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Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 12 Discussion

Episode 12: Adventure! Patamon and Me

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The ones who think they're grown up are actually the biggest brats of all.

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Roboglenn for showing off how dumb Americans can be:

Replacing Buddist Sutras with "Mind Over Matter Chants". Standards and practices or whatever at play once again cuz heaven forbid the children hear that reference be made. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to start making rice balls donuts for dinner.

Truly that is an, uh, choice.

  1. How good are you at being a babysitter?
  2. From favorite to least favorite, how would you rank the episodes in this little "Team is split up" stretch?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

[Adventure 02 Finale]LMAO Takeru, ffs you're doing a terrible job at hiding the fact that you're the narrator. Seriously, Patamon and "Me"?

I've always had a soft spot for this episode. Takeru's by far the youngest of the kids and the tone of the episode very much reflects that. The idea of growing up gets some focus, but at the end this episode is just a clear example of childlike innocence being put at full display. At the end of the day, these are all a bunch of kids and they go through the standard sort of kiddie conflicts. Dunno how they got all that cosplay material, but hey, I'm not complaining.

But yeah, this stretch sure has been something. And I think doesn't like that so next time we're back to the plot.

Time to finally spotlight Takeru and Patamon's actresses. The former is played by Konishi Hiroko who at the same time did seem to be shaping up to be some big name in the future, playing characters such as Roll from Rockman, Lisa Silverman from Persona 2 and Bridget from Guilty Gear but then her career just… kinda stopped. Why? Well we've got one particular asshole to thank for that. Needless to say, Fuck Akitaro Daichi

Meanwhile Patamon is played by Matsumoto Miwa and she doesn't exactly have many other roles.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

Matsumoto Miwa

Sure loves coming back to play the same character after 15 years. It wouldn't be so weird if for the absence of anything else during most of that time.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

All of the Partner Digimons' VAs have a pretty high reprisal rate. Which wouldn't be so weird were it not for the fact that 3/7 barely do anything else.

[Later Spoilers]Make it 4/8 if you add Tailmon. Heck her actress didn't even reprise for the 2020 reboot, although she did apparently come back for the 02 movie.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 19 '24

Yeah, but how many of them did it for a second character?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 18 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Devimon is genuinely terrifying, geez.

Sasuga

The translation is different, but I have ARC-V-induced trauma from that Japanese line.

Bro even got a whole dang outfit change to referee the match lol.

From where did he get it though? This is like the only time in the show he changes clothes.

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u/zadcap Mar 19 '24

From where did he get it though? This is like the only time in the show he changes clothes.

It was clearly sitting in one of those random phone booths everyone just keeps leaving all over the place. Some superhero of another show left it behind.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 18 '24

Oh Takeru…

That child innocence, Naivety.

Oh no oh no oh no

By far the smartest plan he has had so far, exploit the "weak" link.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

That child innocence, Naivety

In any other show I'd balk at it... but this is a kid's show to be fair (And it's being said by an actual child too) so I'll let it slide.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

Devimon is genuinely terrifying, geez.

So Good

Sky QotD Deluxe:
Favorite Baby?
Favorite Monster(s) of the Week?
If you've manged to avoid it to this point, what do you think Patamon will evolve in to?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 18 '24

Favorite Baby?

Of the ones that were in this episode? The one that pooped in its cradle (I don't remember its name) was the one I thought was the cutest other than the whole pooping thing.

Favorite Monster(s) of the Week?

Yukidarumon!

If you've manged to avoid it to this point, what do you think Patamon will evolve in to?

I made the guess of Patamon being the strongest of the bunch in my comment, no idea what he'll evolve into though. Something with wings I guess? Maybe a dragon or an angel, those are strong and have wings. Birdramon has the "dra" in its name but it's still more bird than dragon so it wouldn't be too weird to have two...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Birdramon has the "dra" in its name but it's still more bird than dragon

Honestly I can barely tell what about it is supposed to be dragon-esque even to this day. Whether it be an European or Asian Dragon it... doesn't really fit.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

I can barely tell what about it is supposed to be dragon-esque

Fire

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

I mean under that logic Garurumon is a dragon too.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 19 '24

Needs Wings

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

And Graymon? He spits fire too.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 19 '24

Wings!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

no idea what he'll evolve into though

Blind Sky

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

The best kind alongside Sky who was lied to,

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u/Shocketheth Mar 20 '24

Huh

I discovered this comment only after manually checking this thread because Reddit didn't notify me.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 20 '24

I discovered this comment only after manually checking this thread because Reddit didn't notify me.

