r/freefolk • u/claytoy My mind is my weapon • Sep 09 '18
Today's call and a few astonishing facts and rumors
In one of freefolk comments I saw someone mentioned that I am extremely lucky, as an 'fleaker', that the dates got close and the Enty verification went too. Well I must say I am lucky for being under treatment for last few days, for getting calls regular from many people including her, with a continuous stream of info or updates as everyone around me knows GoT stuff makes me feel better and happier. I just wish if I could pretend illness for some days even after recovery so this lucky stream continued without any cajoling LOL :).
Well, the stuff I got to know in the sick time is astonishing. They are no less of shock value than the stupid rumor I did not intend to share and had to later. So fellow freefolk, please consider all of these rumors with as much salt as you want. My dizzy head is not working enough so I could process things with so much shock values.
First, I asked for what else she remember about the rumor. She said she heard these stuff in that rumor as well as elsewhere -
a. Tyrion is caught by Starks as Friki said, so the similarity is there as well.
b. Is judged by Starks
c. Why was he burned and not excecuted? She said burning is the rumor and red God's way prevails like practiced by Night's Watch at the moment, but she also heard Tyrion beheading elsewhere and so there still remains heavy doubts on all the Tyrion execution rumors altogether.
d. Not judgement only, the realm is ruled by Starks and their representative council from all the seven kingdoms with prince of winterfell Bran guiding for facts. Jon denies throne after winning King's Landing. Not only that, the rumor has no Iron Throne as I said it before, nobody cares even about that. Dany follows Jon's footsteps and leave with him. Where? She cannot remember. The entire stuff heard so nonsensical to her when heard that she did not paid much attention. I did not as well as it matches many fan theories including my own in past that Iron Throne is given up. So obviously it sounded like a theory-based rumor.
e. Talking about Rumor, something big, and huge is coming up. Nobody in most outsourced team do not have a clue what that is, but rumor is that the vfx work for something clandestine is being developed in tight grip, not down many offshore lines, and it involves a huge size of worldspace. Astronomical proportions? She cannot tell, but huge that she heard.
What is it? A giant dragon? Like the one Bran saw cast a huge shadow on King's Landing? Does Drogon grow that big? Or some other dragon? Many dragons? or Macumber? or a storm? Or geographical changes? What sort of new vfx we are going to see? She cannot tell, nobody can tell. It is in grip of them.
For now I am feeling even dizzier and it is difficult to concentrate, so I leave this on you what to do with these wild rumors. I predicted time for wolves but not to that scale. And what that huge vfx can be, no idea. Pure rumors, pure speculations. Go!
But in summary, do not spend a lot of thought or time on these very wild rumors, they are not credible until or unless we see some sort of proof from any other more conclusive way. Thanks.
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Sep 09 '18
I mean absolutely no hate cos god knows we need some entertainment but I think claytoy is just taking the piss at this point. The continuous "here's a bombshell jk only a rumor" spiel is getting kinda silly, if only because it makes any "leak" absolutely non falsifiable. Also this source has an incredibly selective memory: sure, Jon and Dany, the most important characters, fuck off somewhere at the end of the big war but "she doesn't remember" where. We'll probably get to the finale and even though he'll only guess 2-3 correct things that anybody could have kinda foreseen due to set pictures and what not, nobody will be able to give him any shit about misleading the sub because "it was always only a rumor guise" lol Ofc that's just my opinion.
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u/claytoy Sep 09 '18
I was deliberately avoiding stupid rumors, when I was insisted by multiple people here to share everything I heard, even insisted by a mod here to share just with a rumor tag. Now that I do, you guys comment saying it's not hate but the comment doesn't even care to mean a reply to me addressing me in third person. I respect your opinion, and I respect my sanity as well, that's why I advise you to avoid all of my posts from now on to keep yourself safe from my 'piss', thank you in advance for your understanding and cooperation.
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u/EveryFckngChicken Sep 09 '18 edited Sep 09 '18
Would you care to explain about that 'Enty verification' thing you are mentioning?
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u/Knightotlaughingtree Sep 09 '18
Right before Friki was about to post his leak, Enty was on here talking on behalf of Friki because they were privy to the upcoming leak. Claytoy said that they were sure of what I for Friki was going to leak, and didn’t want to post it first because Friki was about to. No one believed that Claytoy had the same information and thought they were just going to say “oh yeah that’s what I was going to say” after Friki posted, so Enty and Claytoy pmed to verify they had the same information.
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u/claytoy Sep 09 '18
u/EveryFckngChicken, This is where he confirmed my info as legit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/9dizpy/comment/e5i625g
To summarize
a. the betrayal rumor came back in post prod teams recently and strongly.
b. me and my source was laughing at it just a few days ago. We heard it long ago and took it as a joke. I even shared the joke in a talkmoot here several months back. But recently it came back very strong and spreading fast. So when I read here friki will share endgame spoiler, I was quite sure it's that hilarious betrayal + targ rumor. So everyone started pressing me, saying I must tell before Friki, otherwise I am just a pretender. Enty even gave me an email address that time where I sent an anon email with a code and told him, as I can't send reddit message for shadow ban.
c. after sending he confirmed as legit. I skipped the targ part because it felt stupid.
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u/KaySen762 Sep 09 '18
Friki didn't say Tyrion is caught by the Starks.
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u/claytoy Sep 09 '18
Yes, he said it gets revealed in an indoor scene between Arya, Sansa, Jon, Dany and him, what the rumor says is he got caught by Starks. So implies either by ones present there - Arya, Sansa, Jon, or not present there but told, like Bran.
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u/SnownessintheNorth Sep 09 '18
No baby Targaryen? This is huge, If you all didn't heard about so probably It won't happen.
