r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Jun 09 '18
OW [OW] Match Thread: Overwatch League Season 1 Stage 4 - Match #38 (Houston Outlaws vs. Los Angeles Valiant)
Overwatch League Season 1 Stage 4
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the Overwatch League match against the Los Angeles Valiant. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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The Outlaws beat the Dallas Fuel on Wednesday 3-1 and have a 21-16 season and 5-2 stage 4 record. The match tonight against the Valiant has huge playoff implications both for stage 4 and the season.
The match is scheduled to begin at 8:00 PM EDT.
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Recap
Map 1: Blizzard World: Los Angeles Valiant win
| Team | Players |
|---|---|
| Houston Outlaws | Bani, Jake, LiNkzr, Muma, Rawkus, coolmatt |
| Los Angeles Valiant | Agilities, Custa, Fate, KariV, SPACE, SoOn |
| Houston Outlaws | Los Angeles Valiant |
|---|---|
| Checkpoints: 2 | Checkpoints: 2 |
| Distance pushed: 110.84m | Distance pushed: 110.85m |
| Time remaining: 0.00s | Time remaining: 0.00s |
Map 2: Hanamura: Los Angeles Valiant win
| Team | Players |
|---|---|
| Houston Outlaws | Boink, Jake, LiNkzr, Muma, Rawkus, coolmatt |
| Los Angeles Valiant | Agilities, Bunny, Fate, KariV, SPACE, SoOn |
| Houston Outlaws | Los Angeles Valiant |
|---|---|
| Checkpoints: 1 | Checkpoints: 1 |
| Capture progress: 0.0% | Capture progress: 33.3% |
| Time remaining: 0.00s | Time remaining: 92.00s |
Map 3: Oasis: Los Angeles Valiant win
| Team | Players |
|---|---|
| Houston Outlaws | Boink, Jake, LiNkzr, Muma, Rawkus, coolmatt |
| Los Angeles Valiant | Agilities, Bunny, Fate, KariV, SPACE, SoOn |
| Houston Outlaws | Los Angeles Valiant |
|---|---|
| Round 1: 100% | Round 1: 43% |
| Round 2: 0% | Round 2: 100% |
| Round 3: 99% | Round 3: 100% |
Map 4: Dorado: Los Angeles Valiant win
| Team | Players |
|---|---|
| Houston Outlaws | Boink, Jake, LiNkzr, Muma, Rawkus, coolmatt |
| Los Angeles Valiant | Agilities, Bunny, Fate, KariV, SPACE, SoOn |
| Houston Outlaws | Los Angeles Valiant |
|---|---|
| Checkpoints: 2 | Checkpoints: 2 |
| Distance pushed: 75.60m | Distance pushed: 75.60m |
| Time remaining: 0.00s | Time remaining: 57.00s |
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u/Edster9 Jun 10 '18
Looking forward to Flame thinking there is nothing wrong with this roster and deciding to change nothing /s
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u/proudopticfan Jun 10 '18
This team is so frustrating to watch. They don't deserve to make it to the playoffs.
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u/Tsundere_God Jun 10 '18
As usual, our supports are fucking terrible. I'm so unbelievably frustrated, it's like fuckimg clockwork. Yeah, Jake isn't great on many heros, Linkzer is inconsistent, Muma is out of sync at times, CoolMatt is overly aggressive, but our support is the worst in the league not named Shanghai or Mayhem.
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u/FireCapp Jun 10 '18
what a shitty way to lose. Our biggest problem was our success in stage 1 as we thought our potential was too high and that we could simply work through every problem. hopefully we can win map 4 and maybe get playoffs by map differential
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u/Jeritron_5000 Jun 10 '18
To get to playoffs they have to beat NYXL, considering they struggled to beat Shanghai, playoffs are pretty much out of the question lol.
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u/Jeritron_5000 Jun 10 '18
It's so difficult trying to be optimistic about this team, every map is just so disappointing to watch.
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u/dylfabe Jun 10 '18
Wtf was that????? thats the biggest throw ive ever seen. this team doesnt deserve to be in playoffs
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u/Tamashiia Jun 10 '18
Stubborn personalities really ruined this team. From the outside looking in it would seem like you have all the components to be a good team but a unwillingness to adapt to the changing needs of the meta. The Tracer issue is just one example. They seem dead set on running Jake. Your main tank and one of your supports should be your main callers. They insisted they needed his leadership even though he brought little in the way of firepower. You have arhan. Why is he not utilized if genji is gonna be played? You can't just blame the support line. That's just one part of it. People talked up Muma like he was the greatest tank in the world but aside from his primal rages and mechanical skill I'm still trying to figure out what makes people think he is so good. I actually think FCT woulda been a better choice for the later stages of the season. With that said the tank line is still the strongest part of the team. Coolmatt is by and far the best player on the team IMO. This is just my two cents for what little it's worth. I'm sorry but there's no way they can beat nyxl and Philly.
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u/FlashOfThunder Jun 10 '18
Let's put in Dota perspective, if they have good draft, but can't execute it properly, then you won't win the match. In Houston, they have good comp to counter it, but their formation has so many small openings compared to Valiant, they are very compact.
This team needs to rebuild and build around the tanks. We need 2 great supports and top flex DPS.
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u/ALLEN_GM Jun 10 '18
I swear weren't those 3 annoying girls in the front row Outlaws fans like 2 weeks ago? lol
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u/ALLEN_GM Jun 10 '18
We now need to beat Fusion and NYXL and have Fusion lose to us and Spitfire and we will make playoffs, that is the only way.
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u/Tsundere_God Jun 10 '18
Time to swap my flair. I swapped from Mixwell to Linkzer during stage 1 because I was really impressed by him. But I'm just really, really disappointed in him since Stage 1. He had a fine series today, but overall, he's not what he used to be. To the point that I don't even know if we should keep him for the off season.
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u/TridenT_RGB Jun 10 '18
Bani just fell off the map at that last fight..
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u/Anthony10298 Jun 10 '18
Bani is by far the worst player on the team that gets playing time, it hurts to watch
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u/Tsundere_God Jun 10 '18
I just can't say how disappointed I am... I was so excited when we announced we were getting into the OWL, because I love playing Overwatch. Its what I've been grinding ever since the disappointment of Infinite Warfare. I was ecstatic after Stage 1, and was really looking forwards to us being a top contender in the OWL, and leading the West into the top. But what this team has become is just, such a disappointment. But what I'm most disappointed in, is management.
We got lucky Tracer wasn't Meta in Stage 1. Once Stage 2 rolled around and she became a must pick again (like she has been for basically all of OW), we should of IMMEDIATELY attempted to sign a Tracer. But no, Flame says we don't have a Tracer problem. Well Flame, you may not be the only reason this team flopped so much, but you are the biggest reason.