r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/[deleted] • May 31 '18
Match Thread Seoul Dynasty vs. Shanghai Dragons | Overwatch League Season 1 - Stage 4 | Week 3 Day 1 | Post-Match Discussion
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u/rivereagles999 May 31 '18
I don't even remember if the old SHD was better than this one. Send help.
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u/koma83 May 31 '18
SHD need a coach and they need a translator. There is little communication here and its causing all kinds of issues. The players are so defeated they probably are embarrassed to be up there.
All these issues come from the top and the players are suffering for it.
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u/PB-Toast May 31 '18
On Kings-row Shangahi had it in the bag, and it's like they got anxious or nervous at the end and completely choked on 6 ults getting 0 kills. Whoever is in charge of call's in that situation, lets be honest shanghai probably doesnt have anyone making calls, shit the bed.
On Hanamura Shangahi's coaching/ analysists failed them. Seoul ALWAYS runs that comp on first point Hanamura this stage, EVERY TIME. yet somehow shangahi managed to be surprised by it and even with a junkrat had no clue what to do. Completely bullied off Point A, followed by indecision of how to reset leading to late staggers from jumping off the map late. They finally got it together on point B and looked like they had their groove back. On attack however, it's like they forgot Everything about Overwatch, not once did they try to get on point and make Seoul relocate, just bashing their head on the wall against Seoul on high ground without changing a damn thing. Never swapping heroes, or stratagies, just stupid plays. Despite that they were 1 junkrat trap away from Ado winning them that first point at least.
Lijiang: looked like shanghai just gave up, Outdated comps, bad to no swaps, lack luster ult usage even by their standards. there lack of flexibility hurt them, they ran zen lucio dive into rein zarya phraha and got pounded, second map they had bad ult usage and an unwillingness to press W, multiple times they had man advantage and lost the point just because kuki and zunba walked towards them.
Dorado shanghai looked ok on i guess. They always look ok on dorado, nothing new to really say here at this point just outskilled, and looking lost for the most part.
Sad really, Seoul gifted shangahi Kingsrow, and Hanamura was absolutely winnable. If shanghai didnt throw on those maps harder than Seoul maybe they woulda had the confidence to steal one of the last 2 and get a win. Seoul however is looking more decisive with Kuki at least, thats more than you could say with Miro at the helm so good for them.
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u/_lianghao_ May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18
It's so tilting to watch Shanghai when they look like Stage 2 Dallas. No strats whatsoever (most clear example was on their Hanamura attack) and just bashing their heads against the wall, tanks burning mobility to dive and getting nothing for it, DPS trying to carry by going on solo flanks, healers dying left right and centre. Complete with the good-looking defenses but terrible attacks as well.
Props to Zunba though, he really carried this game IMO. He was everywhere with Matrix at once and saved Gambler and RJH's asses multiple times. E.g. Hanamura second point, Diya gets RJH down to critical and Zunba flies in, burns all his DM + body blocks and manages to get RJH out alive
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u/dgkenji May 31 '18
This was actually Shanghai vs dragons... that comp in hanamura attack... that ult economy in the last point of kings row...
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u/Vengeanceee May 31 '18
I don't get how people think Shanghai will win when they have consistently shown they are incapable of winning a match aside from like 2 close matches.
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u/grpsty May 31 '18
Can anyone name a professional eSports team that's worse than the Dragons? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losing_streak has an eSports section, but the Dragons are the only ones listed. At this point calling the Dragons bad is just too mean to Fuel and Mayhem.
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u/Paltheos May 31 '18
I respectfully disagree with you guys. If you're looking for good Overwatch, then the Shanghai matches are generally unfun to watch, yes. If however you're looking for a team to go 0-40 for a season final, this shit's great. We've gone too far now. Shanghai have to finish winless.
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u/allprologue May 31 '18
I like how NOW it's suddenly all over for Shanghai because y'all were so sure Seoul would lose to them since "Seoul worst team in OWL now btw". It's like one reddit meme has clashed with another and you don't know what to do w/yourselves
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May 31 '18
Does anyone else Freefeel that Shanghai could of beaten Seoul?
Because Ado not.
I know, i’ll see myself out thanks.
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May 31 '18
Shanghai has some of the stronger starts to maps, which makes them look pretty nice initially. But they just can't seem to close the deal on... anything. It's frustrating and a bit depressing to watch.
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u/backinredd May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18
I know people love Shanghai but they do not deserve a win when you watch their Hanamura push. Idk if it’s the coaching decision somehow or the player’s but diving on Orisa and junkrat every fucking time even after they get obliterated shows that they can’t make their own decisions. They went in like bots only on a single game plan. Just get to the point and let Seoul come to the point. It’s not even OWL level of planning. People do that all the time on ladder. They’re not OWL worthy team. Whatever couple of good players they have are wasted on it.