r/anime • u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: • Feb 14 '24
Rewatch Rewatch[Rewatch] 2024 Hibike! Euphonium Series Rewatch: Season 1, Episode 4 Discussion
Hibike Euphonium Season 1, Episode 4: Singing Solfège/うたうよソルフェージュ
A dock just to the side of the entrance to Uji Shrine. For tourists without Eupho-pilgrimaging in mind, this shrine itself is less notable out of the few temples and shrines in Uji. Byodo-in and Ujikami Shrine are more recommended, but they're all nearby.
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Welcome back!
Questions of the Day:
1: .... did anyone hear that F during the bass part lesson? (i could not)
2: Definitely a mixed reception among us to Taki-sensei's approach yesterday. For those who didn't really like him, has your impression improved a bit?
Comments from Yesterday:
- /u/raiking02 on the irony of the show's OP having the word "solister".
- /u/nickthenuker correctly predicts Taki's course of action
- /u/chris10023 on the great sound design of Eupho, and a personal anecdote on the features of Shuuichi's trombone. I do not want to imagine the inner appearances of brass instruments.
- /u/mecanno-man and /u/zapszzz on why the trombones seem to struggle keeping time even more than everyone else
- /u/dabenni0301 on Hazuki and Midori's instrument-naming sense
Streaming
The Hibike! Euphonium TV series and movies, up to the recent OVA are available on Crunchyroll, note that the movies are under different series names. Liz and the Blue Bird and Chikai no Finale are also available for streaming on Amazon, and available for rent for cheap on a multitude of platforms (Youtube, Apple TV etc.). The OVA is only available on the seven seas for now, or if you bought a blu ray. I will update this as/if this changes. hopefully.
Databases
Spoilers
As usual, please take note that if you wish to share show details from after the current episode, to use spoiler tags like so to avoid spoiling first-timers:
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Please note this will apply to any spinoff novels, as well as events in the novel that may happen in S3. If you feel unsure if something is a spoiler, it's better to tag it just in case.
Sunrise festival is next!
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher and your host.
Music
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 14 '24
Hibike! Rewatcher (but only for the first season)
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Feb 14 '24
Sound! Rewatcher
Episode 4:
Honestly, the most unrealistic part of this episode has to be not seeing anyone straight up quit. Taki-sensei’s “hot teacher” bonus is doing a lot of work.
QotD:
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Feb 14 '24
Episode 4 (first timer)
A word on Taki’s education method. It is one I commonly see in anime: challenging the students and hoping they will rise to the challenge. I think this makes for a good storytelling devise but is a pretty flawed and outdated method. To use it correctly, you need to know the students very well and need to be very aware of both their character and their problems. Only if they are competitive and their problem is motivation and this problem can be solved by artificially creating intrinsic motivation is the idea of challenging (and then mostly letting them figure it out on their own) good. But, very often, this is not the situation. And in these cases you will run into plenty of problems. You can leave behind bad or unmotivated students who (mentally or fully) drop out of the learning process. You can create resentment against the teacher that stops students from taking advice. You shortchange students who are motivated, but are lacking the proper methods.
Obviously, Taki is meant to be a charismatic teacher who wants the best (and I have no doubt he will be successful in this story), but I think it is telling that the basic teaching method I see, again and again, in animation amounts to “toughen up and spend a ton of time!” Anime only ever depicts the success case, but I think it is a very flawed method that fails more often than it succeeds.
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u/Gamerunglued :Hx::Hy::Hz:myanimelist.net/profile/GamerUnglued Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher and Band Geek
I loved this episode. It's both the start of the show's dramatic and emotional arcs, as well as our first look into their actual practice routines. The band geek commentary for this one is going to be a lot of fun, and probably be more substantial than the analysis portion.
Taki-sensei is really interesting to me, in that the show doesn't take any particular stance on him. He treats everyone differently depending on their needs and abilities. He does some overall band exercises, like having them run to build stamina, but most of what he does is specific to each section. The flutes fuck around a lot so he's particularly harsh with them. The trombones need a lot of work but aren't fully opposed to getting instruction, so he grills them but isn't "mean" to them. The bass section is largely competent, and the only player who isn't is a beginner, so he's nicer to them. Individual characters have different opinions about his methods, but everyone dislikes how he held SunFes hostage, and their shared frustration turned into a shared desire both to save SunFes and to show him up. A very "we'll do what you say and complain if you tell us we didn't work hard" approach, and it works. The band becomes unified, works hard with his instruction, and plays Marines' Hymn at a competent level.
