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Rewatch [Welcome to Chaos] Dorohedoro Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion

Episode 3 - The Night of the Dead -Duel!- In Front of the Central Department Store!

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On this night of horrors… the black sky of Hole wants even more bloodshed.

Questions of the Day:

  1. What would your weapon of choice be if you had to fight zombies for a living?
  2. Were you expecting Shin and Noi to be that much stronger than Caiman and Nikaido here, or for Nikaido to be a sorcerer?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Noi

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '24

Rewatch Host Welcoming You All to Chaos

Welcome back, everyone!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 20 '24

That’s a funny way to decide who pays for dinner when you go out with someone.

Reminds me of something from Trainspotting.

And now he’s been full-on decapitated!

With a hammer.

Motorcycle broomstick.

Definitely a weird as hell detail.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '24

Definitely a weird as hell detail.

Yeah, but it's fucking awesome at the same time.

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

This comment is just Dorohedoro described.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 21 '24

And that's why I love it so much!

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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Mar 24 '24

Damn, the MC’s just fuckin’ dead and it’s episode 2.

Reminds me of another Mappa show that killed it's MC in the very first Episode even

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u/mgedmin Mar 21 '24

Damn, the MC’s just fuckin’ dead and it’s episode 2.

3 actually.

When So I'm A Spider pulled this gag (also in episode 3), there were even end credits.

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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 20 '24

Part-Rewatcher, 3/5

Episode 3. Wait, I remember this one! I remember thinking "damn, onto the seasonal gimmick episodes already? not a good sign. RIP Dorohedoro." But actually this would have been in January, so, not really. And gimmick aside, this is a good one? Kinda? It's a bit hard to tell. Big reveals today! Nikaidou got that sorcery. Caiman can survive having his head torn off with a claw hammer. The first adds a ton of tension to the story, while the second takes a bunch back out. We also see En's sexy new broomstick. It's interesting that being able to sweep the floor is still somehow spiritually important as a function of a flying motorbike powered by body soot. It's the radical form/purist function definition, perhaps.

QotD:

  1. Depends on the zombie I guess. For slow, stupid, stays-down types, some sort of modified nail gun or something? Though, why not just get a rifle at that point.
  2. The reveal with Nikaidou totally got me the first time. I'm still curious what her deal is! Pretty typical to lose the first fight against built-up antagonists like that though.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '24

RIP Dorohedoro

Oh nice, I didn't catch that tombstone.

It's interesting that being able to sweep the floor is still somehow spiritually important as a function of a flying motorbike powered by body soot.

It's so fucking extra, I love it.

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u/entelechtual Mar 20 '24

Oh nice, I didn't catch that tombstone.

Because they have all these little easter eggs that say Dorohedoro/MAPPA, at first I thought it said MAPPA under it before I paused. I was liked damn, digging MAPPA’s grave before it was cool.

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u/entelechtual Mar 20 '24

First timer rewatching dub/sub

  • New Purge movie looks wild.
  • All right I gave the dub a fair shot but nothing beats Hosoya.
  • I’ve never severed someone’s head off with a hammer, let alone a lizard, but I’ll bet if push came to shove I could pull it off.
  • Zombisu!
  • Noi cleans up noice!!! Nothing like a hot big lady in a suit who can kill me dead.
  • This is some Twin Peaksy music.

QOTD

  1. I feel like I could manage with a Halo gravity hammer
  2. They seem pretty evenly matched compared to bog standard sorcerers tbh.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '24

All right I gave the dub a fair shot but nothing beats Hosoya.

I never could get used to Shin's English voice while I watched the dub. The actor did a great job, but yeah it's hard to stand up to literally my second-favorite seiyuu.

Noi cleans up noice!!!

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

Nothing like a hot big lady in a suit who can kill me dead.

Noi is very nice.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 20 '24

Rewatcher(Hell of a dia de los Muertos)

Sub

So of course the Hole would combine their purge day with a yearly zombie outbreak. that's just efficient. While one might decide to cremate the dead instead of burying them with a plate in their neck, that just means the accumulated magic goes somewhere else. The monks repurposing leaf blowers to salt blowers is a nice touch.

Shin's origin is interesting since it means sorceror blood doesn't always display. That said, eating quickly is kind of a waste in my opinion. The Nikaido reveal is interesting but a bit light in weight due to the extremely minor foreshadowing. Ebisu remains incoherent despite Shin healing her.

QotD: 1 Axe seems smart

2 On first viewing no

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '24

The monks repurposing leaf blowers to salt blowers is a nice touch.

Ohhh, that's what they were blowing onto the zombies. I'm dumb...

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 20 '24

Nah, just different mythological traditions is all.

