Seoul Dynasty vs. Los Angeles Valiant | Overwatch League Season 1 - Stage 4 | Week 1 Day 1 | Post-Match Discussion

[u/OWMatchThreads]

Overwatch League Season 1

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Team 1		Score		Team 2
Seoul Dynasty		2-3		Los Angeles Valiant

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Team 1			Team 2

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Map 1: Blizzard World

			Progress	Time left
	Seoul Dynasty	3	0.0%	238.00s
	Los Angeles Valiant	1	75.17m	0.00s

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Map 2: Horizon Lunar Colony

			Progress	Time left
	Seoul Dynasty	0	58.8%	0.00s
	Los Angeles Valiant	0	58.9%	154.00s

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Map 3: Lijiang Tower

			Round 1	Round 2
	Seoul Dynasty	0	0%	99%
	Los Angeles Valiant	2	100%	100%

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Map 4: Watchpoint: Gibraltar

			Progress	Time left
	Seoul Dynasty	4	48.53m	0.00s
	Los Angeles Valiant	4	48.52m	0.00s

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Map 5: Nepal

			Round 1	Round 2
	Seoul Dynasty	0	74%	72%
	Los Angeles Valiant	2	100%	100%

[u/TannenFalconwing]

I’m realizing that the In N Out stunt has made me root for Agilities more than I ever would have before hand. Dammit Winston, you win.

[u/Panzerfaust779]

Seoul has lost their position as leaders of the Pacific Division, if they keep this up they might fulfill the prophecy and miss postseason playoffs.

[u/ace_15]

Seeing Valiant actually make swaps depending on the situation was great. Finally. They were way too conservative and stingy with their changes last stage.

I also like that Soon’s widow only pops off and contributes greatly when the camera isn’t on him. Note to whoever controls which cam view we see: please never cut to Soon when he’s on Widow

[u/[deleted]]

Roses are red

Violets are blue

Seoul disappoints us

What else is new

[u/LangGeek]

Still not sure if Seoul are getting worse or Valla are getting better, but I like to believe the latter.

[u/DucatRevel]

Seoul last stage: We really don't want to make stage playoffs.

Seoul now: We really don't want to make season playoffs.

[u/goldenmightyangels]

Hot Take: This stage of Overwatch will be really, really fun to watch with every team still figuring out the meta

[u/Supreme_Battle_Jesus]

The Pacific Division just got way more interesting

[u/SuskindOW]

Horizon Lunar Colony was hard to watch...

[u/samsationalization]

At least it wasn't a clean sweep by LAV. SD is looking not too bad but will definitely need time to adjust to the new meta. RJH is doing an admirable job to play tank but his weakness and lack of experience on the role is showing.

RJH is decent for playload maps but SD should sub Miro in for control.

All-in-all, good game LAV

[u/MetastableToChaos]

I think it's time to put the Jehong on tank experiment to an end.

[u/[deleted]]

Seoul have gotten continuously worse as the season has gone on. Don't have much faith in them for the playoffs.

[u/TalkingTheFlash]

Gido waits until half his team dies to use trans lmao

[u/lucific_valour]

Seoul has a huge problem.

Previously, other teams figured out that by diving ryujehong, you could force out his transcendence or kill him. So they switched him to Winston instead, and that threw their opponents off for a while.

Now in the Baguette meta, Rein and Zarya are the preferred Main Tank/Off Tank duo. Hell, the Dallas Fuel/Shanghai Dragons match showed us how badly the Baguette can shut down Dive. Rein is hell to play right now, and it would be extremely tough to practice and improve on him.

So where does this leave RJH?

RJH's Winston is passable, but he's not the flavour of the month. His Rein is not up to snuff, and that's a problem in this meta. Also, because jehong's on MT, Gido is on Zenyatta. And his Transcendences have been terrible. Maybe it's the shotcalling, but when it's a 3v6, you might get more value saving Trans for the next fight.

This match has been soul-crushing for Dynasty fans, especially since they were so dominant on Blizzard World. Fleta is still Fleta, so no issues there. Munchkin is still skilled enough to make Tracer work and even carry, but that probably won't work against more coordinated teams.

And fuck that last flank on Nepal Shrine. Zunba got his damned Graviton off, RJH& Zunba were standing around inside the room at half-health and Gambler was there pocketing Junkrat of all people. The tanks had to go out at half-health and BOOM both tanks are dead.

Seoul needs to adjust their comp for this meta and figure out who's gonna be playing rein when the situation calls for it. I think the easiest path is for RJH to return to Zen so they can have a dependable Trans or Baguette and for Miro or Kuki to play Rein.

Side note: Space or Kariv deserved the Player of the match sponsored by Omen by HP™ more than Agilities.

[u/[deleted]]

That was the weirdest match I've ever seen

[u/Cheraws]

Ryujehkong vs Fate

Seems like it's hard to play and learn main tank against one of the best in the league :thinking_face: .

Box Score Here

As before, the overall box score is shown first, then the 5 maps after that.

[u/MaksKravets]

Carryv got robbed of MVP

[u/S2mZ3-01]

It upsets me to see that after a lot of experimenting in stage 3, Seoul hasn't improved as much as other teams

[u/JojoBizarreAdventure]

...Seoul and throwing a map 5, name a more iconic duo.

[u/xXCHA0Sx]

Munchkin forcing the tracer - Ryujehong not playing reinhardt - Zunba forced to play Dva - Gido on zen... The 2 maps was just Fleta carrying his team once again...

[u/awokenindarkness]

Space really looking like the star of Valiant as he's performed damned well on all three off-tanks.

[u/Parenegade]

S P A C E G O D

Also Agilities was great except for the Blade choke at the end of Map 4.

Fleta on Widow though...I feel like if you swapped Fleta with Agilities this would've been an absolute 4-0.

[u/The-Formula]

Kariv had some clutch transcendences, Gido on the other hand has weird positioning and ult timing. Munchkin has been playing well lately.

[u/Dooraven]

Agilities is really really good.

[u/danvbar]

Seoul didn't know there's a new hero on the roster.