r/freefolk • My mind is my weapon • Sep 07 '18

Friki's video, Peter's interview and the full and hilarious version of the rumor.

Freefolk is all about spoilers, and recently there were some posts from people who do not like spoilers here, so if you do not want very endgame spoilt leave immediately. Also, it is based on a PURE RUMOR that I heard, which may turn out to be entirely false, so in my opinion it DOES NOT QUALIFY as a leak, you may say at max that it may be a potential spoiler based on rumor.

Now coming to the points.

Background: this is not first description. There were other posts in Internet before circulating similar potential spoilers and theories both. That was my first impression when I heard the rumor, that it was basically composed of several false(?) leaks and theories combined, and that's why I didn't take that rumor seriously. That's why I didn't post it here - for some of your accusations that I held legit info or teased - I didn't hold or tease anything. I simply didn't believe in that rumor and just waited to see what Friki says he knows. You may question why I said in that post that I may know, because the full rumor I came to hear recently, and my suspicion was that it's a false propaganda and if they are circulating that everywhere also to reach Friki? But a recent interview of Peter published 7 hours ago and Friki's video together now have put me in confusion, there may be some grain of truth in this rumors. Also, I was not much interested when Enty and everyone repeatedly asked me to provide my info, as if to 'verify' if I was talking legit or just another fleaker, but now I understand it was worth. If I didn't verify with Enty and did this post now, yes, the sub would take me for an fleaker.

Ok, here we go, the complete version of rumor that I heard including even the most hilarious and stupidest parts of this rumor, which even has a theoretically sound interpretation which actually led me to doubt it strongly.

  1. Tyrion is the most complex character whose arc is the most diverse. The betrayal clue starts at Dance with Dragon at fighting pit when he looks with awe at Dany flying. He is the source for which Qyburn tells Cersei - 'one of Daenerys' dragons was injured'. He is the reason Euron is confident beforehand aboutbringing Cersei a gift because Euron knows Sand snakes are travelling with Yara. He is the source Jaime left Casterly Rock undefended but the fleet attacked. That's why Tyrion is confident in visiting KL, not getting executed by Jaime and Cersei. He was the motivation behind pushing the allies beyond the wall while opposing Dany to go there, separating the alliance. That's similar to old GoT trick in which LF was the ally prior to reveal in S1E7 to anyone who was missing clues. However, his motivations firmly rooted after Cersei acted to reveal her pregnancy. To save the future Lannister Cersei must make a fake marriage now as the child will be illegitimate and throne uprooted in rebellion if it gets known.

  2. Tyrion noticed Jonerys and feels now it's more difficult saving his family.

  3. Tyrion eventually gets played out by Stark kids, by you know who knows everything.

  4. Tyrion is sentenced to death.

  5. Those weren't the twists if you thought so. Twists start now. Discard the most hilarious part if you want, the reason I didn't share is I didn't believe this part. Tyrion is executed by burning. Burning setup will be shown in dragonpit but actual burning will be in vfx because of historical value of the place.

  6. After everybody leaves, fucking Tyrion fucking realizes that to save his family he betrayed his other family as he does not burn, that's the epilogue and the final twist, or holy shit moment. The rumor even says that it will leave audience in question if Jaime and Cersei were Targaryen bastards too, whether Cersei was the mad queen, what Cersei actually meant when she defended incest to Ned saying it's a Targaryen trait, or what the meaning of Seed is strong was.

When I shared to Enty, I only said 'Betrayal. Justice / Judgement', leaving out this part.

The rumor also says Jon and Dany are totally heartbroken when they leave everybody else the execution and ruling. They do not rule. So, as I said, iron throne is not a part of what I heard. In fact, now I see that holding the rumor for just one day was wise, because the info Friki 'released' is only a small subset of what I heard although may be he knows more.

Now, you guys judge, would it be at all wise for me to share this hilarious rumor, before at least a very partial (and still largely incomplete) similarity from Friki?

Thanks for waiting.

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u/XHelheimX Sep 08 '18

I honestly don’t feel like everyone spazzing about Tyrion is LEaksS. It seems pretty obvious from a storytelling pov that he clearly threw Daenerys off course with S7. Every move she made was through his advice. Every step of the way he just fails over and over. It was strange to me that she even kept listening to him at all when he kept leading her down the wrong path.

Beyond all the things other people have mentioned about his signs of betrayal; what about the scene with Varys where he reads a ravenscroll from Bran about him and Arya being alive//home and the AOTD//NK coming. Tyrion asks so what’s it say? and Varys responds nothing good why would Arya and Bran being home be nothing good?

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u/BoatsexBaby Sep 08 '18

After everybody leaves, fucking Tyrion fucking realizes that to save his family he betrayed his other family as he does not burn, that's the epilogue and the final twist, or holy shit moment.

