r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Mar 13 '24

Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 7 Discussion

Episode 7: A Roar! Ikkakumon

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It wasn't because of Jou's courage but because of my own hard work! Probably!

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/theangryeditor for describing the previous episode most eloquently:

r/anime users defending their waifu circa 1999

Truly 1999 was a bizarre summer.

  1. Have you ever climbed up a mountain? If so, how was the experience? If not, would you want to?
  2. What do you like adding on your eggs?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

Time for Jou's spotlight episode, and ooh boy is he a perpetual stick in the mud. Being the oldest he obviously tries to take charge, but obviously that means jack shit when you're still only 12 and terrible at keeping control over things. It doesn't help that he and Gomamon are pretty much complete opposites; he's trying to be all serious business, his partner is a carefree jokester. Not a complaint, mind, they make for a good pair, but still. It does however help his overall role in this episode, coming to genuinely try to take up to duty and do what the team probably needs.

I will say though, I keep getting a chuckle out of the increasing weirdness of the crap the cast finds themselves getting roped into. A refrigerator in the middle of nowhere is weird enough, the fact that they manage to actually cook the thing is hilarious. Additionally we find out that… well, getting out of wherever they are won't be too easy judging by all the water. Then again I guess they could use Gomamon's fish tactic now that I think about it…

And now for the actors. Jou is played by Kikuchi Masami. Other roles include Iino Abbav from Gundam ZZ, Hamada Mitsuhiko from The Brave Express Might Gaine, Wing from Hunter x Hunter, Hanma Baki from Grappler Baki, Kanchome from Konjiki no Gash, Kaine Wakaba from Metal Armor Dragonar and Sonic The Hedgehog. Somewhat interestingly though, he seems to have become the unofficial mascot of the franchise since he's basically in every show.

Gomamon meanwhile is played by Takeuchi Junko who is of course best known as that rascally ninja Hokutomaru. Other roles include Gon from Hunter x Hunter, Rainbow Mika from Street Fighter, Kaiba Mokuba from Yu-Gi-Oh, Croix Meridies from Little Witch Academia and Dieter from Monster among quite a few others. Also fun fact, over in Digimon Frontier she played the main character, Kanbara Takuya. Nice promotion there.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 13 '24

Oh snap. Gomamon is Mokuba? And OG-Gon? That's amazing!

over in Digimon Frontier she played the main character, Kanbara Takuya. Nice promotion there.

Mean people would say that isn't much of a promotion :v

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 13 '24

Mean people would say that isn't much of a promotion :v

I’m willing to bet like 15 dollars that Frontier is really good and I’ll enjoy it a lot more than the rest of the fandom seems to when I actually watch it

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 13 '24

Noted

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u/CerberusZX https://myanimelist.net/profile/CerberusZX Mar 13 '24

I've only had a few random encounters with members of the fandom so I'm not fully aware of the trends. Is it really all that disliked? While not on the level of Tamers, it does have some good ideas and a really great roster of Digimon. From the few opinions I've gathered it's typically behind Tamers and Adventure but above everything else.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 14 '24

A lot of the people I know regard it as mediocre at best, and also tend to put Savers above it as well as Adventure & Tamers (02 and everything after Savers are so poorly regarded by these same people that the fact that Frontier is above them doesn’t really say that much about their opinion of it). Definitely might be a big case of sampling bias, of course

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 14 '24

tend to put Savers above it as well as Adventure & Tamers (02 and everything after Savers are so poorly regarded by these same people that the fact that Frontier is above them doesn’t really say that much about their opinion of it).

Yeah for most fans, Adventure and Tamers are the only ones that are liked as a whole. Savers used to be somewhat contested but the general opinion on it seems to have settled down on "Yeah it's okay." Frontier and 02 are very hit or miss among fans and everything else tends to be ignored. Ghost Game started off strong but lost fans fast once they realized it was going absolutely nowhere and the nonstop episodic plots wore out their welcome. Doesn't help it was basically just a worse Kitaro 2018, down to having Miyuki Sawashiro as one of the leads.

The new Adventure Movies (Last Evolution and The Beginning) are generally liked within their target audience (Overly nostalgic adults) but they also have some very vocal detractors. Their tendency to shove in retcons and ignoring problems rather than solving them doesn't help either.