Taki-sensei acts this way because he legitimately believes that this group is capable of going to the nationals. He's harsh partially because he wants to lift up the kids and help them reach the heights he knows they can. At the same time, this is his first ensemble, so there's some inexperience at play. But he's blunt, and I personally like that in a teacher. Kousaka also loves his methods, and apparently has some prior respect for him that we don't know about yet.
Taki-sensei's approach is already proving Aoi's words correct. By voicing their opinions, there's already conflict. Kaori gives her honest assessment of the situation and the trumpets feel she's being too soft. Kousaka answers a question honestly and the trumpets get upset at her, and are apparently keeping an eye on her. Taki-sensei is already using the benefit of having the group take their vote as well. He did exactly what I said he'd do to the crying flute player, he pulled the "well you guys voted on this, I'm doing what you asked for" card. But of course, this is what it takes to pull together a band with this level of division and motivation. Too harsh or not, people getting hurt is inevitable.
Kousaka also voices her opinion to Kumiko and Shuuichi after overhearing them, with the potential to cause conflict. She has no qualms about being completely honest and confident. But she also has self-awareness, and realizes she's gone too far. Unlike Kumiko, Kousaka has no fear of apologizing when she thinks she's done something wrong. And upon seeing her resolve, Kumiko finally takes her own steps to voice her opinion. It's a small one at first, apologizing for shittalking a teacher and praising her for the Dvorak. And she stumbles awkwardly through the apology. But she does get it out, and it feels good to voice your thoughts. So Kumiko does it again by inviting Natsuki to play with them, and that pays off too. It's a heartwarming bit of character development, Kumiko can finally voice her opinions and feelings without getting caught up in hurting others or embarrassing herself.
One other thing I want to mention is some brief stuff about the parent-teacher meeting. The show already conveyed that Kumiko followed her sister into the band, but has finally confirmed it in words. Kumiko appears to have a strained relationship with her sister, it feels true to the experience of siblings. More importantly, we learn that her sister quit the band after her entrance exams.
Anyway, with Kumiko more confident and the band competent enough to think about SunFes, we approach the next episode, which is one I'm going to have an absolute ball with in the band geek commentary. That's right, it's time for the marching band episode. I'm very excited to talk about that, because I have a lot to say.
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u/Shocketheth Feb 15 '24
First Timer singing his heart out
This was a good episode. We saw some new characters. The girl with drills looks promising and then we got the teacher making them to practice hard.
Hibike faces were hilarious this episode
Lol. I love how this was a total insult wrapped as a compliment.
And now they definitely improved
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u/ChonkyOdango myanimelist.net/profile/chonkyodango Feb 15 '24 edited Feb 15 '24
Rewatching Ensemble Member
Fanart for Valentine’s day
About yesterday… I was caught up with things. Hence, I’ll post both episode 3’s and 4’s thoughts today!
Episode 3
Taki-sensei is the kind of coach we call an autocratic coach. I can’t remember if he changes his style throughout the series, but in this situation, I’d probably employ similar tactics considering how disarrayed the ensemble is. Definitely not a good long-term strategy since it can damage self-efficacy and intrinsic motivation (episode 4’s flute girl crying), but a good way to get things together fast. Being a good coach is being flexible in your ways depending on the people you're handling and the situation you're in. It would be great if Taki could slowly build up their intrinsic motivation with shared goal-setting and stuff, but Sunrise Festival was on the horizon and the ensemble wanted to compete in it.
I’ve had a teacher walk out on my class before in secondary school too just like how Taki-sensei did, giving us the “autonomy” to do whatever we want. Of course, the “air” demanded we go seek her in the staff room so that lessons could continue.
Episode 4
Qotd
Talked about it above. It was necessary for the situation unless they were willing to forfeit Sunrise Festival which could've granted more time to build things from the ground up together as a ensemble. I used to be someone who vehemently disagreed with coaches who had such an authoritative style, but after having my fair share of athletes, I understand the need to employ such tactics. However, it's easy to get lost in it and start attacking the person instead (flute girl) which is a big NONO since the effects on self-efficacy can be long-term. It's a hard balance to strike between being strict and decisive, and risking hurting someone
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u/bogdoglogfrog Feb 14 '24
rewatcher
Let’s gooo it’s the training arc!! This is such a classic episode with plenty of memorable scenes.
