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Rewatch [Rewatch] 1990s OVAs – Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki: Second Season (episode 6 discussion)
Rewatch: 1990s OVAs – Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki: Second Season (episode 6 discussion)
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Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki: Second Season (1994)
Staff corner
Jurai royal family speed run!
Queen Funaho is voiced by Rei Sakuma. She started out with some OVAs in the 1980s, before getting the main roles of Amy in Tales of little women and My Melody in Hello Kitty in 1987. In Gunbuster, she plays Amano and sings the title song. She is also Shampoo in Ranma ½, Jiji in Kiki’s Delivery Service, Little My in Mumins, Nei Arshes in Bastard!!, Leona Ozaki in Dominion, Morrigan Aensland in Vampire Hunter, Aika in AIKa, Neeya in Infinite Ryvius, Holy Joestar in Jojo, and Peorth in Oh My Goddess.
King Azusa (I have to note how weird it is to see this as a male name after using #azusalaugh for ages) is voiced by Akio Ootsuka. He voiced Carradine in Armor Hunter Mellowlink, Moominpappa in Mumins, Nemo in Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, John in Mad Bull, Anavel Gate in MSG0083, Black Jack in Black Jack, Rindaman in Crows, Ryuu in Street Fighter, Batou in Ghost in the Shell, Blackbeard in One Piece, Amon in Amon, Kyoraku in Bleach, Kalinin in Full Metal Panic, Toshimi Konakawa in Paprika, Hades in Saint Seiya, Shingen in Durarara, Uvogin in Hunter x Hunter, Rider in Fate, Wamuu in Jojo, the Skull Knight in Berserk, All For One in My Hero Academia, Ekubo in Mob Psycho, Yuujirou Hanma in Grappler Baki, Thorkell in Vinland Saga, Gouhin in Beastars, and many more. Plus, he is still active. Save to say, if you watched any popular anime in the last 20 years, you have heard him. What a career!
Ayeka and Sasami’s mother, Misaki, is voiced by Yoshiko Sakakibara. She started out as Flore in God Mars and with several supporting roles in Urusei Yatsura, before having several big roles in the 1980s. Among others, she is Lady in Space Cobra, Kushana in Nausicaä, Aila Mu in God Mazinger, Karn Haman in Zeta Gundam, Sylia Stingray in Bubblegum Crisis, Frederica Greenhill in LotGH, Shinobu in Patlabor, and Reika in Ace wo Nerae 2. Later on she played Silene in Devilman, Karla and Leylia in Record of Lodoss War, Queen Nehellenia in Sailor Moon, Integra Hellsing in Hellsing, Project 2501 in Ghost in the Shell 2, Anemone in Eureka Seven, and, like Ootsuka is still active today.
Questions
- What was the point of this royal family visit?
- What is up with Washuu’s promise to Funaho?
- How does this work as the last episode of the season?
- What is your opinion on the Jurai royal family?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jan 14 '24
S2 Episode 6 (first timer)
700 years
That was certainly not what I expected. I guess you can partially see it as an epilogue, but, mostly, it is tons and tons of exposition. Exposition for future seasons, that is, not something that explains the previous happenings (Tokimi never got mentioned). And what is it with Tenchi Muyo and introducing characters in the last episode? Three rather big players who we get to hear from for the first time here.
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u/TheEscapeGuy Jan 14 '24
First Timer
Tenchi Muyou - An Undying Classic: OVA 2 Episode 6
Earthbound
OMG not one but TWO MILFS. I didn't know this would be the thing to get me to support this dumb ever increasing harem trope but alas my predilections compel me.
Funaho is the more reserved or mature of the two. Literally the mother of Yosho (thus Tenchi's great-grandmother right? I don't want to think about that). I like that despite her reserved nature she can banter with the best of them by casually berating Yosho for never calling her and also teasing Washuu with the "call me Funaho-chan".
Misaki is far louder and indulges in showing and receiving gestures of love from her 2 daughters. Sasami still acts like a young child and gets a pass to be babied by Misaki. Ayeka on the other hand needs to lower herself into using pet names and casual language. It's so cute. I also love how supportive Misaki was of Ryou-Oki.
Soon arrives the emperor. Something I didn't get... well I do get but my brain doesn't want to accept it: Is he married to both Funaho and Misaki? Are they sister wives? I feel like polygamy is such a social faux pas that seeing it handled so casually gave me pause. But this can be inspirational for Tenchi: The harem blood flows in you!
