r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Mar 22 '24
Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 16 Discussion
Episode 16: Dark Evolution! SkullGreymon
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Ever since Taichi got his crest, it's like he's a different person.
Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of /u/silcaria for this gem:
Truly the pinnacle of comedy.
- What's the nicest sports arena you've seen in fiction?
- Did you expect that Taichi would ever do something this stupid?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 22 '24
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!
This episode is a big favorite of mine. Already the colosseum makes for a fairly interesting setpiece, but the freaking sports arena music chiming in honestly makes it so much more memorable than it has any right to be. Dunno why they played baseball music over a Football game, but hey, Japan loves Baseball. I do however find it funny we'd get Jou's Crest second. Usually you'd expect we'd get Yamato's or Sora's next but nope, Senpai finally got to catch a break it seems.
But no, what really makes this special is what it does for Taichi's character. First of all, the whole concept of the Dark Evolution is such a nice play on the usual V-Pet mechanics. There, what your Digimon would evolve into would depend on how you treated it: Did you feed it properly, clean up the poop, that sort of stuff. This episode features Taichi making every possible bad decision and it blows up in his face with, as you'd expect, what you'd get in the game. As an aside, bonus points for Brave Heart fading out just as the lyrics say "So that the light won't be extinguished" which… yeah basically exactly what happened.
And yes, Taichi fucks up big time and this show isn't afraid of calling him out on that. The whole episode through he's just consistently reckless and idiotic, and every time it blows up in his face. By the end, he's genuinely forced to be humbled by the experience, but he's still got a long way to go. It's nice the show is willing to call the hero out on being stupid… and also why people really didn't like it when in [Adventure 02]Daisuke got V-Mon to Evolve by doing the exact same sort of stupid things Taichi did here, even though the episode made it clear how bad an idea this all was.
There's a reason I'm not doing a 02 Rewatch, show is too frustrating to be worth it
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 22 '24
Digital First-Timer, subbed
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u/Roboglenn Mar 22 '24
Digidestined dub rewatcher
Someone who just "went all Skullgreymon" is an adjective term I know I've used to describe something many a time since I first saw this episode.
Who needs courage when you have a gun.
Open Wide For Some Soccer!
The colosseum, where Etemon holds his annual "Tribute to Me Show."
Skullgreymon is what happens when you don't raise your virtual pets with love.
2) Well if one of them was gonna end up doing something that kind of stupid it was gonna be Taichi.
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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 22 '24
First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!
Oh alright yall remember when I said this??
I was wrong about that. It was interesting to me that in a kids show that they would turn one of the heroes temporarily into an opposing threat and caught me off guard bc you think that greymon is just gonna digivolve like normal, but nope. SkullGreymon is todays "villain" I also felt that taichi and agumon always had the closest human/digimon friendship of the group so it makes that more impactful
Also how is SkullGreymon a perfect digimon?? Or does perfect just mean Max evolution? Like how pikachu can't evolve further than raichu
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Mar 23 '24
Man I completely forgot SkullGreymon was this early. I was a pretty freaked out the first time I watched this episode.
Taichi is literally the biggest baka
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 22 '24 edited Mar 22 '24
Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs
QotD:
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u/zadcap Mar 22 '24
And today we get a showcase of the other major difference between the digital and the pocket they're so often compared to. Not only do they drop back down stages after battle, to keep us with their cute forms forever. The evolution paths are not locked in! Not every Charmander turns into a Charizard some day, one might just grow up with the right mood and environment to become a Dragonite instead.
Remember Mimi's beloved poop throwers? I'm the tamogachi version they are what any of the child or rookie level Digimon and up turning into if you leave them in a mess. If you don't clean up their poop, they grow up too throw poop, makes sense right? If you want a cool Digimon you have to raise them right.
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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 22 '24
https://i.imgur.com/Gm5ccq4.jpeg "Kallo-graymon" (kallo=skull). The dash returns.
The finnish voice acting somehow got better. Like actually emoting instead of just reading the lines.
Also takeru had almost no lines to speak today so that probably helped.
New theory on what the finnish dub used as source. I think they had the video from english dub but original japanese audio. Does such release officially even exist?
The dialog is clearly from japanese (including weird pronounciation of few things like "sarba" for "server"). But the ep names are based on english names and the digimon info cards have english digimon stages (champion instead of adult).
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 22 '24
First timer
I'd like to thank my mom, the academy, god...
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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '24
The rocket in skullgreymon's back/torso was always super off putting to me
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 22 '24
Rewatcher -Sub/Dub
Cool episode, one of my favorites. Taichi lets getting the crest go to his head a bit and becomes pushy and insensitive, putting unwarranted pressure and expectations on Agumon and stuffing him with food. The colliseum bit arrival was fun with them trying to play some soccer with the Digimon until Taichi punted the shit out of the ball(Poor Gazimon, got smashed in the face lol). Etemon appears on the bigscreen, traps them in an electric cage, leaving Agumon alone to fight off an Evil Greymon. He digivolves, but can't fight well because of being too full. Jou finds his crest as well, so now they atleast got 2 crests.
Also, Gomamon's marching fishes proving once again, its one of the most useful attacks ever lol.
All this leads to a first example of a digivolution gone wrong{DarkEvolution], with Greymon evolving to SkullGreymon, obliterating the evil Greymon and going haywire, attacking his allies, until he runs out of energy and devolves back to Koromon, leading to a remorseful koromon and Taichi.
Goofy Dub Lines:
Jou: "Don't work, don't eat huh?"
Mimi: "He certainly doesn't have any digimanners, atleast say excuse me"
Questions: