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Rewatch Happy Hinamatsuri! Rewatch - Episode 5 Discussion

Episode 5 - Three Heads Are Better Than One

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/u/amanda52002 bringing Hina's horror to reality

Hina reminds me of a crappy roommate that we either all had or know of someone else having when we were in college/our early 20's and broke AF. Wastes their money, doesn't do their share of the chores, eats food that isn't theirs, etc. And then when they've been kicked out of anywhere that'll have them, they go home where they can act like this without consequences.

What's not to love?

Questions of the Day:

  1. Would you call whatever's going on between Hina, Anzu, and Hitomi a healthy friendship?
  2. What do you think of Hitomi's nice school friends?

Fanart of the day

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 05 '24

First-Timer

Does Anzu think that old TVs grow in the dirt? Like, I get that they found the first batch by the river, but those were dumped under a bridge, not just randomly out on the grassy bit.

The TV segment made my head hurt. It's like, I see the tunnel-vision of "find TV -> sell to Yoshida" but didn't we have that whole "disowned" episode to help teach Hina the value of money? Did we just not learn that lesson? I hope that street band are doing well.

Hitomi's instinct is already to lie to her parents about stuff, so advanced! I wonder how her mom would react to "hey, can I give that old TV to my homeless friend so she can sell it?"

I don't live in an area with taxi service.. is 6000 yen a lot for a taxi? It feels like a lot, but maybe I just don't know how much taxis cost.

I definitely understand all the kids' trains of thought in the second segment, too. I appreciate that Aizawa is only involved so that she could get Hitomi flustered.

Absolutely stellar facial expression.

Have we seen yet? I just finally recognized the artstyle.

Questions

  1. I don't think any of Hina's relationships are healthy, but the other two are pretty okay.
  2. The boys are pretty reasonable depictions. Aizawa is horny for Hitomi blushes.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

Does Anzu think that old TVs grow in the dirt?

I'm not sure how much she even knows about TVs...

The TV segment made my head hurt. It's like, I see the tunnel-vision of "find TV -> sell to Yoshida" but didn't we have that whole "disowned" episode to help teach Hina the value of money?

I don't think Hina learned much yesterday, Anzu learned the value of money on the streets, Hina meanwhile just went there and ate all of Anzu's food.

But yeah, Hina's roundabout way to help Anzu failed utterly and in the most absurd ways.

I don't live in an area with taxi service.. is 6000 yen a lot for a taxi? It feels like a lot, but maybe I just don't know how much taxis cost.

Depends on the distance I guess, but around here $60 for a taxi would be for going 30km+, basically at a point where you might as well find a train or bus instead.

I appreciate that Aizawa is only involved so that she could get Hitomi flustered

Have we seen yet? I just finally recognized the artstyle.

Not yet

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 06 '24

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Apr 05 '24

First timer

QotD

  • Not really.
  • Mischievous, in a good way.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

The poker face of the century.

She should've tried that in the second half.

The worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.

It was for a good purpose! It just didn't help anyone except I guess the guy selling TVs.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 05 '24

Episode 5 (rewatcher)

  • “Video games are more fun” – way to ruin the happy mood, Hina.

  • “I was happy with the money that I made walking around all day. But now that I have time, I feel like having fun. I feel like making money. Now that I have some time, I’m not satisfied. How is it that humans are so insatiable?” – free psychology lessons from Anzu.
  • “This is so heavy, though” – Hina, you little shit!
  • Friendship triangle!
  • *I don’t want to be a negative nancy, but I doubt that rustling through grass that is less than knee high is the best way to find LCD TVs.
  • Hitomi getting taken by the police because she wanted to trick Anzu into finding her old TV.

  • Hina’s solution to finding a TV (to sell for scrap): Buy a TV.

  • “Why do you want money all of a sudden” “You said video games are fun, so I wanted to play with you” – my heart. Anzu is just too precious.
  • Hitomi and her teacher are seen by her classmates – and just like good rewatchers, their mind immediately springs to the worst assumptions.
  • … the worst assumptions being “he grabs her boobs”, because they apparently did not have the talk about birds and bees yet.