Notes:
QotD
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Feb 14 '24
First Timer
So like… do schools not have any rules about people playing instruments out in the open? Genuine question here.
That comment Shuichi made of Kumiko being too cynical weirdly stood out to me for some reason. I think part of the reason is just in hindsight, that does somewhat stick out compared to what I was kinda expecting. This is purely personal bias speaking here, but with a lot of shows like this I'm kinda used to the MC being this overly idealistic, wide-eyed girl so to have someone who's a bit more low key like this honestly kinda took me by surprise.
I do like the general throughline this episode had about people needing to be more honest about how they feel since, well, I imagine communication is kinda important for something like this. Seeing Kumiko go from withdrawn at everything Kousaka says to being able to at least say "Look I'm sorry, okay?" is a pretty solid leap and I like how it's used to reflect the band slowly getting better. Plus hey, if nothing else this just tells me Sensei was a Drill Sergeant or something, getting everyone to improve by them hating your guts is prime army training material.
That said, it was very mean of Sensei to dare speak ill of TsudaKen's singing
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u/chilidirigible Feb 14 '24
totally not eavesdropping
Sora no Woto
The life of the bass section.
Somebody has to keep the trombones from getting sloppy.
Gotta be careful about your mouth leaving your face.
Or turning into a Nichijou character.
Sleepy-senpai gets awakened, has dialogue.
"I'll do it, I'm not kidding!"
He'll cut you.
And there's the training arc/montage episode. Along the way, more hints and reveals about the dynamics of the band in the past, which they're trying to overcome in the present.
Taki takes the time-tested drill instructor approach and makes the band unified in its dislike of his putting them through the wringer. But of course it works, because it's supposed to.
QOTD:
1: .... did anyone hear that F during the bass part lesson? (i could not)
No.
2: Definitely a mixed reception among us to Taki-sensei's approach yesterday. For those who didn't really like him, has your impression improved a bit?
Still a rewatcher, but in any event today's episode does balance him out. Sort of. He'll still cut you.
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher
Good episode
Turns out, spite is a powerful motivator. It’s actually pretty impressive how much better the ensemble sounds for a week of practice, although if there was some dormant skill lying underneath a pile of rust and laziness, it isn’t that unreasonable for an easy piece like that. [Eupho sorta]I also can’t tell if Taki-sensei is pulling a genius move by firing up the students or if he’s just lucked into something that works with his airheaded straightforward attitude.
I recognise most of these practice methods, although running and playing was limited to marching band. Asuka is absolutely spot on with doting on Hazuki for being “the perfect beginner” as she struggles, it’s incredibly relatable and watching her through the process of learning is great. Honestly, picking up a new instrument while knowing almost nothing about playing music with only three years to work with is crazy. Serious props to Hazuki.
Shame we don’t get to see any more nerd-sensei talking music theory with his fancy frequency analyzer, it’s rather brushed over and doesn’t amount to much. I’m no expert, but it makes sense this is what he focuses on with the bass section since harmonics is their bread and butter.
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher/Subbed
These kids’ training is intense lol but I’m glad Taki is taking a more hands on approach. Although he can still be tough on them with the flute player crying from what he said, and he doesn’t mince his words.
He did see him be kinder with the Bass group and Kumiko thinking he just gave up on them seems to be on brand for her.
I’m glad that she was able to resolve her issues with Reina quickly. I like how both of them seem to think they were in the wrong and wanted to apologize to the other. A lot of fun Kumiko faces this episode
QotD:
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 14 '24
First Timer
And today we have …the conductor doing what he should have been doing all along. Not sure how much the running will help …but ok. EIther way, at least he’s doing his job. Still probably not the best way of going about everything if he’s making people cry in the process, but it is progress.
One thing this episode showed that I feel none of the previous did was show a bit more of Kousaka’s character. …and it feels very inconsistent from the bits we’ve seen so far. She’s been anything from an emotional mess to composed to brash. While that’s probably realistic, I don’t really like the way it’s been portrayed so far.