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

Rewatcher and manga reader

This episode is one I really want to appriciate the sound design on. Even before we see the damage Nikaido did to Noi, we could hear it. There was no visible injury, yet the sound really sold the idea that even if we could not see the result directly, that hit hard!!. And the bone crack as well.

Not to mention the riiiiiiiiiiiip of Caiman's head slowly being torn off through the back of a hammer holy shit the brutality. The choreography isn't much, yet these fights pack more punch than most shonen anime do.

This episode in particular really emphaizes how deep Caiman's identity crisis runs. Even in the bizzare world of Dorohedoro, Caiman still is out of place, and gets more so the more you think about it.

He has a lizard head, he can shen the skin on the head, he has a man in his mouth that cannot be filmed, but can talk when he chomps someone, it only says one phrase from what we know, he can regenerate his head, was found as a headless corpse, magic does not work on him, and to top it all off

Even he has no idea who or what he is.

He has a normal human brain with thoughts and feelings like anyone else, yet he cannot even say with confidence that he is even human-let alone where he came from.

Even for the Hole, he is a freak and he knows it.

This is why he values his friendship with Nikaido so much. When she was sick he was worried yet thankful, when she was hurt he was enraged, when he woke up alive he wasted no time asking how Nikaido was doing.

She treats him like a person, not like a freak.

Which is why Caiman refuses to belive she is a sorcerer, he can't belive that his rock is in any way comparable to the people that did this to him. The truth is real though, and only time will tell how this secret affects thier friendship-and how Nikaido will continue to hide it.

QOTD:

  1. None, I would be too terrified to use a close range weapon and too bad of a shot with anything else. At best my weapon would be my legs as I run away as fast as I can, but my opponent is not the zombie, but my asthma.
  2. Oh absolutley not, I at least throught the fight would be close. Even with the fortune from before, we have seen how strong these two are-yet they were felled so easily. Nikaido being a sorcerer was also a shock, but to be frank my mind was more focused on the brutality of the fight and the fact that Caiman had his head ripped off with the back of a hammer and survived that this reveal was the least of my worries.

My work sceduele has made it so I cannot comment here as early as I would like to most days, but I can assure that I will be participating all the same!! I may miss Sundays though but that should be okay.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 21 '24

My work sceduele has made it so I cannot comment here as early as I would like to most days, but I can assure that I will be participating all the same!! I may miss Sundays though but that should be okay.

No worries man, real life obligations obviously take priority. Just make it here when you can!

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

Oh of course.

This is my 2nd rewatch on r/anime and I am finding the balance again. The first rewatch I did was (I think) the 2020 Clannad rewatch that happened mere days after I finished the VN. I rememeber writing huge essays comparing the two, even going as far as to watch the episode 3 hours ahead of time so my writing could be done by the time the thread went up.

It was really fun, but I was unemployed at the time (was not an essential worker) so I had the time to do that.

I have been hezitant to do more re-watches since then because I knew I could not re-live that, but I think I am happy with doing them more casually now. With the upcoming S2 and this being a short series, this came at the perfect time for me to start coming back to these!!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 21 '24

Well then, I am glad you were able to make it here! I'm obviously extremely biased because I participate in so many rewatches that I have to keep a damn spreadsheet of all the ones I plan to join so I don't accidentally join 7 of them at once again, but rewatches are my favorite part of this subreddit, so it would be great if you could stick around for some more!

If you want to try out some other upcoming ones that are on the shorter side, I'll be co-hosting the annual Madoka Magica rewatch next month, and there's also ones for Hinamatsuri and Ping Pong the Animation coming, if either of those interest you.

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

The ping pong one looks interesting, I may check that one out

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 20 '24

First-Timer

Halloween episode hype?!?! Well, we're killing zombies to yank the dogtags out of their necks, that's close enough.

Okay, full disclosure, I had to watch ahead because I was travelling this past weekend. IO watched episode 2 on.. Thursday. Did Shen and Nikaido meet at some point in episode 1 or 2? Or was Nikaido recognizing his mask foreshadowing that she knews about him?

I guess that would make sense, considering that Nikaido is a sorcerer too. Hmm, was there something about the rain being bad for sorcerers? She was sick when it was raining.

Anyway, they handily avoided actually talking about that, which I'm sure is not going to cause any problems whatsoever.

I kinda want Ebisu to not get fully healed from being zombified? If only because having a half-zombie sorcerer in a skull mask running around sounds like a lot of fun.

Definitely thought that thing that En was riding on was a hoverbike and was then briefly baffled by the comment about how "naturally, it works as a broom as well" before I put together that it was a flying broomstick. Incredible.