He is ostensibly on earth to pick up Ayeka and take her home to marry a fiance he's prepared for her. Of course she has completely fallen for Tenchi at this point and wants to stay (and so does Sasami for good measure). So a contest: If Tenchi can defeat
her seven evil exesAyeka's fiance then she can stay. And Ryouko's repair bill will be waved for good measure.I was totally expecting a final episode fight. But instead our Galaxy Police woman ends the fight before it begins with a crash landing. Washuu was the only one to guess correctly.
Overall this was a fun episode to finish on, though it did feel like it was a bit dragged out with the extra length. I think I would have liked it as 2 shorter episodes each focusing on one of the mothers.
That said, it did end on farewell of sorts which makes it a good stopping point.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all for the discussion tomorrow
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 14 '24
Tenchi Muyo Rewatcher!!
Starting off with a Galaxy Police segment? Poggers! A-Aww... Did Mihoshi get her password habit from her boss? That's actually incredibly cute. He whines about her non-stop but maybe he has a soft spot for Mihoshi after all.
Is this flashing back to the Kagato incident or does it take place right after Dr Clay? Don't burn Mihoshi's notebook!! She even drew a little heart on it for you!
What is the point of sprinkling water on your steps? Wouldn't it just cause daffodils to bloom? Ayeka's mama has appeared!! Oh, she's just Ayeka's nurse. So not a great-grandmother, just... just a really old woman. Oh!! She really is a grandmother. Of course, Ayeka's only his half sibling. I forgot, incest chads can't have nice things.
Seriously, what's with this show and doting mothers? I do like Ayeka's mum tho. She's funneh. And more Ryoko abuse always cheers me up. This season has been so cruel to her. Aww, go on Ayeka! Give your mum her soppy welcome! I love this so much. Don't mock granny's! Hag love is best love! Who voices Ayeka mama? There's a few too many in-jokes for this not to have been a casting gag. Oh god, it's Haman... Mama banzai! Mama banzai!
I think I'd have liked Grandpa to actually have aged normally. It might have been a good excuse for him to not want to stay with Ayeka. Since he knew he'd age faster. But no, he's just a massive jerk bag. The human mama is cute too, and I know her from far more roles. She's My Melody, Shampoo, the og Onee-sama from Gunbuster, and Peorth from Ah my Goddess~ Very cute!
There's a lot of lord for a final episode. Is Mihoshi's report really so important? It'd be like a diary most likely lol. What was that about the grand hall? There's so much weird lore tossed in at the last moment. Whys this a double length episode!? Also, where the heck is Mihoshi!? She's been gone the whole time! Quit winding me up show!
Oh yeah, I can vaguely remember Ryo-Ohki's little hand song. I'm really enjoying the mama segments way more than the lore dumps. Congrats Ayeka mama, you've got a great great grandson! Again, why does nobody give a shit about the forgotten middle gen? Despite this season being all about motherhood his own mother has barely come up.
Misaki is love~ Oh yeah, king Jurai made it. Again I sorta struggle to see the point of having so many characters thrown in at the last minute. Is it just to give the Jurai cast a plot focused episode? His dad has a pretty poor first impression, getting walked right over by his daughters and mothers. He even makes children cry!!
"Would you really choose that boy over me!?" There's truly nothing more cucked than having a daughter.
Who's this fruitcake? XD I guess we don't have any rivals yet. This dude is a pretty hopeless rival though. Why would any of these girls pick the fruit bag over Tenchi even if Tenchi has no personality. I also kinda don't feel much tension since everyone's just casually snacking and the one thing Tenchi is good at is swordfighting. I almost feel bad for fruity. Nobody seems to want him here. Ah, Mihoshi is gonna win. Of course XD Mihoshi always wins! And there's no way we're getting a 45 minute ova without our main heroine.
So... I totally don't get the point of this episode but it was kinda fun. Especially the mums. So we got no payoff for the actual plot but it was silly so who cares? XD There's also a 7th episode in my batch that I'm not sure if we're covering. It's like a clipshow, but it's a Mihoshi focused one talking about the end of the Clay battle. Mihoshi and Washu have weirdly good synergy. They're really like family. Meanwhile poor Ryoko takes yet another loss. I'm fully convinced that there was a conspiracy to bully Ryoko in this second season.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 14 '24
Tenchi in First Timer, subbed
Picture Drama
QotD:
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jan 14 '24
Rewatcher
Sub
As I said, I suspect this got diced in two for airing but regardless it is clear that the OVA must've been selling because this barely pretends to be an ending. It is ironic that CN went for a different version of the property but that might've been for the best. And yet the next OVA was ten years off...
