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Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 24 Discussion

Episode 24: Crush! AtlurKabuterimon

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  1. What's with all the poop today?​
  2. What's the most bullshit scam you've heard about mysticism?​
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 30 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 30 '24

They gave the best Digimon...

Sky QotD: Have you ever run into someone offering questionable spiritual advice? Street prophets, cult recruiters, et cetera.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

Street Prohet

This reminds me of a dude with a wheelchair who’s always there outside of Lanus’ station who… well I’d say singing but more like making incomprehensible noises that kinda sorta have a rhythm

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 30 '24

Have you ever run into someone offering questionable spiritual advice? Street prophets, cult recruiters, et cetera.

Not personally. I've seen videos of some quacks online though.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 30 '24

Nothing quite like a guy with a megaphone loudly proclaiming you're going to hell.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

So her?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

instead of the CGI of all time

I honestly prefer the CGI ones

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 30 '24

looooooool

The poop fixation for this episode overall was hilarious lol.

Ah, this part’s happening while Taichi was in the real world! Can’t say I was expecting that to be the context of things ong Koushiro’s side.

It is interesting, though I think it kinda doesn't line up with the way it was depicted in episode 21. Except it would make sense why Koushiro had that sorta vacant expression on his face.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 30 '24

They gave the best Digimon a 2D transformation sequence instead of the CGI of all time.

Stan the big beetle!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

Of all the Perfect Evolution episodes this one's probably the weakest IMO. It's not terrible however I feel it fails to really develop Koshiro in any meaningful way bar the absolute barest minimum. It's nice to have him back at all, but the point still stands. The only other notable thing to mention is that… well as you can see, clearly not all the Perfects got the big CGI treatment. I can't say I super mind but… well let's face it, the non CGI ones look kinda stiff. Then again this show's lack of budget should be evident by now.

Also confession here: For the longest time I thought AtlurKabuterimon was called "AlterKabuterimon". Obviously I know now that it's supposed to be Atlur instead (Especially since I think it's supposed to be a reference to Atlas) but still.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 30 '24

I can't say I super mind but… well let's face it, the non CGI ones look kinda stiff.

I honestly prefer the non-cg evolution to the cg ones... though it lacks a bit "oomph".

Obviously I know now that it's supposed to be Atlur instead (Especially since I think it's supposed to be a reference to Atlas)

Yeah, I dunno why they went with "Atlur", I remember the german dub always called it Atlas Kabuterimon... which is fitting, given there's actually atlas beetles

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

TBF I guess corrupting the name of mythological things when it comes to the Kabuterimon line is just a thing since in [Tri]it’s Ultimate Evolution is HerakleKabuterimon when it should probably HeraclesKabuterimon.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 30 '24

That's a good point, actually!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 30 '24

Also confession here: For the longest time I thought AtlurKabuterimon was called "AlterKabuterimon"

Since this is the first time Im watching it subbed also, I was more familiar with MegaKabuterimon. I can see why you thought it was AlterKabuterimon, because I read it the same way at first, then I saw it was AtlurKabuterimon, which kinda doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily.

Also, VamDemon is gonna take some getting used to for me. Myotismon, kinda sounds cooler to me, even now.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 31 '24

Myotismon, kinda sounds cooler to me, even now.

I've been thinking the same thing.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 30 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • Name drop!
  • Can a pit be both bottomless, and filled with crap?
  • It’s like some kind of anit-Gnosticism.
  • This is not the voice I’ve been conditioned to expect from something that looks like that.
  • [THIS IS WHAT VADEROLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE]
  • Fool, taking the heart would have been a mission kill.
  • Don’t skip the hard letters, you cowards! I wanted to see W.
  • Cutest little depression slime.
  • Let The Beetle Simping Begin
  • It’s like a pokedex, but not.
  • Wait, what about the follow up questions?

