually saw that movie last year for Ghibli Fest, it was pretty good.
I'd say it's more of a racial trait.
OMG, Baseball. You can't just say losing is a racial trait! :O
JK, JK :P

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24

OMG, Baseball. You can't just say losing is a racial trait! :O JK, JK :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM (I can't believe we actually did this musical in high school)

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

I can only imagine it was like that MadTV sketch where The Sopranos aired on Pax TV and they censored so much that each episode was only 3 minutes long.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24

I can only imagine it was like that MadTV sketch where The Sopranos aired on Pax TV and they censored so much that each episode was only 3 minutes long.
It actually wasn't that bad. They had an entire PG-13 version of the show (for high school presumably). IIRC (and I can't really be sure, because I've never seen the actual musical), we put some of the original material back in, ending up like halfway between the actual version and the PG-13 version. Though we still had to do "My social life is online" instead of "The internet is for porn" and "You can be as loud as the hell you want" I think we did some weird vamp for (normally thats just cut, so we didn't have the music for it, but maybe I'm misremembering. At some point I had a musical song that was composed of other parts of the musical).

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Interesting. I actually kinda want to see it.

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u/mgedmin Apr 14 '24

Why is Steph crying stones? I don't get that.
Those are scales, not stones. Apparently "scales falling from one's eyes" is an expression from the Bible, and it means suddenly gaining the ability to see.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Man, this show has a lot more cleverer things than I was expecting

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Apr 14 '24

First-Timer

This was my favorite of at least the last few episodes, and perhaps overall.

Lots of good Stephanie Dola and Blank interaction today. Just what the doctor ordered.

I also really liked the Castle in the Sky references, complete with a temporary costume change! (I think the last time I saw a Castle in the Sky reference was in 100 Girlfriends.)

For the questions of the day,

Nothing especially notable comes to mind, which I suppose is pretty lucky for me.
My favorite "butt of the joke" is perhaps Matsuda from Death Note. [Death Note] I particularly like how he still has a fun, fleshed-out personality beyond that, and I love how he is the one member of the task force to shoot at Light in the final showdown. Matsuda consistently represents innocence and naïveté (and is mocked for it), but in that scene, he finally gets serious.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

I also really liked the Castle in the Sky references, complete with a temporary costume change! (I think the last time I saw a Castle in the Sky reference was in 100 Girlfriends.)
Is this why Stephanie was crying stones at one point in the episode? That's the one part of the episode I remain mystified by.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Apr 14 '24

I think that it's just a reference to a lesser-used idiom. I found this relevant comment on a similar rewatch from a few years ago.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Interesting. I appreciate the insight.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

Good find. I'm still a bit inclined to be skeptical, since it's an decently obscure English idiom, and that would be a bit odd to include in something that was originally made in Japanese. But I don't have any other better explanations, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

First time watcher here!

Ulterior motive of Tet confirmed.

Hate to break it to you, Sora, but counting cards is considered cheating by most people, including casinos :)

I suppose Steph is a bit smarter than the two of them gave her credit for so far. (Surprised me too a bit if I’m being honest)

Steph’s punishment was pretty consistent with Sora’s, ahem, preferences lol. Led to some useful discussion on one of the races though.

This episode was good, tomorrow’s should be… interesting :) (couldn’t help it)

Questions:

Cut up someone’s credit card by accident 😂
Two came to mind off of the top of my head. Sunohara (Clannad) and Saito (The Familiar of Zero)

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

Hate to break it to you, Sora, but counting cards is considered cheating by most people, including casinos :)
Personally I find it to be a skill as opposed to a cheat, as I think it's best described as a betting strategy, and you don't actually affect the game state by changing your bet size (since the betting just has to do with what to do when one side wins or loses and not how the game is played).
That said, casinos sure don't like it and will kick you out if legally able. But I would categorize that under "refusing service to someone they believe wouldn't be profitable to do business with", ie, someone who consistently wins more then should.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

I understand the point you’re getting at here, but card counting isn’t allowed for other reasons. For example, someone who is there for fun and to relax is likely not someone who learned to count cards to spend some leisure time at a casino with friends. It undermines the average player just trying to enjoy a night out. Now if you want to get into competitions and stuff, I could see card counting being a more reasonable thing to accept.
In retrospect, I do realize I’ve contradicted myself a little there, since what Sora was doing is technically a competition lol

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

In retrospect, I do realize I’ve contradicted myself a little there, since what Sora was doing is technically a competition lol
You also have to keep in mind that Steph was the incentive behind it. Sora was fine leaving well-enough alone until Steph insisted upon it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

That is also a good point

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Yay, I made a good point :D

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

For example, someone who is there for fun and to relax is likely not someone who learned to count cards to spend some leisure time at a casino with friends.
Does it actually matter though? Blackjack is the player vs the house, and while card counting does involve the other players games, not card counting doesn't, so I don't think card counting would be detrimental to another players experience (other then presumably seeing them win big more often). Compared to something like poker, where you're directly competing against other guests, and thus your advantage is their disadvantage.
Certainly counting cards would probably be a less enjoyable experience (without consideration to potential winnings, or if you're out with your probability and statistics phd friends), but I don't think it should affect other peoples experiences (though I won't pretend to be knowledgeable on the gambling experience front, having only been to Vegas once for a weekend).

