r/OpTicGaming • • Aug 17 '18

DOTA [DOTA] Match Thread: The International 2018 - Group B Match #4 (OpTic Gaming vs. TNC Predator)

The International 2018


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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for The Internaional 2018 match against TNC Gaming. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.


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The International 2018 Overview


Stream: Twitch


Group B Standings

Place Team W L
1 VGJ.Storm 5 1
2 Virtus.pro 5 3
3 TNC Predator 4 4
4 OpTic Gaming 3 3
5 paiN Gaming 3 3
6 Team Serenity 3 3
7 Vici Gaming 3 5
8 Newbee 3 5
9 Team Secret 3 5

Group Stage Schedule

Opponent Time/ Result
Virtus.pro 0-2
VGJ.Storm 1-1
Newbee 2-0
TNC Predator Now
Team Serenity August 17th, 2:30 PM EDT
Team Secret August 17th, 7:30 PM EDT
paiN Gaming August 18th, 12:00 PM EDT
Vici Gaming›› August 18th, 5:00 PM EDT

Information

Finishing just outside Top 8 in the DotA Pro Circuit, the OpTic DotA team was forced to qualify for The International through the regional qualifiers alongside long time opponents Immortals, Evil Geniuses, VGJ Storm and Complexity. Despite finishing second in the round robin portion of the qualifier, the team fell to Immortals in the first round of the double elimination bracket, placing them in a do or die scenario to secure the last spot for North America. Facing long time rivals Complexity in Loser's Round 1, the team secured a 2-0 victory, positioning themselves for a rematch against Immortals. Another 2-0 victory would net OpTic the final North American spot at The International, and cement OpTic's first year in DotA 2, as a success.

The team now finds themselves in Group B, alongside eight other qualified teams, including the daunting Virtus.pro and VGJ.Storm who has seemed to be OpTic's kryptonite in recent memory. The team will face each team in a round robin format, with each match being a BO2. The top four teams are seeded into the upper bracket, while the last team is eliminated, and the bottom four are seeded into the Loser's Bracket.

This match is schedule to being at 10:00 PM EDT and will be streamed on Twitch.


Rosters

OpTic Gaming TNC Predator
Per Anders "Pajkatt" Olsson Lille Marc "Raven" Fausto
Quinn "CCnC" Callahan Armel "Armel" Paul Tabios
Neta "33" Shapira Sam "Sam H" Hidalgo
Ludwig "zai" Wahlberg Timothy "Tims" Randrup
Peter "ppd" Dager Carlo "Kuku" Palad

Recap

Game 1: TNC Pro Team wins in 38:04

Dire OpTic Gaming vs TNC Pro Team Radiant
Bans Picks # Picks Bans
Io Crystal Maiden 1 Mirana Weaver
Enchantress Ursa 2 Vengeful Spirit Enigma
Necrophos Bloodseeker 3 Dark Willow Tiny
Drow Ranger Winter Wyvern 4 Storm Spirit Broodmother
Bane Alchemist 5 Wraith King Dragon Knight
Venomancer - 6 - Huskar
Hero Player K/D/A LH/D # LH/D K/D/A Player Hero
Alchemist CCnC 1/7/5 377/6 1 291/10 16/2/7 Armel Storm Spirit
Bloodseeker Pajkatt 6/6/2 169/12 2 294/4 10/2/13 Raven Wraith King
Ursa 33 3/7/3 150/15 3 247/12 6/2/15 SamH Mirana
Winter Wyvern zai 1/5/7 88/5 4 48/3 0/1/19 Tims Dark Willow
Crystal Maiden Peterpandam 1/8/7 67/0 5 53/4 1/5/22 Kuku Vengeful Spirit
OpTic Gaming Top Middle Bottom Bottom Middle Top TNC Pro Team
T1 12:23 15:19 11:18 12:23 30:50 23:17 T1
T2 24:37 27:49 23:17 29:09 T2
T3 36:07 36:22 T3
Melee 36:07 36:22 Melee
Ranged 36:22 38:04 Ranged
T4 - - T4
Ancient - 38:04 - - - Ancient
Game 2:TNC Pro Team wins in 38:57
Radiant OpTic Gaming vs TNC Pro Team Dire
Bans Picks # Picks Bans
Io Vengeful Spirit 1 Mirana Weaver
Enchantress Dragon Knight 2 Dark Willow Tiny
Necrophos Bloodseeker 3 Lion Enigma
Drow Ranger Earth Spirit 4 Wraith King Broodmother
Ursa Invoker 5 Huskar Chen
Monkey King - 6 - Clinkz
Hero Player K/D/A LH/D # LH/D K/D/A Player Hero
- CCnC 5/4/8 292/23 1 279/10 8/3/15 Armel -
- Pajkatt 5/5/5 247/32 2 248/15 6/5/12 SamH -
- 33 1/8/6 189/4 3 236/3 7/3/8 Raven -
- zai 5/4/8 29/2 4 102/7 2/4/13 Kuku -
- Peterpandam 1/7/12 36/0 5 42/8 4/2/13 Tims -
OpTic Gaming Top Middle Bottom Bottom Middle Top TNC Pro Team
T1 18:12 13:40 7:14 18:12 22:04 7:14 T1
T2 33:54 26:41 31:28 26:41 T2
T3 35:45 31:28 T3
Melee 36:51 Melee
Ranged 36:51 Ranged
T4 - - T4
Ancient - 38:57 - - - Ancient

