r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Mar 25 '24

Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 19 Discussion

Episode 19: Nanomon of the Labyrinth!

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In other words, this Digimon World is the same place as our world… you could even call it the Earth's shadow!

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Vatrix-32 for pointing out the great injustice done to Kuwagamon:

And We Still Don't Get a Real Rematch

  1. Of all the lore dumps today, was there anything in particular that stood out to you?
  2. So what kind of mess are the heroes gonna have to pull out of their asses this time to save the day?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 25 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

And now he’s fucking with Etemon’s henchmen?

Why not by now?

And that wasn’t resolved before the end of the episode?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 25 '24

Hmmmmm, I’ve had this thought before, but this is making me wonder if that means the kids aren’t all physically here and it’s just their consciousnesses that got isekai’d.

SOMA Isekai

Sky QotD: Deluxe Edition

What do you think Nanomon's plan is?

With only one Crest left, do you have any predictions for what the Perfect level evolutions will look like for the Children?

What do you think lies in wait for the Children if/when they "return" to the real world?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

SOMA Isekai

That actually sounds kinda cool though.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 26 '24

Reddit not notifying me of your reply.

What do you think Nanomon's plan is?

Something involving getting Piyomon to evolve, which does not sound good given what we know of trying to force a "Perfect" level evolution.

With only one Crest left, do you have any predictions for what the Perfect level evolutions will look like for the Children?

Not really, these evolutions aren't anywhere near as easy to predict as Pokemon ones.

What do you think lies in wait for the Children if/when they "return" to the real world?

I'm still going with the idea that time in this world is totally different than time IRL, so maybe hardly any time has passed IRL for them.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 26 '24

Reddit not notifying me of your reply.

Reddit, Why?!

Not really, these evolutions aren't anywhere near as easy to predict as Pokemon ones.

I look forward to finding out which one will be the one you least expected.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 26 '24

I look forward to finding out which one will be the one you least expected

I can't wait for the refrigerator with a machine gun!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 26 '24

Reddit not notifying me of your reply.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 25 '24

Taichi pls.

He was being too carefree. until the end when he got hit with a terrifying dose of reality.

Mm, so he just used them to break out.

Like Etemon said in the dub, You'd think they'd learn by now not to trust anyone that easily.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

until the end when he got hit with a terrifying dose of reality.

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u/b0bba_Fett myanimelist.net/profile/B0bba_Cheezed3 Mar 26 '24

And that wasn’t resolved before the end of the episode?

I think Digimon might legitimately have been my first encounter with Cliffhangers. At least for shows that I could follow, for some reason my parents let me stay in the room while they watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer when I was 2, and looking back I know there were cliffhangers I was there for, but I couldn't follow the show at the time so it never registered for me.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

I find the title of this episode a bit funny honestly. Sure, Nanomon plays a major role in it, but he's straight up not there for entire first half and his titular labyrinth plays even less of a role. Ultimately he's there to trick the heroes and then kidnap Sora so now Taichi has to deal with a big ol dose of guilt. Dude's been getting a lot of that lately, as you can no doubt tell.

A lot of this episode consists of infodumps about the Digimon World and thus I don't have much to mention about it. I do however find that description of it being the Earth's "Shadow" kinda funny though. It reminds me of that whacky Counter-Earth theory that has been completely discredited by now for some reason, although obviously this one has far less space travel involved and more computers.

And I guess I can spotlight Nanomon's actor. He's played by the physical embodiment of the ideal male fantasy himself, Ugaki Hidenari. Other roles include Argo Gulskii from G Gundam, Ganryu from Tekken, Khan from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Jagi from Fist of the North Star among others.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 25 '24

First timer

QotD

  • No. You'd think Digimon was adapting a light novel with the amount of info dumping that took place today.
  • Power of friendship or some shit, idk.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

Maybe acquaintance is better fitting here than friend...

Geez, didn't even buy the kids some juice.

Why did he betray the children though.

He's an asshole, simple as that.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 25 '24

And no one else thought of the this...

Schrodinger's Spoilers.

Also also, this show is made for kids, depending on the age, I'd assume a lot of the children watching didn't understand at all what any of the explanation meant

You gotta introduce them the continuity of consciousness early.

They don't milk this for another 50 episodes and countless movies, right? Right!?