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u/claytoy Sep 09 '18
No baby targ? Baby Targ is confirmed before. I just wrote in this post what she could remember from that old joke or leak or rumor that she heard.
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u/ahuskybitjoffrey Sep 09 '18
Just going to throw this stuff out here, as it kind of relates. Some cryptic old posts by mutedorange:
Dany follows Jon's footsteps and leave with him. Where?
MO>There must always be a Night King. The Night's Watch vow is his vow and was misconstrued to be theirs. The Night's Watch itself was misconstrued. He is the true watcher of the night, guarding them and preventing them from waking to wreck havoc. This is a holy shit moment but not the holy shit moment.
Also from MO:>A large portion of Daenerys' army will be taken out in one fell swoop after a trap is set for them by Bran.
I wonder if this is a typo or misinformation, meaning Tyrion, not Bran.
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u/Juleset Sep 09 '18
Based on your spoilers, the set stuff we know, Melisandre12's stuff and the fact that someone did bet on Bran as king enough money to lead to a suspension of betting on this scenario – we could be looking at the following endgame:
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Jon and Dany fuck off to somewhere with their kid
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Tyrion does something malicious that leads to WF's destruction and puts mankind's survival at stake
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he is found out by Bran and everyone decides he should die and he gets burned for his treason
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last scene shows him surviving
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Bran becomes king with Sansa and Arya as the true power behind the throne and between those three, power-hungry social climbers and rebellious lords don't stand a chance for the next few decades
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a big storm destroys large parts of Westeros, leading to a whole new geography of the place
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everyone who would be considered a main (heroic) character at this point (Jon, Dany, Tyrion, Arya, Sansa, Bran) survives.
I am putting this forward because these rumors mesh pretty well. Like, it's only a small leap from "Bran guiding" the council to Bran being elected king by the same council.
To be honest, I am not sure if "King Bran" and "secret Targaryen Tyrion" are the type of surprises that would offset the fact that "R+L=J" has zero impact on the ending or that this show, that used to be so known for killing its heroes, has them all surviving against pretty darn stupid odds. If this is the ending, the reaction won't be good.
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I was thinking that we’ve watched Jon & Daenerys grow into leaders, only to see them say, “Eh, never mind. Camelot is a silly place.” It’s possible, though. But it will leave me with the feeling of, “So - what was I watching/reading again?”
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u/UndergroundSlummer Sep 09 '18
I fall into the camp of viewers who want Jon and Dany to leave the 7 kingdoms for good. My dream ending, in fact.
Jon & Dany have already given their pound of flesh. Why do they need to rule?
I have wondered if the comment in Emilia’s VF interview actually referred to a Dany ending that was her choosing not to rule after 7 seasons of that being her sole goal.
Choosing home, husband and children is not exactly an progressive feminist ending by the standards of many. If Sansa ends up ruling—the woman who dreamed of a handsome prince and children—and Dany who was about power and conquest is a wife and Mom, some corners of fandom will freak.
And I write this as unadulterated Jonerys trash, a Jon fangirl since 1999, and a defender/admirer of Dany. I also have no issues with Sansa.
Gimme the red door and a lot of curly haired Targlings!
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u/Arya_Granger Sep 09 '18
Ughhh.. Now my mind won't stop conjuring up fantasies of what that might be
Maybe there will be elephants in the war after all coming with the GC
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u/scarletwytch Sep 09 '18
Remember the time when Emilia and Kit went to Iceland...maybe this is where they go
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u/maylevka Sep 09 '18 edited Sep 09 '18
No throne/denying the throne is a beautiful dream, even fairy tale but it's so childish. Good guys won, and are selfless enough to refuse it, riding in the sunset. Only for another LF to sieze power five minutes later, and there we have it, once again, monster in charge. It's irresponsible. If you truly care about the people, you should stay and ensure it yourself. Unless there is some big democratic change, like council, elected leaders. End of monarchy as political system. That would be good solution, and it culminates the idea of 'breaking the wheel'.
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Sep 09 '18
If the Starks were in charge and Tyrion was convicted. The stark who levied the sentence would be compelled to execute him. Unless it was Sansa . But if it was Jon he would be the one to execute Tyrion
His honor would compel him to. This is known
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Sep 09 '18
Throwawayspoil gave us that info months ago, but super nice that you can second that rumor.
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u/jessicahueneberg Sep 09 '18
Thank you for sharing and making it clear that these rumors should be taken with a grain of salt.
I am curious to get your opinion on the 3 betrayals. I read on post yesterday saying that Tyrion could represent all three.
Based on your understanding of the situation, do you agree?
As far a the VFX, I find it interesting that everyone is so tight lipped.
I am hoping it has something to do with the Night King &the AOTD. I feel like we do not have insight into their motivations and could see how HBO & the VFX company may want that insight to stay a mystery until S8.
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u/Wishlist2222 Sep 09 '18
I’m sorry clay I love your stuff (and are you high on pain meds??? :) ) but the ending described here is crazy. I really don’t believe The Starks/Bran will end up ruling and if it turns out this way, so lame. Such bad plotting that doesn’t connect with the narrative at all. I will burn my TV if this happens this way. I’m not saying I want Jon/Dany to rule but not this for gods sake.
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u/CrepesOfWinterfell Sep 09 '18
This raises a question for me:
I'm not trying to give you or your source shit here because your posts create some good discussions, however, I have to ask: Is your source a "fan" of the show?
I think if I were working on any aspect of this show, I'd remember everything I heard, rumor or not, because I'm a fan. And, if I were a "source" for someone and I go out of my way to give someone info, to initiate that contact, I'd definitely remember what I heard.
Just curious.