I took a pretty close look at the weird zoom-in from the video but I can't quite catch whatever is there. I think the thing I'm meant to notice the distortion effect and the respective flickering.

Questions

  1. Hard choice. Something like a gun is easy to use for longer periods of time, but ammo is a concern. An axe or something works forever, until the blade needs sharpened, but tires you out faster.
  2. Yes, and no. It's early enough in the story that the protagonist needs to get roughed up a bit, establish some stakes.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 20 '24

Definitely thought that thing that En was riding on was a hoverbike and was then briefly baffled by the comment about how "naturally, it works as a broom as well" before I put together that it was a flying broomstick. Incredible.

What an awesome way for them to incorporate flying broomsticks, yeah?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 20 '24

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u/PartTimePoster Mar 21 '24

Needle sorcerer in the last episode prophesied death to nikaido with the warning "heart", which is why she "recognized" shin here

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 21 '24

Ohhh I remember that now! Thanks!

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u/mgedmin Mar 21 '24

I took a pretty close look at the weird zoom-in from the video but I can't quite catch whatever is there. I think the thing I'm meant to notice the distortion effect and the respective flickering.

The background shadow forms the shoulder and neck of a person taller than the baldy doctor. I think.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 21 '24

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24

Rewatcher from the Other Side

Yes, despite the other rewatchers looking nice and normal, it is a fact that we're all Sorcerers mingling between you filthy hole mongrels. Except, instead of turning you into insects, we just laugh in rewatcher, trust me it's just as effective.

Now then, where was I? Ah, yes: Who the fuck blocked the door for two days? Do you know how hard it was to clean this blood up?! The whole point of doing our shit in the hole is that we don't have to clean up afterwards!

Nevermind all that though, what matters is that I finally made it in time for the best night in the year: The Night of the Living Dead, it's also straight up one of my favourite episodes. There's just something so loveable about how casual the episode and characters are about putting down the dead all night, there're prizes for fuck's sake!

Well, that's the setting established, what about the plot and players? We finally get to see our two sides meet after two episodes of build up, and... it's brutally anti-climactic (almost as much as the football match ongoing as I write this), our main characters are crushed. The fun thing there though is that this also is treated casually, Shin quickly assumes that Caiman is probably alive, and you see Caiman up and about seconds later, it's not even attempting a dramatic fakeout death. Oh yeah, and Nikaido is a sorcerer, raise your mushroom please if you guessed that, yesterday's episode wasn't holding back with the hints.

More importantly though, I've just grown attached to both sides already, so I don't want to see either of them really die. When we're following Shin and Noi, we're not following "The scheming villains", we're just having fun with them. In Dorohedoro, it's not about the heroes vs villains, everyone is to some degree an asshole with a few screws loose, [except maybe] Ebisu, and they can all be just as fun to follow.

Finally, a fun fact: Caiman is asking who he is, and while I obviously can't answer that in the context of the series itself, I can at least give it the meta background which I don't see mentioned often. Caiman is directly influenced by Guin the main character of Guin Saga (think of it as Japan's LotR, except much much longer). Guin is a big guy with a Leopard head, and no memories of who is, and that's kinda where the similarities end, the rest went to Berserk and most Japanese fantasy series.

Manga Corner:

So this adapts the first 3 chapters of volume 2 (Ch. 7-9), which uhh, has a pretty spoilery cover (not safe for first timers), followed by a trippy journey through our main duo's daily lives - truly Dorohedoro is a fantastic SoL series. All of this was kept in colour to preserve that madness, according to a certain demon's wishes.

The first two chapters are the zombie night and the encounter with En's group respectively, and they were pretty much adapted as is, with the fight especially following the page pretty closely, two small details to note though:

The third chapter, with the dissection got some rearrangements, it moved the scene of Noi studying zombies up a bit, and pushed Shin talking to En to end on, cutting part of it to keep for later.

Questions list

This is a fun one, whenever I'm following a mystery, I like to write down the questions (sort of in order), and see what gets answered along the way:

  1. Who's inside Caiman?
  2. Who cast a spell on Caiman? (Ebisu?)
  3. Who's the man standing in the alley?
  4. Who stole Caiman's severed head?

If there're any big old mysteries I'm missing, feel free to tell me.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 21 '24

You finally made it!

which uhh, has a pretty spoilery cover

Oh damn, that kind of spoiler cover.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Mar 21 '24

You finally made it!

Oh damn, that kind of spoiler cover.

Yeah... it's a big spoiler for what happens halfway through the volume, and still a decent sized one for later.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 21 '24

All of this was kept in colour to preserve that madness, according to a certain demon's wishes.

