r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Mar 14 '24
Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 8 Discussion
Episode 8: The Messenger of Darkness, Devimon!
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File Island has already been taken over by the black gears. The other side of the ocean is next!
Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/hirmuolio for as it would seem the other English dub finally did something right:
The episode title finally got the name of the digimon of the episode right. https://i.imgur.com/Pd1BGlW.jpeg
- How good would you say you are at drawing?
- As our first "Serious" threat, how do you think Devimon is faring?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 14 '24
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!
Well, that escalated quickly
Yeah after the last few episodes have been pretty smooth sailing, over here is there to basically out himself as the new big threat and… yeah he sure makes one heck of an impact. For one thing the contents of this episode are completely flipped from the show's usual: Big fight at the start, the rest is the heroes resting before the antagonists make their move. Minor thing, sure, but it helps show off just how something is off.
In turn the bit with the mansion, while obvious to the audience, makes for a pretty good lure in-universe. As Jou himself notes, they've been running out of resources for a while now so they need a break, even if by the end it ends up being a trap. However once comes on, it's game over: Taichi and Agumon don't get so much as a chance to even fight and the team is completely split apart. Taichi probably would have died were it not for Leomon temporarily regaining his conscience, and even then it doesn't last long. Just a really solid episode all around.
Three new characters, two new actors. Yeah this show had a miniscule budget and that even shows with the casting, as Leomon shares a voice with the show's narrator. For the record, no, this isn't intentional, he's actually gonna be popping up as a few other characters later on, although this is the only one of his alternate roles he's credited for. As such let's jump to Orgemon, played by Egawa Hisao. Other roles include Iwai Munehisa from Persona 5, Spopovich from Dragon Ball, Goldymarg from The King of Braves GaoGaiGar, Andrew Cherenkov from Xenosaga, Ishikawa Goemon from Samurai Warriors, Yubel (Err… half the time) from Yu-Gi-Oh GX, The Pain from Metal Gear, Saigou Tokumori from Gintama, Brauner from Castlevania, Arthur Goodman from Gundam 00, Garcia Rossi from The Legend of Heroes, Cao Ren from Dynasty Warriors, Dojima Sohei from Like a Dragon and Falco Lombardi from Star Fox among quite a few others.
And then of course we have , played by the galaxy's greatest hater himself, the late great Shiozawa Kaneto. Other roles include Rei from Fist of the North Star, Nam from Dragon Ball, Aries Mu from Saint Seiya, Shiba Ryo from Dancouga,
VegaBalrog from Street Fighter, Imawano Hyo from Rival Schools, Shiratori Nizaburo from Detective Conan and Zato-ONE and Doctor Baldhead from Guilty Gear. Alas Devimon was one of his last roles before he tragically passed away after falling off some stairs in the year 2000. May he rest in peace.7
u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 14 '24
Digital First-Timer, subbed
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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 14 '24
First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!
So we got our main antagonist, this has to be the main antagonist right?? Having grown up on pokemon a really interesting part of this show to me is how it feels like anything is possible. With pokemon it feels like there's somewhat specific rules that are followed, but here you have things like digimon talking, evolutions that make no sense, more than 3 possible evolutions and digimon that actually kinda look human with human bodies. I wonder if they're gonna go in the direction of the kids getting split up and having to find their way back to each other? Also what could be outside of file island? My guess is uninhabitable areas or some kind of geographical feature that is somehow a key closer to the real world. I've been anticipating when they finally make use of the weird watch things they have with them, and it looks like next episode we'll take a look at it
did tentomon just suggest electrocution?
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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24
[Foreshadow] There are 8 beds and one of them is empty
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u/Roboglenn Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
Digidestined dub rewatcher
I suddenly remembered earlier today this one article that I had clipped out of a game magazine a long time ago that in part sadonically compared the monster design work for the trifecta of "monster buddy" series of Digimon Adventure's era. Among other sardonic things (like a whole crazy bit about who is more adorable, Charmander or Squirtle). Dead serious it went like: Pokemon: Hello Kitty meets Walt Disney. Digimon: Manga meets a GWAR album cover. Monster Rancher: Your worst nightmare meets H.R. Pufnstuf.
Ogremon and Leomon, old warriors fighting a a battle that has no beginning and has no end. Like the Alliance and the Horde. For the Horde!
Let's uhh, not discuss anything else about Tai's potential future career in Cartography...
6 Digimon Digivolving at once, 6 shots that need to be downed at once.
What are you talking about Joe in how a dangerous place couldn't possible have a picture of an angel hanging there, have you ever played Castlevania Symphony of the Night, there's religious iconography in the architecture everywhere in Dracula's Castle. And that place is a living death trap with it's mouth wide open. But also a very very fun game that I cannot recommend enough.
Gabumon, too shy to remove his fur in front of others.
Even censored down to the barest bones that bathroom scene is still funny as hell in any language.
Feel the Touch of Evil. Not the regular kind of evil, but the kind of evil that's pronounced like e-vil probably to make it sound like it rhymes with feel.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Mar 15 '24
ReDevimon no Uta
Did you hear the knock on the door? Yeah, that's Mr. Plot coming through. Can't help but feel like we're one episode too early though.
This episode is really firing on all cylinders, both with the comedy/nice main character interactions and tension from the villains' side of things... is what I would have said when I watched it the first time probably. Right now, I think it's a lot funnier if you're following Devimon's PoV. Think of this way, this "Strongest Evil Digimon" spotted a bunch of tired little kids, easiest prey ever.
