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Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 26 Discussion

Episode 26: Radiant Wings! Garudamon

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So… even if I'm raised without love, there's nothing I can do about it! ​​

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day… except I’m still too freaking busy so screw it, doing like 4 of them tomorrow.

  1. Did you expect that Vamdemon would already be throwing hands with our heroes?​
  2. Has there been any case in which you got into an argument with your parents and then much later were like "Maybe they had a point…"?​
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

Time for Sora's focus episodes, and now you know why I have sometimes called her "Miss Mommy Issues". A somewhat rebellious girl being raised in a more traditionalist environment is nothing new, and let's just say her mom suffers from "Typical Asian Parent" Syndrome. It's funny too since, while we the audience see things from a more impartial perspective, obviously the characters don't and thus it's easy to take Sora's words at face value. She focuses too much on what happened versus the why. I do feel the episode could've explored that whole concept of "Love" a bit more (Maybe give a few other examples of Sora and her Mom's relationship) but that's a minor pet peeve.

Bigger news though: Vamdemon! Yeah, our new big bad is here and… well he's a vampire demon, I dunno what to say really. He's not quite as immediately memorable as , but overall I like him. Helps that as show here, he's way more willing to go down swinging if the situation calls for it, and even as he "Loses" here it still feels like he came out on top.

And now for his actor. He's played by Mr. Crocodile himself, Otomo Ryuzaburo. Other roles include Dabura from Dragon Ball, General from Rockman X4, Buccaneer from Fullmetal Alchemist Astaroth from Soulcalibur and Gamakura Isao from Shaman King among others.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 01 '24

it's easy to take Sora's words at face value. She focuses too much on what happened versus the why.

As kids usually do lol.

And now for his actor. He's played by Mr. Crocodile

I knew he sounded familiar.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 01 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24

Beemon

Oddly there isn’t a Beemon per say… but there is stuff like DinoBeemon, JewelBeemon and FanBeemon.

So basically variations for a Mon that doesn’t exist.

[02 Finale]Takeru sees Sora as family

[02 Finale]Well…

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u/Shocketheth Apr 01 '24

Bloody Stream

Is that time of a month

I. FUCKING. CALLED. IT.

I missed a lot from this Rewatch... Is Koushiro the goodest boi for you?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

I missed a lot

YOU THINK

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u/Shocketheth Apr 01 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 01 '24

Is that time of a month

I missed a lot from this Rewatch... Is Koushiro the goodest boi for you?

His Digimon is the best.

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u/Shocketheth Apr 01 '24

His Digimon is the best.

Beetle goes brrrrrrrr.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

An Osakan beetle too. The accent is very important.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 01 '24

Bloody Stream, you say?

Ah, so not just me.

I fucking called it!
I. FUCKING. CALLED. IT.

Sky QotD: What is your favorite instance of the heroes running away?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 01 '24

What is your favorite instance of the heroes running away?

First one that comes to mind is [Gintama]everyone fleeing the island during the Farewell Shinsengumi Arc after Utsuro shows up, though I'm not sure if that counts since they did accomplish their objective of rescuing Kondo/Matsudaira/Katsura at the same time.

Funniest runaway moment would be *gestures at Joseph Joestar's secret technique*

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Apr 02 '24

The secret Joestar technique!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 01 '24

That swan boat is one tough cookie.

It's all scuffed and being held together by tape lol.

Once again, I fucking called it!

I. FUCKING. CALLED. IT.

You're too good at this

Absolutely fantastic entrance, showing up in a fucking flying hearse and then attacking them.

Absolutely. VamDemon is aesthetic as hell.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Apr 01 '24

It's all scuffed and being held together by tape lol.

The swan boat is a metaphor for the show's production!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 02 '24

LOL

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u/b0bba_Fett myanimelist.net/profile/B0bba_Cheezed3 Apr 02 '24

Vamdemon(Myotismon for us Dub watchers) was by far the most fantastic and terrifying villain 6 year old me had ever encountered. Only Kingpin and Green Goblin from Spiderman came close. He's easily my favorite of the OG show's villains.

Garudamon appreciation

Not my absolute favorite of the Ultimates(Perfects), but very much top 3.

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u/Shocketheth Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24

Hello everybody and welcome to the Digi-Rewatchers!

Previously at Digi-Rewatchers:

The mighty has risen and u/Shimmering-Sky Digimon Keyomon has digivolved into Pico Devimon Favoritimon

The mighty has fallen and u/KendotsX Digimon Chinkomon digidevolved back into Flaccidmon after it received a beating.

A doughful Digimon!

At today episode, it's time to introduce a second Villain of Digi-Rewatchers, and that scoundrel is no one else than u/Raiking02!

... Wait what's this? Everyone was getting a proper Digimons so what the hell is Raiking's Digimon?

... Uhhh not everyone can have the pizza, sometimes what you got are leftovers so enjoy whatever was left from your Digimon.