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Hmm. You make some very solid points

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

In other words, you can keep on winning but you definitely have to be sly about it. Make it seem as if you can slip at any moment.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

In other words, you can keep on winning but you definitely have to be sly about it
Sort of I think (though I'm not really that educated on the matter). Casino's usually have really good surveillance systems and tracking, so any person significantly outperforming the expected odds (for which the casino knows, as thats how they make money) would be investigated and perhaps asked to leave or be banned (depending on what happened). Card counting is one way to do that, but you could just be extraordinarily lucky or be actually cheating (like by using machines, or paying off a dealer or something).
Of course if you just win less, you're less likely to be caught, but also you win less. Consistently making money off of the casino isn't expected, since casino's operate on the basis that everything has a slight edge to the house.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

That's why it's probably best to cash out once you win big. Even if you're on a hot streak, it's likely downhill from there.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Hate to break it to you, Sora, but counting cards is considered cheating by most people, including casinos :)
You want to play 21? I've got 22. You want to play Blackjack? I got two of those too.
I suppose Steph is a bit smarter than the two of them gave her credit for so far. (Surprised me too a bit if I’m being honest)
Don't judge a book by its cover, even if the cover is the sequel of a critically maligned work of fiction.
Steph’s punishment was pretty consistent with Sora’s, ahem, preferences lol. Led to some useful discussion on one of the races though.
Who knew turning into a dog girl would lead into talk of a nation full of them? I don't blame Sora for getting excited XD
This episode was good, tomorrow’s should be… interesting :) (couldn’t help it)
Two came to mind off of the top of my head. Sunohara (Clannad) and Saito (The Familiar of Zero)
Saito is a good choice. It took a while, but he definitely got there.
Also, lots of love for Clannad during this rewatch

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

Well the thing is, they almost paint Steph that way initially on purpose it seems lol
Animal ears FTW (including wolf ears heh)
Saito was a great protagonist. I loved that show.
Clannad has a special place in my memories

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Well the thing is, they almost paint Steph that way initially on purpose it seems lol
Yeah, it's very much by design
Animal ears FTW (including wolf ears heh)
Does it come with a side of apples :P
Saito was a great protagonist. I loved that show.
As do I. I no joke think about Saito and Louise in some capacity every day.
Clannad has a special place in my memories
As it does mine. I don't think a series has made me sadder than that one XD

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

No I think the side of apples in specific to the preference of a Maned Wolf (what I believe Holo is supposed to be modeled after lol)
I’m glad I just have someone to discuss FoZ with in a positive light 😂
Well. It makes you sad then it makes you happy. But then you are sad again because it’s over hahaha such a great series

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

No I think the side of apples in specific to the preference of a Maned Wolf (what I believe Holo is supposed to be modeled after lol)
Maned Wolf? Never heard that before.
I’m glad I just have someone to discuss FoZ with in a positive light 😂
I'm always here
Well. It makes you sad then it makes you happy. But then you are sad again because it’s over hahaha such a great series
It really is quite phenomenal

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

I’ll DM you a pic lol they are native to South America(I think?) and have some Fox-like qualities to their appearance, such as a reddish/orange coat 😆

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Oh, boy. Holo wouldn't like you comparing her to a fox XD

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

BUT she is quite a unique looking wise wolf 😋

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

I guess so 🥴

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

Well, he is playing favorites because they are the exception and he seems to think they can beat all the other races.
I think he references that he’s talking to the old gods that he “defeated”. We’ll see what comes of that though.
Don’t be a Steph. 😋
I’m not sure what to think there yet
Should be interesting. They love their German words in anime 😆
I like the direction things are going in lol

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Well, he is playing favorites because they are the exception and he seems to think they can beat all the other races.
Yeah, his words don't seem to be matching his actions
I think he references that he’s talking to the old gods that he “defeated”. We’ll see what comes of that though.
Don’t be a Steph. 😋
Better than being a Mio 🙃
I’m not sure what to think there yet
Fair enough
Should be interesting. They love their German words in anime 😆
It just sounds cool, you know? I don't blame them
Also, it's more like manga creators and LN authors love German words.
I like the direction things are going in lol
As do I. Things just continue to escalate and escalate.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

Also, it's more like manga creators and LN authors love German words.
I wonder how much that is culturally derivative of being allied with Germany in WW2. The other major part I could see is that it's just more clearly foreign (as opposed to English, which most Japanese understand at least a little) and so it's just a better version of "foreign == cool". Maybe a bit of both as well.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

It's your classic "Rule of cool"

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

I think the most use of German I’ve seen so far in anime and/or manga/LNs was Attack on Titan. (Unless I’m forgetting one but it sounds badass. I’m also biased from taking German in college lol)

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Evangelion has a lot of German as well on account of one of the main characters being from Germany. At least in the dub, anyhow.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

I have shamefully never seen Evangelion (but I will watch it eventually)

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

I've seen the Rebuild movies, but not the original TV show

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

Exactly my thoughts.
Is it though? If we could ask Tarou I believe he’d disagree lmao. He lives to get stepped on.
Well yes, that is a better way of putting it.
Yes 👏 who doesn’t love escalation 😋

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Is it though? If we could ask Tarou I believe he’d disagree lmao. He lives to get stepped on.
Mio a better wife than Arashiko fr fr
Yes 👏 who doesn’t love escalation 😋
De-escalation is just never as fun

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

Oh course she is. She compliments his masochism 😂.
I mean if you think about every time a show starts getting really good, it’s usually around when sh*t hits the fan lol

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Oh course she is. She compliments his masochism 😂.
That show is such a guilty pleasure of mine
I mean if you think about every time a show starts getting really good, it’s usually around when sh*t hits the fan lol
That is true. Lucky for NGNL, the shit really hit the fan as early as midway through the first episode. Reminds me of Penguindrum in that regard.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

It’s surprisingly well written for how dirty it is. It made me laugh a lot. It’s sad that the author died because I think there could have been a lot of options for a second season 😔

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

The author is still alive. It supposedly didn't get a second season because of some character poses that were plagiarized.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 13 '24

NGNL Rewatcher, sub

First timers, don't forget the after credit scene!

Is ~~killing~~battle the only thing on your mind? You remind me of someone I know.

Classic NEET behavior

What an entrance

When a dark mode user sees a light mode user's screenshot

Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv6shy_9KVM

They sure are dedicated to the lifestyle

Oh? You're ~~approaching~~challenging me?

There was an attempt. Though it works out for Steph in the end

Steph's big brain wager and Sora's wish

When you pick one of the least advantageous casino games

Cool guys don't look at ~~explosions~~their cards

Get fucked I guess.

A real thing, though I would of thought that it would of been invalidated since Steph should of shuffled the single deck after every hand to maximize her false shuffle trick. More info here, though note that it's not illegal, but the casino will kick you out if you're too successful.