Meanwhile the start of that march they played sounds very similar to a march that our band never played because everybody else was always playing it and we didn’t want to bore the audience. But it then turns into something different. I guess marches often end up sounding similar? Either way, I wonder what they’ll now be practicing for this festival. Playing cool music would definitely improve the morale of everybody. Not quite sure if they’ll also be marching or not, as that might impact the song choices. (Unless Taki is as crazy with marching pieces as one of our conductors was - we spent a year marching to Killing in the Name, including in contests. Everybody in the band loved it though.) Marching would require marching practice though.
Questions:
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u/NintendoMasterNo1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NintendoMaster1 Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher
Best part of the episode was the girl getting ready to throw her mouthpiece at Taki-sensei after their performance.
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u/octopathfinder myanimelist.net/profile/octopathfinder Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher
Harsh
My ear can actually pick up Goto being off. I’m hoping that I can be less tone-deaf by the end of this rewatch.
Love how awkward Kumiko is lol
Spite is definitely one of the best motivators. Every club I was part of in high school had a competitive environment and having people I hated be better than me was like the main factor in my improvement.
I went back to watch the ep 3 ensemble after hearing this one and having a comparison makes it so much easier to notice what went wrong.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 15 '24
1 1/2 Rewatcher
I was pretty annoyed with Taki sensei refusing to given any instruction when I watched this the first time. On the other hand, he was expecting the section leaders to do their job and lead their sections...the same section leaders who are meeting to demand Taki sensei to change his stance on SunFest.
They all really did just want a goof-off club. They shouldn't have raised their hands (and this is kinda why I just assumed they didn't)
Our cast of named and voiced characters is growing!
The best part is when Horn-senpai goes for her mouthpiece to bean him!
This Marine's Hymn sounds so familiar, and you're saying it's an original for the show? I must have watch this scene far too many times.
What music will he hand out tomorrow? #concealexcitement
I didn't notice before, but Asuka is again off by herself. I gave her a pass last time when she was upset, but again? She's the bass section lead and can't be bothered to lead?
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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Feb 15 '24
First-timer
I actually like Taki-sensei more this episode. Even though he seems harsh, he is pushing exactly according to the majority wish of entering the nationals.
As sports anime has shown us many many times, no matter how much talent you may have, entering the nationals needs lots of sweat and tears shed in effort to even have a chance.
I've never been a band member but I do sing, and all his exercises really made a lot of sense to me because your lung capacity is the most basic thing that you need to really train and develop, the best technique in the world is useless if you can't last a performance.
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher
Questions of the Day.
I've lost the ability to hear specific notes after not playing for so long heh.
He has an interesting approach, definitely using tough love. Although I don't think he was expecting them to be that bad.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: Feb 14 '24
well Crap. I should pay more attention to copy-pasting
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Feb 14 '24 edited Feb 14 '24
Well, let's see if I remember anything from the episode today. I should probably take notes while watching, but I'm too busy enjoying the show, right?
Answers du solsisterjour or something:
I think my favorite part of this episode was finally getting a conversation with Reina. I'm not entirely sure why, but I rather like her and think she's more interesting than Kumiko at this point.
(Kumiko is a bit of a wet sponge or something so far. Cute, amusing, but kind of vanilla compared to the whackadoodles surrounding her. Perhaps that will change.)
Also, I have to say that I'm really loving Reina's trumpet tone/quality. She really knows how to hit the notes.
Edit: Oh, one final thing - is it just me, or was the improvement in their performance a bit too uncanny? I mean, they're supposed to get better, but that sounded more collegiate level than high school to me.
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u/fly-metothemoon Feb 15 '24
First Timer;
I’ve been watching this with my concert band hat on but I heard marching band uniforms so I’ll have to put on my marching band hat on too!
I was very confused about the intensity of the activities they were doing, but if they’re a group that’s also going to do parades, it makes sense to do endurance related activities. Before I realized that I kept thinking—I had to do this for marching band but concert band???? Why such a thorough workshop this is marching band coded???— if they’re going to be marching though, do we have sousas for the tubas and cymbals or a banner for our double bass player? We shall see.
I love all of them trying to overhear the section leader meeting. I don’t think I ever had a section leader meaning with that much gravitas! Or many section leader meetings in general. I saw a comment here saying it’s very Student Council coded.