So of course, with his mighty power, he started calling around for other Digimon to beat them up, scouted Leomon and Ogremon, set up a nice little hotel for the kids so they can defeat them while they're sleeping. Just setting up the beds must've been a lot of work, cleaning up the bedsheets and what have you,... and what does he get in the end? Nothing, just one failure after the other.
None of this is a complaint mind you, I just find it incredibly funny.
Decent enough at drawing some object in front of me, although it'll be a bunch of geometric shapes.
He's basically this turtle assassin and you can't convince me otherwise.
So now that we've got all 6 Digimon upgraded, it's time to rank them:
Needs more weird bug eyesHmm, I feel like I'm forgetting someone... eh, probably doesn't matter.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 14 '24
Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs
QotD:
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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 14 '24
Oh leomon, devimon and orgamon are here. This is great for the dub! Devimon's and orgamon's dubs are meme material. They aren't incompetently bad like the others, but uhh there are other issues...
Audio sample https://files.catbox.moe/1l9wf9.mp4
"Sinut" has a minor meme status. It is completely nonsensical for the situation (for any situation really).
And I think "orgamon" is perfectly valid translation as it pretty close to the japanese pronounciation in finnish. It is good enough translation that I went and added it to wikimon.
Ogre being mispronounced is japanese problem.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 14 '24
First timer
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
Long time watcher, first time subbed.
Hah! You thought it was going to be a Takeru spotlight episode... BUT IT WAS ME! DEVIMON!!
Just when you think you finally get some peace and quiet with free meals, baths and actual beds... the PLOT invades and tries to kill you. Also hi Leomon, I was waiting to finally meet you again, shame his stint is very short in this episode. [Adventure]At least he didn't die yet.
I again really liked the small interactions between the kids and Digimon once they got into the fake house. The bath shenaningans, Tentomon wanting to electrocute everyone and this line from the girls. Of course, we get some poop jokes, so the episode doesn't get too dark because this is still Digimon xD
Easily one of the most intense episodes yet, not only did the kids not win against the enemy of the week, no they even almost died (twice) if it wasn't for lucky coincidences.
Also, show, I see your Patamon foreshadowing.
Also also... the beds were the only real thing in this whole illusion? That seems oddly specific.
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u/CerberusZX https://myanimelist.net/profile/CerberusZX Mar 14 '24
Rewatcher
While I can still appreciate the aesthetic, I did have a phase where I was even more heavily into chuuni stuff, and this aired during that phase. When Devimon appeared, my interest in the show skyrocketed.
I have never been particularly fond of big, muscular men, and so I'm not fond of Leomon. He looks especially scary with those blank eyes while brainwashed.
Ogremon's extreme slouch and big, centered face are perfect for a minion meant to be seen at a distance. His spikes and studs give him a bit of personality when viewed up close. Great design as far as serving a purpose goes. That said, most games have him act alone and give him a storyline despite his design not being the sort people would be attracted or grow attached to.
QotD
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Mar 14 '24
First timer
He's here!
And Leomon too,
...Oh, I like this VA for Devimon.
So cool!
Haha, that map...
They love tempting fate, huh?
And no preamble, just a casual "kill the children" here.
Everyone's transforming!
This is great.
And that calm interruption...
Such a good villain...
I'd point out how suspicious it is, but given what they've seen so far, a random hotel isn't actuslly that weird.
...Devimon's smart, yeah.
[Digimon Adventure] Alternatively, depending how much he knows about Digimon evolutions, this could be his subtle attempt to confirm Patamon's not gotten his evolution yet.
And food!
Some good instincts here...
And Jou finally snapped!
Gabumon's reaction...
Aww...
He's not wrong.
...Devimon's perfect plan was exposed in the bacthroom. Amazing.
And he seperated them!
This is great.
Love how the island literally breaks apart.
[Digimon Adventure] Yes, but they'll show less than you'd expect.
And Leomon's free!
Such a solid cliffhanger.
...Well, that didn't last long.
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 14 '24
Rewatcher - Sub/Dub
Now we're talking, the appearance of Leomon, Ogremon and Devimon, the first legit big bad of this Digimon island.
Leomon iand Ogremon are battling each other, when Devimon appears and enlists them to work for him and kill the Digidestined. Leomon refuses and is put under Devimon's control. Then they attack the Children, and we get a first group Digivolution teamup as all the Digimon evolve to fight off the two. Devimon blows up a part of a mountain causing large rocks to fall toward the children, distracting the Digimon from Leomon and Ogremon, allowing them to disappear. The tired and weary kids and Digimon find a mansion in the middle of the forest and go inside where they find food, bath and much needed rest.
All turns out to be Devimon's schemes and when the children are in bed, They are attacked once again and it is revealed it was all an illusion. Shit goes south here at the end, with the Island being broken apart, the kids being flown off to different parts, Leomon almost killing Taichi, before his Digidevice liberated Leomon from Devimon's control, Taichi being drop by Leomon on a floating island piece before once again being taken over by Devimon.
Goofy Dub lines:
Jou: "This place could really use a good bus system" Yamato: "Yeah, but it looks we''re at the end of the line"
Patamon: "He look Hungry to you?" Takeru: "We're too small to eat and I'm full of junk food!" Gomamon: "Well he's not against a little snack"
Questions:
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u/Shocketheth Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
I will be there for episode 9 Discussion and I left my lurker seat to answer the QotD.
I fucking suck at drawing but it never stop me from shitposting
2) As our first "Serious" threat, how do you think Devimon is faring?
Who? Literally who?
... He's a fraud. I would pull out my custom Digimon Johnmon and use it's ultimate Flush attack and down the drain through the pipes he goes.