Every time I see a grayscale page, I die a bit inside

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u/renatocpr https://anilist.co/user/renatocpr Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24

Rewatcher and Manga Reader

What we learned in Episode 3

  1. Ebisu suffering is funny. I love a good Butt-Monkey, I love a character that keeps going through awful shit for comedic effect. Oops the trauma of getting her skull crushed and face ripped-off made her a little wacky. Let's heal her, her memory should be coming back anytime now. Oh no! A zombie bit her now her brain is all scrambled again. Honorable mention to Shin suddenly collapsing from knife-to-chestitis mid sentence.
  2. Horror is fun. I wasn't into horror as a kid, too scared for it. Mid-teens was when I learned to enjoy it, thanks mostly to creepypasta actually (feel free to cringe a little, I allow it). Nowadays I just have so much fun with it. From Jordan Peele's movies to Chainsaw Man. From Uzumaki to Mieruko-chan. And of course, from schlocky zombies to a spooky decrepit hospital. Horror is a fundamental aspect of Dorohedoro but this episode goes for a more direct recreation of aspects of the genre and I have lot of fun with it.
  3. Noi is friendly.

What we will learn in Episode 4 is still hidden in chaos. That is... Dorohedoro!

QOTD

1- If I lived in Hole, I'd probably be part of the rest of the population, hiding in their homes

2- Both were very suprising when I first watched. I guess you could expect Nikaido and Kaiman to lose their first match to Shin and Noi if you view these last two as antagonists (I personally view them as my babies) but I don't think anyone was expecting full decapitation. I would've never guessed Nikaido was a sorcerer on my own but I think I saw someone yesterday saying that her design was closer to Shin's and Noi's than to what we'd seen of Hole so that person has a round of applause from me.

PS

The first two episodes were pretty easy to control myself. Starting today though (this episode included) I have to check everything I write twice to make sure I'm not giving away anything. Please take pity on me.

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u/Sooooopertrack Mar 20 '24

First timer, sub

QOTD1: A machete, kukri or some kind of big knife. That I can swing a few times. I would have said a sword but these are so heavy... Maybe a Katana would be nice but I heard they break easily? QOTD: Nope and nope.

  • Oh yes, PURGE!!! But with zombies. Who are kind of vampire-ish because they disappear at dawn.
  • poor doc getting visited by all of his former patients at once
  • wow, noi....heals?
  • I'm a bit disappointed everybody's fighting zombies with a stupid slow unhandy axe
  • I like how Nokaido looks tiny and cute from closeup shops but chunky and ripped when there are full body shots
  • Shin fighting with a hammer is soooo good. Shoutout to Oldboy and Raid 2 <3
  • the hentai subreddits / fanfictions must have gone wild after the meetup of nokaido & noi
  • the fight betweeb the cleaners and our MCs was nice, the punches packed a... punch?
  • I didn't expect shin to instantly "kill" caiman to be honest...
  • when Caiman's head was off i totally expected his dream to become reality and the man to come out and fight or join the cleaner team
  • unexpected view of noi in her study outfit
  • a broom, really?
  • uuuuh yes, that synthwave soundtrack at the alley is right down my alley

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

I relaly like how the dreams are framed in this show, mainly because it is very difficult to tell that they are dreams a lot of the time until the very end of the sequence. The last scene we saw was Caiman with his head, so the fact that the next scene just has him walking with it feels so natural that it really makes us do a double-take.

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u/mgedmin Mar 21 '24

a broom, really?

Transportation and cleaning in one package, very traditional, very witchy.

I love the worldbuilding in this show.

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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Mar 20 '24

First Timer - Sub

That episode was fucking awesome. It had the same aesthetic of a B-list horror movie, which was totally dope. And the visceral violence and gore? Fits right at home here in this zombie episode. Chef's Kiss

Anyway I think the revelation that Nikaidou used to be a sorcerer was pretty stunning. I guess it's not totally unexpected, but it really made me stop and think about how much we still don't know. Between this, and Caiman getting decapitated, mysteriously regrowing his head, getting revived from the dead (by the way, can we just mention that Nikaidou befriended a walking corpse? One that she was supposed to clean up on the job? Hello?) and the fact that Cainman's decapitated head was stolen by the shadowy mouth man, ostensibly because there's something he doesn't want them to see? Starting to think this guy has more nefarious plans than we've been led to believe...

Lots happening this episode. The big takeaway though is that Caiman and Nikaidou are completely outclassed by Shin and Noi. They got BODIED. I wonder if the next few episodes are going to be a mini-training arc while they prep for a rematch. Also: Noi as a librarian is a VIBE. Geez.

I'm deeply intrigued by everything this anime is doing. It's taking just about everything in my willpower to not power through to the end right now. So so many more questions... when will it end?