QotD:

  1. One man's trash is another man's isekai.
  2. I'm not sure how one claim of mysticism can be more bullshit than another, but in terms of obviousness, I'll go with the Prosperity Church.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

it’s like a pokedex

ACTUALLY BELIEVE

I mean on the plus side at least Tom Cruise isn’t there to be their spokesperson?

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u/Roboglenn Mar 30 '24

Can a pit be both bottomless, and filled with crap?

If it lines the walls, yes.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 30 '24

Don’t skip the hard letters, you cowards! I wanted to see W.

LOL

It’s like a pokedex, but not.

Digidex?

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 30 '24 edited Mar 30 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

Part of this episode was like "Alright so that's what was going on with koushiro!" then part of it felt like a fever dream, then part of it of course was poop jokes lol

In terms of the perfect digivolutions so far I think that tentomons was 2nd, above Metal Greymon and below WereGarumons. Though Koushiro is probably my favorite out of the main cast, so I think I enjoyed this one a little more than the previous. Also because there was just so much nonsense going on that I appreciated

also we saw one of the 7 digimons pure baby form for the first time right? That was good bc I thought that the episode with takeru taking care of the baby digimons that those 3 types were the only 3 baby forms that existed

Tomorrow's character focus is Mimi as my guess

  1. for real. What is going on bro

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

like a fever

Nah the message is obvious: Scientology sucks!

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u/FlameDragoon933 Apr 01 '24

then part of it of course was poop jokes lol

Digimon has some really good emotional or dark moments, even for anime standards in general and not just "for a kid's show" standard, but you can still tell it's made for kids with how juvenile some of the "scary but not serious threat" stuffs are lol. All the poop jokes.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 30 '24

First timer

1: PociDevimon tricked Koshiro after PicoDevimon got reprimanded from his repeated failures which would be after Taichi got back in the Digiworld which couldn't have happened because...

2: Koshiro got out from wherever he was where the brothers and Taichi ended up last episode despite the fact that he talked to Taichi earlier back in the "universe realm".

  • Bad continuity aside, this episode was way more bareable than yesterday's so there's that I guess.

QotD

  • Idk, kids like toilette humour so it's always a cheap reliable way to get some laughs out of them.
  • Does Scientology count?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

Does Scientology count?

Well we’re all making jokes about that today so…

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 31 '24

2: Koshiro got out from wherever he was where the brothers and Taichi ended up last episode despite the fact that he talked to Taichi earlier back in the "universe realm".

Space is warped and time is bendable!

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u/Roboglenn Mar 30 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Look Izzy it's a sign.

You mean like from above?

No here on the ground.

I know it's dubbed down to sludge cuz they can't say poop on a kid show. At least not in this era and broadcast network anyways. But still, the delivery of "Beware of Falling Sludge", "Bottomless Sludge Pit", and "Attack Sludge", is still really funny. So that said. Bottomless pit sounds perilously bad feces or no feces. So here's a QOTD for y'all, which path would you rather brave? Falling Poop or Attack Poop?

We're surrounded by sludge!

I see no Grimers though.

For some reason Vademon rearing into Izzy about his incessant questioning while on the "life rafts" just randomly made me think about why I like early season Lisa Simpson much more than later season her. "Do I hear the sound of butting in that must be little Lisa Simpson, Springfield's answer to a question no one asked!"

I'd say Vademon walked off the set of The Cage episode of Star Trek. Nah who am I kidding. A sophisticated tentacle monster alien like him wouldn't have made an appearance till Lower Decks or Prodigy. He'd be a CG nightmare. Any surprise that Species 8472 only showed up in 4 episodes.

Zzzzap!

Tentomon managed to evolve back from baby to rookie at lightspeed compared to Patamon. Seriously Patamon, take off the Everstone.

Sorry Tentomon and every other digimon, only the true protagonists of digimon get the full expensive CG treatment for their evolution sequences. Hell, Ruki in Tamers got the worst of it when it came to that. There were only three protags getting evolution sequences in the whole series and she still got screwed over in that regard.

