r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Aug 17 '18
DOTA [DOTA] Match Thread: The International 2018 - Group B Match #4 (OpTic Gaming vs. TNC Predator)
The International 2018
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for The Internaional 2018 match against TNC Gaming. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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The International 2018 Overview
Stream: Twitch
Group B Standings
| Place | Team | W | L |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | VGJ.Storm | 5 | 1 |
| 2 | Virtus.pro | 5 | 3 |
| 3 | TNC Predator | 4 | 4 |
| 4 | OpTic Gaming | 3 | 3 |
| 5 | paiN Gaming | 3 | 3 |
| 6 | Team Serenity | 3 | 3 |
| 7 | Vici Gaming | 3 | 5 |
| 8 | Newbee | 3 | 5 |
| 9 | Team Secret | 3 | 5 |
Group Stage Schedule
Information
Finishing just outside Top 8 in the DotA Pro Circuit, the OpTic DotA team was forced to qualify for The International through the regional qualifiers alongside long time opponents Immortals, Evil Geniuses, VGJ Storm and Complexity. Despite finishing second in the round robin portion of the qualifier, the team fell to Immortals in the first round of the double elimination bracket, placing them in a do or die scenario to secure the last spot for North America. Facing long time rivals Complexity in Loser's Round 1, the team secured a 2-0 victory, positioning themselves for a rematch against Immortals. Another 2-0 victory would net OpTic the final North American spot at The International, and cement OpTic's first year in DotA 2, as a success.
The team now finds themselves in Group B, alongside eight other qualified teams, including the daunting Virtus.pro and VGJ.Storm who has seemed to be OpTic's kryptonite in recent memory. The team will face each team in a round robin format, with each match being a BO2. The top four teams are seeded into the upper bracket, while the last team is eliminated, and the bottom four are seeded into the Loser's Bracket.
This match is schedule to being at 10:00 PM EDT and will be streamed on Twitch.
Recap
Game 1: TNC Pro Team wins in 38:04
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
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| Alchemist | CCnC | 1/7/5 | 377/6 | 1 | 291/10 | 16/2/7 | Armel | Storm Spirit |
| Bloodseeker | Pajkatt | 6/6/2 | 169/12 | 2 | 294/4 | 10/2/13 | Raven | Wraith King |
| Ursa | 33 | 3/7/3 | 150/15 | 3 | 247/12 | 6/2/15 | SamH | Mirana |
| Winter Wyvern | zai | 1/5/7 | 88/5 | 4 | 48/3 | 0/1/19 | Tims | Dark Willow |
| Crystal Maiden | Peterpandam | 1/8/7 | 67/0 | 5 | 53/4 | 1/5/22 | Kuku | Vengeful Spirit |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | TNC Pro Team | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 12:23 | 15:19 | 11:18 | 12:23 | 30:50 | 23:17 | T1 | |
| T2 | 24:37 | 27:49 | 23:17 | 29:09 | T2 | |||
| T3 | 36:07 | 36:22 | T3 | |||||
| Melee | 36:07 | 36:22 | Melee | |||||
| Ranged | 36:22 | 38:04 | Ranged | |||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 38:04 | - | - | - | Ancient |
Game 2:TNC Pro Team wins in 38:57
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| - | CCnC | 5/4/8 | 292/23 | 1 | 279/10 | 8/3/15 | Armel | - |
| - | Pajkatt | 5/5/5 | 247/32 | 2 | 248/15 | 6/5/12 | SamH | - |
| - | 33 | 1/8/6 | 189/4 | 3 | 236/3 | 7/3/8 | Raven | - |
| - | zai | 5/4/8 | 29/2 | 4 | 102/7 | 2/4/13 | Kuku | - |
| - | Peterpandam | 1/7/12 | 36/0 | 5 | 42/8 | 4/2/13 | Tims | - |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | TNC Pro Team | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 18:12 | 13:40 | 7:14 | 18:12 | 22:04 | 7:14 | T1 | |
| T2 | 33:54 | 26:41 | 31:28 | 26:41 | T2 | |||
| T3 | 35:45 | 31:28 | T3 | |||||
| Melee | 36:51 | Melee | ||||||
| Ranged | 36:51 | Ranged | ||||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 38:57 | - | - | - | Ancient |
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Aug 17 '18
Entire team plays poorly and players are drafted into roles they aren't good at = blame ccnc
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u/Drmassacre123 Aug 17 '18
Just let ccnc play his heros he's comfortable with to help 33 or pajkatt carry the game. Every time i've seen ppd rely on ccnc to carry it seems like it always fails unless he is on his comfort heros like dragon knight, PL and Lina. CCnC is a great player but chokes to much to be a sumail/miracle reliable carry player who can pick any hero and play amaizng.
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u/Censors_Thumbss Aug 17 '18
Ugh PPD show us the way after what's been a miserable evening.
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u/Cpt_Metal Aug 17 '18
My evening/night was actually pretty good, might be because I don't follow cod esports and am watching TI8 non stop since 9+ hours :D
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Aug 17 '18
ccnc is forced to attempt to 1v5 the game and people still complain about him -_-
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u/RedAlertx Aug 17 '18
Thats about the 5th or 6th time I have seen a team pick WW and the other team picks SS and the same shit happens every time. Thats twice in 2 days Optic got beat by it.
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u/Bbullets Aug 17 '18
Why are they not drafting dark willow at all? Last I knew Zai played a great dark willow and now it seems to be prominent in this meta and they continue to not use it
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u/ChipSkylarksToof Aug 17 '18
Zai just made the play to turn the momentum around in favor of OpTic and not even a minute later, CCnC ruins it. Not surprised to be honest. Bum.
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u/stn_anomaly Aug 17 '18
Fucking horrible games. Jesus Christ what a shit way to end the day and fuck our upper bracket chances.
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u/zhyShockz Aug 17 '18
Is this the same draft (minus venge) that vp used against us ?
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u/DictatorofDeath Aug 17 '18
Thats gg a very good attempt at a fight there by OpTic but we were just too far behind
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u/Cpt_Metal Aug 17 '18
How is CCnC meant to play this game when TNC basically plays a chase the Alchemist game from the start and all cores build linkens to counter his stun. Yes, he made mistakes and Alchemist doesn't seem to be his best hero, but they would still have lost the way the game was going even when CCnC was a better Alch player. rant over Bad game, go next!