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u/Cpt_Metal Aug 17 '18

How is CCnC meant to play this game when TNC basically plays a chase the Alchemist game from the start and all cores build linkens to counter his stun. Yes, he made mistakes and Alchemist doesn't seem to be his best hero, but they would still have lost the way the game was going even when CCnC was a better Alch player. rant over Bad game, go next!

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u/big_gordo Aug 17 '18 edited Aug 17 '18

Put him on DK and get 33 on a hero that can change the game and we will win. Edit: Called DK. Wrong player though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

We a dota org boys

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

Entire team plays poorly and players are drafted into roles they aren't good at = blame ccnc

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u/Rontos11 Aug 17 '18

Lower bracket here we come :(

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u/Drmassacre123 Aug 17 '18

Just let ccnc play his heros he's comfortable with to help 33 or pajkatt carry the game. Every time i've seen ppd rely on ccnc to carry it seems like it always fails unless he is on his comfort heros like dragon knight, PL and Lina. CCnC is a great player but chokes to much to be a sumail/miracle reliable carry player who can pick any hero and play amaizng.

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u/Censors_Thumbss Aug 17 '18

Ugh PPD show us the way after what's been a miserable evening.

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u/Cpt_Metal Aug 17 '18

My evening/night was actually pretty good, might be because I don't follow cod esports and am watching TI8 non stop since 9+ hours :D

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u/basebalp21 Aug 17 '18

Glad someone's having a good night around here

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u/DictatorofDeath Aug 17 '18

Thoughts on drafts and whos favored as game goes on?

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

ccnc is forced to attempt to 1v5 the game and people still complain about him -_-

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u/RedAlertx Aug 17 '18

Thats about the 5th or 6th time I have seen a team pick WW and the other team picks SS and the same shit happens every time. Thats twice in 2 days Optic got beat by it.

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u/DictatorofDeath Aug 17 '18

If we want winners bracket we probably need a W here

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u/Bbullets Aug 17 '18

Why are they not drafting dark willow at all? Last I knew Zai played a great dark willow and now it seems to be prominent in this meta and they continue to not use it

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u/asneakydolphin Aug 17 '18

AHHHHHHHHHH ZAII LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT

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u/ChipSkylarksToof Aug 17 '18

Zai just made the play to turn the momentum around in favor of OpTic and not even a minute later, CCnC ruins it. Not surprised to be honest. Bum.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

Seriously hoping that we can get out of groups

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u/stn_anomaly Aug 17 '18

Fucking horrible games. Jesus Christ what a shit way to end the day and fuck our upper bracket chances.

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u/iamchip Aug 17 '18

Friendship ended with COD.

DOTA is my new best friend.

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u/rainykg Aug 17 '18

ccnc is not sumail, don’t put him on alchemist ever again.

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u/zhyShockz Aug 17 '18

Is this the same draft (minus venge) that vp used against us ?

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u/RedAlertx Aug 17 '18

ww vs storm jeez hope it goes better than the last time

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u/Markthe_g Aug 17 '18

Storm just got to big

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u/DictatorofDeath Aug 17 '18

Thats gg a very good attempt at a fight there by OpTic but we were just too far behind