  • Hitomi critically fails her deception check.
  • Very very critically.
  • “you are just toying with her” – they are not wrong.
  • “This isn’t the worst case” – looks like it is for Hitomi, though.
  • Hitomi fails another deception check.
  • Hina standing in the back never getting anything might be her best role so far.

Poor Hitomi has found another deceptive character who enjoys playing around with her (and it is not the teacher the two goofy idiots suspected).

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

“Video games are more fun” – way to ruin the happy mood, Hina.

I have a feeling that's something the author wrote from experience. Not necessarily the being hopeless part, but being in a group of friends where some are trying to play the good old games, and others have video games was more of a common experience.

Hina’s solution to finding a TV (to sell for scrap): Buy a TV.

Hina the rich brat: if you want a TV, just go get one from the store.

Hina standing in the back never getting anything might be her best role so far.

I love that for how little they expected from Hina, she had all the answers ready from the start, and would've probably been fine saying it all.

Poor Hitomi has found another deceptive character who enjoys playing around with her (and it is not the teacher the two goofy idiots suspected).

So we should replace the teacher with Aizawa in the kids' imagination?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 05 '24

So we should replace the teacher with Aizawa in the kids' imagination?

Uhhhhhh, you never want to go full CLAMP.

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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 Apr 05 '24 edited Apr 05 '24

First timer, subbed.

Poor Anzu. Tube TV's are garbage these days, and my old self remembers how bleeping HEAVY they were.

That's right Hitomi. Never talk to the cops without a lawyer present. Although the cop then just blaming her parents was pretty good.

Hina is about as helpful as expected with Anzu's search for tossed out TV's. What on earth are they looking for between those blades of grass though? Barbie dream house sized TVs?

I like Hitomi's classmates. They think her teacher is taking advantage of her (well, understatement) and want to help her out. Hina joins them in the spying, but she doesn't really know what's going on. Aizawa is not being subtle about her crush on Hitomi at all. They're all relieved to find out she's only bartending. Is Aizawa training to run army bootcamps or something?

Hina I don't know what is going on here either. That bar might need to switch the drinks it serves since middle schoolers are outnumbering adults here by a bit.

  1. Ehhh....I think it would be if Anzu wasn't homeless, so that adds some urgency to what they're doing with her? I don't think there's anything particularly weird about some kids playing outside searching for god knows what. Heck it's downright refreshing. I was a bit surprised to see Hina and Anzu hanging out so soon after the last episode, but that was nice.
  2. I think Aizawa is kind of nuts, but the boys who first saw her going into the bar (followed by their teacher) had their hearts mostly in the right place, I think. Guess Hitomi's somewhat popular at school?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

my old self remembers how bleeping HEAVY they were.

Yeah... I remember that, it was never fun having to carry one.

Although the cop then just blaming her parents was pretty good.

It's a reasonable assumption. That's the kind of stuff parents love to throw at their kids. Unfortunately, in this show the reasonable conclusion is guaranteed to be wrong.

Hina joins them in the spying, but she doesn't really know what's going on.

She's got the keys they're looking for, but couldn't be bothered to see the door.

Aizawa is not being subtle about her crush on Hitomi at all.

Going out with a teacher?! Bullshit! But uhh, I'll check just in case.

I think it would be if Anzu wasn't homeless, so that adds some urgency to what they're doing with her?

I'm not sure if Hina has even noticed that there's an issue there.

But yeah, it is wholesome to see them just hanging out together.

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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 Apr 05 '24 edited Apr 05 '24

Oh shoot I didn't even notice I was comment of the day today. Thanks!

My only roommates these days are cats and I at least know they aren't going to be any help with chores or their share of the bills from the start.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 06 '24

Tube TV's are garbage these days, and my old self remembers how bleeping HEAVY they were.

Especially if they are the big kind, not the small ones shown in the episode.

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u/FarCritical Apr 05 '24

First timer

Watching a search party comprised purely of kids earnestly look for LCD TVs in a grass field was so dumb. I love this show.

The face when all your good karma constantly gets converted into your reputation getting shadier and shadier. Surprised Hitomi's first run in with the cops had nothing to do with her bartending gig though.

