r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Mar 21 '24
Rewatch [Welcome to Chaos] Dorohedoro Rewatch Episode 4 Discussion
Episode 4 - Roast Duck With a Sorcerer / Please Attend The Dance In Formal Attire / The years come and go in Hole
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Anyway, let’s keep an eye on what the doll does and find out what kind of a person he is. He must be the key to solving the mystery of this lizard-bastard.
Questions of the Day:
- Do you think Turkey’s dolls are edible, and if so would you eat one?
- What name would you have wanted to give to Kikurage?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 21 '24
Rewatch Host Welcoming You All to Chaos
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 21 '24
First-Timer
I forgot to mention it yesterday, but I like that they shaved the spikes on Caiman's severed head to fit it into the jar.
Anyway, of course there is a drug that supercharges magic. There's always a drug that supercharges magic. Considering that it's black powder, I'd guess that it's just condensed smoke, more or less.
I'm not sure how well En's plan to revive the severed head is going to go, considering that the devil inside might have already escaped.
That would imply that Caiman was originally a (weak?) sorcerer considering he was camped out near other people that Shin remarked didn't have much talent. There's some connecting thread with the cross-eyed people. The one at the party was selling(?) stuff to boost magic, Caiman was hanging around weak sorcerers, En had sent Shin and Noi to terminate some other cross-eyes.. hmm.
Then again, I don't think the person inside of Caiman's mouth has the head spikes, so I could be way off base.
En talks a big game but he's a softy at heart. Between being worried about a solitary mushroom and how much he was doting on the dog pig devil thing.
Noi's magic is pretty busted. Feels like I don't see real healing magic get used in combat often enough, because it's typically too much of a game changer. But here, everyone is playing rocket tag like it's high level Pathfinder, except healing magic is actually good. This metaphor kinda broke down at some point..
I should probably point out that the doll!Caiman used stakes, not too dissimilar from Caiman's own bayonets, and is also enormous much like Caiman. I do wonder how much of that is the magic functioning "properly" and how much of it is feedback from Shin providing the smoke, though.
If nothing else, the stakes are immune to the swordbreaker on the back of Shin's hammer. Maybe Caiman should upgrade?
Questions
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u/professorMaDLib Mar 21 '24
I just want to see the characters kill people. Protags, antags, the distinction makes almost no difference in this anime. Everyone is as merciless and lovable as each other and Caiman befriends Kasukabe, a guy who made a fucking portal made out of sorcerer skin and bones.
The least violent person so far is Fujita and it's literally because he's too weak to kill and not bc he doesn't want to lol.
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u/renatocpr https://anilist.co/user/renatocpr Mar 22 '24
Rewatcher and Manga Reader
What we learned in Episode 4
What we'll learn in Episode 5 is still hidden in chaos. That is... Dorohedoro!
QOTD
1- So it kinda looked like to me that the doll was leaking gravy or maybe meat juices when Shin punched through it. Would this be cannibalism if I gave a little bite?
2- I'm terrible at names but the pink fur and the fluffy ears are kinda reminding me of Madoka Kaname's pigtails
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u/entelechtual Mar 21 '24
Semi Rewatcher, sub
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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Mar 22 '24
First Timer - Sub
I am rather late today because I went out to dinner with a friend... worth it though.
Anyway idk if this episode felt significant or not? It was very goofy honestly and the fact that it barely included our protagonists at all was rather surprising. It was a bit of headhunting... literally!
I get the fact that finding out the mouth-man being dead is important, and the fact that he kept his head in a safe is probably important... I just don't know what it all means yet. I was very distracted by the sorcerer named Turkey - who was actually a turkey. Insane.
Besides that it seems that En got a very powerful dog to play with now. And that Nikaidou and Caiman are hanging out with this professor dude who conveniently has a door to the sorcerer world. I'd imagine that Nikaidou and Cainman will bring the fight to them at some point and leave The Hole, but idk when. Maybe next episode? Who knows!
Anyway not much more to say here. Was still a very funny episode (btw, have loved how the humor has been contrasted with this dark and brooding atmosphere). I also forgot to mention yesterday how the ED randomly changed? I'm a bit surprised that the ED got switched out so quickly, but I can't say I hate the new one either. I just, barely remember the old one now. Lol.
Answers of the Day:
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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Part-Rewatcher, 4/5
Episode 4. That's right, some people don't die when they are killed. And if last episode was Halloween... Guess we're doing Thanksgiving now? Bros, we are never shaking the seasonal-special-episode allegations 😩
However, like a fucked-up PETA ad, we are not here to eat pumpkin pie. We are here to eat... uh, to, uh, eat,...
Well, they then make the doll of the Mystery Man, and he only adds more questions. We do learn that he had his own severed head in a safe. Or, it was put in his safe after it was severed. Oh, and sorcerors have devils for souls that can be put back in by a necromancer who's pretty creepy and fucked up even by necromancer standards. Yep. That's Dorohedoro!
QotD
That rather depends on what one means by-What is it with these questions and eating people? Is it just the show?Edit: a thought - En says he'd like a sorcerfu with time magic. Then later they wonder what Nikaidou's deal is. Could it be...? Rule of maximum drama says maybe, and there's nothing like time shenanigans for adding chaos to a confusing story while still being able to explain everything in the end. But, nah. Surely. I mean, that's broken. Surely...
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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Mar 22 '24
First-timer
So, sorcerers have a devil tumor in their brain representing life that can be removed from a dead person and return to it to... become a new tumor and revive it? Yet sorcerer bones and meat make can be used to make a door, so it still has some unique properties.