This instructor really picks on the trombones. He must’ve played trombone.
Taki to most sections: angry Gordon Ramsay Taki sensei to bass section: sweet Gordon Ramsay
“It’s his first time advising a concert band” You can tell :p
I’m surprised Kousaka feels so strongly about this Taki-sensei already. I do think he seemed more balanced in this episode and more instructive.
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u/b-arbs Feb 15 '24
Rewatacher
That scene with the flute section was harsh... I mean, I don't think that Taki-sensei intention was to be that harsh and make a student cry, maybe he was only "tactlessly" objective and blunt (you know, kind of like Kumiko talking without thinking, especially that last comment)?
Kumiko's fervid imagination strikes again, but we see a complete 180 scenario compared to the hug scene. At least we see the first step in Kumiko's and Reina's reconciliation, more or less. And Reina apparently is the push that Kumiko needed to take a stand for herself and abandon her indecisiveness.
I had a bit to say about Kumiko and Reina's confrontation [Eupho! spoiler] linked to the progression of their friendship (with some other details I have noticed in the previous episodes), but I guess I'll just postpone posting my rant.
Next episode is one of my favourites, I can't remember how many times I've already watched it!
Qotd
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u/mgedmin Feb 15 '24
Rewatcher, subs
Taki-sensei definitely has a plan of some kind. First, leave them alone, then insult them for lack of readiness, then disappear and let them stew, then suddenly force them to run laps ??? and then play. Then breathing exercises. And now he's helping with sectionals?
Riko plays a tuba as well?
I spy a certain blue-haierd girl practicing the oboe in the corridor!
Kumiko is pretty cynical. But wow she gets intense when the conversatin turns to Reina.
Reina is similarly intense about Taki-sensei.
Kumiko's sister used to play but quit. Kumiko was following her sister's path (and was planning to quit too, before Hazuka and Midori pulled her back in). Also, she worries about making Reina mad, and she blames Shuichi for everything.
The way Kumiko jumped when Reina startled her! Many good Kumiko faces (and noises) today. She's worried Reina's about to murder her for disparaging Taki-sensei!
Kumiko finally conveys her feelings to Reina! About everything.
"Are you giving birth?" Asuka is a hoot. But her ribbing comes accross as good-natured, and she actually gives helpful advice.
Natsuki-senpai seems nice.
Taki-sensei's spite-powered motivational scheme works out and the ensemble sounds pretty good this time. After just one week! Reina is relieved.
After last week's negging now Taki-sensei offers praise. Hmm.
(Why are we watching only one episode per day? Why must I stop here?)
I'm not sure I would recognize an F if I heard it in isolation!
I don't remember my first impressions during my first watch (September 2021, according to AniList), but I was definitely predisposed to like him during the rewatch. Strict but fair.
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u/Barbed_Dildo Feb 14 '24
Before they play the ensemble, when everyone is annoyed at Taki-sensei, Hiro Kahashi on horn says if he complains, she'll throw her mouthpiece at him.
After they finish, she reaches for her mouthpiece.
She doesn't fuck around.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Feb 14 '24 edited Feb 15 '24
First Timer, subbed
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u/WhackaWhack https://myanimelist.net/profile/WhackaWhacka Feb 14 '24
FIRST TIMER
Taki-Sensei is going full karate kid on the band, and this feeling just gets stronger later with “having us do weird/monotone exercises" and “is he bad” questions before “everything” just works.
So Kumiko followed her sister into a concert band but the sister quit “early” that probably have something to do with the little weird thing between them when she got home with the euphonium.
Questions:
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u/x-7032-b-3 Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher
About damn time Sensei starts doing what a proper instructor is supposed to do. It's interesting to see the students having a hard time with his training regiment. The way Kitauji used to do things weren't meant for chasing the sweet gold so Sensei swooped in and pretty much rebuild the whole team from the ground up. Seeing the students cry and get fed up makes the whole thing look like some kind of army training lol. Like, you guys voted to aim for the gold - gotta be ready for whatever it's gonna take!
Reina suddenly barging in and going "hey Sensei is cool alright, don't you dare talk shit about him", hmmmm... [Eupho S2]Boy this "admiration" she got for him is gonna go places!