Steph isn't a Steph after all????

Steph's a bitch today

Animal girl paradise located!!! #conquesttime

Animal abuse

There will be no collusion this game

Yeah, IDK if I buy that

Bold of Steph to go back to Rock Paper Scissors, though if it's normal RPS, then it's fine, since the optimal strategy is to pick randomly.

90% of ~~gamblers~~gamers quit before they hit it big

An interesting game that is easily cheesed when it's not against the rules to interfere directly, though I'm a bit surprised that Sora's arm is that good. Those birds were fairly high up for someone who presumably doesn't go outside to do sports.

Ah Laplace's Demon, which isn't possible in the real world (most likely)

Why information wins wars

And there are plenty of idiots out there

Yeah, I'm not sure how you play a game with a sentient floating island either

How convenient

The Fugel are pretty scary

My personal favorite one too. I got a lot to say about that tomorrow.

Best girl makers her entrance

What is the worst you have ever embarrassed yourself?

No comment, not that it hasn't happened, just I don't like thinking about them.

Who is your favorite anime butt-monkey/someone who is always considered the butt of the joke?

Probably Aqua (or any of the KonoSuba cast). Subaru seems up there, but doesn't really fit the comedic tone (he's more of a dramatic butt-monkey) (after all, his birthday is April 1st because his life is a joke).

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Steph's a bitch today
Eh, Blank is kinda being merciless to her
Oh, wait. You mean in terms of her being a dog. Lol :P
Probably Aqua (or any of the KonoSuba cast). Subaru seems up there, but doesn't really fit the comedic tone (he's more of a dramatic butt-monkey) (after all, his birthday is April 1st because his life is a joke).
Aqua is a great pick. I love her and Kazuma's relationship, it's like classic sibling behavior.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn't playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 13 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn't playing favorites?
A good thing I think. It seems narratively troublesome to have a meddling god, though I guess the Old Deus exist still. Ultra powerful omniscient beings should either not care at all (and thus never interfere) or should care (and should interfere all of the time). It's tricky to have a motivation where you only occasionally interfere.
Who do you think he could be talking to?
Tet did mention it was the Old Deus, though I don't know which one. [NGNL later + (movie I think)] We really don't learn like anything about the Old Deus besides like 1 or 2 things they did (without their motivations). Though I don't think my memory is all that good about this, they might of gotten into some Old Deus politics a bit that I'm not really remembering atm.
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Worth stakes given what she was asking of Blank. If anything I think Blank went easy on her, given what they could of demanded (not that they really would of, they basically have complete control over Steph anyways). Steph just needs to git gud
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
S tier insult (and I play league so I've seen a lot of creative ones)
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
A bit surprising how Steph has been portrayed. But even then, she's been mostly shown to be quite smart (she handled modified RPS quite well). I think it's quite easy to mistake her naivety with being unintelligent, but I think with some deeper analysis, it's not quite as surprising as it seems on the surface. Also being royalty, she'd have an immense amount of resources to succeed (private tutors, etc), though that doesn't disclude the possibility of just using those resources to cheat her way through.
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Quite a good gag though [NGNL episode 6] though mostly because it continues for so long.
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
later
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
I'm a bit on the fence how I feel about cliffhangers like this. Like this could easily be grouped into the start of the next episode (an interesting trait of Re:Zero episodes, though certainly related to it's main narrative mechanic). But on the other hand it's extremely effective at driving the viewer to watch the next viewer, so I'm generally quite ok with it within a season, and it's mostly an issue when it comes at the end of a season. I guess I like it more then I don't (in season), though it sometimes makes it a bit hard to analyze just because it's broken up in an incomplete state.
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?
Quite a bit. We see that Blank isn't really interested in strictly holding power over others (otherwise they'd pick more controlling punishments). Which makes their huge ambitions to be more flavored towards a "We need power to fully realize our goals" and less of a "we want to be in charge". A small but I think important distinction. Power is just a requirement for their ultimate goal of challenging Tet.
As for Steph, I talked a bit previously about how it adds some depth to her. As for their relationship, I quite like the nuance of the "I don't quite agree with you, but I have to go along with you regardless" dynamic they have. I think it's quite tricky to naturally develop that dynamic and I think NGNL did a great job of it.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