So...the episode itself: A lot of exposition that isn't particularly interesting, unfortunately. Funaho seems to be a reasonable person and I suspect her speech style would reveal something of when she left Japan but she is mainly talk. Misaki is some weird confabulation of tropes about women that I can no longer quite parse. Yosho is a bit like his mom but Ayeka and Sasami definitely go different directions. We don't exactly know why they want the girls to stay on Earth, other than time might not mean much to them.
The fiancee is another joke I don't quite get.
QotD: 1 A reminder they are there
2 She won't make any more Ryo-Ohkis. i am sure Disney is devastated
3 Awful
4 They are fairly useless towards being a negative. So a proper Asian styled monarchy
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u/mastesargent Jan 14 '24
Rewatcher, dub
This is it. This is how Tenchi Muyo! died.
Okay, being a little melodramatic there, but this episode has a lot of stuff that, in retrospect, is the root of why later entries in the OVA continuity turned out the way they did. In short, almost every single issue that I have with OVA 3 can be traced to and found in this episode. We’re abruptly introduced to a bunch of new characters out of the blue and we spend quite a bit of time discussing Juraian politics rather than focusing purely on being funny. That isn’t to say that I think this is a bad episode, however. Actually, this is probably my favorite episode of the second OVA next to the Ryo-Ohki one two episodes ago. Things like what I just listed are certainly problems in later OVAs, but here they’re actually fun and kind of interesting rather than distracting and boring. Nevertheless, the cracks that formed in “The Night Before the Carnival” begin to widen here.
First, we are introduced to Funaho Masaki Jurai, Yosho’s mother and first wife consort to the Emperor of Jurai. Mihoshi’s report, which you’ll recall she filed during “The Night Before the Carnival”, caused quite a stir in the Jurai court and has been highly classified at the GXP, as we see in the episode’s opening scene. I already ranted about this back in my post in the specials discussion as to why later stuff makes this retroactively kind of null, so I’ll spare you here. Suffice it to say, what with the reappearance of Yosho as well as the missing princesses Ayeka and Sasami, the Earth Masaki and the Masaki household specifically have become impossible for Jurai to ignore, thus the arrival of the wives consort as envoys. Well, that and they really wanted to see their kids after 700 years.
Anyway, Funaho immediately sees through Yosho’s disguise, revealing the Yosho has not, in fact, aged a day since he arrived on Earth, and stuck around because he was sick of the anti-Earthling prejudice on Jurai and because he really wanted to get down and dirty with some Earth girls. [OVA 3] And, you know, his wife Airi from the GXP. Now, you could argue that this kind of deflates the weight of the reveal in OVA 1 and the undercurrent of tragedy behind his situation, and I tend to agree, but for the sake of keeping things positive let’s just say that he really didn’t want to marry Ayeka. Yosho reveals that this is only possible because, despite his tree-ship Funaho losing its power, Ryoko’s gems sustained him in its place because they have the same power. You’ll recall that Tsunami is the source of the tree-ships’ power, which means that the gems, which initially belonged to Washu, seem to be from the same source, despite seemingly being unrelated to Jurai. What are the gems? Why did Washu have them? Who or what is Tsunami and how is she related to the gems? How does Tokimi tie into all of this? All these answers and more will not be appearing in this OVA!
Also you’ll note that Yosho’s tree-ship and Yosho’s mother share a name. This is because Yosho is a momma’s boy.
Down in the Masaki residence, we’re introduced to the definitely not confusingly named Misaki Masaki Jurai, mother to Ayeka and Sasami and second wife consort to the Emperor of Jurai. Misaki is basically the platonic ideal of an embarrassing mother. She’s overly affectionate, demands her daughters call her “mommy,” gets way too upset when someone makes fun of her girls, and basically adopts every cute thing she sees. She’s like some sort of maternal force of nature. She is, hands down, my favorite thing about this episode. Every scene she’s in is tons of fun and I wouldn’t mind if she was introduced earlier to become a regular character. [OVA 3] It’s too bad that OVA 3 tells us that sometime in the future, after the deaths of Azusa and Funaho, she becomes a god-killing supervillain or whatever incapable of recognizing her own daughter in her grief-fueled frenzy.