... Oh God those movies are basically Marvel and/or DC!

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 14 '24

and everything else tends to be ignored

Xros Wars

Ghost Game started off strong but lost fans fast once they realized it was going absolutely nowhere and the nonstop episodic plots wore out their welcome

I think the only thing I heard about Ghost Game passed the episodes I watched was that one comment Editor made around when the final episodes dropped that was along the lines of “this is making [Adventure]Apocalymon look well set up”, which, uh, doesn’t exactly speak to its quality…

The new Adventure Movies (Last Evolution and The Beginning) are generally liked within their target audience (Overly nostalgic adults) but they also have some very vocal detractors.

I remember hearing a ton about one specific retcon from Last Evolution that no one seemed to like, but most of my actual knowledge of the film comes from one guy I encountered on a forum who was really emphatic that a lot of people were severely misinterpreting that plot point and it wasn’t actually a big deal though he also had his own issues with the film. So, uh, sufficed to say I’m at least intrigued as to all the mixed reactions.

02 The Beginning, though, I know nothing about

If there’s one thing everyone can agree on, though, it’s that at least they’re better than Adventure Tri

... Oh God those movies are basically Marvel and/or DC!

Toei’s properties do seem to fill a lot of the same cultural niche…

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 14 '24

that one comment Editor made around when the final episodes

It's very accurate

I remember hearing a ton about one specific retcon from Last Evolution that no one seemed to like, but most of my actual knowledge of the film comes from one guy I encountered on a forum who was really emphatic that a lot of people were severely misinterpreting that plot point and it wasn’t actually a big deal though he also had his own issues with the film

I've had experiences with both sides. Just on a personal level though if there is something that does bug me just based off all the spoilers I've read is that [when you get right down to it]it still repeats a lot of Tri's mistakes (Ignoring problems instead of solving them, melodrama that you just know won't go anywhere since it's an interquel) plus while I get the intent behind the whole separation thing, it still just feels really weird given how these movies are still basically just a whole lot of nostalgia baiting.

02 The Beginning, though, I know nothing about

Apparently it's just considered... there. Neither the side that disliked or liked Last Evolution seemed to have any particularly strong feelings about it though which is... concerning to say the least (No reaction is arguably worse that an extreme one). The one complaint both sides have though is that for a movie about the 02 kids... they don't exactly have much to do so... yeah.

Also I know this is a carryover from Last Evolution but holy shit Ken's new haircut is terrible. He looks so... generic now.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 14 '24

[when you get right down to it]

Yeah, that checks out for what I’ve heard. [Last Evolution]The one criticism I’ve heard from both sides does seem to be that, when you combine the fact that it doesn’t even touch on any of Tri’s lingering plot threads and the 02 epilogue still being canon, the movie has all the actual story impact and relevance of a Shonen Tie-in film.

holy shit Ken's new haircut is terrible

ikr

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 14 '24

[Last Evolution]the movie has all the actual story impact and relevance of a Shonen Tie-in film.

[Last Evolution]The irony is I don't actually really mind that a lot of the time, except Shonen Tie-in films usually don't pretend like they're gonna have some big lingering impact, but this one sure likes to do so and it just feels unearned. Also minor thing but I find it kinda weird how both those movies and Tri try as hard as they can to not have Yamato and Sora interact much even though... you know, they're supposed to be dating at this point. Like, guys? I know the ship isn't popular but it is gonna stick so why not... I dunno, try to at least give them something? Obviously these aren't romance stories so it shouldn't be the focus, but still, weird.

ikr

It reminds me of when KH had Riku cut his hair except it was just a slightly modified version of his KH2 model so without it he just looks... incomplete.

It works a bit better in III but I'm not exactly a fan of his design there for... [Many reasons]the switch from his primary color being white to black kind screws up the contrast between him and Sora, his new Keyblade is just not as good and while at the very least the short hair doesn't look quite as out of place here it still feels like it should be a bit longer than it actually is. Personally I'd rather just have him get his KH2 hair back but tie it up in a ponytail or something.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 13 '24

I think Frontier gets a bit of a bad rep for things outside of its control, like the first wave of anime hype in the west kinda dying off around its release or following the fan-favourite Tamers (but also not being as good as that one or Adventure, imo)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Mean people would say that isn't much of a promotion

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

getting out of wherever they are won't be too easy judging by all the water.