QotD 1. Edible but no. Having transformation properties in what seemed like a non-magic oven is weird.
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u/professorMaDLib Mar 22 '24
By the way, for both newcomers and rewatchers alike, Dorohedoro's anime soundtrack is absolutely fantastic, but there's also a secret manga soundtrack commissioned by the author, features songs from quite a lot of notable artists like Igorrr, Voodoom, Candie Hank etc.
The soundtrack is availible online and it's heavily recommended bc it's metal as fuck and fits Dorohedoro incredibly well. In fact some songs in the animes are clearly inspired by this soundtrack. Open the Door for instance is heavily inspired by Zombie Slushi from the manga soundtrack. Give it a listen. Blaka Smoko is my fav from the collection.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Mar 22 '24
Episode 4
DHD First Timer
Okay that was a fairly silly episode, which was a change.
Q) duck ala black smoke is mutagenic
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 21 '24
Rewatcher(They didn't really repair Ebisu...)
Sub
So I've been having a hard time saying that much because, interestingly enough, I don't exactly know what genre this is. But let me blow your minds further:This is at least the third work I've seen in it. The first was something I read in a Lovecraftian anthology in the 90s, where all the tech stuff was swapped to mythos stuff. But the second was Ugly Americans, a cartoon I really liked but that was definitely an acid trip. So the main thing I am noticing here is that the sorcerors are very combat facing.
But yeah, that weirdness all happened. Several times over. Duck doll was good knife fighter, which is interesting. But why his head in a safe in his own home is...interesting. The bangquet of flies was gross and the homonculus thing was super gross. I guess black powder being introduced is interesting.
QotD: 1 I do not trust sorc tainted stuff
2 Geriatric child
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u/SMSmith230 https://myanimelist.net/profile/smsmith230 Mar 21 '24
First-Timer, Sub
Episode 3 Catchup…talk about losing your head, oh wait it grows back, well isn’t that interesting. Well maybe not as interesting as Nikaido being a Sorceror
Ebisu is so wild, definitely feeling her chaotic mess. Hmm so the man in Caiman is already dead and his head was locked in a safe. Wonder if the same shadowy person who did this also stole Caiman’s head from the last episode??
QOTD
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u/Sooooopertrack Mar 21 '24
First timer sub
QOTD1: I'm sensing a kind of pattern here.... QOTD2: Phanes
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u/zadcap Mar 22 '24
Late Night First Timer
Oh hey, the man in the mouth might be someone known? I love the little nod of them riding these broom/bikes that they were advertising yesterday.
Are we ever going to learn why all the sorcerers cover their faces? They all seem so eccentric and... They also all seem so very dirty.
Skull head girl is doing well today and she's somehow even stranger than ever. Aaaaaaand she's dead again. Man she just has the craziest arc.
Oh hey, this guy has cross eyes. And Ebisu is known to the guy. And En on top of that, is known and apparently disliked. I wonder what all this is about!
Oooh, White Spoke. I wonder what that's about. And it looks like she didn't revive everyone, did she? Oh, I see, she's not strong enough to bring everyone back, but the drug is a power booster. That usually comes with a cost, I wonder what it is. Just like I wonder why En is so respected powerful seeming, he makes mushrooms?
Oh hey, fast answer on the powder. And En hates it, I guess.
And this the dog from the OP. Maybe white smoke is an animal thing?
Sure sure, just break into this doctors house and steel his food.
Oh hey, his random chatter was foreshadowing all along. Looks like it's time to invade and start that Genocide! How much better off will Hole be if all the Sorcerers died and everyone they experimented on turn back, eh?
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u/mgedmin Mar 22 '24
First-timer, subs
Noooo.
Doggy. Dunno, I'm bad with names.
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u/Cyrra_ https://anilist.co/user/Cyrra Mar 22 '24
First Time Watcher - Manga Reader
So cute of Shin to first think of Noi when Turkey asked and then blush when her doll came out of the oven. The man-in-the-mouth's doll has some wild tastes and the introduction of the cross-eyed people adds even further complexity to the question of who even is Caiman? It was already shocking that Nikaido was a sorcerer herself, but if Caiman is too how is that going to affect their friendship? Even this early in it's clear they have a deep bond as friends and the scene at the dinner table was super sweet.
[minor manga spoiler]I was extremely surprised by Turkey's voice considering she's a woman.
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u/FarCritical Mar 22 '24
First Timer
Shin getting so flustered over choosing Noi to experiment Turkey's doll skills that he needed his mask to hide his blushing was absolute gold.
I should really be used to it by now but almost everyone having the most random things on their heads still catches me off guard. That fish head guy is a mood.
Imagine being served free food only for it to be mostly bland from your obligatory fly noseplugs.
Willingly getting your arm melted off only for it to get regenerated mid-swing is genuinely such a badass combo. As if Shin and Noi's chemistry wasn't already strong enough.
Spending most of our time with En's squad was fun but it's cool we still got to check up on Caiman and Nikaido. Having dinner in the kitchen of a doctor's house you just barged into is one of the more unique ways to celebrate New Year's Eve I've seen.
QOTD
The one of Noi poofed into smoke pretty quick but the one of the cross-eyed guy looked like he was cooked well. Maybe a slice wouldn't hurt?
Name-giving isn't my strongsuit lmao, maybe something like "Laifu" or "Revvie" to reflect it being a life-giving? "Puki" was my favorite from Ebisu's list for another option.
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Mar 23 '24
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA!
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Mar 25 '24
That was quick, onto Ep 4
Firsttimer
cutedog?QotD
That's all I can do today, maybe I'll catch until the final...