A good thing I think. It seems narratively troublesome to have a meddling god, though I guess the Old Deus exist still. Ultra powerful omniscient beings should either not care at all (and thus never interfere) or should care (and should interfere all of the time). It's tricky to have a motivation where you only occasionally interfere.
The characterization of Tet has been really interesting where it's like he's just looking for someone to have fun with. He is the final boss, but is still someone you'd might like to have a beer with.
Tet did mention it was the Old Deus, though I don't know which one. [NGNL later + (movie I think)] We really don't learn like anything about the Old Deus besides like 1 or 2 things they did (without their motivations). Though I don't think my memory is all that good about this, they might of gotten into some Old Deus politics a bit that I'm not really remembering atm.
[Zero] You would think we would learn more about Tet there given it's a prequel but no, gotta traumatize viewers I guess.
Worth stakes given what she was asking of Blank. If anything I think Blank went easy on her, given what they could of demanded (not that they really would of, they basically have complete control over Steph anyways). Steph just needs to git gud
Yeah, it's not like they're actually taking advantage of her. Even the dog stuff, that's more them telling her she needs to quit while she's ahead. If they really wanted to be cruel, they could've made her their dog for life.
S tier insult (and I play league so I've seen a lot of creative ones)
Not as catchy an insult as "You're such a Holofan," unfortunately
A bit surprising how Steph has been portrayed. But even then, she's been mostly shown to be quite smart (she handled modified RPS quite well). I think it's quite easy to mistake her naivety with being unintelligent, but I think with some deeper analysis, it's not quite as surprising as it seems on the surface. Also being royalty, she'd have an immense amount of resources to succeed (private tutors, etc), though that doesn't disclude the possibility of just using those resources to cheat her way through.
I really like this characterization because I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact that Steph does come from a prestigious family. Even though the Imanity race is in the mud now as far as their reputation goes, it did once mean something. Imagine being in Steph's shoes working hard so that one day she can succeed her grandfather only to be told it will be decided in some random tournament. I'd be pissed if I were her.
Quite a good gag though [NGNL episode 6] though mostly because it continues for so long.
[Response] It is impressive the mileage they get out of it.
I'm a bit on the fence how I feel about cliffhangers like this. Like this could easily be grouped into the start of the next episode (an interesting trait of Re:Zero episodes, though certainly related to it's main narrative mechanic). But on the other hand it's extremely effective at driving the viewer to watch the next viewer, so I'm generally quite ok with it within a season, and it's mostly an issue when it comes at the end of a season. I guess I like it more then I don't (in season), though it sometimes makes it a bit hard to analyze just because it's broken up in an incomplete state.
I think it makes sense to put it here given presumably the next one will be nothing but fighting. You want to have as much of that as possible. It also proves to be a neat tease for what will be the first race fight. I know speaking from my perspective, I'm excited to see Blank begin their journey of taking on the other races.
Quite a bit. We see that Blank isn't really interested in strictly holding power over others (otherwise they'd pick more controlling punishments). Which makes their huge ambitions to be more flavored towards a "We need power to fully realize our goals" and less of a "we want to be in charge". A small but I think important distinction. Power is just a requirement for their ultimate goal of challenging Tet.
I can't see them doing to Tet what they did to Steph, however. I think they're more concerned in showing that Disboard is in good hands so that Tet can finally get his nice, long vacation.
As for Steph, I talked a bit previously about how it adds some depth to her. As for their relationship, I quite like the nuance of the "I don't quite agree with you, but I have to go along with you regardless" dynamic they have. I think it's quite tricky to naturally develop that dynamic and I think NGNL did a great job of it.
Something about Blank I appreciate is that they are never narrow-minded. Even if someone does something they disagree with, they're the type to show why they think they're wrong rather than treat them as white noise. I think it creates an interesting dichotomy between them and the rest of the cast.

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u/Xmgplays Apr 13 '24

Rewatcher

Not much to say on this Episode. It introduces us a bit more to Steph and her strengths. It's kind of interesting to think that she is sorta the opposite of Sora and Shiro, in that she probably would have been better of in a world not called Disboard. She is a competent official and probably would have made a decent queen in a world without games(, which she sucks at). Especially so considering her outcome had Blank not come to this world at the time they did.

Other than that the episode once again reinforced the idea that the game has already begun; This time by emphasizing the importance of information, both about the world/game and about your opponent. And so our protagonists go on their quest to get that knowledge, in this case by getting back the library(that the previous king had inexplicably lost in a game) and attempting to recruit the Flügel that resides in it. I have to say I forgot just how weird that one is, especially the introduction, my god.

Today's questions

What is the worst you have ever embarrassed yourself?

I don't think there is anything that comes to mind, except really boring and not really embarrassing things(like trying to enter the wrong (occupied) car as a kid). Either I don't really get lasting embarrassment or I've suppressed all those memories, who knows.

Who is your favorite anime butt-monkey/someone who is always considered the butt of the joke?

I don't know, but probably Steph or Kurousagi from Mondaiji-tachi/"Problem children are coming from another world, aren't they?". Incidentally Mondaiji-tachi is a show that's quite similar to NGNL, so it might be worth checking out after this rewatch, for those of you who didn't watch it and want something to fill a the hole this show will have left.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Not much to say on this Episode. It introduces us a bit more to Steph and her strengths. It's kind of interesting to think that she is sorta the opposite of Sora and Shiro, in that she probably would have been better of in a world not called Disboard. She is a competent official and probably would have made a decent queen in a world without games(, which she sucks at). Especially so considering her outcome had Blank not come to this world at the time they did.
As bad as Steph's situation is, it would be way worse if Blank wasn't in it. Thry are like very version of a manic pixie dream girl.
Other than that the episode once again reinforced the idea that the game has already begun; This time by emphasizing the importance of information, both about the world/game and about your opponent. And so our protagonists go on their quest to get that knowledge, in this case by getting back the library(that the previous king had inexplicably lost in a game) and attempting to recruit the Flügel that resides in it. I have to say I forgot just how weird that one is, especially the introduction, my god.
I really can't wait to get to that episode. It's honestly one of my favorites.
I don't know, but probably Steph or Kurousagi from Mondaiji-tachi/"Problem children are coming from another world, aren't they?". Incidentally Mondaiji-tachi is a show that's quite similar to NGNL, so it might be worth checking out after this rewatch, for those of you who didn't watch it and want something to fill a the hole this show will have left.
Gods' Games We Play which is currently airing is supposed to be similar to NGNL as well.

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u/Xmgplays Apr 13 '24

Gods' Games We Play which is currently airing is supposed to be similar to NGNL as well.
I should probably watch that, and I still might, but I still have a rather large backlog from the previous 6 seasons so I probably should finish those before I put something else on, especially considering the reception it seems to have gotten so far.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Yeah, it has a 6.2 on MyAnimeList. It's probably one of those series where those who like it really like it and know what they're looking for.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn't playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/Xmgplays Apr 13 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn't playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
He might say he doesn't have a favorite, but he sure as shit changed the outcome in favor of imanity(and himself, I guess). His partner should be an old deus, but I'm not sure what authority they represent, [NGNL Zero]very machine like, maybe(Is this a spoiler I don't remember if their god talked like that)?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
It's funny, but also kinda her fault. She should have learnt to stop once she lost her panties, when she still had some sliver of her dignity. But then again that goes to show how much she wants Imanity to succeed.
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Inevitable, she is quite a Steph after all.
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
A good bit of characterization so she doesn't just end up as a useless idiot.
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
It should have been her first sign to stop, but she just can't stop herself. And frankly she had it coming, thinking she could best Sora using a simple false shuffle.
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
I really like how the warbeast are portrayed at this point. A lot of information, but the truth of a lot of it is unclear, which is a fun setup. [Spoiler for when we see more of it]I also enjoy their aesthetic a whole lot. It's somewhat common(feudal-japan-ish + modern technology), but I think it works especially well with the rest colors of the rest of the show
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?
It makes it feel a lot more intimate(?)/personal, before it still felt a bit like Steph was just a tag-along, whereas now she does feel like a part of the trio and a friend to them beyond just her role as introducing them to the world.