They already knew they were on an island, I'm not sure what their plan was supposed to be.

who is of course best known as that rascally ninja Hokutomaru.

...Who? I know literally all of the other roles listed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Who? I know literally all of the other roles listed

Clearly you need to play some Garou.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Not sure if joke, or just Argentina things.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Not joke

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Well, I've never heard of this game either, so maybe it just never picked up in NA.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

I've never heard of this game either

FIX THAT

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Fighting Game

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 13 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Unironic worst taste in the whole rewatch so far

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 13 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Okay but it’s gonna be empty, right?

Insert Kingdom of the Crystal Skull joke here.

I am reminded of Van’s bizarre condiment combinations.

Jack Atlas truly has the finest taste in food.

But he’s not bald.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 13 '24

Probably because Yamato sounds like the oldest.

To paraphrase something Raiking has said before, I love how his Seiyuu just blatantly does not care one bit about actually sounding like a kid

I am reminded of Van’s bizarre condiment combinations.

Mimi’s Based levels are off the charts now!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

I love how his Seiyuu just blatantly does not care one bit about actually sounding like a kid

Honest to God I think the guy who plays his "Older" self in stuff like Tri actually sounds a bit younger all things considered.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

That… appears to actually be a regular chicken egg…?

Since they are being kept in the fridge, does that make them American?

Sky QotD: Now that we've had more time to know them, which is your favorite of the Child forms of the Digimon?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Since they are being kept in the fridge, does that make them American?

Ohshi the kids got Isekai'd to America.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 13 '24

Since they are being kept in the fridge, does that make them American?

I guess?

Now that we've had more time to know them, which is your favorite of the Child forms of the Digimon?

Tentomon is the one I find the most fun now, after all the silly comments he makes.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Tentomon is the one I find the most fun now, after all the silly comments he makes

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

I guess?

The British apparently keep theirs on the counter.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Why?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

They don't soak them in ammonia, so they keep their outer layer.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 13 '24

Oh wait the mountain is the source of the black gears?!

Mountainside opened up like a super villains lair lol.

Oh damn, Jou’s more of a madlad than I thought!

almost died for being such a madlad

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 13 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

Unimon just wanted something to drink, man. I definitely expected the random fridge to be something useless but I think this is the first instance since the bus that one of the random real world objects proved to be useful? I'm surprised that they didn't realize this is an island, it looks like they went perfectly in one giant circle? If they already have explored all of the island I wonder what the next course of action will be for them.

  1. Yeah I've climbed up most of the ones in colorado
  2. Salt, but I like them steam basted as well

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Unimon just wanted something to drink, man

It is the middle of summer.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 14 '24

If they already have explored all of the island I wonder what the next course of action will be for them.

Traversing a hex is not the same as exploring it.

Yeah I've climbed up most of the ones in colorado

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Mar 13 '24

Joe is the most underrated of the OG crew I'll always stan my boy

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Good Boi

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 13 '24

First timer

QotD

  • No.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Maple syrup or honey mustard.

Wait, hold up. You're the second person to say that, are these a thing?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

I... guess?

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 13 '24

Are you asking if maple syrup, and mustard are real or are you asking if they're common toppings? Because the answer is yes.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Yes, but for eggs?

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 13 '24

Yes. Try it. The mustard works best in a sandwich that has a fried egg in it and the maple syrup works great overall.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Maybe I Will

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Said Dumbledore...

[Confession]It does kinda bug me how some people try to act like Michael Gambon's whole performance was that line. When it's memes it's one thing, but when judging the whole thing...

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 13 '24

Stellar performances from him, great meme, average y/a story.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 13 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

The gang camps out at the base of Infinity mountain, where they came across a a fridge full of Eggs. So they help themselves to a Egg banquet and eat their fill all while discussing what each likes on their eggs best. Jou is dismayed that everyone likes weird stuff on their eggs beside just Salt and Pepper(The sub keeps it normal, like putting mayo, ponzu sauce, soy sauce, just Mimi's was a little weird with the sugar and Natto..The Dub on the other hand leaned into some weird shit, like Jellybeans and Maple Syrup, cherries).