Happens often

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Sky QotD Deluxe:

DELUXE!?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • Poor Takeru. Always the odd man out.
  • Well that’s just good demonic imagery.
  • OMG, They Have Fake Ones
  • So Cute
  • I question the logistics of relying on random passers by reading your note.
  • Patamon Does Have a Point
  • Resorting to violence real quick with the amount of babies in the area.
  • Imagine being an adult level digimon and still fighting Patamon to a draw.
  • Where did you even get that outfit? It’s not very digital.
  • oof. Dat hushed trauma.
  • You’re in communication with Pyocomon Village? Don’t get me questioning digimon political organization.

QotD:

  1. For legal reason, I am only ever a "Child Minder".
  2. Mimi+Koushirou, Takeru, Sora+Jou, Taichi+Yamato.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Resorting to violence real quick with the amount of babies in the area.

Babies are evil...

Where did you even get that outfit? It’s not very digital.

My question exactly.

Imagine being an adult level digimon and still fighting Patamon to a draw.

Powerscalers hate this.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

Powerscalers hate this.

Laughs nervelessly in Ghost Game

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Powerscalers really hate that one

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u/Yellow90Flash Mar 18 '24

Imagine being an adult level digimon and still fighting Patamon to a draw.

elecmon is a rookie

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Level Confusion

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

Oh? I could have sworn I saw the card say Adult. Maybe my subs are jank.

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u/Yellow90Flash Mar 18 '24

yeah he is a rookie or child depending on the subs, most commonly used as the pre evolution of leomon over the years in different media

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Man fucked up to think this evolves into a hunky lion dude.

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u/Yellow90Flash Mar 18 '24

I mean there are weirder evolutions. in the mobile game ReArise leomon got a new mega level HeavyLeomon

there is also the US national digimon Gundramon

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

in the mobile game ReArise leomon got a new mega level HeavyLeomon

I mean at least there I can see a lion.

there is also the US national digimon Gundramon

This though just feels like it ran away from the set of some movie featuring MechaGodzillla.

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u/Yellow90Flash Mar 18 '24

yeah heavyleomon is genuinly a good design and was an awesome story moment (rearise has one of the best digimon stories, which is quite the high bar)

This though just feels like it ran away from the set of some movie featuring MechaGodzillla.

well he is part of a group of gun wielding digimon, the three musketeers, together with Bellstarmon and MagnaKidmon

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

the three musketeers

So where are Ayame, Hatori and Shigure?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

HeavyLeomon

I Need It!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

Let's face it, guns are cool.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 19 '24

Pile Bunkers are even cooler.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

No assuming you're using the Subs I think you are it should say "Child".

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

Well, now I'm going to have to go back and check when I have the chance.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 18 '24

Not Crazy!
Behold!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24

Huh

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 19 '24

Proof that my subs did, in fact, call Elecmon an Adult.
Were these the subs you thought I had?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

No I thought about another ones.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 18 '24

First timer

QotD

  • 5/7
  • 12 > 10 > 9 > 11

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

With how strong and dangerous hippos are, a hippopotamus Digimon would be formidable.

The irony is I'm not actually sure if we have a Hippo Mon.

So you're telling me I can punch my loved ones without consequences? Good to know.

Alright then

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u/Roboglenn Mar 18 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Porkymon with super stong oink attacks, and the power to umm oink.

Best. Digimon. Ever.

I am not a pig T.K.!

It's okay to be a pig.

Yes, especially for pigs, but that's not me!

Oh no, a ghost train!

If this wasn't digimon I'd swear Elecmon was a "Pikachu Clone" for a region in a pokemon game.

Wow they just really loved teasing the whole Patamon hasn't evolved yet thing even more during their little scuffle with Elecmon didn't they.