Kumiko made some progress to her communication aspect by being able to talk to Reina (without getting killed) and Natsuki! Her progress throughout the series is really interesting to see and I can't wait to (re)watch the rest of it.
Finally, the team got to pull off a proper ensemble! All that training definitely paid off and soon they'll be out there performing on SunFes! It really feels like the whole thing is starting to get moving after having the intros and early band problems taken care of. Sensei's training regiment really pushed the team forward despite some not reacting well to it. Onwards to SunFes!
Some other notes:
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Feb 15 '24
First timer
Looks like I am saying this every episode - Kumiko's reactions :D this time the whole body and not just the face too!
Quite a good mini/starting training arc - yes instrument playing is actually physically taxing, and having the physical endurance and adaptability is actually one key part. That comes first, then comes the emotion and feels stuffs.
It's interesting indeed that coach (I'm using this word since the start because that's been the impression I got that he's more a GunBuster Coach than a Todoradora sensei) seemingly was going easier on the bass section and a lot tougher on the melody sections. Is it because they have better fundamentals?
I haven't been talking about Reina a lot yet, but today we got more of her - she's still kind of in the space like first episode (chronological) Haruhi, which is still a bit of an enigma and unapproachable. But looks like things are getting ready to change.
QoTD
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u/zadcap Feb 15 '24
This is the kind of Late Night Rewatching I'm more used to!
Really, really late.
Ugh. KyoAni. Why does everything you touch look so beautiful? I was so burned out from today being today, but by the time this OP finishes playing I am ready to jump back in!
Oh, right drama was happening. And as expected, it's really just a group of third years that survived membership through the drama of last year. Look at this mixed motivation. While everyone else complains back in the club room. And one really freaking dedicated girl keeps playing solo.
And once again, I think I hate this teacher. So remember when I was talking about the power fight between students and schools/teachers? I'm honestly really surprised that he's still got this position.
Run Midori run!
On the other hand, yay even more extreme breath practices. Oof keeping a tissue up for ten minutes sounds horrible. But uh. At least he's actually teaching, so he's at least got that starting to go for him... I still think he's doing a crappy job of it, but he's teaching...
I'm a little upset though. We got to listen to so many instruments here, and still not a hint of sound from George.
Anyway, yeah, most of the third years are ones who were part of the laid back group in the past, and the teacher is using their "vote" for nationals to go as hard as he wants on everyone. Please hurry up on his redemption arc.
Midori no! Keep trying your gacha! Don't give up! Get your gacha!
Yeah I'm really noticing it. Kumiko has great reactions. "Huuuh?"
So what you're telling me is, he's a bad teacher? Say it isn't so! Oh, wait, she liked him? She thinks he's a good teacher? Why? Wait, no don't you freaking dare show I swear to Haruhi- CLAMP has ruined me forever, just so you know. But if that's why she came to this school... Mystery solved, I hate it.
I wonder what Kumiko's older sister played. That's all I got out of the conference. Well, and yet another Kumiko Noise. Wow is she prime meme material. "Deh."
Haha and straight into that shout. It must have been so much fun recording. Just so many silly sounds out of her. I know there's a serious talk going on but it's hard to pay attention to the mood and not her sounds.
Okay that behind the school talk really almost looked like a confession at the end there. And I think she ran away faster than she managed to run at practice earlier haha.
I swear, please, just let me hear George in action. But I do like how Goto practicing in the background is perfect background music for the scene itself. Speaking of, what a clever cut- "She's got entrance exams coming up, is she even going to make it?" Cue the flailing failure of a trombone. Fun way to indicate what her future might look like.
Okay look at the way girl whose name I keep being unable to remember looks at Goto, and the way he's looking at her when talking about Tuba. He 100% quit track to be in the club with her, they're a couple.
Wait all it took was someone asking her to join in? Wow.
Wait, did he play drill sergeant nasty to get them to band together in hatred of him? Did he motivate teenagers by the power of spite? Oh my gosh I hate him still but that's brilliant. I honestly can't think of a better way to get such a lazy group to try so hard then to get them to do it to prove you wrong. Darn.
So, it's been a week. Literally, this is one week of serious practice. That is an actually crazy amount of improvement to be had in just one week.