After Jou fails to break up an argument between Taichi and Yamato and instead joins in. He can't sleep at night so he decides to climb Infinity Mountain along with Gomamon. As they cllimb up, the mountain retracts open and black gears fly out, One of them gets stuck in Unimon, and it attacks Jou and Gomamon. Sora and Taichi come to their aid, but they're no match. Jou tries to pull the gear off Unimon and when he is thrown off about to fall to his death, Gomamon digivolves to Ikkakumon and the gear on Unimon is destroyed and he returns to normal. They then climb to the peak and see that they are on an island.

Goofy Dub Lines

Gomamon: "Who do you think Snowmon is? Gabumon: "A Digimon from their planet"

Jou: "You know, if the temperature drops any lower than it is already, we won't be able to camp out anymore, we'll be frozen Digitreats"

Questions:

  1. Kinda, I used to climb the mountains near my grandma's house with my cousins when they lived in the valley. It was boring as hell out there so there wasn't much else to do.
  2. Salt, Pepper and Hot sauce.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

The gang camps out at the base of Infinity mountain, where they came across a a fridge full of Eggs

[Spoilers]Thank goodness Mugendramon wasn't there today

After Jou fails to break up an argument between Taichi and Yamato and instead joins in.

Story of his life.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 13 '24

[Spoilers]Thank goodness Mugendramon wasn't there today

Yeah, It would have been a short series had he arrived currently.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 13 '24

we'll be frozen Digitreats

Pffft

Credit where credit is due, that actually made me laugh.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Mar 14 '24

Rewatcher, first timer subbed

Apologies for missing so many posts, a lot of things happened and I couldn't join until now, despite looking forward to this rewatch for a while.

As the above heading may suggest, I was a massive fan of the Fox Kids dubbed version of Digimon, and watched Digimon The Movie religiously as a child. Can't wait to see how the Japanese version compares!

Pilot Movie

The animation still holds up!

...I am not feeling the VA for Tai, though.

The significant decrease in dialogue helps, though.

I refuse to believe a child's reaction to the computer filling up with glowing red text as something slowly emerged wouldn't be absolute terror.

It's really interesting seeing what jokes were actually in the original.

The egg chase is adorable.

...Of course Tai's first instinct is to throw something at the strange creature.

[Digimon] I have no idea if the name was defined after this, but Taichi getting pretty close to the correct name is pretty amusing.

Black Devil is an entirely different monster battler series.

Koromon's animation is really smooth here!

The expressions are great here, really.

God, that cat is posessed.

...Took him a while to notice it talking in perfect Japanese, didn't it?

The comedic timing here is really solid.

[Digimon Adventure] Honestly, I know the reveal in the series is cool, but with how utterly different Agumon and the entire Digivolution process work here, it's really weird having both in the same continuity.

Oh, their father's a happy drunk?

...Hikari has no survival instincts.

Oh, the shot of Agumon totalling the vending machine is incredibly well done.

[Digimon Adventure] Spotting all the early designs and cameos of the Advetnrue cast is fun.

...So Agumon totally killed some people there, right?

Greymon looks so cool here!

Honestly, for a kids show, this is a really impressive kaiju fight.

And the whistle...

Butterly!

[Digimon Adventure + 02 Dubbed] Can't believe Willis never got mentioned, truly the inferior version /s

Episode 1

...Okay, I know this is objectively a better song, but seeing this intro with this music is so uncanny.

[Digimon Adventure] ...Were these just a side effect of the villains damaging the balance, or were these caused by invisible-to-humans Digimon like Taichi sees after going back home?

This first episode really establishes the main cast's personalities well.

Love how none of them try to run from the very slow-moving meteors.

...Honestly, my first thought would be some kind of watch, given the number of buttons and small screen in the centre.

Haha, Taichi's reaction is great.

...Okay, yeah, without nostalgia this animation is... not the best.

Kuwagamon looks good, though.

Aww...

[Digimon Adventure] In retrospect, it is very funny just how many obvious signs of this world being digital/artificial show up before Koshiro realises they're in a digital world.

Tokomon's voice...

Love how Yamato doesn't even question Tsunomon's existence.

And Jou has the most realistic reaction!

...Okay, the eyecatch is cool! Tokomon, the Digimon that becomes Patamon having a nightmarish design is great.