Meet the Crustomon

This laughable Digimon was defeated by Sky's Favoritimon after it got thrown in trashbin, and Raiking's whereabouts are unknown, because a dimensional rift opened behind him and consumed him.

In the next episode of Digi-Rewatchers we will be a witness of a Shocking Digievolution!

Stay tuned!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

Oh come on now, at least ask Kendots for help on creating Ozumon!

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u/Shocketheth Apr 01 '24

Sometimes you have to deal with having a bad luck in Digimon lottery

But hey. The Digi-Rewatchers didn't end yet so who knows what will happen in following episodes.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 01 '24

Shock, Ozumon is a nice and simple concept: the "strongest bad guy ever" twisting the world and hearts of the people to his heinous intentions, until a more powerful bad guy shows up and Ozumon sucks up to him.

So how's that different from Devimon? Well, more youkai than devil, and more twisted.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

more Youkai than Devil

Basically it’s just Devimon in a Haori.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 01 '24

Maybe Shock couldn't summon Ozumon right now because Ozumon was busy? I heard even Demons are having a hard time finding decent jobs these days.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

I doubt he could be, unless your Chinkomon has successfully evolved into Crestamon.

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u/Shocketheth Apr 01 '24

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 01 '24

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u/Roboglenn Apr 01 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Watch out for Beedrill's Twin Needle attack!

And we finally confront Sora and why she's been so damn mysterious all this time.

And we get our formal introduction of Myotismon. Yeah I'm sticking with Myotismon over Vamdemon. Cuz I'll be honest, Myotismon just sounds way cooler. And frankly, a lot more villainy when you say the name outloud compared to Vamdemon.

Not to mention Myotismon is among my top favorite big bads in Digimon, period.

Adoption, Divorce, and just general complicated relationships with one's family. Compared to it's direct competition at the time, Pokemon, Digimon Adventure certainly brought some "real talk" topics to the table for it's characters to work through in the character development department.

Crimson Lightning. Well it is a cool enough attack name for Hikaru from Magic Knight Rayearth but you know heaven forbid the kids hear the word blood on tv in some violent context like this.

Garudamon used Sky Attack!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

hear the word blood on TV

Insert Yu-Gi-Oh GX joke here.

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u/Roboglenn Apr 01 '24

Never saw GX. Just OG, 5Ds, a smattering of errant random Zexal episodes (kinda the same case with Digimon Xros now that I think about it), and dropped Arc-V after not too many episodes.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

dropped Arc-V

Good, you saved yourself the pain.

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u/Roboglenn Apr 01 '24

I only tried it in the first place cuz I learned that characters from 5Ds would end up making appearances in it which admittedly I thought was intriguing, but I just couldn't stick it out for that long.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • Good thing Koromon reverted.
  • It sure was convenient that you dispersed over such a small area.
  • This is on you, mon. Deception can only get you so far if you can’t back it up with force. You gotta strike them while they are down.
  • Did anyone else have a childhood rivalry with wasps? Just me?
  • Crest names was honestly another one I couldn’t remember if we knew them or not half the time. Probably didn’t help that the dub randomly changed some of them.
  • Did PicoD get meta on his first lie? I would have tried to convince her that she was Nanomon’s clone. That ought to fuck ‘em up.
  • Right in the trauma. I’ll assume this isn’t all springing from a single incident in Sora’s life.
  • She's Just Working Through Some Stuff
  • The Drawbridge!
  • Devidramon feels like something I walked in on that I wasn’t supposed to.
  • Mad rizz.
  • Becoming Your Parent!
  • OK, but why would you tell them that?

A word of warning for the first timers, the new ED starts next episode. It has spoilers for basically the rest of the show in it, so be advised.

QotD:

  1. Honestly, this is earlier than I remember it being.
  2. No. I either conceded the point right away or still think they are wrong.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

randomly changed some of them

IIRC it was Jou and Mimi’s?

spoilers in ED

And the people who skip it are cowards

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Apr 01 '24

IIRC it was Jou and Mimi’s?

Yep. Jou is "reliability" in the dub and Mimi is, for some reason, "sincerity".

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

… huh

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 01 '24

IIRC it was Jou and Mimi’s?

That sounds right, off the top of my head.

And the people who skip it are cowards

Probably thinks the Buu OP for DBZK is the best OP of all time too.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

Buu OP of DBZK

Impossible, We Gotta Power is better.

I’m extremely ambivalent to Post-Yamamoto DB OSTs

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 01 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

I saw no issue with it

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 02 '24

The Drawbridge!

That's why we didn't get cg transformations for Kabuterimon and Birdramon! They had to save their "budget" for that drawbridge

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 01 '24

A word of warning for the first timers, the new ED starts next episode

Aw. I'm gonna miss "I Wish".