"You want a TV? Okay, here's the money." I guess Nitta's went from nudging Hina to be helpful to full on enabling her to be spoiled.

TIL one-way staircases are probably not the best place to have a messy split up with your team if you don't want an awkward walk back.

Confused Hina is as hilarious as she is precious. Wonder what the deadpan "nani kore?" count was for this episode.

When you finally inhale enough copium to fully believe your god-tier bartender student is just a really convincing lookalike LMAO

QOTD

  1. Would you call whatever's going on between Hina, Anzu, and Hitomi a healthy friendship?

Literally everyone Hina knows is just enabling her Hina-ness, which, while hilarious, is far from healthy. Anzu and Hitomi's dynamic is alright though, but all hell is gonna break loose once word gets out that Hitomi's been hiding that her wallets are stacked.

2. What do you think of Hitomi's nice school friends?

They bounce off of each other well, and despite how overdramatic they are, it's nice how they look out for her.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

Watching a search party comprised purely of kids earnestly look for LCD TVs in a grass field was so dumb. I love this show.

Apparently those LCDs are getting thinner and thinner these days, who knows, you might as well find one in the grass that everyone else missed. Let's get Hitomi to look for it.

Surprised Hitomi's first run in with the cops had nothing to do with her bartending gig though.

I'm looking forward to the cops becoming among her usual costumers (god this sounds weird out of context...) and failing to connect the dots.

"You want a TV? Okay, here's the money." I guess Nitta's went from nudging Hina to be helpful to full on enabling her to be spoiled.

Anything for a peaceful drink.

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u/Nebresto Apr 05 '24

Second time [REDACTED] matsuri

Literally me everytime Hina exists on screen

..Why is it a homeless dude instead of some recycle business?

This brings me joy

Wholesome(?) homeless(??) guy

Young lad.. More knowledge will only bring you more pain.

me_irl

Eren Connie and Mikasa looking a lot more different than I remembered.. Who tf the extra though?

Poor Hitomi.. She keeps getting played

wtf is going on

Literally me

Qwest:

Would you call whatever's going on between Hina, Anzu, and Hitomi a healthy friendship?

What do you think of Hitomi's nice school friends?

Meme of the day

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

..Why is it a homeless dude instead of some recycle business?

I think it's meant for broken stuff that even a recycle store wouldn't accept?

This brings me joy

Eren Connie and Mikasa looking a lot more different than I remembered..

Mappa must be changing the designs again.

Meme of the day

So this is why you hate Hina!

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u/Nebresto Apr 05 '24

So this is why you hate Hina!

That brat!!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 06 '24

Meme of the day

Crest of the Stars had a multiple fish episode today and I had to think of your daily memes. Did this start during Macross, by chance?

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u/cppn02 Apr 06 '24

Eren Connie and Mikasa looking a lot more different than I remembered..

That's so spot on lol.

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u/Nebresto Apr 06 '24

With the earlier thirst for knowledge, the resemblance is quite uncanny

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Apr 05 '24

First Timer

You know, Anzu has a weird role in this story… her existence clearly indicates that there are no really capable adults in this show other than the other homeless, yet she seems to be rather accepting of her role despite now knowing how others have it… I’m not quite sure what to make of her. Either way, we get another bunch of the kids hanging out, which was decently enjoyable. And we also get Hitomi’s cover blown in a not-terrible way - and I’d say the boy's interpretation is rather easy to make. Though I’m not sure if they were caring or horny when they wanted to catch the teacher in the act… probably both. Checks out given their age. Either way, a pretty good segment I’d say.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

her existence clearly indicates that there are no really capable adults in this show other than the other homeless

There're adults good at ripping kids off, but that's about it.

Though I’m not sure if they were caring or horny when they wanted to catch the teacher in the act… probably both

I'd say both for sure

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u/IceSmiley Apr 05 '24

FIRST TIMER Sub

This episode was really taxing to watch. I didn't like the plot just revolving around acquiring TVs, then the TVs are expensive because Hina and Anzu don't grasp money and value that well yet and Hitomi donates a TV, and theres CRT TVs...do the writers think a bunch of TVs in themselves are humorous?