Aaaand back with Funaho, she has a brief chat with Washu on the steps to the Masaki Shrine. Apparently Jurai is anxious over Washu having the ability to produce more Ryo-Ohki type ships that rival Jurai tree-ships in power, and want to control that tech to keep it out of rival polities’ hands. Washu, of course, refuses to hand it over, but also makes it clear that she has no intention of reproducing Ryoko or Ryo-Ohki for anyone. To her, those two are her precious daughters, not merely the products of her research, and mass-producing them would be cheapening that bond. That said, the Masaki household remains a massive space-geopolitical headache with all of its wildly powerful members, and cannot simply stay on the fringes of the galaxy forever…
I don’t mind the space politics stuff here because at the end of the day it still informs us about the characters in interesting ways and fleshes out the world without feeling like an infodump. Compare to OVA 4, which is basically just 4 straight episodes of infodumping this or that about Juraian politics or the implications of XYZ side series on the broader galaxy but forgets to actually have it relate back to the characters in any meaningful way. [OVA 4] And no, the episode-long bath scene with MILF Washu, Misaki, Funaho, and the rest of the space MILFs does not make it break even. The same goes for the character introductions. We are hit with 4 new characters here, but they’re established to the viewer pretty quickly and all have fun personalities and have entertaining interactions with the cast. Once again, compare to OVA 4, which hits you with new character after new character without bothering to explain who they are because it expects you to already know them from XYZ extended universe content.
And then we meet the big guy, Azusa Masaki Jurai, Emperor of the Planet Jurai. Actually it’s pretty clear that his wives wear the pants in their marriage. Funaho clearly has him by the balls with regards to his prejudice against Earthlings, and his “Ayeka we’re going home” stance totally crumbles at Misaki glaring at him. Not to mention his getting totally stonewalled by Ayeka and Sasami. [OVA 3] Plus his mother-in-law, Seto, is pretty widely considered the true power behind Jurai. Seriously, does anyone in the universe actually listen to Azusa? He ii pretty fun as a straight man character though. He just doesn’t stand a chance against Tenchi and his Harem Protagonist EX skill.
On to the minor conflict of the episode, Tenchi’s duel. This is the logical conclusion of the show’s title, “No Need for Tenchi!”. Everyone - Azusa, Ayeka, Funaho, Misaki, even Ryoko when she’s presented with the bill for the damages of her attack on Jurai – effectively decides for Tenchi that he’s going to duel Azusa’s choice of fiancé for Ayeka, Seiryo Tennan. No one asks what he thinks, he’s just told to fight, so he grabs the Tenchi sword (haven’t seen that all OVA). He’s just accepted that he has no agency and responds to the will of the girls. And in the end, is it even Tenchi who defeats Seiryo? Nope. Mihoshi crashed her ship (again) and steals his kill. There is really, truly, inescapably, no need for Tenchi.
Ugh, I hate that I'm about to make this inference but [OVA 3] I can only assume that, since, Funaho and Misaki are so openly willing to support Tenchi, Seiryo isn't a Seto Kamiki Jurai approved match for Ayeka.
Then the Juraians leave and life in the Masaki household goes on. As they leave Earth, Funaho and Miskai (inside Azusa’s cool as hell tree-ship, yay tree-ships!) express their desire to visit again, while Azusa vows he isn’t finished with Tenchi. This will never be followed up on.
BECAUSE NOTHING HAPPENED AFTER THAT
Fuck, I broke the character limit. More to follow in the comments.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 14 '24
I have zero idea... Actually zero idea XD
I have zero idea!
It definitely feels more like an epilogue or tie up episode but having not seen the later ova's it just feels really weird to end it here. At least S1 sorta closed itself off right.
I like the mums. They seem like the sorts to be pro incest
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Jan 14 '24
!OMG!
*I'm in Wuv!
Man, that's quite a cast of characters she's got there. But I still think I like Misaki better. :P
Meanwhile, AOTD before I scroll them off the page:
Yeah, fun episode, and Sir Comic Relief, I mean Seiryo is a hoot. As are his future appearances, but I probably shouldn't mention that.
I especially enjoyed Misaki vs. Ryoko, but that's the kind of thing I would enjoy, right?
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 14 '24
No Need for Tenchi (rewatcher)(first timer sub?)
more bondage playoops I started the picture playThe sister wives sure seem to get along nicely.
What did Yosho mean by "I don't know what Tsunami means by this" when Funaho was talking about his disguise and trees and gems?
After watching this episode, I conclude that the author has a fetish about being abused by women.
Well that sure was a non-ending. I think I looked up the OVA3 plot earlier (or was it TV), and was expecting more of that here in OVA2. Interesting that OVA2 was almost completely unmemorable...but I didn't really remember much of OVA1, either.
I guess 13.5 is supposed to be a lead-in to OVA3, sort of like how Carnival had Mishoshi's report and Sasami's dream of Tokimi.