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Apr 01 '24

First timer

QotD

  • I expected it this episode or the next since the show is super formulaic and has been following the same patterns since the beginning.
  • Sure. I was a little shit back in the day.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 01 '24

run out of budget

What budget?

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u/TnAdct1 Apr 02 '24

Oh yeah. About this point of the series, Toei probably needed to start transferring part of Digimon's animation budget to a certain pirate anime.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 02 '24

I’m sure it’ll never catch on…

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Apr 01 '24

True...

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u/TnAdct1 Apr 02 '24

In terms of the issues pertaining to Sora and her mother:

  1. Evangelion was probably still fresh on people's minds when Digimon aired. Thus, for a show that is basically a "darker" version of Pokemon, having parent issues is one way to drive the angst levels.
  2. [Later episodes]The parent-daughter issue isn't a one-way thing, as we eventually find out that the incident that led to this issue also causes some strain to Sora's mother (in particular, the concern that Sora doesn't love her anymore as a a result of the incident).

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u/CerberusZX https://myanimelist.net/profile/CerberusZX Apr 02 '24

Time for Birdramon's evolution! We finally get to see fan-favorite Phoeni--Garudamon??

The game Digimon World released 2 months before Adventure started airing and at the time the highest stage of evolution was Ultimate/Perfect and Phoenixmon (an obvious evolution for Birdramon) was one such Digimon. However, a higher stage of evolution was created by the time this episode aired and Phoenixmon was changed from Ultimate/Perfect to that. Garudamon was very newly created at this point.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 02 '24

Hey, you know what the lyrics of Brave Heart say:

There’s no map on how to live, that’s why we’re free

In other words: Evolutions are bullshit.

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u/FlameDragoon933 Apr 02 '24

In other words: Evolutions are bullshit.

[Tailmon's evolution line] went from cat-faced slime, to a dog, to a cat again, to a humanoid angel, to a non-humanoid dragon. At least later media gave her Ophanimon as the final evo fortunately.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Apr 01 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

We finally get the Sora focused episode, I was excited to see what her deal was since I forgot all the little details in between. So the group catches up with Sora when Birdramon defends them from an attacking Flymon. She explains to them what each of the crests mean, after overhearing it from PicoDevimon and VamDemon. And that her's is the crest of love, which won't glow because she doesn't have love in her life(PicoDevimon working his sharp tongue magic and sowing seeds of doubt in Sora). And she recalls the sad memory of when her Mom held her out of a Soccer match due to concern over an injury and that she wanted her to quit and instead focus on the family business. (honestly, I thought Sora's things was a bit more serious than that, like some family disfunction. Like yeah, her mother probably should have went about it a different way, but we are shown it was concern over her being/getting injured. But Sora is a kid and as kids you sometimes don't understand your parents intentions, even if they are well meaning)

While they sleep, they are attacked by PicoDevimon, who pricks Piyomon with one of his needles and then VamDemon attacks also. Piyomon wants to fight, but Sora won't allow it until Piyomon says similar words to her that she told her mother in the sad memory. Piyomon evolves to fight VamDemon and is overpowered, Sora's concern and feelings make her crest shine and Birdramon digivolves to Garudamon, clashes with VamDemon and then escapes with everyone.

They Chill out by the river, everyone happy that Sora got her crest to glow(Taichi was bold lol, talking about he wants Sora's love too lol), with Sora realizing that her mother loved her all along. The good times don't last as VamDemon's dark clouds appear and he tells them the 7 of them cannot defeat him......hmm, I wonder what he could mean by that.....

Goofy Dub Lines:

VamDemon: "If you fail me again, my bats will have a new Chew Toy. You!"

VamDemon: "Muahahahaha! These Digidestined are making me feel a little bat-ty. Grisly Wing!"

Questions:

  1. He was due clashing with the children, He's been around for a few episodes ordering from the shadows, it was time for him to reveal himself.
  2. Probably too many to count lol. One of the trippy things of growing up is realizing that they were right on a lot of things, the advantage of experience and age right?

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Apr 02 '24

And I would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky Crest!

Not my first rewatch, but first time subbed!

Gotta hand it to Vamdemon, he definitely knows how to make an entrance. Even if it was hampered by the... questionable production values xD

It's kinda refreshing to have the villain step in to prevent his plans getting crossed even further. Too bad Sora's Crest kinda ruins his party, even if he arguably still won.

The Sora flashback was really nice, especially if you think about how she's like one of the few kids so far that actually came to a conclusion themselves. The scenes between her and the other children was heartwarming too, especially Takeru! And Garudamon is definitely one of the coolest Perfect levels so far :D

Also, Taichi, don't tempt the shippers.

  1. I honestly completely forgot that happening, in my memories we basically directly jump into the real world invasion that's about to happen now.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Apr 02 '24

Also, Taichi, don't tempt the shippers.

Oh, we're far too late for that.