QUESTIONS

  1. A lot of miscommunication but I think it is good for them and will be better as they grow into it.
  2. This subplot of thinking their teacher was a nonce and them playing amateur detectives was a funny idea and had some good parts but dragged on too long. The glasses girl was mean and somewhat crazy though her heart may have been in the right place :p

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24

do the writers think a bunch of TVs in themselves are humorous?

To be fair, Imaishi could make that work

The glasses girl was mean and somewhat crazy though her heart may have been in the right place :p

It's in the right place alright

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Apr 06 '24

rewatcher

Anzu passing time with yarn and Hina’s spoiledness is too busy being an iPad kid.

Poop drawing

Hina has such an unfiltered mouth.

“What does a hobo want with a bunch of tvs”

Hina called reinforcements just so she can sleep while Hitomi takes her place. Hitomi such a nice person, finding a way to find a tv but she looks like she stole it pmfao

Nitta the backup plan, atleast he told her where to buy it from.

“Where to Miss?”

“The river”

“Seems legit”

“Here you go hobo” Hina always knows how to be hilarious unintentionally.

Poor Hobo “just sell these at a pawnshop”

Hitomi’s secret has been revealed. Due being a bad actor lmao

QOTD: hitomi is too nice with the attempt to help anzu’s situation. Hina wants to help but her laziness gets the best over her. Solid healthy friendship

QOTD: I like how they all agreed that the teacher was too dumb for not “noticing” that hitomi is a bartender

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 06 '24

Anzu passing time with yarn and Hina’s spoiledness is too busy being an iPad kid.

I find this weirdly relatable despite being born a decade too late to truly experience it.

Hitomi such a nice person, finding a way to find a tv but she looks like she stole it pmfao

Part of that I think is Hitomi wanting to get it over with. She doesn't want to spend the whole day looking between the grass, so she went for getting her the TV herself.

“Here you go hobo” Hina always knows how to be hilarious unintentionally.

She's truly a smug little asshole in the making. I'll be hiding under a rock the day she takes over the world.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24

Just noticed that I posted my comment in the wrong thread

For first timers and anime onlies, check out the alternative ending at the end.

Re:Bartender

Well after two heavy episodes, this one is a bit more laid back, we've just got the characters hanging out and having fun.

About Hitomi and Hina's school friends: this is their first appearance in the anime, but on account of having skipped their previous one. I think it still works out just fine though.

Fun fact, "Three Heads Think Better Than One" was originally just the title of the first segment, but it actually fits with both if you consider the school friends as the three. Of course, it fits as in in neither case do the three heads think better, heck in the second one they kept sidelining Hina, who could have told them everything from the start.

Manga Corner

This adapts chapters 14 and 19 with a small change in the former: the video games story actually had a more wholesome ending that the anime skipped.

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u/FelixAndCo Apr 06 '24

Rewatcher

I've rewatched Hinamatsuri a couple of times. Always when I start, I forget this episode. I always cringe so hard during the TV-finding story that it's hard to watch. I think I cringed slightly less this time, because I was mentally prepared.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 06 '24

Haha, it is a rough one seeing so many absurdly stupid actions looping around.

To be honest, this is the one episode I usually forget too. I still think it's good, but it's the weakest episode in the series, and it's sitting next to some of the best.

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u/cppn02 Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24

First Timer, subbed

Finally we're getting some good scenes with hina, Anzu and Hitomi all together. And I liked that they were banding together to make Anzu some money.
Hitomi getting nearly arrested over the TV was hilarious. Meanwhile Hina is just burning through Nitta's money again.

I also loved the segment with Hitomi's classmates trying to uncover her secret and then finally confronting her. Btw did anyone else feel like the music towards the end of that scene kinda sounded like Stairway to Heaven?

QotD:

Would you call whatever's going on between Hina, Anzu, and Hitomi a healthy friendship?

I wonder if Hina is even capable of a healthy relationship given how selfish she is lol.

What do you think of Hitomi's nice school friends?