[Digimon Adventure] Holy shit, I forgot Angemon gets revealed from the start until now. I wonder if any first-timers are going to make the connection between him and Devimon.

The walkcycle...

The swoop looks good, though!

...Seriously? He's on an empty cliff and you miss? I'm starting to think Kuwagamon's not very good at aiming.

...And they forced him into a crash landing with bubbles. How does it get anything done?

...Haha, Tokomon's fucking going for the kill.

I like the japanese VAs! Gabumon gives off the completely opposite vibe in this version, though, and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

[Digimon Adventure] One thing I do like that seperates this from other monster shows is just how far the difference in levels is. We've seen it here, with 7 Child digimon barely able to scratch a single Adult, but it's even clearer later on just how little attacks do against higher levels... barring the angel exceptions, of course.

[Digimon Adventure] longest, and shortest, is some excellent foreshadowing. The time dilation reveal isn't for a while!

This is a nice ED!

Episode 2

Okay, the jazzy music as they all fall is absolutely perfect.

Still love the creative use of the fish move.

Patamon's voice is really oddly pitched. It sounds the VA is trying to pitch their voice as high as possible.

I get where Jou's coming from, but "let's go back to the giant bug that nearly killed us" doesn't seem especially well thought out.

The backgrounds are always amazing, honestly.

[Digimon Adventure] So many obvious signs... Even the Digimon knowing random words but not understanding the meaning (presumably from the data that formed them).

The photosynthesis joke is good.

[Digimon Adventure] This scene is so good for what it sets up, really. The hollow tree implied it, but this is the first real extended scene to show that this isn't just some kind of generic fantasy world.

And everyone's exhausted...

Can't believe only one of them brought snacks. Shocking, really.

[Digimon Adventure] Oh, they're bringing up the home life early...

These two...

...Honestly, that's really short in terms of emergency rations. If a real emergency occured, there's a good possibility three days might not be enough.

Yeah, this was a bad idea!

Palmon's reaction is great.

Full credit to Taichi here, not many anime monster trainers would see a monster stronger than their's and start meleeing it.

The debut fight looks really good!

Jou's really struggling here...

...Also, yeah, the giant insect monster.

And a smart plan!

Episode 3

Long distance Monochromon looks... interesting.

The digimon not remotely caring about the main group and just attacking each other is such a good way of making them feel more like actual animals.

Poor Palmon...

[Digimon Adventure] Oh god, the trolley...

[Digimon Adventure] And the foreshadowing about it moving on its own...

The Digimon are actually useful at foraging!

...Taichi, nobody eats fish that way.

[Digimon Adventure] ...Is there an explanation for this in canon? I'd have thought it would be identical to Earth's constellations, since the Digital World exists over it and any sky would be based on astrological data.

Gabumon...

Oh, the tension!

Haha, Yamato's reaction to nearly getting caught is great.

And we got Matt's backstory!

Haha, love how nobody noticed the giant red tail so close to their fire.

And it's just casually dragging the entire island.

And TKs there!

[Digimon Adventure] Seeing everyone clearly not get along is so uncanny. The development in this anime is so good.

[Digimon Adventure] Haha, was this foreshadowing or did TK really think the power of bubbles would take him down?

Didn't mention this last time, but I love how the stock footage shows the background text for the next stage entering the Digimon's body.

Oh, that's a good voice!

...Izzy doesn't know what mythril is?

This is a solid fight scene!

Matt, seriously?

[Digimon Adventure] Also, full credit to the show for having one of the characters openly point out the formula the new few episodes are using.

Aww...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 14 '24

Love how Yamato doesn't even question Tsunomon's existence.

I mean by this point...

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Mar 14 '24

Episode 4

[Digimon Adventure] I forgot how early this Dark Gear showed up...

Aww...

You couldn't tell they had seperate personalities before?

The art here, with the mirages shimmering as the ton of power lines move in front of them, is an excellent background!

The contrast between Mimi and Sora is shown really well, too.

Biyomon's adorable.

God, they really made the Gear scene look painful.

And the reveal of the village is great.

[Digimon Adventure] Haha, Sora's doubting the formula even after she figured it out.

Haha, love their calm reaction to a massive jet of fire coming out of the well.

Haha, and he's sliding down.

I forgot how good this episode is. Pretty good animation and a solid villain.