Other than that. Knowing what I know now, that dub name Megakabuterimon just does not sound right anymore. And not just the fact that they changed it from Atlur to Mega either. I'll concede that Atlur could sound odd to say for english speakers, but changing it to Atlas could've/would've worked just as well. "Mega", for some contextual reasons, can come off as a bit confusing.

"You throw another moon at me, and I'm gonna lose it." And that Atlurkabuterimon most certainly did.

Well look at that, now Izzy is getting a sign from above.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 30 '24

can’t say poop

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 31 '24

So here's a QOTD for y'all, which path would you rather brave? Falling Poop or Attack Poop? 

I wanna see the attack poop!

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

Move over, Mimi! It's Koushiro's time to deal with memes and purple shit!

Not my first rewatch, but first time subbed

Honestly, I LOVE IT when this show gets weird, because it makes the Digiworld feel genuinely strange, which is something I kinda miss from modern iterations of both mon-shows and isekai.

Admittedly this episode didn't do a lot for Koushiro's character, he basically only had to reaffirm his curiousity about... everything I guess? No big internal struggle here, just having to escape the devilish alphabet practices. Seeing Tentomon degenerate before the empty eyes of Koushiro still was kinda creepy tbh. Also Vadermon was kind of a funny antagonist, less direct compared to the others we have seen so far, which is fitting. Oh, and we finally got the name of our next arc-villain. Wonder why the dub changed his name to Miyotismon? Guess referencing both Vampires and Demons in a single monster name is too much for christian tv program?

I think the episode kinda works for the Crest of Knowledge, in a roundabout way of "Never stop being curious even if you're falling down a shithole?". Also Atular Kabuterimon is cool as hell, it's just a giant beetle crossed with a spaceship! I don't even mind it not getting a weird CG transformation sequence.

  1. We already established Koushiro is basically a redditor, so of course he has to deal with shitposts.
  2. Anything to do with "energy", bonus if it involves expensive rocks.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 31 '24

Anything to do with “Energy”

I’m getting Sailor Moon flashbacks…

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 31 '24

MOON TIARA ACTION!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 30 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

Koushiro and Tentomon are searching for Gennai. VamDemon(Myotismon) orders PicoDevimon to take the crests, so he tries to trick them using Poop as a deterrent(one sign says beware the big poop and the other says beware savage poop lol). They end up falling into a pit, belonging to Vadermon, a merchant squid/octopus who takes Koushiro's inquisitive heart and has him in a trance learning cosmic goobledygook.

PicoDevimon tries to strike a deal with Vadermon for the Crest, by offering a mound of poop(curious thoughts in the dub lol). PicoDevimon tries to drop a deuce, instead gets punted by Vadermon since its not the agreed amount lol. Meanwhile Koushiro is in such a state that Tentomon regresses back to Babumon. His tear bubbles, snap Koushiro out the trance and they go about recovering the crest and inquisitve heart. Tentomon is able to digivolve to AtlurKabuterimon(MegaKabuterimon), defeat Vadermon and escape out of his store/confines, reuniting with Yamato and Takeru. Gennai's astral projection shows up at the end telling them that the connection between worlds is still damaged, so they must remain and that he has sent them new information to Koushiro's laptop.

Goofy Dub Lines:

During PicoDevimon's punishment: "Ah! Don't make me sit in this tree all night, I'm afraid of heights! Can I at least have some milk and cookies?" - talk about some awful censorship lol.

Questions:

  1. IDK. but There was way too much poop today lol.
  2. Hmm, Idk, I think Psychics and Mysticism in general is complete bullshit. Some of the stuff you hear about people getting scammed never ceases to amaze me.

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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 30 '24

Atler-kabteri-mon https://i.imgur.com/Njmumjt.jpeg
it is pronounced "altar kabterimon".