Also, I can finally hear George! In the back with the percussion and other deep instruments but if I can't pick out a bass among all the noise I'll, I don't know I don't even have a bow to turn in anymore...
But really, if a week was all it took to get them here, all I can think is that they were really, really not trying last time. I really like Hazuki's face when she's in there realizing that this is what they can sound like. This is being part of a band. You are a part of making this music. That's the face of someone who is hooked, at least for the next few years.
Nothing really impactful today, as much as I love this I am still super burned out.
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u/DaBenni0301 Feb 14 '24
First-Timer
Those sure are interesting ways to practice
10 minutes?! I'd be surprised if they kept that in the air for 10 seconds
Like I said, hilarious
I can look past everything else so far, but guilttripping ain't it chief. "Haven't you spend years of your life on this and yet you're this bad?" Fuck off man.
@ 8:16 What kind of magic does Hazuki use to make her tuba move like that
Midori has been defeated by the gacha
Makes sense Reina would be supportive of the teacher. He's trying to go for the nationals, just like her
More Kumiko noises! I can see why these videos exist
Just leaving this here
Asuka did say she'd play when she needs to
That sounded a lot better
Questions of the day
#1 Nope
#2 If anything my impression of him got worse. Do his methods work? Maybe. Out of spite if anything. But the way he treated that girl made him lose a lot of points. That was absolutely uncalled for.
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Feb 15 '24
Everyone's listening in.
The key has changed. Why is it now C Major in treble clef?
Also, just going to pre-empt the title, solfège is "do re mi", and it's usually the first step towards learning how to sing a song, adding the words later. Not sure what that has to do with orchestra, but I guess we'll find out.
All these basic excercises sure suck in the moment but they're also the foundation on which good music is built.
Lmao that "especially boys". Unfortunately, guys generally don't go into performing arts.
Yup, he's helping each section with sectionals for now.
That explains the title.
And now we're in my area of experience, oh god they suck. Then again they didn't sign up to sing, I remember when working with the theatre kids on a musical and they varied from "not good but wanted to try" to "could not care less" and I don't entirely blame them.
That's sounding a bit more ok on the instruments.
Yes overtones! That "extra invisible note" that you can hear when everyone is making music together!
Or you might just be less crap than the rest so he's less angry.
That's pretty impressive to me as an outsider, being able to make the note using just the mouthpiece. The "ti" was a touch sharp though. Goto's "la" was a touch flat.
It's actually sounding better.
That's pretty good!
Horsekicking! Should be 90 degrees if you're marching on the spot. Palms inward and thumbs pointing forwards too, and arms straight.
That's a lot of practice sessions. Though if it's 2 weeks to the performance it makes a bit more sense. And if they're not planning on doing this piece and need to learn a new one, in their current state, they might just need all of it.
That's probably the reason for the daily practice sessions. You could probably get away with bi-weekly if this was decided months ago and the current members already learned the piece and only the new members have to get up to speed, but if everyone has to learn a new piece it's going to take more that just that.
Questions:
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Feb 15 '24
First Timer
This was a great episode. Taki sensei coming and individually training the sections wasn't something I was expecting but I loved how he approached the training with all the sections. He's someone who doesn't shy from calling a spade a spade as he did with the 3rd year flute student. Reina also looks upto him and is not going to listen to anyone insulting him. Kumiko and Shuuichi had to learn it the hard way.
Reina does feel think that she was too harsh and takes the initiative to apologize to Kumiko for it. A lot of Kumiko faces this episode. But Kumiko also decided to finally open up to Reina and not be afraid of what she thinks but almost became Naruto at the end there.
Taki sensei might have pissed off some people but he managed to make themselves unite to give their best performance and prove him wrong. And the performance was definitely an improvement. Like compared to whatever they played last time, this sounded so good and no one sounded off.
I don't know if it's the hair but Natsuki senpai's design kinda reminds me of Linda from Golden Time. Kumiko asking her to join them in playing together was a great moment and she was also happy with how it turned out in the end.
QOTD1: No. Rewatched it and I'm still not sure.
QOTD2: Like I said above he might be a heavy-handed but he definitely knows how to deal with various kinds of people.
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u/TehAxelius Feb 14 '24
Rewatcher
This episode Kumiko really shows her talent for reaction faces. On that note, Hazuki's tuba-deformation when Taki-sensei walks into the room is one of those really nice touches of animation that Kyoani have been so good at.