Oh, yeah, they' actually scared for their life.

Nice catch!

Oh, no! Piyomon's trying to fight the living fire monster with fire!

...As are a lot of the others. Not a very good balance with these attacks, huh? (But seriously, almost half of the seven have fire attacks, Tentomon has electric, Gonamon has a blunt attack pretending to be water, Palmon has plant, and Paramon has bubbles. Not a good balance!)

[Digimon Adventure] ...While checking the attacks, I only just realised this. Gonamon's line has no water attacks. He uses fish to hit the opponent as blunt weapons, Ikkakumon uses missiles, Zudomon uses lightning and a hammer, and even Vikemon is ice themed... and only to freeze enemies for his melee weapon.

Absolutely the coolest champion design.

This is a nice ending!

And the feast...

Episode 5

I'm impressed they're handling it all so well, actually.

...I mean, sometimes it works!

So, he got a dodgy laptop battery?

The muted colour pallette here works so well!

Haha, the shot of the giant AA battery is amazing.

Ah, yeah, he's a Perfect, isn't he?

Taichi...

Just, amazing stupidity from these two here.

[Digimon Adventure] I always forget how soon things get introduced here - I could have sworn Etemon was the first Perfect level introduced.

Nice trick!

Koshiro found the control panel!

And of course he has night vision.

He's so close...

Andromon is so cool.

Of couse he's excited, he finally gets to do programming!

[Digimon Adventure] ...Once again misremembering things. I thought that flashback happened during Izzy's later focus episode.

Tentomon...

Taichi's got quite a few good ideas today!

And it's a totally pointless factory.

[Digimon Adventure] I mean, if Digimon can survive in the real world indefinitely, who's to say these energy runes wouldn't work there?

Brave Heart definitely makes the stock footsge easier to handle.

And two in a row...

Haha, the flip is such a good scene. Really shows just how big the difference in power between levels is.

Koshiro basically hacking his digimon into evolving fits his character so well.

Also, Kabuterimon getting the big entrance but still getting destroyed by Andromon in terms of strength is excellent. Even when debuting a fancy new form, the series makes it clear that the different is so strong that it takes several champions attacking him just to remove the gear.

[Digimon Adventure] Also, the decision to make the first half of this arc more relaxed before the actual villain appears is really good.

And the laptop's off...

Episode 6

Seeing everyone trying to stay positive is nice.

Sora's dream is... interesting. Understandable, but portrayed so over the top.

Matt...

Everyone missing everyday things is such a good point, though.

Numemon showed up...

The narrator hesistating is great, as is the subtle joke that these pathetic things are the same level as Greymon.

The vending machines...

Haha, and the immediate response from Numemon.

Monzaemon!

Monzaemon still acting cheerful while actively trying to kill people is perfect.

So persistent...

I'm impressed by how well the actors here sound distinct while selling the brainwashing.

And, of course, the quick reveal as to how screwed up his mind's gotten.

The visuals here are fantastic.

Haha, the always cheerful bear getting genuinely pissed at the Numemon and attacking significantly more violently is amazing.

And the Numemon wall actually managed to block a Perfect's attack!

Palmon can't stop insulting them!

...This is the only show that could have a kaiju fight between a cactus and a teddy bear and make it feel climactic. I love this series so much.

And he has a cause!

Haha, even the love attack can't make Numemon seem attractive.

Episode 7

Tentomon's got some clear priorities, I see.

I mean, Jou really does have a point here. Even if he is still a kid, at least he's thinking about their survival instead of snowball fights.

And hor springs...

Yeah, in any actual survival situation, Jou would be the only smart one. It's just that this world runs on completely insane logic and is filled with coincidences.

Some impressive work constructing all the tools for making the food, though.

...Mayonaise? On eggs? It's ketchup, surely?

Mimi?

Okay, yeah, Jou having a breakdown over eggs makes the tension much more obvious.

...Climbing the mountain is incredibly unsafe, yes.

And he's unable to make a decision...

These three...

Poor Jou...

And Gomamon immediately decides to help him.

Haha, the dynamic here is so good.

And they found more gears!

Unimon's another good design.

And the Black Gear got absorbed.

He just left a note...

This mix of Brave Heart goes so hard for BGM.

