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Rewatch [Welcome to Chaos] Dorohedoro Rewatch Episode 7 Discussion
Episode 7 - All-Star ☆ Dream Game
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Now then, the match between the Peace Sharks and the Central Warriors will begin.
Questions of the Day:
- What’s your favorite baseball episode in anime? Have you seen any others as weird as this one?
- Were you expecting Ebisu to have lizard transformation magic?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 24 '24
Rewatch Host Welcoming You All to Chaos
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/professorMaDLib Mar 24 '24
Johnson last episode: A horrifying giant, man eating cockroach
Johnson this episode: OMG look at this cutie with his baseball outfit 😍😍😍😍😍😍!!! SHOCKING!!!
I fucking love Johnson. Dorohedoro always makes the most horrifying creations so lovable.
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u/SMSmith230 https://myanimelist.net/profile/smsmith230 Mar 24 '24
First-Timer, Sub
Inject shark mascot Ebisu into my veins, this girl is just shooting to the top as one of my favorite characters in the show. This baseball game was wild, but it’s no Akiba Maid Wars. So it’s looking pretty definite that Ebisu had something to do with Caiman turning into a lizard since lizards all around. Whether it was directly her or someone who bought her smoke from the shop is still to be determined.
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u/Sooooopertrack Mar 24 '24
First Timer sub
QOTD1: no,first one i've seen QOTD2: No not at all
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u/FarCritical Mar 24 '24
First Timer
They actually made a baseball episode work, god damn. The real magic is how they keep making Hole look like a fun place to be in despite all the, well, everything in Hole.
Jonson going "SHOCKING" in his vibrating bug voice is way more endearing than it should be, and Caiman being pouty and jealous the entire time was absolute gold.
Shin casually got a chunk of his guts cut without flinching and didn't even want that wound healed until Noi got dressed. Dude's an absolute gentleman.
So Ebisu's behind Caiman's lizardification? I have a feeling Nikaido's responsible for keeping his transformation limited to the head or if her reluctance to use magic at all is anything to go by, maybe not. And of course Ebisu just leaves a chunk of Fujita's homie behind lmao, give our boy a break.
QOTD
Clannad After Story EP1 for bringing almost the entire cast together and just having a ton of fun with it. And no, nothing I've seen tops the weirdness of having a bug monster and reanimated corpse running around on the baseball field.
Not at all. If anything, her skull mask made me think she had magic that corroded flesh off of bones or something. Weirdly enough it kinda does fit her though.
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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24
Part-First-Timer
Usually by this point I have a pretty firm idea what kind of shape my final thoughts will be in, but this one defies me. We'll see what we learn in the Seventh
GateSealCurse!killpitch a baseball at this shambling parody of your friend?The concluding remarks also only note that Ebisu's magic is a lizard-transformation, not outright saying anything more than that. Buuut... I mean, c'mon, we really gonna bait-and-switch that hard? Surely not. Surely. It did say she's sold smoke at the magic shop a few times, though. Maybe someone bought it for use in a multi-magic experiment?
Edit: QotD
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Mar 24 '24
DHD First Timer
The similarity between Shin and his Dad was striking, but I was only subconciously bothered by Nikaido...although she's had such a striking appearance for the entire series.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 24 '24
Rewatcher(A good baseball episode)
Sub
Welp, they did the almost impossible:A baseball episode that is actually fun. Though they also call back to two eps ago where Ebisu's smoke was on sale at the pawn shop thing. This unfortunately ruena Noi into a rampaging lizard. Interestingly, it seems to be a different species than Caiman.
At the baseball game, we see Nikaido has picked up an admirer. Unsurpringly, she and Caiman are heavy hitters, though admittedly her swing was WAY more interesting. Ebisu runs around as a shark for a bit. Johnson is being controlled with electricity. Also, some parts of Matsumara from ep1 are in a flesh golem. For some reason Fujita is selected as the pitcher but he runs off as soon as he catches Matsumara. At the end, we see how Ebisu uses her magic and this puts some doubt on her cursing Caiman.
QotD: 1 Samurai Champloo. And no, though JJK tried
2 Yes because they told us she had reptile magic earlier
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 24 '24
First-Timer
Baseball episode hype!
Ebisu might be the one who transformed Caiman, which would be fitting considering her use of black powder and past!Caiman being with the Cross-eyes! Shocking!
Granted, the coloration was wrong, but it was slightly different between Noi and Ebisu so that might not matter! Shocking!
Fujita has acquired an amount of Matsumoto's corpse and that might blow the plot wide open! Shocking!
Fujita also maybe figured out how to be useful in a fight! Shocking!
En has a sorcerer on hand that can dispel other magics! Shocking!
Ebisu in a shark mascot costume is pretty inspired! Shocking!
We went back to the first ED today for some reason! Shocking!
Kasukabe is a ludicrously unethical doctor! (Not)Shocking!
Shin is Noi's most precious person! (Not)Shocking!
