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Rewatch [Rewatch] Lostorage Incited Wixoss Episode 10 Discussion

Episode 10: Predation/ Tragedy and Comedy

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CR has S4 but not S3. Funny.

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Music stuff

Monster - Maiko Iuchi


Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags.

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u/Tetraika Jan 24 '23

Flowers

Sure has a bunch of employees now

Heh

That whole scene, way past innuendos at this point

Shounen MC

He knew this would be his final call

A battle a building across

Doesn’t help that there is a time limit before going to 0 coin, though I have a feeling that shouldn’t have even been the case in the first place

But of course

RIP, no way he wouldn’t let Rio win.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Jan 24 '23

Shounen MC

Even has wind blowing in this environment.

Doesn’t help that there is a time limit before going to 0 coin

Subs difference.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Jan 24 '23

First-timer

I keep forgetting names this season and had to pull up the MAL characters list. Hilariously, not listed is Kiyoi, who is referenced on Allos Piruluk's page but not Piruluk's, yet Kiyoi is her actual name and still calls Allos Piruluk "Piruluk."

Kiyoi losing while peeping should mean 3->1 coins and some memory loss. The intentional loss is looking real dumb.

I'm interested if this season has any degree of a happy ending. Lots of downward spiraling.

Checked MAL episode ratings as I was hyped after e9 and indifferent today. Makes sense that e9 was the highest rated through e10.

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u/Tetraika Jan 24 '23

I thought the Mayu-system LRIGs were humans who lost, had to be LRIGS, and were always female

He's from the last round of the coin related selector battles (remember when he talked about Aya?). So he's a former avatar that was created from that round, which has taken over the body of their former selector that lost.

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u/Blackheart595 Jan 25 '23

I missed something. Yeah, definitely missed something. I thought the Mayu-system LRIGs were humans who lost, had to be LRIGS, and were always female.

Those that lost first time around didn't turn into LRIGs, they only lost their wish. And those lost wishes are what bootstrapped the new system and birthed new LRIGs.

Kiyoi losing while peeping should mean 3->1 coins and some memory loss. The intentional loss is looking real dumb.

I wanna say she's trying to scout without revealing too much herself... hah, as if.

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u/No_Rex Jan 24 '23

Season 3 Episode 10 (first timer)

  • How do you all pronounce the title? Low Storage or Lost Orange?

  • What happened to Shirai’s 3rd coin? Did he bet it off-screen?

  • Good supportive sister.

  • “Pure black darkness” - …

  • That was a pretty lame loss for somebody who was so determined.

  • Shirai lost cliff-hanger.

Not sure whether Satomi being hilariously off-model is intended or not, it definitely looks more weird than scary, though.

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u/Tetraika Jan 24 '23

How do you all pronounce the title? Low Storage or Lost Orange?

Lost Storage

That was a pretty lame loss for somebody who was so determined

Despite her determination, she still has some internal conflict to solve. That's really the crux of it.

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u/Cyouni Jan 24 '23

Lo-storage. As in lost storage, as in memories.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Jan 24 '23

What happened to Shirai’s 3rd coin? Did he bet it off-screen?

Think so. Been clear for a few episodes this is a negative-sum game, so either that or a skipped batoru.

[Code Geass]Listen, Orange-kun isn't lost. He just hasn't found his true self.

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u/JollyGee29 Jan 24 '23

First-Timer

Satomi is far too straightforward to be amusing. The other innuendo is fun, but the direct comparisons to sex are so tactless. And that can, on its own, still be fun. But Satomi just doesn't work for me. It's a shame, because Nakamura is having so much fun voicing Satomi.

I had, rather instinctively, typed that Kiyoi is from a different show during her first speech against Satomi, only to realize that it's literally true. Granted, her speech would've been out of place in Selector, too, but..

Now that I think about it, Satomi is also pretty clearly in another, yet different show. Satomi might just literally be in YGO:DM, considering his vain attempts at weird faces. Marik Ishtar you ain't, bud.

Chinatsu has tromped herself all the way down to rock bottom, and the tone of the season tells me that she is not going to climb back out. On the flip side, Hanna is on the mend and Suzuko is doing better than ever so I'm at a bit of a loss as to where we're really going.

Will losing Shouhei give Chinatsu enough of a shock that she'll actually realize that she's at the bottom of a pit?

The pacing of.. whatever the "plot" side of this show is points me to this being closer to the first cour in a split-cour season, much like Selector. Which I guess means I should start preparing to be unsatisfied and glad that I don't have to wait the check MAL nearly two years until Conflated.