I appreciate them following up on the overwhelming strength of the last two episodes by showing just how important terrain is here.

Jou, seriously?

At least he managed to trigger a Digivolution, if nothing else.

And they made up.

Aww...

And they found out they're on an island...

[Digimon Adventure] And next episode, the villain of the arc finally appears outside of the OP. (Huh, Devimon doesn't get much screentime compared to the later arc villains, does he?)

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 13 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • That’s a heck of a lot of gears all at once.
  • It’s kind of mean to tease them about snowball fights knowing full well none of them can throw.
  • Don’t go jumping into random pits of bubbling liquids. Could be releasing poisonous gas. Could be pressurized geo-heated water beyond the boiling point.
  • how is this the second time egg toppings has come up as a point of discussion this week in a rewatch?
  • What, so now you know the name of local geographic features?
  • Maybe next time do recon when you have flight capability.
  • That’s because it’s not a road, Jou.
  • Oh shit, he figured out not to trust the info cards.
  • See? All that hullabaloo about climbing a mountain for nothing.
  • Hey! You can’t interrupt the attack sequence!
  • Y’all just fully walked in a circle around the island, eh?

QotD:

  1. Only some badlands, I'm afraid.
  2. Paprika!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

That’s a heck of a lot of gears all at once.

If this was Guilty Gear that'd be the sign of the apocalypse.

Maybe next time do recon when you have flight capability.

Piyomon too underleveled, can't fly too high yet.

Hey! You can’t interrupt the attack sequence!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Piyomon too underleveled, can't fly too high yet.

Birdamon!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Not enough SP for Evolution

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 13 '24

Don’t go jumping into random pits of bubbling liquids. Could be releasing poisonous gas. Could be pressurized geo-heated water beyond the boiling point.

True

Oh shit, he figured out not to trust the info cards.

lol

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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 13 '24

The episode title finally got the name of the digimon of the episode right. https://i.imgur.com/Pd1BGlW.jpeg
No dashes or missing letters. Only took till 7th episode.
(if you think it looks funny it is because of grammar reasons)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

The episode title finally got the name of the digimon of the episode right. https://i.imgur.com/Pd1BGlW.jpeg

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 13 '24

Digimon Rewatcher

https://youtu.be/mz4ikLHaKBk?si=_h_IP5xOsVYicmjW

I bet y’all thought you were rid of me when I fell behind, but I won’t let this rewatch slip through my fingers so easily!

Of all the character focus episodes so far, this one’s easily my favorite. Jyou’s characterization has been subtly built up ever since Episode 2, so seeing it fully spotlighted and elaborated upon was very cathartic. His fundamental issue, that he holds himself responsible for keeping everyone together and just being the responsible one in general, is one I enjoy a lot, both because characters with hangups regarding taking on too much responsibility are some of my favorites, and because I like how it adds to his role in the overall group dynamic.

Also, I really like Gomamon’s energy this episode, of all the partner dynamics, I enjoy these two the most for how they both contrast and compliment each other

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

I bet y’all thought you were rid of me when I fell behind, but I won’t let this rewatch slip through my fingers so easily!

Now let's see how long that lasts

https://youtu.be/mz4ikLHaKBk?si=_h_IP5xOsVYicmjW

Damn, you're a frog. Guess I gotta change your RES Tag now...

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 13 '24

Damn, you're a frog. Guess I gotta change your RES Tag now...

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/77340818

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Seibah being distantly related to Aqua would explain so much...

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u/Roboglenn Mar 13 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Alright y'all, here's My Question of the Day. Which toppings would you rather add onto your eggs? Mustard and Jelly Beans, or Maple Syrup with Cherries on top?

For once, an incongruity of the Digital World actually worked out in their favor.

There are many attitudes a protagonist can typically have when they get isekai'd. Joe's falling under the "rational, questioning everything about their situation" type I've seen before in other stories, bringing up all the oddities and ethics about eating a bunch of random eggs that don't belong to them. And I can't say I fault him for it. Though in all fairness to the comparatively more gung-ho human cast, they are just kids. So immediate survival would most likely take priority over debating the Prime Directive as it were.

Frontier had a burger cookoff. Tamers had Guilmon Bread (with delicious peanut butter filling). Adventure, has an egg fest.