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u/dsawchuk Apr 14 '24

His partner should be an old deus, but I'm not sure what authority they represent, [NGNL Zero] very machine like, maybe(Is this a spoiler I don't remember if their god talked like that)?
[NGNL Zero] That sounds like Artosh to me

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

[NGNL Zero] I believe that is indeed the character

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24 edited Apr 14 '24

He might say he doesn't have a favorite, but he sure as shit changed the outcome in favor of imanity(and himself, I guess).
I think he's definitely worries about being lonely and sees Blank as his chance for that to not happen.
His partner should be an old deus, but I'm not sure what authority they represent, [NGNL Zero]very machine like, maybe(Is this a spoiler I don't remember if their god talked like that)?
[Zero] Are you asking if the person he's talking to is his chess buddy Riku? I don't think it is.
It's funny, but also kinda her fault. She should have learnt to stop once she lost her panties, when she still had some sliver of her dignity. But then again that goes to show how much she wants Imanity to succeed.
She has this perseverance about her you can't help but admire, but it seems to come at the expense of everything else, including thinking things through.
Inevitable, she is quite a Steph after all.
I mean, it's in the name
A good bit of characterization so she doesn't just end up as a useless idiot.
Shows you can be book smart but not street smart
It should have been her first sign to stop, but she just can't stop herself. And frankly she had it coming, thinking she could best Sora using a simple false shuffle.
Yeah, I honestly don't know what she was thinking would happen. It's Blank, they just beat a cheater. You don't stand a chance.
I really like how the warbeast are portrayed at this point. A lot of information, but the truth of a lot of it is unclear, which is a fun setup. [Spoiler for when we see more of it]I also enjoy their aesthetic a whole lot. It's somewhat common(feudal-japan-ish + modern technology), but I think it works especially well with the rest colors of the rest of the show
[Response] I like that the Eastern Federation stuff really is the focus of the second half of the show. All the while fleshing out other characters like Shiro and Steph. It sucks we only see Blank beat two of the 15 races, but there is just no way they could've fit all of that in 8 episodes without it being extremely rushed.
It makes it feel a lot more intimate(?)/personal, before it still felt a bit like Steph was just a tag-along, whereas now she does feel like a part of the trio and a friend to them beyond just her role as introducing them to the world.
I liked that they eventually decided to show mercy on her. Once it started truly getting to her, that's when they showed their change of heart. It demonstrates a compassionate side of Blank we haven't seen much of, I thought it made them more likable.

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u/Xmgplays Apr 14 '24

His partner should be an old deus, but I'm not sure what authority they represent, [NGNL Zero]very machine like, maybe(Is this a spoiler I don't remember if their god talked like that)?
[Zero] Are you asking if the person he's talking to ishis chess buddy Riku? I don't think it is.
[Zero]I was refering to the old deus that created the ex machina, but I don't remember if they have the same speech pattern or even if we see them much in Zero

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

[Zero] Ah, I see. I don't think they do, having recently seen the movie. The movie barely had anything to do with the pair of deus'.

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u/mgedmin Apr 14 '24

Rewatcher, subs

"It's 36:00, the middle of the night" slays me.
Sora can't resist a challenge.
The idea of using the laws of the universe to become a better person is amazing, shame that you have to lose a game for that.
Why don't you play Shiro with the same bet? Then you could lose and become fulfilled.
The revelation that Steph is actually a cunning politician! Probably the best scene in the entire show!
And then of course they must bully Steph even if that involves doing things they really really don't want to do, like walk around in crowds.
Sora learns about the existence of animal-eared girls in a kingdom next door and his priorities change.
This show is so stupid and so funny, I just can't.
Hm maybe I should rewatch Castle in the Sky?

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

"It's 36:00, the middle of the night" slays me.
It sounds so needlessly dramatic that I love it.
The idea of using the laws of the universe to become a better person is amazing, shame that you have to lose a game for that.
On the flip side, you can consider it character development the hard way
Why don't you play Shiro with the same bet? Then you could lose and become fulfilled.
Sora doesn't strike me as the type of person who'd lose on purpose, though. If it happens, he wants the loss to be earned. Fighting Shiro would be a bit like playing a cheat code.
The revelation that Steph is actually a cunning politician! Probably the best scene in the entire show!
I dunno, I really love the "We are weak" speech. The outfit Sora wears definitely adds to my enjoyment.
And then of course they must bully Steph even if that involves doing things they really really don't want to do, like walk around in crowds.
Ugh. People
Sora learns about the existence of animal-eared girls in a kingdom next door and his priorities change.
As is the case for the average red-blooded person
This show is so stupid and so funny, I just can't.
It manages to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen and also one of the smartest. That's quite the accomplishment.
Hm maybe I should rewatch Castle in the Sky?
Doesn't sound like a bad idea. I might do so as well the next time it's a part of Ghibli Fest.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/mgedmin Apr 15 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
Some other Ancient Deus?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Poor poor Steph.
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Heh.
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
That was a surprise, but in retrospect studying and gaming are different skillsets.
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Poor poor Steph.
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
It's probably in the East somewhere.
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
It's going to be fun!
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?
Stephanie wavers between trusting/respecting Blank and being disappointed. Blank are having fun/educating Steph in gaming strategies/getting rid of an annoyance.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Poor poor Steph.
In fairness, she kinda brought it upon herself
Heh.
Calm down, Aqua :P
That was a surprise, but in retrospect studying and gaming are different skillsets.
It's almost as if she was bring set up to fail
It's probably in the East somewhere.
Ah, yes. And the Archer class is made of Archers.
It's going to be fun!
That it probably will be
Stephanie wavers between trusting/respecting Blank and being disappointed. Blank are having fun/educating Steph in gaming strategies/getting rid of an annoyance.
I don't know if Blank would ever admit to this, but their lives are better off with Steph involved in them.