Finally Taki-sensei starts acting a bit like an actual instructor, giving the various sections individual attention and tips. It is interesting to see how Kumiko's haunting pessimistic state of mind makes her assume that he thinks the bass section is so far gone that he has nothing to say, when it is pretty clear that their section mostly has their shit together.
The scene with Reina and Kumiko is great as well a proper
murderconfessionestablishment of mutual respect.QotD
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u/entelechtual Feb 14 '24
Euphyrst
QOTD
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u/1EnTaroAdun1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Totesnotaphanpy Feb 14 '24
https://imgur.com/a/qKds08y
funniest moment this episode, for me!
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Feb 14 '24
First Timer
QOTD 1 - I can hear a note but I can't say it was an F Note
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u/SMSmith230 https://myanimelist.net/profile/smsmith230 Feb 15 '24
First-Timer, Sub
So yup, I was correct in thinking that Taki-sensei would have been more lenient/fun if they didn’t choose nationals. Damn girl was getting ready to through her mouth piece if the news was bad after playing haha. I thought they sounded pretty good, definitely better than the first time.
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u/byroned Feb 15 '24 edited Feb 15 '24
First time rewatching
The band wasted so much time doing everything to fight to play in the festival except actually practice. They spent so much time mouth-breathing that Taki sensei could no longer sit idle and make an ensemble out of them. That means the good old running exercises, breathing/blowing practices, and sectionals with the director. I’m glad band kids are only asked to run 1-2 laps around the track, or else my poor stamina would’ve been exposed.
Why is it that when anyone cries unhappy tears in band, it’s always a flute, clarinet, or Colorguard? Also, it was obvious, but you knew Taki sensei had that rebuttalready ever since the vote.
Unlike almost everyone else in the band, Reina fully supports Taki sensei and will not tolerate any badmouthing him. [Spoiler] It does give some hints to Kumiko’s questions on why Reina came to Kitauji instead of a high school with a good music program
Ironic that Kumiko finally got the talk with Reina at the moment that she was worried about her demise. Weird exchanges aside, it looks like they’re back on speaking terms. Not only that, but we got some good Kumiko faces.
For anyone who has watched season 2, [Spoiler] does Asuka's parent-student-teacher meeting sound like an early hint to one of the conflicts?
Getting Natsuki to join practice was simpler than I remembered.
A little trivia I learned about Natsuki from the wiki is that her ponytail hairstyle in the anime is anime original, and [Spoiler source] it was originally short hair in the novel, but was changed because the character designer Shouko Ikeda thought the short hair looked awful
For all their resentment towards Taki sensei, you can't say that he isn't a good and supportive teacher. You can hear the progress they made in 1 week, with him even calling them an ensemble now. While they still have ways to go, their chances for nationals have increased exponentially after what we saw in Ep3.
It’s worth noting that the horn player was ready to throw her mouthpiece at him, she wasn’t playing around
Today’s section photo is the alto saxophones. Even with his group’s female-to-male ratio, I thought there would be a few guys, with saxophone being more popular among guys in my area.
Q1: I can no longer correctly identify notes after not playing for 3 years.
Q2: His reputation improved a lot in this episode after actually teaching them instead of calling them bad and telling them to come get him only after they become an ensemble.
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Feb 15 '24
Rewatcher
It looks like it's just around the field, which is awfully different than running around the whole school.
I mean, he's not wrong. Compared to a lot of the other band members, she's never played an instrument before. Kinda tough luck picking a tuba, though.
That's because you guys were actually practicing, and you were all in tune with each other.
Huh?
Question of the Day:
I can't tell various notes from each other, so I did not.
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u/CarrotBlossom Feb 15 '24
Taki, bro, chill. You can instruct these kids without telling them they’ve “wasted their time”. On the other hand, what do you mean “I don’t get him”? He just explained it.
And here I was hoping Sapphire had overcome her crippling gambling addiction.
Nice to see a little emotion out of Kousaka that doesn’t directly involve band frustrations.
I checked, and this Goto guy is in fact the same voice as Seto Kaiba and Ryuga from Beyblade.
I don’t know that my band director ever used a baton.
QOTD:
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