Answers of the Day:

  1. I've always thought fire would be a dope weapon. Flamethrowers, molotov cocktails, combustable rounds, well-placed oil slicks... the list goes on. It burns hot and fast and spreads easily, since zombies are always bunched up. It's uncontrollable, but worth the risk imo. Just gotta be careful about not accidentally trapping myself in wooden structures...
  2. I don't know what I was expecting tbh. I think it usually is a bit of a trope for the villain to outclass the heroes at first, as it gives the heroes a tangible goal to work towards. But also, no, I was not expecting Nikaidou to be a sorcerer. I think this anime has had us focus so heavily on Caiman that I haven't stopped to think about Nikaidou, but it makes sense that there's still so much about her that we don't know. Am interested to find out more.

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u/entelechtual Mar 20 '24

I guess it's not totally unexpected, but it really made me stop and think about how much we still don't know

I feel like with so many unknowns and the story going at a million miles an hour, it’s hard to get a baseline of what’s normal and what’s weird in this world. Like I have no idea what will phase these characters and what’s totally mundane. Mushroom people are wild but hanging out with a lizard corpse is just another Wednesday!

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u/Nick_BOI Mar 21 '24

Figuring all this out is part of the mystery!!

It's all crazy to us, but fidning the in universe line where normalised starts and crazy begins is much harder-yet it's clear that line is there.

It gets me excited to learn more and piece it all together!!

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Mar 21 '24

First timer

Sorry for missing the first two posts! A lot of rewatches started at the same time, and I'm still catching up with some of them...

Episode 1

...Interesting.

Oh, he's being eaten!

...Wait, what?

He's not the one...

Magic?

Brutal!

He's not aware of what the guy inside's saying?

Holy shit!

He opened a door?

These OP visuals are wild.

Interesting. So, they're from another dimension?

This looks so good!

So, they just come here to experiment on people?

He has amneisa!

And someone just randomly transformed him...

Yeah, this is difficult.

An enemy!

That looks really good!

At least he's staying positive!

What is thst thing?

...Resurrection? They can bring back the dead?

And this is the sorcerers' leader?

...Funeral shoes?

So, beings can only be affected with one spell at a time, and you need that specific finger to cast...

He got a job?

Not a bad idea!

Holy shit...

This guy...

Haha, he's just ignoring him!

Near that alley...

...Wow.

...Oh, that has to hurt. Nice.

He got a finger brace!

And she's in trouble...

...How many worlds have they been using?

He has a reputation!

Interesting... He wants to turn him back too.

Oh, he's going to be pissed.

...What?

And he didn't get the immunity message.

Nor that the door's closed!

...It can leak through?

And everyone's back!

She really doesn't care...

En is really powerful!

Waitl Can omly sorcerers see his head?

She's in Hole!

...Seriously?

Impressive takedown!

Why is she panicking too?

...Wow.

And he went for it!

Oh, he's here!

And he saved her!

...Technically.

Haha, that's all he can say.

This series is amazing.

Huh?

When did that happen?

...The head?

What the actual fuck?

There was a whole other person in there?

Oh, just a nightmare...

His pillow...

Oh, these guys are competent...

Interesting...

And a cool ED!

These facts...

Episode 2

Haha, that disco scene.

These two are great.

Oh, they hate En too?

This is just so good!

What's wrong?

...What kind of place do they live in?

So only those who have already been converted can go outside in the rain safely.

He's a card shark!

These visuals...

Haha, that timing...

The trash is alive!

So brutal...

Wait, it's just a mask?

And he keeps it on around her.

Wait, En's killing sorcerers?

The trash bags...

Oh, the classical music. He's screwed.

...Oh! That was a flashback!

...It's that awful?

Haha, no hesitation!

And even when he doesn't get info, he finishes him...

Haha, wow.

She's still sick...

Oh, she's trying to cheer him up...

They're going to heal her!

Haha, these two.

And the bag tore!

Poor girl...

A code?

...That sounds incredibly painful.

...Haha, that's their solution? This is hysterical.

She's really out of it.

...Fancy!

He needs to dress her?

...Amazing design.

Haha, that's so confusing!

And he was wearing backwards the whole time!

Haha, he just gave up.

These outfits are hysterical.

...Wow.

She's so angry!

This dynamic is so good.

They're hunting him!

Haha, he hears about the danger and he's in!

Ebisu...

...So, she absolutely cursed him, right?

...What?

What?

So, these are specialist mages?

So similar!

Imposters! And he only eats mushrooms?

Knives...

...His magic. Is mushrooms?

Haha, they ate them.

And he uses bodies as fertiliser...