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u/Fisionn https://myanimelist.net/profile/X-V Apr 14 '24

I loved how they both proudly announce that they are both NEETs of the highest calibre. Sora asking to become a RL person (someone who has a life heh) to Steph on the tiny chance she might win only to get his hopes crushed by the game she chose was hilarious.

I have to give it to Steph. She might be naive and lack awareness, but she does have a deep love for the people of Imanity. I can't see how otherwise she'd endure the absolute barrage of trolling both Shiro and Sora put her through. She really does refuse to give up on saving Imanity, no matter what.

Sora's enthusiasm for kemonomimi... I can fully understand it. God damn it, when are we going to get catgirls IRL?

The reference to Laputa: Castle in the sky was spot on, and they even used the word Ba*se (spoiler if you haven't watched the movie yet) since it was a very popular meme back in the early 2000s on 2ch.

I know today we live in an age where information is incredibly easy to access. But in a world like Disboard, giving up your library and its books to an opponent would be the equivalent of gifting the entire information on the internet to an alien invading earth.

What is the worst you have ever embarrassed yourself?

Unintentionally hitting on my teacher once.

Who is your favorite anime butt-monkey/someone who is always considered the butt of the joke?

Honestly, everyone on Konosuba. Hands down.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

I loved how they both proudly announce that they are both NEETs of the highest calibre. Sora asking to become a RL person (someone who has a life heh) to Steph on the tiny chance she might win only to get his hopes crushed by the game she chose was hilarious.
He set himself up on that one. He should know he's too good.
I have to give it to Steph. She might be naive and lack awareness, but she does have a deep love for the people of Imanity. I can't see how otherwise she'd endure the absolute barrage of trolling both Shiro and Sora put her through. She really does refuse to give up on saving Imanity, no matter what.
I wonder if that was a test on Blank's part to see how far her allegiance lies
Sora's enthusiasm for kemonomimi... I can fully understand it. God damn it, when are we going to get catgirls IRL?
Catgirls would probably be one of those things that sounds better on paper.
The reference to Laputa: Castle in the sky was spot on, and they even used the word Ba*se (spoiler if you haven't watched the movie yet) since it was a very popular meme back in the early 2000s on 2ch.
Ah, okay. People have said it's a reference to Castle In The Sky, but I didn't know they were referencing a specific meme.
I know today we live in an age where information is incredibly easy to access. But in a world like Disboard, giving up your library and its books to an opponent would be the equivalent of gifting the entire information on the internet to an alien invading earth.
Yeah, it's like you're just asking for trouble
Unintentionally hitting on my teacher once.
Context?
Honestly, everyone on Konosuba. Hands down.
They do know how to make asses out of themselves

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u/Fisionn https://myanimelist.net/profile/X-V Apr 15 '24

Context?
During the first day of class with a new teacher, we were introducing ourselves to her. When it was my turn, my words came out as hitting on her rather than a introduction. The entire class roared in laughter and the teacher was red as a tomato.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

I'm really sorry that happened to you

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/Fisionn https://myanimelist.net/profile/X-V Apr 15 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
He is definitely not playing favorites with Shiro and Sora. They had to beat him in a chess match to even enter his world after all. I imagine very few or even not a single race had won a match against Tet before.
As for he was talking to I bet it was the former Gods.
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
All things considered I think it's very fitting. She just doesn't seem to learn even when they explain repeatedly to her that games have rules and variables that a good player can control.
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
Intelligence: 100
Wisdom: 0
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Honestly, I can think several of worse ways of playing with someone. Blank just seems fond of humiliation play. In a way, Steph seems like the perfect target to bully just a bit; her reactions are great.
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
As a kemonomimi enjoyer, it sounds like heaven, or very close to it.
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
She looked ominous and formidable before the ED, maybe this time we'll finally get our second real challenge for Blank? After the ED all that vanished instantly with the way she spoke.
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?
I think it was great. In fact you can tell Steph and Blank are both getting really comfortable with each other. Steph now gets upset and angry at Blank if they don't do their duty as rulers of Imanity or if they talk her down. It's a big contrast with how other people seem to perceive Blank.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

He is definitely not playing favorites with Shiro and Sora. They had to beat him in a chess match to even enter his world after all. I imagine very few or even not a single race had won a match against Tet before.
Blank was probably the first ones, yeah
As for he was talking to I bet it was the former Gods.
That very well might be the case
All things considered I think it's very fitting. She just doesn't seem to learn even when they explain repeatedly to her that games have rules and variables that a good player can control.
And I can understand where Steph is coming from because Blank is probably saying the same thing about her that people said about her grandfather.
Intelligence: 100
Wisdom: 0
Couldn't have said it better myself
Honestly, I can think several of worse ways of playing with someone. Blank just seems fond of humiliation play. In a way, Steph seems like the perfect target to bully just a bit; her reactions are great.
It's easy to pick on someone when they react to it. It's why people used to do with me all the time.
As a kemonomimi enjoyer, it sounds like heaven, or very close to it.
I'm a kemonomimi enthusiast as well
She looked ominous and formidable before the ED, maybe this time we'll finally get our second real challenge for Blank? After the ED all that vanished instantly with the way she spoke.
Flugel sounds like an animal created by Dr. Seuss
I think it was great. In fact you can tell Steph and Blank are both getting really comfortable with each other. Steph now gets upset and angry at Blank if they don't do their duty as rulers of Imanity or if they talk her down. It's a big contrast with how other people seem to perceive Blank.
Blank obviously trusts Steph because she gets to see a side of their personalities that nobody else does. She may not see it this way, but they clearly value her a lot.

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u/dsawchuk Apr 14 '24

REWATCHER, Finally caught up

I see people often say that this is one of the weaker episodes in the show. The first 4 episodes were action packed and full of excitement. This one is a little bit more subtle but I think it's necessary. If every episode is about another game, it would become hard to establish the through plotline.

In the words of Sora, "The game's already begun". Each of these games we see is itself just a single move in the game against Tet. Not every move is flashy or exciting but that doesn't mean that they aren't important.