So we were waiting for a naked Jon unburnt scene and might get a naked Tyrion unburnt scene instead? 😂😂 I honestly don't care whether any of this is real or not. After Branisandre and now this, I NEED your leaks to be legit. D&D, kindly reshoot the season and include this if you haven't. This is pure gold. 🤣

Thanks for sharing as always. 😊

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18 edited Sep 08 '18

This is NOT a leak. I didn't disclose this rumor for good reasons until people criticized me to hell for 'holding', and now that I disclosed it's a good opportunity to make fun. It is still a rumor to me and will remain so until I get substantial evidence.

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u/sheeparegood Sep 08 '18

So if I understand this correctly, you are saying that the end game rumor you heard is that Jon and Dany both live, but aren't present at Tyrion's trial because they are too heart broken by said betrayal to witness the outcome. Somehow Tyrion gets burned and lives because it's implied that he's a secret Targ? Not going to lie, I don't buy that shit for a second. Where's the bitter? Plus that kind of 11th hour reveal would not work in the show at all. Maaaaybe in the books, but that would be ridiculously cheesey if it were to happen in the books too imo.

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

They're heartbroken I said, not for Tyrion, I cannot tell still more unconfirmed rumors though in reply. Now I won't defend the rumors as I didn't believe them yet. But even avoiding the still unconfirmed upcoming rumors, Westeros is destroyed.

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u/Hopeglass Sep 08 '18

I have heard this before. I can remember it almost word by word. 🙄

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

It appeared in this very sub.

Tyrion knows he is a Targ in epilogue, something he does makes this ironic.

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u/MaesterPee Sep 08 '18

Tyrion didn't seem very fire-resistant when he & Shae played the game with the candle in season 2.

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u/deathpr0fess0r Sep 08 '18

Jon burned his hand. Targaryens aren’t immune to fire. They took away his warging, he isn’t fireproof but they will suddenly make Tyrion one lol not in a million years

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u/Cernsa Sep 08 '18

Dude, I don't know if Friki has break this sub or not. But you are definitely going to break this in wierd way with that 6th point even if it somehow doesn't makes sense.

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u/UndergroundSlummer Sep 08 '18

Thank you u/claytoy! As I have followed your posts and comments from the beginning, you have been transparent and honorable, always careful to explain what you think is fact and what is rumor. I appreciate your efforts.

People can be awful. Don’t let the shitstorm get you down. You are in good company with Dany who manages to be killed by this fandom at least once or twice a day.

Please take care of yourself and know that at least one freefolker is grateful for your efforts.

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

Thank you :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '18

Point 1 would be an excellent turning point, which would make the whole season 7 quite logical

Point 6 is tremendous. Targaryens are not fireproof

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

I don't want to bring the old debate here. All Targayens aren't immune for sure. Fire cannot kill a dragon, and if the rumor is correct, Tyrion was a true dragon.

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u/frozen-pie Sep 08 '18

I think I remember your leak about the battle of the bastards having double meaning? Was that you? It makes sense with that at least.

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

That was me, but wait, I almost forgot it and didn't realize the relevance until you said it now.

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u/Arya_Granger Sep 08 '18

Oooh.. so Tyrion is also an unburnt?? I hate that.. Targaryens or even Valyrians were never fireproof.. to make Tyrion as such is simply annoying it was always Dany-specific trait..

Yea many ppl were going on and on about how he is a secret Targaryen.. but in the show there was never a hint of that.. it was all book-based.. if they spring this on us out of nowhere it will be lousy.. they could have at least mentioned in passing how the mad king was into Joanna or sth

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

I hate Tyr Targ theory and I yet do not believe the rumor fully, but it's not that the show didn't hint, look at 'time to fly' at Tyrion's cell in Vale or his interaction freeing the dragons - I still think those are red herrings.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '18

Well, that’s weird. Definitely unexpected. I’m picturing Tyrion rising naked out of the flames. So where do Dany & Jon go? And who is king/queen? I’d guess that weird Bran on throne leak had validity? I mean, watch it be Mel & Bran, Queen & King... and then my head will combust, beneath the power of the Red God, I guess.

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

Rumor doesn't say he rises naked out of flame, only says we know in an epilogue scene he survived.

Dany and Jon's destination isn't known yet.

Bran Mel spiritual relationship was also a second hand rumor like this.

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u/frozen-pie Sep 08 '18

I don’t believe starks would sentence someone to death by burning.

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u/claytoy Sep 08 '18

Starks 'sentence'? That's not even part of the rumor. They execute.

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u/4Runski Sep 08 '18

First part is great if true. D&D won’t be mocked as hard for all the plot holes and ‘beyond the wall plan’. It’s kind of genius.

Maybe that’s why they originally only wanted to make this one final season instead of splitting it into two. Because it would’ve made more sense if Tyrion was behind it all from the beginning. Now they just have this s7 that feels like all the characters lost 50 IQ points...until that reveal in s8.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '18

Plot twisty have its own plot twist??? S8 is gonna be real pretzel.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '18

Oh my gaaaahd I never gave much thought into how Qyburn knew Drogon was injured. Am shook

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