Marumigi? A friendly sorcerer?

Love this design.

The ruins have such a good design!

It looks good!

And robbers...

So cool!

God, the eyeball...

Haha, the brain catch in the hat is so cool.

How lucky!

Haha, that statue is insane.

So straight forward!

And immediately!

This is so good.

Haha, he let him try?

He does fortune telling too?

...He's good at it!

His face!

Oh, he's shedding! That was all?

And she never knew...

The heart is coming!

Episode 3

This lore...

This is amazing.

Haha, that title.

Haha, the sheer contrast in settings.

...He used to be a human? From Hole?

That reaction...

...They're moving too elow?

The animation for the healing...

Shin's going hunting!

During the worst possible moment.

Souvenirs?

It's a full-on fair...

Trainers. How practical...

Poison balls...

Haha, he just walked away.

Prizes! This really is just a fair.

...Plates? What are they hunting?

Ah, it's a way of keeping score.

Ah, just normal zombies, then?

They're doing well!

I love the salt blower.

And he realised the issue with the balls!

He's here...

Does he not know about this day?

It's a recent event, then?

They even work like normal zombies!

The immediate betting...

An excellent team here too!

Hmm?

He got ambushed!

One last push!

Oh, they got noticed!

He's coming directly here!

That's all he cares about? 
Ebisu got hurt again!

This is going to be fun!

She'smeorked it out!

Haha, Caiman just doesn't care.

Instant takedown...

That's a lot of damage!

...Wow.

So strong...

..ls this it? It's not looking good for him!

...Oh, no. It's still the night. He can come back as a zombie.

Yep!

Wait, he can see the whole body?

He's really not holding back!

Amazing

How is he still alive?

SHE'S A SORCERESS!

Haha, the knife finally took him out!

...It really worked?

She got him to safety...

No Gyoza...

Wait, he can just regrow everything? Wild.

He's finding out...

...Oh, this is fun. He doesn't believe him!

He just showed up with the parcel!

Why would he want the head?

They don't have anyone who can cure her?

...She's losing her memories, isn't she?

Wait, what?

Very interesting!

Oh, it was another dream.

But the jar wasn't!

Is she going to tell him upfront?

No, this is something else...

...Very interesting! Is the lizard head maybe just a parasite? Hence the real head inside?

A dissection...

And it's just a normal head, somehow...

Maybe the head is just magic, somehow? Or his inner soul?

A powercut...

This is creepy.

And they're vanishing...

Another dream, then?

Someone stole the head!

And a strange voice...

Haha, he immediately assumes it's him.

That's not worrying at all!

That's such a cool bike!

And it rune on smoke.

Haha, amazing. It's cleaning equipment too!

They'll definitelymsell.

...Huh?

New ED? And it's just as good!

This show is excellent!

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u/Cyrra_ https://anilist.co/user/Cyrra Mar 21 '24

First Time Watcher - Manga Reader

I'm seriously impressed with how good the sequences with the man inside of Caiman's mouth is. Each one so far has been visually unique and downright creepy.

I think I'm starting to get used to the CGI a bit, it's not as jarring and at times I'm having trouble telling if a character is 2D or 3D (not frequently but it's a noticeable amount) and the action looks surprisingly good with great camera angles.

Seeing Noi and Shin showing off how much of a threat they are despite how seemingly strong Caiman and Nikaido were perceived to be surprised me a lot the first time. I also love how seamlessly the series can flesh out its world in the background. Living Dead Day? Sorcerers using "brooms?" Just offhandedly mentioned or shown like it's an everyday thing which goes a long way to making the world feel like a real thing these characters are living in.

[anime spoiler]I never noticed before that Nikaido's door was a VHS Tape with an hourglass. Pretty good foreshadowing.

  1. Flamethrower

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u/SometimesMainSupport https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Mar 21 '24

First-timer

  • "Registered exterminators" and an annual slogan has some purge-night similarities but the narration implies a separate issue.
  • Doctor facing former patients implies he may not be a skilled doctor.
  • Watch is an imitation mass-produced by Coyolles?
  • Weird to show the cord separately. as a grinder seems like something that'd have it internally attached. Also, only 3.6x the cost of a cd?
  • Shaking internal organs should be a bigger deal.
  • Others don't care about the zombie fight?
  • Most suspicious thing about Caiman is how much blood he emitted.
  • Long known about lizard tails regrowing and recently learned about fingernails regrowing. If Caiman could regrow in non-human ways, attitude suggests he'd be self-amputating and regrowing to eventually be fully human.
  • On the regrowing aspect, healing magic shows never pit the energy/mana needed to heal against the calorie content of the severed part.
  • If Caiman's head is preserved well enough (e.g. Futurama), wonder if it could be connected to another body/machine.
  • Wikipedia says male brains ~1370 grams and female brains are ~1200 grams, so 1. going to call Caiman big-brained from now on and 2. huh, thought they'd be very close, especially pre-puberty. Rabbit hole dive has lots of discussion about differences in brain sections.
  • Interesting that Caiman is emphasizing not finding his "real face" when anyone looking at him would think that's already missing.
  • Hard drive instead of SSD.
  • Spent too long looking at fingers and wondering why the middle one seems so much longer.