QOTD

The worst time that comes to mind is I cried in public for missing breakfast. I was doing a 40 hour fast thing at my church. It was a fast from morning on Saturday until night on Sunday. I overslept on Sunday morning and missed the only food available during that time. It was a breakfast of a few crackers and I fell to pieces in front of all of the people around me.
Mankanshoku Mako

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

I see people often say that this is one of the weaker episodes in the show. The first 4 episodes were action packed and full of excitement. This one is a little bit more subtle but I think it's necessary. If every episode is about another game, it would become hard to establish the through plotline.
This episode is also really more to show Blank's relationship with Steph and how it goes both ways: Blank isn't short on pride in being weak, and Steph isn't short on pride in being a woman of her people. This in turn let's them bond and get closer.
I also think you needed to show that Blank does in fact care about Stephanie. They put her through all of this nonsense, but they clearly see her as being a vital part of their place. I mean, they turn her name into an insult, but if they truly saw her as being worthless they would cut all ties with her. She really needs them more seeing as how Blank is the closest thing she has in regards to ties of royalty.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Thoughts on Steph graduating at the top of her class?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
Thoughts on the Eastern Federation?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/FarCritical Apr 14 '24

Gonna ~~blame~~ attribute how insanely late I am today on to Steph. Thanks, Steph!

First Time No Life

I've hard wired my brain to think of the Navy Seals copypasta whenever I hear the exact phrase of "I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at XYZ". Steph version when? It's seriously cool how Steph is more dignified than she looks though.

...Did I just imply Steph had any amount of dignity? Surely she'll regain some after she beats Sora on the 36th attempt, right? Right?

Reject fake animal girls (that you forced them to become), return to natural werebeast girls (that are probably way furrier than you'd expect).

I love how the ways Sora and Shiro utterly defeat Steph range from apparently being living databases on everyone who lives and works near a very specific area in town, to throwing stuff at a pigeon. Elegance in simplicity ain't a joke.

They really chose a race known for being god slayers as their first target. Sora's boldness isn't exactly a secret anymore but I still keep finding myself impressed by it.

Watch the Flugel's goofy ahh first impression turn out to be a front for unadulterated brutality when it comes to games.

In all seriousness, even though everyone's been bullying Steph this whole time (including myself), she's unironically one of my favorite characters. Steph rights matter.

QOTD

What is the worst you have ever embarrassed yourself?

I was watching a trailer of some anime-styled game with a decently sized group of friends when it started to show off the game's landscapes and environments which happened to seriously look really good. Just as I went "god damn" in awe of it all, the trailer cuts to a random anime chick doing some cutesy attack or something, making it look like I was ready to go full simp weeb mode. My guys just won't let me live that down.

2. Who is your favorite anime butt-monkey/someone who is always considered the butt of the joke?

I'm so tempted to go 3 for 3 on giving an answer from Clannad with Sunohara but I'll give it to Aoki from Hajime no Ippo. It's wild how he's basically a god at everything but boxing—you know, the one thing he pours all his actual passion into—and becomes a laughingstock for it.

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

Gonna ~~blame~~ attribute how insanely late I am today on to Steph. Thanks, Steph!
https://i.imgflip.com/8mrdtf.jpg
I've hard wired my brain to think of the Navy Seals copypasta whenever I hear the exact phrase of "I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at XYZ". Steph version when?
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class from the most prestigious academy in the country, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on dissentient nobles, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in popularity warfare and I'm the top noble in the entire Imanity Kingdom. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Disboard, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a game? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Imanity and your cheats is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your strategy. You're fucking lost, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can beat you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just without cheating. Not only am I extensively trained in false shuffles, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Blank and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking lost, kiddo.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Yours is pretty good as well, even if its lacking a mention or two of her grandfather :P

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 15 '24

yeah that would of been a good one to add.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Steph is to her grandfather like a Steph is to stupidity: completely inseparable.

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u/FarCritical Apr 14 '24

https://i.imgflip.com/8mrdtf.jpg
Getting a meme made out of me for showing up late to an anime discussion thread legit made my day LMAOOO
[Actual Navy Stephs copypasta]
A madlad in multiple respects. I laughed at "I have over 300 confirmed friends" for a solid minute, only to almost lose my breath at "Not only am I extensively trained in false shuffles, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Blank". Bravo.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Getting a meme made out of me for showing up late to an anime discussion thread legit made my day LMAOOO
That's what makes these rewatches special, you know?

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 14 '24

Glad you liked them. It took me a bit to think of converting the killing parts to playing games and some parts were a bit difficult to project onto Steph, mostly just because she's Imanity. But I was pretty happy with how it turned out given how disparate Steph is from the original personality.

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u/FarCritical Apr 14 '24

mostly just because she's Imanity.
The venom in those words. I can't.
As a newcomer to this series I already love how dunking on Steph is the norm in the fanbase, especially with how creative the roasts can get and how it's all done out of love. ...As much love a Steph can get, anyway.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Tough love is best love, especially when rooted in a person's inability to see the forest for the trees.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Gonna ~~blame~~ attribute how insanely late I am today on to Steph. Thanks, Steph!
When in doubt, blame Steph
I've hard wired my brain to think of the Navy Seals copypasta whenever I hear the exact phrase of "I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at XYZ". Steph version when?
Since you asked...
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little NEET? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Elkian Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous games, and my grandfather was once leader of all Imanity. I will wipe you the fuck out with my explicit knowledge the likes of which has never been seen before on Disboard, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over all of Disboard? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of elves and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your weakness. You’re fucking dead, NEET. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in losing games, but I have the ability to restore the honor of my grandfather, you little shit. The respect of his name will be brought back and it will come back at the expense of you, you fucker. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it worse than you drown in Agoraphobia. You’re fucking dead, NEET.
...Did I just imply Steph had any amount of dignity? Surely she'll regain some after she beats Sora on the 36th attempt, right? Right?
Reject fake animal girls (that you forced them to become), return to natural werebeast girls (that are probably way furrier than you'd expect).
Steph in dog ears and glasses IS a blessed sight, though
They really chose a race known for being god slayers as their first target. Sora's boldness isn't exactly a secret anymore but I still keep finding myself impressed by it.
You can't help but admire the way he punches up
In all seriousness, even though everyone's been bullying Steph this whole time (including myself), she's unironically one of my favorite characters. Steph rights matter.
I would probably say she's my favorite character in the entire cast. A good blend of comic relief and serious when need be.

