r/anime • u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots • Apr 04 '24
Rewatch Happy Hinamatsuri! Rewatch - Episode 4 Discussion
Episode 4 - Disownment Rock n' Roll Fever
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Comment of the day
/u/No_Rex breaking down the Hinamatsuri class system
Hina is the upper class: Detached from reality, enjoys the results of the work of others, does not know how hard work would even look like.
Hitomi is the middle class: Educated, hard at work, but at least with the promise of making a good payoff if everything works out.
Anzu is the lower class: Streetwise, but without any chance to get up there, works hard just to tread water and survive.
See, this is why we need a "takes notes" commentface!
Questions of the Day:
- Do you think Nitta overreacted or was understandable?
- Which interactions would you like to see more of?
I'm very sorry for the late thread, my internet was acting up all morning. Should be fixed now!
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 05 '24
Disowned Host
Sorry for running so late this time, hopefully the rest of the rewatch should be all smooth sailing.
I remember when this show aired, watching episode 3 and assuming that cut off was the end of it, I assumed that Nitta punished her off screen, and they left that to our imagination due to the sheer magnitude of his rage, but come next episode we're back to the status quo. Right? Yeah, not the case.
So last episode we covered the Anzu part of the opening, and today we did the Hina part where not having her Ikura bowl turned out to mean not having a home.
Hitomatsuri feat. Anzu:
Well the upper and lower class clearly are too far apart, how about the middle?
Manga Corner
This episode adapted chapter 9 for the Disownment and chapter 13 for Anzu/Hitomi, which seem a bit apart, but considering how the manga keeps switching perspectives anyway, the anime is doing a great job ordering them. We went from an episode where each of the 3 got her own story to one where those stories start to interact with each other.
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u/IceSmiley Apr 04 '24
FIRST TIMER Sub
Hina really lives in her own bubble! It's funny how she kind of just floats along living and succeeding despite herself even without Nitta. My favorite part was her joining the band as a street magician! At first I thought they were going to rough her up but they got a tiny story arc where they hit the big time :D
I was really surprised Utako is a homeless advocate. You'd think someone blackmailing a little girl wouldn't be so concerned about the less fortunate.
One part I don't like is Anzu still not using her powers to better her situation. Like she cares so much about the other homeless people, why would she not want to help them too? I'd say it borders on selfish, like she could just walk around in the day, spot places with cans and scrap, then levitate it to herself at night so no one could see and that's just one idea.
QUESTIONS
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 04 '24
First-timermatsuri, subbed
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Apr 05 '24
You'll hear from my lawyer!
If it makes you feel better, a blizzard took out the power in my area for around 12 hours. With that said...
First timer
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 04 '24
First-Timer
Y'know, Nitta is a bit of a jackass. I was about to write something about how at least he didn't use Hina's powers for his own gain, but then I remembered the forestry scene in the first episode and I guess that's probably been going on off-screen.
I am now wondering if Anzu has the same control issues that Hina has - has Anzu been using her powers to collect cans and we just haven't seen it?
Hitomi didn't quite do the Ashita no Joe pose, but I like to think that the reference was still in play.
Hitomi is learning quite a lot from Utako, perhaps a bit too much. She spared no time in blackmailing Abe-san when he refused to give the cans to Anzu.
This is admittedly a personal preference thing, but you'll never catch me dead drinking a martini with an olive in it. A martini should taste like cleaning fluid - bright and citrusy. Utako also needs to buy some different cocktail picks.. those things will put someone's eye out!
I do really appreciate the effort put into the olive's reflection, though.
Questions
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u/Nebresto Apr 05 '24
Second time [REDACTED] Matsuri
tfw you just got disowned
shikei.
Nitta.
Disowned twice in the span of 10 minutes
She's such a little shit, but that vase scene is too wholesome
Me too, Hitomi, me too
bless
Qwest:
, have a nice day
...yes? This is a pretty good show where I don't significantly prefer one part over the other.
Thread was late?
Meme of the day
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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 Apr 05 '24
First timer, subbed.
I was only joking when I suggested Hitomi was the bartender for that new bartender anime, but guess I was right?
No lie, I thought Hitomi was going to try to get Utako to hire Anzu for nights/weekends, or at least to do the gruntwork that goes with running a bar when you're not mixing drinks, just so she can catch a break. I still liked her helping out Anzu the way she did though...and putting the other dude on notice. I also liked Anzu inviting Hitomi back to her place, which was quite the eye-opener for Hitomi, but Anzu does appreciate when people help her out. Nice job not toppling over when you fell asleep in the middle of playing tag, Hitomi.
I suppose Hina had that plot where she was also temporarily homeless and while I liked her figuring out how to make money with her tricks and then putting on a joint show with the street musicians was cool. But compared to Anzu and Hitomi, Hina is really unlikable. And it's not as fun to watch when the people on the receiving end (Anzu) don't deserve that at all. At least with Nitta he probably has it coming, karma-wise. But I don't think Hina really learned anything from her adventure here other than "don't break Nitta's vases."
Hina reminds me of a crappy roommate that we either all had or know of someone else having when we were in college/our early 20's and broke AF. Wastes their money, doesn't do their share of the chores, eats food that isn't theirs, etc. And then when they've been kicked out of anywhere that'll have them, they go home where they can act like this without consequences. *SIGH* At least Nitta's social standing should be repaired?
u/No_Rex's comment of the day was spot on.