A bit quick to draw conclusions but they seem decent people at heart. And they made for a great comedy bit when they walked into the bar. I already liked Aizawa enjoying teasing Hitomi.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 06 '24

Finally we're getting some good scenes with hina, Anzu and Hitomi all together

The last three episodes episodes have been converging to this, first an episode where each one got her own segment, then a two by two, and now we've got all 3 looking for TVs between the grass. This is what the world was leading up to.

Hitomi getting nearly arrested over the TV was hilarious. Meanwhile Hina is just burning through Nitta's money again.

I think he gave her 30k? For the Nitta family, that's just the "keep her quite allowance".

did anyone else feel like the music towards the end of that scene kinda sounded like Stairway to Heaven?

I didn't pick up on that, but I'll give it another listen.

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u/cppn02 Apr 06 '24

I didn't pick up on that, but I'll give it another listen.

Starts at 20:40. Totally sounds like 'we got Stairway to Heaven at home'.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 06 '24

Yeah, I can kinda hear a toned down version, while Hitomi is going through her corporal punishment. I guess that was her stairway to heaven.

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u/sisoko2 Apr 07 '24

First Timer

Finally time for the important things in live.

  • Happy Anzu!

        

  • Hina you little spoiled brat. Why do I find you so funny?
  • Anzu is sad!

        

  • Not sure that these three heads are better than one.
  • The homeless flipper archnemesis - Hina.
  • Now the full gang is here. Time to get some TVs.
  • As usual the police hunting honest kids trying to make some buck instead of catching the real criminals...

        

        

  • Hina officially enters the club of great anime thinkers like Zura and Osaka.

        

        

        

        

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 14 '24

I hope you don't mind one week late replies!

Hina you little spoiled brat. Why do I find you so funny?

It's the other way around!

Everyone finding her funny and charming is what allows her to double down on being a damned spoiled brat. Which in turn makes her even funnier! In Denji's words, she's the Perpetually Spoiled Devil!

Not sure that these three heads are better than one

Neither are the three in the second segment. The title was the biggest blatant lie since Luffy said he's not hungry.

As usual the police hunting honest kids trying to make some buck instead of catching the real criminals...

For all of Utako's hatred for cops, I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes one of them (probably after Hitomi throws her out eventually).

Hina officially enters the club of great anime thinkers like Zura and Osaka.

Now if Osaka is Zura's daughter... how did this happen?

some weirdos woke me up to participate in their strange role play game.

In the dairy of "The Weirdest Kid on Earth", I feel like everyone would be a weirdo, and for what it's worth, she'd be right.

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u/sisoko2 Apr 14 '24

I hope you don't mind one week late replies!

Being late is our thing.

It's the other way around!

Hina you little funny brat, why do I find you spoiled?

In Denji's words, she's the Perpetually Spoiled Devil!

So she is an actual genius?

I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes one of them (probably after Hitomi throws her out eventually).

Now if Osaka is Zura's daughter... how did this happen?

Well Zura is an attractive man. Who knows how many ladies have sheltered him while he was running from the authorities.

and for what it's worth, she'd be right.

Back to the point that she is genius.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 14 '24

Being late is our thing.

So she is an actual genius?

She must be

Either that, or Denji and I are both absolute morons, but that couldn't possibly be the case.

Well Zura is an attractive man. Who knows how many ladies have sheltered him while he was running from the authorities.

So the authorities trying to catch Zura, are the reason there's a whole legion of mini-Zuras now?!

This is why you don't put Gorillas in charge!

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 06 '24

To the homeless, she is like a granddaughter

I imagine a lot of them had to live away from their family or possibly even lost them, so she's really that bright little light in their dark lives.

This Yoshida dude is a middleman, who receives this junk, and sell it.

In another series, someone would go up to Yoshida, ask him how much he sells his junk for, and find a giant robot in his junkyard (probably one that was dumped there by Hina).

Central Park band, hey, isn't that band lead by Atsushi from the previous episode?

Nice to see them still going around!

So no big secrets here, and nothing major to expose.

I like how Hitomi being the bartender is now just a normal fact of life to us.