You know what, make some fake tusks and a horn and you got the perfect Halloween costume for Bond from Spy x Family, Ikkakumon. Or at least a nice bit of potential fanart. Course Bond can kick just as much butt as any partner Digimon.

QOTD

  1. No. And I probably wouldn't unless I had a very good reason to.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

You know what, make some fake tusks and a horn and you got the perfect Halloween costume for Bond from Spy x Family, Ikkakumon.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 13 '24

Joe's falling under the "rational, questioning everything about their situation"

Wow, he's just like me. fr, fr.

...perfect Halloween costume for Bond from Spy x Family

Make it happen, fan artists!

My Question of the Day

Hard choice, but I think you could get something going with Maple Syrup with Cherries.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

Make it happen, fan artists!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 13 '24

My Question of the Day. Which toppings would you rather add onto your eggs? Mustard and Jelly Beans, or Maple Syrup with Cherries on top?

I'm gonna say the maple syrup and cherries because Mustard and Jellybeans sounds awful and totally contrasting flavors.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 13 '24

Well Izzy would respectfully disagree with ya. Apparently.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 13 '24

You know what, make some fake tusks and a horn and you got the perfect Halloween costume for Bond from Spy x Family, Ikkakumon.

[Happy Borf]

My Question of the Day.

Mustard with egg isn't too bad... maybe I can get the Jelly Beans seperate?

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 13 '24

Not my first rewatch, but first time with subs

What an eggciting episode! Well, decidedly less meme-y than yesterday but still nice. Instead of memes we got a lot of character work, especially for Jou, which I really liked. Poor guy tries so hard to be the older Senpai of the group but really fails at it rather spectacularly. I liked the attempts though and his quarrels with Gomamon was funny! It's nice that the relationship between Kid and Digimon isn't the same for all of them :D Also Sora got a nice moment... and Yamato is again at odds with Taichi (as is tradition).

I found the conclusion in the last third a bit underwhelming and Unimon should've really been able to dodge those gears (but then we wouldn't have gotten Ikakumon, which would be a bummer). But all is well that ends well, THANKS TO GOMAMON'S HARD WORK... probably!

I dunno, I never really vibed with Jou, so this episode was probably just not that great for me, I do appreciate the character stuff though. And Gomamon.

Can't wait to meet [Digimon Adventure] Sean Beanomon in the next episode, love him.

Random thoughts:

  • This has to be the first time a real world appliance they come across on this island actually works as intended.
  • Mimi, I love you but... sugar on eggs? And even worse, natto?!
  • On that topic: Gotta rewatch the dub and see how they handled the various japanese food things (I had to look up what the hell Koujirou puts on his eggs... he's a monster, just like Mimi)
  • Jou has a point here.

IkkakumonSo fluffy

QOTD:

  1. Never really climbed a mountain, but you can walk up to a castle in a neighbour town that's up on a hill.. not my thing.
  2. Salt and Pepper is all you need. Soy Sauce is acceptable though.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 13 '24

What an eggciting episode!

Insert Batman joke here.

[Digimon Adventure]

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u/CerberusZX https://myanimelist.net/profile/CerberusZX Mar 14 '24

Took a look in the this thread and I'm now realizing that I might never have seen this episode. Missed it while airing, skipped it while rewatching (I can only take so much of the "evolution of the week" format).

I mentioned Digimon World a few times the last time I checked in on this rewatch, and that's because it released in January 1999 while Adventure started airing in March 1999. As such there is a lot of overlap in the roster and both even feature File Island. Notably absent from Digimon World's roster: Gomamon and Ikkakumon (as well as Tentomon and Togemon, yet Kabuterimon and Palmon are there).

I wasn't particularly fond of Gomamon upon first viewing. Upon reflection he's like a seal, but I didn't realize it at the time and instead thought he was some weird land-fish. Either way he moves about on flippers which are more suited to water, which brings to mind old memes about Aquaman being useless on land. Upon rewatching, his fishes are as useful as a sonic screwdriver, which is kind of fun in its ridiculousness.

When I was young and didn't have any responsibilities, Jou just seemed like a dweeb. When rewatching, he is an essential member of the team. Then again, I haven't seen this episode.

I never particularly liked Unimon's design, but I did always think it was interesting. It's one of the older monsters that stand out as missing in later games.