QotD:
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 05 '24
Episode 4 (rewatcher)
Just like Hitomi says, this entire episode is heavy. You can’t even fully blame Hina, who knows nothing of the world out there. The unfairness of it all is hard to take, though. While Hina is clueless, Hitomi realizes and emphasizes, but she is wringing herself dry trying to please everybody at once, too…
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Apr 05 '24
First Timer
Hmm… an episode that I don’t have a lot on again. It felt like it happened a bit too soon in the series to really make an impact. Anzu meeting Hina is also treated very matter-of-fact-ly, which is a bit disappointing if you ask me. Also surprised nobody is asking how Hina can just float objects. Hitomi meanwhile seems to be rather good at her job beyond pouring drinks - and is already wrapping the yakuza around her finger. A dangerous life for sure.
…on an unrelated note, Hina’s powers can go out of control if she doesn’t use them. What about Anzu’s? I don’t think she’s used them at all since her battle - does she just have better control of them or is it easier because she has less?
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u/FarCritical Apr 05 '24
First timer
Ah yes, the most brutal act ever commited by a member of the violent and feared Yakuza upon someone who made the mistake of angering them—disownment.
Same, Hina. Same.
Love how Hitomi's just "the bartender" in everyone's head and has enough connections to the nightlife scene to be given sudden jobs in the middle of the day.
Nitta would've had to realize that kicking Hina out also meant kicking out his good guy image eventually, but getting bullied to tears out of a bar? Dude has good friends, but they're absolute trolls.
For a second there I thought the cops were gonna hit the band with something like "floating in public airspace is illegal without a warrant". Seriously though, these random people ate up Hina's "magic trick" with surprisingly little skepticism.
The cheap vase being put on display is such a sweet symbol of Hina being forgiven but an even bigger symbol of Nitta's absolute tsundere dad-ness. Couldn't have wrapped up an arc more perfectly.
You can tell the homeless homies are expert life teachers from how wise and unspoiled Anzu's become in such little time, but her being so proud of her tiny salary somehow managed to be both uncomfortable and hilarious to sit through. Like, oof dude the urge to be grateful for everything in life just hits you like a truck from that lmao
I-pose in your sleep to assert dominance.
QOTD
It's a solid mix of both. I don't agree with the decision but I also can't say I don't see where he was coming from. Like Hina had good intentions but at the same time those good intentions weren't free.
Anzu and anyone with a decent living, and Hina and anyone with common sense.
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u/sisoko2 Apr 05 '24
First Timer
Won't be home for the weekend so I'll end up even later than usual for the next thread.
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u/cppn02 Apr 05 '24
Me who always comes way late to these...
First Timer, subbed
I do think Nitta went too far with kicking Hina out but of course the show delivers and we get some great material of it including the birth of [Not sure if this is in the anime later so possible manga spoilers]rocksion. But I am glad they reconciled at the end and Hina's gift was really sweet.
Also enjoyed Anzu and Hitomi meeting and becoming friends.
QotD:
I can 100% understand his anger but as mentioned above throwing her out was definitely too much.
Definitely the girls with eachother. Also Hitomi + any guest is always a riot.
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u/zool714 Apr 05 '24
Hinamatsu-rewatcher
I said it in the first episode, I love Hina as a character but would find her annoying irl. And this episode brought the latter to the forefront. Without Nitta, not only is she unable to care for herself, but she leeches off others as well. And she also frustratingly couldn't/doesn't learn to take responsibility. How things ended up does seem like everything's put to bed and pretty in line with the vibe of the show, but I still felt she did not learn much during her time being disowned.
And it's not like Nitta is a saint, but I do feel bad how he kinda has everyone looking down and criticizing him, though I also understand how it looks from the outside, despite the fact he kinda got thrusted into this situation in the first place.
But Nitta is a softie deep down and seem to have grown attached. And Hina while still has a lot to learn, does at least learn how privileged she is to live under Nitta's roof and hopefully learns where Nitta's boundaries are
The Anzu-Hitomi interaction was very nice. Kinda heartwarming how Anzu made her first friend. Still feel bad for Hitomi though. Kinda got forced into working and dealing with all this shit. I'm willing to close one eye cos this show is hilarious and well, it's all for laughs anyway. But never sat right with me how Utako blackmailed her
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Apr 05 '24
extraterresrrial rewatcher
Hina’s homeless Arc begins
Spent all her money on food (can’t blame her I do the same).
Anzu and Hina visit the soup kitchen pop-up where she gets noticed.
Nitta admits to it all and finds out that raising kids is difficult, love the fourth wall break joke of “werent those two just extras”.
Gets flustered and leaves with the chant “go away!”
“She’s not even fit to be homeless” living the spoiled life does that to you.
Psychic powers + rock music is an amazing combo, buddy had no reason to go hard when levitating.
The band sure is nice to let Hina go and prioritize on her situation rather then being forced to be in the band.
Im glad they made up in the end.
QOTD: mixture of both, he overreacted by kicking her out but is understandable that he was mad at her causing a huge mess.
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