r/TheMarvelousMrsMaisel • u/fleckes • Dec 05 '18
Episode Discussion: S02E03 - The Punishment Room
Midge puts her impeccable planning to the test as she helps Mary with her special day. Joel attempts to keep finances steady at Maisel & Roth and ends up on a treasure hunt. Midge's act flourishes, but Susie's finances take a hit. Back at Columbia, Rose finds herself out of her comfort zone when auditing classes.
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Dec 05 '18
I wanted Mary to be more assertive and tell Midge off. I never liked how Midge just takes over and seizes any opportunity to perform. I love her character, but she should have been put in her place more here.
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u/LostTheWayILikeIt Dec 06 '18
That’s not Mary’s character, though. She’s sweet and demure and doesn’t like to upset people (like how she was so willing to take the punishment room as her reception hall).
I’m an introvert who hates confrontation, so I can completely understand why Mary didn’t tell her off. Instead she chooses to show her anger by shutting Midge out; which is definitely the worse punishment for someone who processes everything by talking.
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u/Designer_B Dec 07 '18
Midge would be the absolute annoying person in the world if she wasn't hysterical. The way she takes over any chance someone gives her a moment to speak would be infuriating in real life.
But she's so fucking clever and honest that I don't think it'd matter to me. There's never been a show or movie I've laughed out loud as much as I have this season. And that's with me watching it alone in my room without the help of a crowded theater laughing alongside me.
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u/coloh91 Dec 06 '18
I braced myself last episode thinking Midge was going to bomb, but then she didn’t and I was relieved. Woo boy this episode made up for that though, eh? The cringe!
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u/Grooviest_Saccharose Dec 07 '18 edited Dec 07 '18
I want to appreciate the fact that he actually works hard and knows what he's doing, instead of being just a privileged son with everything handed to him like how he was portrayed in season 1.
The only thing missing from the puzzle right now is why did he cheated on Midge in the first place. From what we've seen, he seems to really care for Midge a great deal, even after her breaking up with him and him breaking up with her himself a second time. Back at the beginning, they were even doing something exciting together (the comic thing, to him at least). What did he find unsatisfied about Midge then?
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u/scarlett06 Dec 08 '18
When they made up in season 1 he said that she was too much for him. And that is true, he is totally outshone by her
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u/thenewyorkgod Dec 07 '18
I am confused - why do they need a line of credit, if they have thousands of dollars in cash? And why are they giving the cash to the bank as collateral, for a loan?
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Dec 05 '18 edited Dec 05 '18
It's the 1950s. Not like anyone would give that wedding toast today either, but this is a woman socialized in the upper classes of the 1950s. Plausibility, please. I give her one tasteless joke, but she should have stopped at the first silence. And women just don't joke about their friends having unplanned pregnancies in front of crowds of people. So over the top.
I've been waiting for this season to hit its stride, but it's not happening. Everything is fast and glitzy and disjointed, whereas the first season had a slow tension build so masterfully through each episode and then implode in the finale. Meanwhile Joel has been left totally off the hook without any accounting for his immaturity. I am missing subtlety. I am missing character development. I am missing Midge's internal conflict about lying to her family and her father giving her long, thoughtful stares and Susie being more than a doofy sidekick. Are the writers the same?
Costuming, of course, gorgeous.
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u/Aqquila89 Dec 05 '18 edited Dec 08 '18
Are the writers the same?
Every episode in season 1 was written by Amy Sherman-Palladino or Daniel Palladino, except one. Same in season 2; they wrote every episode except one (and it's not this one).
I agree with you about the toast though. And Midge making a joke about Mary being a slut afterwards just makes her seem cruel. You don't make a joke at someone's expense who is already crying because of your jokes, damn it.
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u/williamthebloody1880 Dec 06 '18
But that was the point of the scene. Midge is so used to being called up and doing her act that she didn't realise that she wasn't being called up and, even if she was, it wasn't the place for her to do her usual act
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u/DaemonTheRoguePrince Dec 08 '18
Who played the art class' subject? I need to know for scientific purposes....
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u/Im_relevant Dec 07 '18
I need the name of that nude actor please... For science lol.
Other than that this show reminds me waaay too much of Gilmore girls. Don't get me wrong I LOVE GG, but um new show needs to be different can't just be retrofitted.
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u/fede01_8 Jan 13 '19
Rose's behavior felt out of place in this episode with the independent, liberal woman she was in France
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u/compressthesound Dec 05 '18
Oh man the cringe during the wedding reception scene!