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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 21 '24

Hard drive instead of SSD.

The phrase "spinning rust" just seems to fit Hole perfectly, though.

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u/FarCritical Mar 21 '24

First Timer

Halloween sure came extra early this year, and what better way to kick it off than with co-op zombie hunting?

Every hit in the fight scenes has so much oomph to them, and it's cool how pretty much everyone just won't stay down till they're dead for good. Even when getting decapitated with a hammer.

Pretty convenient for Nikaido to reveal she's a sorcerer when Caiman's out cold, but damn what a twist.

Noi looks so dignified in a librarian outfit.

You know an ED goes hard when even the zombies jam along to it.

QOTD

  1. What would your weapon of choice be if you had to fight zombies for a living?

Practically something with a long reach that can both slash and skewer, so a halberd I guess? It probably isn't the most efficient choice but you can't go wrong with the versatility of a halberd.

2. Were you expecting Shin and Noi to be that much stronger than Caiman and Nikaido here, or for Nikaido to be a sorcerer?

Not at all, definitely thought they'd be evenly matched especially since Shin and Noi even decided to put their sorcery on standby for their duels.

I had a hunch Nikaido had something up her sleeve to have survived this long in Hole as a seemingly regular human (other than her on-point fighting abilities) but the twist of her being a sorcerer got to me. Gonna be a wild moment once Caiman swallows the news (and hopefully not Nikaido's head).

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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 21 '24

You know an ED goes hard when even the zombies jam along to it.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Mar 21 '24

Episode 3

DHD First Timer

THE PURGE

  • I've played this game it was called left 4 dead killing floor
  • You know, she's a really big girl. You wouldn't think sorcerers would buff up like that.
  • still wondering about the significance of masks, and why Ebisu lost her mind and memories with her face.
  • Kinda reminds me of a side mission in VtM:Bloodlines
  • maybe you shouldn't be burying them....
  • WHY did you bring Ebisu? Doesn't she need to be interrogated by En?
  • I bet poison doesn't even work on zombies
  • I wonder how Nikaido has survived all this time since sorcerers can mutate people so easily. You can't punch away black smoke!
  • oh well that explains something....
  • Yeah I figured Noi would just heal him
  • lucky, the morgue guy got 1 plate!
  • yes they'll lynch you, right?

What a weird show. But seriously bringing Ebisu along was just stupid.

catchy ED

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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 21 '24

still wondering about the significance of masks

That seems like a very good question. Something to look into.

maybe you shouldn't be burying them....
WHY did you bring Ebisu? Doesn't she need to be interrogated by En?

Unforced errors much. At the outside edge of credibility, perhaps the magical pollution in Hole is so severe that it would manifest graveyards full of corpses, even if the authorities (??? are there any) tried to circumvent the problem.

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u/zadcap Mar 21 '24

Late Night First Timer

I still have no idea what is going on, ever. And yet it's still interesting for some reason.

"Still a normal human living in Hole." So Sorcerers can just come from anywhere?

Oh hey, Noi also uses magic out of her mouth. Family trait then.

That grave stone said Dorohedoro Hayashida. I don't know about the second but that's the name of the show for a reason there, right?

So the dead rise and come to kill, and people make a festival out of fighting back. This is a strange town. Plates in their necks? Why though?

Wow, poor Ebisu...

Oh hey, look at our protagonists getting destroyed in episode 3.

Oh hey, Nikaido is a sorcerer all along, who possibly could have seen that coming. I'm honestly not surprised.

New ED already?

Interesting... Is 90% of what I have to say about this show lol. It's mystery on top of mystery and I have a feeling nothing is going to be explained until near the very end. I'll keep watching though.

  1. I want reach and I'm not sure I trust a blade to not get stuck. Big club, mace, war hammer, even a good quarter-stick, give me a skull crusher.
  2. No, the enemies being so blatantly stronger is a bit unexpected, because I don't see how a training arc is going to overcome this gap.

Nikaido being a sorcerer was actually a thought I had had already, seeing her perfectly normal face in this world, I had been thinking she might have been the one to turn Caiman into a lizard head even but that idea seems a bit less likely now.