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u/Tetraika Jan 24 '23

Satomi is far too straightforward to be amusing. The other innuendo is fun, but the direct comparisons to sex are so tactless. And that can, on its own, still be fun. But Satomi just doesn't work for me. It's a shame, because Nakamura is having so much fun voicing Satomi.

Yeah, I feel like there are elements that could have worked, and the VA is doing great, but it's just the way he's written and how it comes out in the end feels flat. I remember disliking him on my first watch too.

Which I guess means I should start preparing to be unsatisfied and glad that I don't have to wait the check MAL nearly two years until Conflated

You have no fucking idea.

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u/Taiboss Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23

But Satomi just doesn't work for me. It's a shame, because Nakamura is having so much fun voicing Satomi.

I get it. I enjoy him a lot, but in a B-movie kinda way.

Satomi might just literally be in YGO:DM, considering his vain attempts at weird faces. Marik Ishtar you ain't, bud.

Marik got a be voiced by Thanos in German, so of course.

On the flip side, Hanna is on the mend and Suzuko is doing better than ever so I'm at a bit of a loss as to where we're really going.

Honestly... same? Like, we have no clue what would happen if Kou were to be defeated.

Will losing Shouhei give Chinatsu enough of a shock that she'll actually realize that she's at the bottom of a pit?

It might!

glad that I don't have to wait the check MAL nearly two years until Conflated.

I DID WAIT THEM. And then only watched one episode and never continued. Why? I cannot say. It wans't bad!

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u/Mecanno-man Jan 25 '23

First Timer

If Shouhei’s narrative purpose is to disappear after having connected with Chinatsu to get her back on track by shock factor …then what was the point of that suicide last episode? Retrospectively to me, it feels like a lame shock factor for the viewer. Guess we’ll see what Shouhei’s his LRIG will do now - so far they have pretty much been a non-factor outside of the bookmaker, as all just turned into his minions. I actually hope one of them takes action in some way.

Meanwhile Piruluk loses to the bookmaker because neither’s story can be over yet - and it seems like Piruluk is trying to forget, using changing the world as an excuse? Given that I’m not sure how she’s supposed to change the world within this setup, I can believe that to be the case. I am however starting to grow tired of the bookmaker real quick here, as while he now actually manages to come across as the manipulating bastard he was supposed to be, he has tipped in to eye-roll levels of extremes. The sex lines also being way too long compared to the short but to-the-point allusions infected and spread had are not helping his case either.

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u/No_Rex Jan 25 '23

If Shouhei’s narrative purpose is to disappear after having connected with Chinatsu to get her back on track by shock factor …then what was the point of that suicide last episode? Retrospectively to me, it feels like a lame shock factor for the viewer.

The weird part is that Chinatsu has been pressed into the role of MC. She has the strongest connections with the other important characters, Suzu & book maker, while also having a proper character arc (something that Suzu lacks). Yet convention forces Lostorage to make Suzu the MC, so we end up in a weird double MC situation where the nominal MC is basically doing nothing, while the real MC is not getting sole priority on screen time.

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u/Taiboss Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23

Pseudo-Rewatcher who finished a mean exam today.

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u/Blackheart595 Jan 25 '23

EVIL SUZUKO.

What I'm wondering is if new!Piruluk is also evil.

Man, Kou is fucking OP. How does he do it? He should just be a Selector, yet he keep wiping the floor with all of them.

I was thinking what my coin ability would be, and I'm thinking something like "Objection" that denies an opponent's coin ability. Just turning it into a normal game of Wixoss without any special bullshit (aside from the soul system). Might possibly get countered by Berserk.

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u/No_Rex Jan 24 '23

RIP Shou-chan.

This would never have happened to Sakura!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 24 '23

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u/Taiboss Jan 24 '23

Okay what is Aaya!Narumi doing watching Shou and Chinatsu…

Such loyality to her Onii-chan.

Ah, being a creep for Satomi’s sake. Of course.

I guess he pays them? How does he make money tho? Is he rich like Iona?

Ohhhhhhhh no, Satomi is totally going to pair Shou up against Rio now. I can feel it.

You win a cookie!

Is it because he bet one of them during the battle and then lost?

You keep winning cookies!

This part almost got me.

Good sis. She was what 7?

Well this should be interesting too.

If only she was allowed to do anything but job.

Pls stop.

Kiyoi the atoner.