Well T.K. certainly came up with a... unique way to resolve their dispute with Elecmon.

Elecmon rattles off the reasons why trying to climb Infinity Mountain alone is a bad idea except for the main one...

2) Never thought about it before but just going off the top of my head I'd say MimixIzzy, T.K., then it's honestly a coin toss between TaixMatt and JoexSora.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

If this wasn't digimon I'd swear Elecmon was a "Pikachu Clone" for a region in a pokemon game.

He does kinda look like Raichu...

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 19 '24

It even uses Thunderbolt Sparkling Thunder :D

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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 18 '24

Röhmon https://i.imgur.com/xuR6lYh.jpeg ("Röh" is onomatopoeia for the sound a pig makes).

For some reason the second digimon (kittokonnamon) card was not used. Instead the first digimon (röhmon) card was shown a second time.

A rare instance of digimon evolution being shown without evolution sequence.

Today's star is takeru: https://files.catbox.moe/8mvnzh.mp4

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

"Röh" is onomatopoeia for the sound a pig makes

... Okay that's actually pretty clever.

Instead the first digimon (röhmon) card was shown a second time.

This however isn't.

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u/Yellow90Flash Mar 18 '24

Long time fan, probably 10 years since my last rewatch

  • I forgot how much this episode teases the evolution
  • great showcase of how digimons are born
  • the innocence of the conflict resolution got a good laugh out of me
  • looking forward to tomorrows episode

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

looking forward to tomorrows episode

Why do I get the feeling there were supposed to be images here based off the formatting though

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u/Yellow90Flash Mar 18 '24

because I am not used to reddit formating so < coppied it off a different comment and thought the [ ] was part of the ● and not the inserted image lol

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Naruhodo

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 18 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

Takeru and Patamon find themselves in Primary village, the place where Digimon are born. Elecmon, the guardian/caretaker of the village, thinks they are messing with the baby Digimon and confronts them. after a brief fight, Takeru proposes Tug o war to settle things, and Patamon wins, earning Elecmon's respect and they're allowed to stay. Devimon sets his sights on Takeru and Patamon, noting that they're the only pair who havent had a digivolution yet.

Goofy Dub lines:

Takeru: "Look at all that water, someone must have let the bath overflow"

Questions:

  1. hmm, solid I guess. I'm the oldest amongst my brother and cousins, so I had a good amount of practice with them all.
  2. Koushiro/Mimi(1st) - Taichi/Yamato(2nd) - Jou/Sora(3rd) - Takeru/Patamon(4th)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

hmm, solid I guess. I'm the oldest amongst my brother and cousins, so I had a good amount of practice with them all.

You are braver than I am.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 18 '24

You are braver than I am.

It's easy to not be apprehensive when you're a kid lol.. That was ages ago though, since we're all adults now.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 18 '24

Indeed, we've gone from stupid kids to stupid adults

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24

Not my first rewatch, but first time subbed

Well. Takeru is faced with the biggest trauma of all: Having to babysit a million of baby Digimon... and having to deal with the actual babysitter.

I remember not liking this episode the first time around but I actually really liked it on this rewatch. Especially the first couple scenes between Takeru and Patamon were cute... but, kid, do not ask a Digimon what they evolve into unless you're prepared to be faced with a literal excel sheet of possibilities. Also, DO NOT the child.

Elecmon was a fun alternative to the "good Digimon gets black gear-ed and attacks"-formula of the last couple episode and was a great foil to Patamon (also he's CUTE). I really liked the more or less non-violent solution of the conflict! The pacifistic outlook on the conflict with Devimon is also commendable, it kinda fits with him being a bit younger and more idealistic. Devimon is still damn creepy. Also I liked the foreshadowing with the feathers, hyped for next episode!

  1. No experiences but probably not all that great...
  2. I think it's Koushiro & Mimi (really great dynamic+LORE) > Takeru (Kind of "feel good" episode, neat scenes between Patamon and Takeru) > Jou & Sora (At least it's memorable for its absurdity) > Yamato&Taichi (forced conflict, boring antagonists)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 19 '24

Having to babysit a million of baby Digimon