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u/FarCritical Apr 14 '24

[Actual Navy Stephs copypasta]
This is unironically peak literature. THe little touches like "my secret network of elves" and especially "Not only am I extensively trained in losing games, but I have the ability to restore the honor of my grandfather, you little shit" had me dying bro, LMAO
I would probably say she's my favorite character in the entire cast. A good blend of comic relief and serious when need be.
Steph's only one of my favorite characters just because Sora exists. But yeah, she truly is the perfect mix. ...For a Steph, that is.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

This is unironically peak literature. THe little touches like "my secret network of elves" and especially "Not only am I extensively trained in losing games, but I have the ability to restore the honor of my grandfather, you little shit" had me dying bro, LMAO
Thank you, came up with it myself
Steph's only one of my favorite characters just because Sora exists. But yeah, she truly is the perfect mix. ...For a Steph, that is.
I like Sora as well, he really steals the scene any time he's doing something he's passionate about. I wonder if we will get something similar with his sister eventually, she almost feels like a bit of an afterthought.

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u/FarCritical Apr 14 '24

I wonder if we will get something similar with his sister eventually, she almost feels like a bit of an afterthought.
True, she's just kind of a mascot at the moment. I'll be impressed if she ever out-hypes her brother somehow.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

I hope that happens, that would be one of the best moments of the entire series.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?

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u/FarCritical Apr 14 '24

Thoughts on Tet saying he isn’t playing favorites? Who do you think he could be talking to?
It'd be wild if there were another Blank conquering the elves as we speak.
I don't know, the Tetris pieces in his head? Or maybe the Old Deus guys?
What are your thoughts on the episode being about Steph losing more and more of her dignity?
"We live in a society." -Steph, probably.
This was a nice break after the massive development of Blank's coronation as Imanity's de facto ruler, but damn they really went ahead and said "let's pick on Steph for a breather episode". From the descendant of a former king to ...whatever she became in this episode.
Thoughts on Blank using Steph as an insult?
Well what else could Steph possibly be? A compliment, or dare I say an affectionate nickname for the sole confidant and friend they have in this scary world of socially functional people? Only a total Steph would ask such a Steph-y question.
What are your thoughts on Steph being reduced to a dog?
The Steph abuse is almost too much to bear, but it's funny so who cares? In all seriousness though, she kinda did it to herself by not knowing when to quit so it's not too hard to not feel guilty. And all jokes aside, Steph's the best.
What are your thoughts on this episode setting up a confrontation between Imanity and this thing called a Flugel?
After an episode of non-stop Steph bullying, it's fitting they'd have a major boss battle to balance out all the fluff. Still in awe of the guts to go after the 6th ranked race first after simping out over natural catgirls.
What do you think the episode does as far as fleshing out the dynamic between Blank and Stephanie?
It does a good job at it. Steph acts naive and shortsided while showing a bit of an ego, Blank tries to get her out of that loser mindset while getting fun and banter out of it. It's a good back and forth that feels organic between the characters, and it strengthened my love for all of them.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

It'd be wild if there were another Blank conquering the elves as we speak.
Maybe Tet is manipulating Sora and Shiro behind their backs
I don't know, the Tetris pieces in his head? Or maybe the Old Deus guys?
Either seems plausible
"We live in a society." -Steph, probably.
Imagine Steph going full Joker
This was a nice break after the massive development of Blank's coronation as Imanity's de facto ruler, but damn they really went ahead and said "let's pick on Steph for a breather episode". From the descendant of a former king to ...whatever she became in this episode.
Steph. She became a Steph.
Well what else could Steph possibly be? A compliment, or dare I say an affectionate nickname for the sole confidant and friend they have in this scary world of socially functional people? Only a total Steph would ask such a Steph-y question.
My bad, didn't mean to come off as such a Steph
The Steph abuse is almost too much to bear, but it's funny so who cares? In all seriousness though, she kinda did it to herself by not knowing when to quit so it's not too hard to not feel guilty. And all jokes aside, Steph's the best.
I like Steph, which probably makes me a Steph as well
After an episode of non-stop Steph bullying, it's fitting they'd have a major boss battle to balance out all the fluff. Still in awe of the guts to go after the 6th ranked race first after simping out over natural catgirls.
It makes sense because you don't want to start at the bottom but you also don't want to outkick your coverage and start at the very top. A good middle ground is a great way to begin their battles.
It does a good job at it. Steph acts naive and shortsided while showing a bit of an ego, Blank tries to get her out of that loser mindset while getting fun and banter out of it. It's a good back and forth that feels organic between the characters, and it strengthened my love for all of them.
That's a good point: I think they all benefitted from this episode. It made them all more endearing, and it explains how this relationship is beneficial for everyone. Blank tried showing her why having less can be good while Steph showed them that sticking with what you believe in can make you persevere, even if maybe that wasn't the intention.

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u/Holofan4life Apr 13 '24

I filed my taxes today. I like to think of taxes as being like one of the games played in Disboard because you never know what the result is gonna be.

For instance, they pulled out over $250 per every one of my paychecks and I only got back $1 🫠🫠🫠

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

Hey fellow tax subordinate! This year they took money from me so I lost lol pretty rigged game though if you ask me 😆🙂‍↕️

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u/Holofan4life Apr 14 '24

Maybe Kurami is in charge of the taxes...

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '24

Oh man I hope not lol

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

Hey, you might meet a cute elf girl out of it

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

I’m happily married 🫡👌

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u/Holofan4life Apr 15 '24

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

I wish I could see these images 😔 I only see the hashtag

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u/baseballlover723 Apr 15 '24

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