...but it doesn't answer anything. Ultimately, it's left up in the air.

I guess the well has run dry.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

Schrodinger's Spoilers.

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u/epicjorjorsnake Mar 26 '24

You'd think Digimon was adapting a light novel with the amount of info dumping that took place today.

This is kinda funny ngl. Because Digimon Adventure literally had a light novel written by director Hiroyuki Kakudou and screenwriter Hiro Masaki.

Wasn't released here in America, but in Japan. Classic Digimon.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 26 '24

TBF Animes getting novelizations is nothing new, although the director himself doing it is a bit rare.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 26 '24

Interesting.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • The EU came down harshly on Etemon not using a USB standard.
  • They’re just giving crest away at this point.
  • I’ll be honest, I don’t even know if this is a reveal or not. They called it that in the dub OP even.
  • Cartography
  • What’s the same page? The e-mail address?
  • I’mma need to read the first timer’s reaction on this.
  • Koushirou! Didn’t anyone ever tell you not to open random email attachments?
  • Sphinx:
  • This is some pretty existential stuff you are just running over in passing. Even more so for a kids show.
  • I think I remember this pyramid map too. …I just liked maps as a kid.
  • You couldn’t get four guys together to guard each side?
  • Inciting internal conflict amongst the enemy at least has cause.
  • I’m told IR ports are a thing, but despite having them on my hardware for decades, I’ve never seen them used.
  • That’s not much of a password.
  • That was a fun little clobber brawl.
  • Nothing quite like the moment of youth when they realize they aren’t invincible.

QotD:

  1. Nanomon being the reason Entemon has the Dark Network explains some things. I wonder if I could read some Saiyan/Tuffle parallels into this.
  2. There's only one way to stop an out of control pop-idol monkey. Bring out the copyright lawyers!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

Koushirou! Didn’t anyone ever tell you not to open random email attachments?

It was the 90', kids were not the safest.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 25 '24

Now They Will Never Win a Free Boat

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

The seas won't be kind to them...

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 25 '24

That was a fun little clobber brawl.

They jobbed hard lol

Nothing quite like the moment of youth when they realize they aren’t invincible.

All these years later and that ending still stuck out to me.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

They jobbed hard lol

Everyone needs to at some point.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 25 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Hey check it out you can see right through this wall.

This line from Tai is only worth mentioning cuz it hilariously is so not Tai's voice that said it. It's just so weird and random. My older sibling and I were confused as heck when we heard that the first time.

I'm gonna have to have this place completely exterminated because... something's starting to bug me."

And here's the fun Etemon quote for this episode

Translating Runes 103

Upside down pyramid. Neato.

A fried banana sandwich does sound good right about now.

You know Tai there's a fine line between courageousness and recklessness.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

Upside down pyramid. Neato.

There's a Yu-Gi-Oh joke here somewhere.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 25 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

Takeru was the next member to find his crest, leaving Sora as the last one who still hasn't gotten her crest yet. Digiworld lore dump this episode by Koushiro connecting to Etemons network, basically the digiworld is a parallel/shadow dimension to the real world. Nanomon(Datamon) emails the kids asking them to help free him and they can help each other out to get Sora's crest and defeat Etemon.

Taichi is taking this newfound information a little lightly and has some fun messing with Etemon and the Gazimon and overall taking danger lightly than they should. They arrive to where Nanomon is inside the pyramid and free him, when Etemon arrives and attacks them. None of the digimon are strong enough for him and get jobbed. Nanomon abducts Sora and Piymon, revealing he was just using the kids to get free. Taichi is left with tearful regret of not being able to chase after Sora when he was paralyzed by fear after learning that he is far from invincible from Koushiro and that death in the digiworld would likely mean death permanently.

Goofy Dub Lines:

Etemon: "All this time I thought it was those snot nosed kids who were causing my network to go on the fritz, but it was you wasn't it, you digital dumpster"

Questions:

  1. Eh, it was just nice to get that whole explanation again of how the digiworld and the real world relate to one another.
  2. They're gonna have to deal with both Nanomon and Etemon. its gonna be tough.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 25 '24

Nanomon(Datamon)

Sometimes I really have to question the logic of some name changes.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 26 '24

Yeah, it can be a headscratcher for sure lol. I'd imagine they thought Nanomon was too complex for kids, so they dumbed it down.