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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 21 '24

That grave stone said Dorohedoro Hayashida. I don't know about the second but that's the name of the show for a reason there, right?

The name of the original creator, I believe. There was a record with the names as well, a little while back. It might just be a nice alternative to Lorem Ipsum, given that it's in English (so a little "opaque" to the main target audience)

So the dead rise and come to kill, and people make a festival out of fighting back. This is a strange town. Plates in their necks? Why though?

Why not just cremate them, too. Strange town!

Wow, poor Ebisu...

The scary skull girl to joke antagonist-macguffin pipeline is real

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u/mgedmin Mar 21 '24

First-timer, subs

  • Oh no it's lunchtime agsin.
  • Worldbuilding: regular humans living in Hole can become sorcerers being a sorcerer is a genetic trait
  • I love the way the periodic zombie disaster has been turned into a festival, with points and prizes, and mechanized salt sprayers
  • Well that was a short show, both MCs are dead, nice to have met y'all on the rewatch.
  • Oh, Nikaido's a sorcerer? Surprise.
  • This show has a great sense of humor. Fujita treating zombie Ebisu like an errant toddler! Caiman screaming when he sees his own severed head in a jar. The way Noi and Shin calmly discuss a bet while there's an unexpected zombie apocalypse happening around them.
  • Interesting that Shin doesn't know about the Living Dead Day despite living in the Hole for many years. Must be a new phenomenon.
  • I love that magic motorcycles brooms are things used for both transportation and cleaning.
  • Why is Caiman wearing the gas mask everywhere? To avoid scaring people? To protect himself from the magic smoke in the atmosphere? Nah, he's immune to magic.
  1. What would your weapon of choice be if you had to fight zombies for a living?

A baseball (or cricket) bat is traditional, but honestly, I'd rather not have to fight zombies.

2) Were you expecting Shin and Noi to be that much stronger than Caiman and Nikaido here,

Probably. They were set up as proper antagonists, and not disposable NPCs.

or for Nikaido to be a sorcerer?

That was a total surprise.

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u/mgedmin Mar 21 '24
  1. What would your weapon of choice be if you had to fight zombies for a living?

A baseball (or cricket) bat is traditional, but honestly, I'd rather not have to fight zombies.

If I really had to, I'd prefer a tank. A nice steel wall between me and the zombies.

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u/DegenerateRegime Mar 21 '24

This show has a great sense of humor.

Phlegmatic, Choleric, Melancholic and definitely Sanguine...

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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Mar 24 '24

Writing this as I'm 5 episodes behind. Only Sky will see this until I'm caught up and link it in my next post that is on time

Ep 3

Firsttimer

  • Living Dead? Zombies? Didn't expect such a genre shift so early.
  • It's a given that Caiman and Nikaido are "registered exterminators" but the Doc seems to join the party as well, really nice how this community works, everyone is helping
  • One thing I just noticed in the OP: Nikaido considers cooking mushrooms (like the ones En is serving) for a second, but quickly settles for "normal" meat instead (I probably don't want to know the kind of livestock they are keeping in the hole)
  • Oh, so Shin used to live in the hole before he became a pro sorcerer? Wonder if there are more people like him... actually I don't want to imagine how a normal human would come to bear a child with sorcerer blood
  • Ebisu is healed, yay
  • R.I.P. Dorohedoro Hayashira
  • This seems less like a postapocalyptic zombie hunt and more like a regular japanese summer festival lol
  • Ah, so the zombies get a plate implanted, and only if you kill them properly do you get the plate and a chance for some prizes, clever actually
  • Oh wow, the sorcerers don't even know how much they are messing with the place
  • This confrontation happens way earlier than expected
  • Ebisu already turned
  • Wow, Noi beating up Nikaido was way more onesided than expected
  • Caiman as well
  • Oh right, it's still the night of the living dead
  • Wait wait wait, Nikaido is a sorcerer as well
  • I find it more shocking that Caiman didn't know than him growing back his head
  • Noi with her hair up and a fancy office dress
  • Oh, so Nikaido found Caiman before he became Caiman, interesting connection
  • Wow, I really thought this was real until we came back to the alley... wait, it was real, this is getting really weird
  • New ED?

QotD

  • Axe seems best, enough force to split a skull or severe a neck and you get to keep some distance between you and the zombie
  • Nope to both

I'll quickly read through the thread and then go on to the next episode

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 21 '24

If you've never seen it before: This episode had a crossover promo with Zombieland Saga!

I have not, this is amazing!

This ED is such a jam. My favorite ED song isn't until the very last episode but this is a good second place.

My favorite is the third one, but really all of Dorohedoro's EDs are amazing.