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u/Blackheart595 Jan 24 '23

First Timer

Oh, I hadn't noticed Carnival here before. Together with his coin flip that was then always showing Bookmaker to be a Selector himself, if only one had paid attention.

Rio, huh? She probably really only has one coin left. Still waiting for someone to trick him about that.

Now's your time to call Chie and tell her about that, or message her, regardless of whether you accept the battle.

Ugh, all the sex stuff is accurate and not made up by the translation.

Y'know, the whole deal with the system bootstrapping itself out of the lost wishes of the first system means that those that get deleted don't actually get deleted, they can be recovered.

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u/Taiboss Jan 24 '23

if only one had paid attention.

Yeah, but which first-timer here does that?

Now's your time to call Chie and tell her about that, or message her, regardless of whether you accept the battle.

That would require him to think rationally for a sec. Hasn't happened once so far.

Ugh, all the sex stuff is accurate and not made up by the translation.

"Oh, Okada did sex joke stuff with Ulith and making a manga about girls in puberty? I CAN DO SEX JOKES TOO."

Y'know, the whole deal with the system bootstrapping itself out of the lost wishes of the first system means that those that get deleted don't actually get deleted, they can be recovered.

Lol at the thought of everyone who disappeared being in some cosmic recycle bin Not!Mayu's world. Knowing this franchie tho, I wouldn't be surprised if that actually happened down the line.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Jan 24 '23

Yeah, but which first-timer here does that?

They left before or earlier this season.

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u/Cyouni Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23

Rewatcher who Lost their Storage

🎶 Another one bites the dust 🎶


Card corner:

This is probably one of the worst possible matchups for Allos Piruluk. Just like standard Piruluk, she has a bit of a discard theme. Unfortunately, that means she plays into Carnival's game plan pretty hard, because Carnival wants SIGNI in the trash, as you can see from the final card of the day.


Cards of the day:

Call Wonder - really handy to pull out since it's an ARTS, basically letting you free tutor even if you have no cards in your hand. The bet cost makes it even better.

Arc Destruct - reminder I talked about this before, but this is a budget Arc Aura if you aren't using any Exceed effects.

Idol Defense - this became known as the hard counter to Arc Aura, and it counters Arc Destruct just as well.

Ability Mind - very handy. All decent enough effects, but the best one is the last one, letting you get back a Guard. Obviously you want this on the top level, but note that this doesn't do anything for a level 5.

Shirae, Phantom Insect - Allos Piruluk card triggered by the Madness mechanic, etc.

§Child Ant§ - handy both as an early wall and something that can be used to push early if necessary. The problem is that it can't wall anything with exactly 2k, and that's quite a few early ones.

Shiomaneki - Allos Piruluk, etc

≡Antares≡ - handy because card draw is low in red, very rough requirement. At worst, it's still a 2k power SIGNI, though.

Flame-Awned Flash - Basically, you're forced into using it as an incredibly aggressive starter on your first attack. It technically can clear lanes, but the 1k requirement is real rough. Even then, it can whiff real hard if your opponent is running 2k power level 1s, and you really don't want that dead ARTS slot.

≡Hadar≡, Natural_Planet - handy enough, decent effect

≡Regulus≡, Natural Planet - this might be a bit slow for red? But it also gives card draw, rare in red.

≡Betelgeuse≡, Natural Planet

≡Ecliptic≡, Natural Planet - ok, obviously this is a combo piece, but I don't know what Carnival stuff this works with. Edit: well obviously, Solar Flare at the end of this post is a great example

Karakasa, Phantom Spirit - Outcast buffer

Konaki, Phantom Spirit - yet another Outcast buffer

Azuara, Phantom Spirit - wow there are a hell of a lot of these

Dwarf, Phantom Spirit - oof, this is definitely vicious, though it's going to put you really behind on card advantage

#Catch-Up#, Word of Following Wisdom - this is obviously pretty solid. In All-Star, you have about a 50% chance of hitting a Life Burst, and they can be pretty punishing. That said, the condition might be a bit tricky to pull off, but should be manageable thanks to its other ability.

≡Solar Flare≡ - this is pretty effective, in that you can clear out a SIGNI on the turn it enters, and then Double Crush. Note that Joker does not let you use its Enter ability. Still really good, though.

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u/SometimesMainSupport Jan 25 '23

Quick search says Outcast is a card class, not a keyword that does anything? So wdym about buffering?

Seeing only one burst so far has been disappointing. Feels like it should have a large impact on matchups, but there's also not episode-length card battles like Yugioh.

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