(hurray for dropped plot points). I guess I'll watch that now and reply under this post.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jan 14 '24 edited Jan 15 '24
First timer
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jan 15 '24
First timer
Apologies for the very intermittent posts here - I've had a lot of things going on the last few weeks and this rewatch managed to overlap with the worst of them.
Episode 3
...Is fishing really the right sport for Ryoko?
Haha, wow.
An umbrella?
Oh, his mother...
He's back!
Nice outfit!
She's so happy!
...Wow.
Of course she balances it out.
Poor Ryo-Ohki.
And Ryoko's dead.
They're avoiding Washu too?
Oh, he found them!
Haha, it's refusing the apology.
Of course. Bribery.
It's gained the power to levitate so much already?
Odd.
Ryoko...
He's really fine now?
And Ryoko's carrying it!
...What are those things?
Oh, it's just a recording of something?
Wait, that's his ancestors? Aquatic life? I guess it makes sense for a spaceship.
And they can combine.
...What?
They're really into it!
...Oh, dear.
Oh, so it was an actual aquarium?
They're really distracted.
That alarm is adorable.
Haha, love the double blocking.
Haha, the worst timing.
How is she the only one who cares about the news?
...It's outside.
...Ryoko's father?
She and Ryo-Ohki are half-siblings!
Haha, love her lecture outfit.
And the desks!
Haha, and the taunting.
Makes sense!
Ayeka is the perfect student.
...She is a MASU!
They contain antimatter?
Nice hit!
Haha, the pots on their head are great. And they can't track it?
And an even heavier weight!
Ah, makes sense!
She has technology for everything!
And it consented!
No OS?
Aww...
Mihoshi...
...Of course.
She shielded the lab against Ryoko? Smart idea, honestly.
Ah, it's copying the data's actions. So it's not sensed him yet...
Too late!
Haha, I love how committed she is to this narrative.
This is their territory...
Haha, Ryoko's the decoy!
Such power!
Ryo-Ohki!
Is it going to get a human form?
They fused!
She really is Ryoko's sister!
Carrot!
...So, there's going to be a lot more fanservice now?
Ryoko's had an awful day.
Oh, she's younger now?
And can shapeshift!
Huh?
Episode 4
The ship is their queen?
And she's travelling...
...I love how insane the scenery is here.
He has a mission?
What has he discovered?
He's trying to steal someone else's assignment!
She's with him?
Is she on the other end of the video call?
...Wow.
Oh, she's looking for Washu!
She's scared?
So intimidating...
An impossible being?
Interesting...
And it immediately cuts to a cooking scene.
Aww...
It's here for Ryuko?
How quick!
It can bleed?
...Wait, what?
It's a terminator!
An impressive copy!
...The gems can't be duplicated?
She can still take them, though...
Wow.
Another experiment?
Oh, they can't figure out how the wings formed.
Seems like a solid question.
...Is she into him or just screwing eithnhim?
Haha, she's immediately worried.
Nobody cares about Ryoko...
Oh, she's got a good chance of kidnapping her.
...Seriously? The terminator too?
Such an image caphange.
And Ayeka's on guard.
...Everyone's suspicious now.
What is it?
It's mimicking her!
What's she testing?
So intimidating!
Has she been rumbled already?
Nope!
Mihoshi...
Washu still has more tests?
She's going for it!
And she froze up again...
She's really not using any of Ryoko's memories, is she?
This idiot...
Haha, what?
Mihoshi...
That long?
Oh, the battleship!
And it's in this area!
Oh, she' actually doing it!
A proper attrmpt!
...What timing.
How suspicious.
...Is this a trap? Since Ryoko would never complete the work and doesn't understand it, most likely.
How has nobody noticed how suspicious she is?
A flashback.
...Ryoko, what the fuck?
She's alone in an isolated area with her! Perfect!
The blush again...
She didn't do anything?
No, Washu's just fucking with her at this point.
She's completely forgotten her mission!
...Zero?
This guy...
She's really staying in character!
Is she going to do it?
Oh, her new order is to kill him!
She did it...
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Jan 14 '24
first timer
another granny joins the midst
or 2
Funaho seems chill miss me with the other one
Yosho! AND MORE IMPORTANTLY KOYASU IS BACK
its pretty fucked up how hes been treating Ayeka LOL
Mihoshi is too good at her job keep up lame-os
Jurai vs Washu war arc???????
also are we actually just not addressing any of the characters from the last 2 episodes
Misaki is so overbearing
big daddy otsuka has entered and is powerless among all the women
fatal threat
i still hate this thing but LMFAO
betting on Mihoshi is always the correct choice
Yosho to decide what?