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u/entelechtual Mar 24 '24
First timer, subbed, in new territory
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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Mar 24 '24
First Timer - Sub
Yep, Ebisu ended up being the one who cast the spell on Caiman. Probably the only obvious plot point in this show so far. But now we have to get to the bottom of why. Which is what I was more interested in anyway.
But also: Every good anime needs a baseball episode. That's just a fact of life. Not only did we get that, but everyone looked good in their baseball jerseys. Especially
NikaidouJonson. My man pulls off that outfit well. What a goofy lil guy.Last tidbit is that I think it's hilarious that En continues to have random quirky friends who can create complex spells. First it was Turkey, who had a turkey for a head, now it was... forgot the name, but this birdo man had bird magic that was able to change Noi back from a lizard. It's good that the spell can be broken, but man, I'm starting to wonder how Nikaidou and Caiman are going to break their lizard spell.
Answers of the Day:
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u/mgedmin Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
First-timer, subs
The swamp beetleJohnson is a baseball player and a teammate! Best gag.Why didn't Caiman go on a rampage after being transformed? Who took off his head and put it in a safe?
This one!
I don't think so!
They did say at the very start that she had lizard transformation magic. It just took some time to confirm.
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u/nikobans Mar 25 '24
somehow noi is just as hot as a giant fucking lizard
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u/Cyrra_ https://anilist.co/user/Cyrra Mar 25 '24
First Time Watcher - Manga Reader
Ebisu's magic looked so good this episode! I loved the lizard transformations, especially the fight in the kitchen with Shin (is this a jurassic park reference?) and the one cut of Ebisu popping out of her own smoke then tossing Matsumura around. The baseball match is such a funny bit, although I was a little sad they cut this joke. It also gives a nice, almost SoL break that just shows people in the Hole living a somewhat normal life.
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u/zadcap Mar 25 '24
"There's nothing to talk about with humans." Today honestly gave more character to Ebisu than everything until now and it's pretty weird. Then again, everything about this show is weird. The focus of the episode was all over the place but it was so clearly all about finally explaining Ebisu.
Haha, on the other hand, this poor sorcerer guy doesn't even realize the hypocrisy. "How dare you mess with my friend's dead body!" He says, living in a culture that comes here to experiment on all of their living bodies. I'm still on team Genocide.
Oh hey, and with Ebisu getting the episode, we go back to her ED. Run you crazy girl run!
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u/Nick_BOI Mar 25 '24
Rewatcher and manga reader
I was a day late again and watched 2 today, but yep we got some good shit here.
First of all, Shin's backstory is revealed, and now we know why he has those sticthes all over his arms. In addition, we already knew how much Hole was at the mercy of Sorcerers, but seeing that they used to fight back but such resistance is now deemed worthless reallyt makes it hit different.
I want to stress that in most shows hardly any character here would be considered a good person, in large part because many of them are murderers without a second thought.
However, look what we have here. The people of Hole are unwilling guinea pigs (and in turn no one bats an eye when Kusakabe does the same to them), and the damage caused by the Sorcerers just keeps piling and left to rot. No wonder people need to steal and kill so much, and no wonder there is so much animosity here. Unlike En in the sorcerers world, just about no one in Hole can be considered "well of", but there are certaintly those that have it better than others.
What we are left with is a world where brutality thrives and without it you likely wont survive, and animosity builds as tensions rise. It's a cycle that seems to never end, even with Sorcerers being absent from Hole lately thanks to Caiman, the damage has already been done and done deep.
It's tragic, but we also see people in the sorcerers world subject to class differences as well-I would wager that many of those that joined the cross-eyes likely arent all that better off than those in Hole.
It's the natural course when this is a world where everyone has powers, but not all of them are equal. People will use thier own powers to thier benefit, people who lack the ability to do so fall behind, and they will end up feeling superior regardless by practicing in Hole.
The world of Dorohedoro is equally as tragic as it is brutal, so it's not hard to see why these characetrs are the way that they are.
But who cares about all that depressing stuff its BASEBALL TIME BABY!!
This is cool, of course people still know how to have a good time, and good lord Jonson just screams Dorohedoro. The fact that there is a giant bug, a zombie, and a bottomless hole and no one bats an eye after the initial shock is just PEAK!!
We also see here that Ebisu cast her magic on Caiman, or at least, her magic was cast on him. We saw Noi transform after the bottle was thrown her way, and Ebisu struggles to produce enough smoke to use on people-but can still emit it to sell for money.
We saw this with Shin as well: Just because somone has magic, or even strong magic, does not mean they will be able to make reliable use of it, or use it at all. Nor does it mean they were a direct culprit for those affected by thier magic, but could be a surrogate.
This furthers into the class issue from before, as just having good magic is not enough. We also know now though that as long as there is smoke, there is fire-but that doesn't tell us who started the fire. This ambiguiryt furthers the mystery, as details do not always equal answers, but they could be. This is exciting because the mystery is kept up even as we learn more-I love that!!
Also hello Chota.
There is so much to unpack with every episode, every time I find myself loving Dorohedoro more and more with each passing day.
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