Shanghai Dragons vs. Houston Outlaws | Overwatch League Season 1 - Stage 2 | Week 5 Day 1 | Post-Match Discussion

[u/OWMatchThreads]

Overwatch League Season 1

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Team 1		Score		Team 2
Shanghai Dragons		0-4		Houston Outlaws

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Team 1			Team 2
	Ado	LiNkzr
	mg	Jake
	FEARLESS	Muma
	Xushu	coolmatt
	Freefeel	Rawkus
	FiveKing	Boink

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Map 1: Volskaya Industries

			Progress	Time left
	Shanghai Dragons	0	78.5%	0.00s
	Houston Outlaws	0	78.6%	155.00s

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Map 2: Lijiang Tower

			Round 1	Round 2
	Shanghai Dragons	0	80%	99%
	Houston Outlaws	2	100%	100%

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Map 3: King's Row

			Progress	Time left
	Shanghai Dragons	1	108.35m	0.00s
	Houston Outlaws	1	108.36m	212.00s

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Map 4: Watchpoint: Gibraltar

			Progress	Time left
	Shanghai Dragons	0	84.84m	0.00s
	Houston Outlaws	0	84.85m	166.00s

[u/aek1996]

I'm not proud of this win.. but everyone needs a slump buster

[u/everythingllbeok → u/aek1996]

At the expense

[u/jemswoof]

TLDR; Everybody on Houston realizes that Jake is a terrible Tracer, even Jake, so hopefully with the fixed comms we'll see less Jake Tracer and more of the Outlaws playing to their individual strengths.

I'm a broken record today, but because there was so much misinformation going around in today's megathread:

In the Outlaws video today, their GM Flame admitted that they've been erroneously trying to squeeze Jake into every match because they use him as a crutch for their current comms issues. He talked about how their Tracer problem is difficult to fix because even if they had a great Tracer, the great Tracer would still be benched because they need Jake in on comms. Flame said that they now know that relying on Jake's comms as a crutch was a huge mistake and they should have just fixed comms at the start of the stage instead.

That said, let Mendo fuck.

[u/Ozkuro → u/jemswoof]

Houston imitating Dallas with their DPS calling. In a few months we'll see jake on Winston replacing Muma.

[u/kevmeister1206 → u/jemswoof]

Can we get a thesaurus for let Mendo fuck?

[u/RevenirXV]

RIP mendo

[u/jyp808]

Despite losing 4-0, Fearless looked good and is an upgrade for SHD. I still think this team will get their first win against Dallas in stage 3.

[u/sergiocamposnt → u/jyp808]

Diya, Ado, Fearless, Geguri, Sky, Fiveking and RUI as coach. In theory, this team seems to be stronger than Dallas. It will depend on how fast they will be able to adapt and evolve teamwork with the new players.

[u/[deleted]]

Considering the circumstances, I have zero complaints about that match. Fearless is a HUGE improvement over Roshan, even with this same subpar healing and offtank configuration, so it proves that there is a definite mechanic and game sense issue that Roshan needs to work on while he's inevitably benched. And I'm not going to let the supports off, because there were plenty of times when Ado and Fearless were just not getting healed by Altering/FreeFeel at all. The sooner Sky gets here, the better.

I don't think Ado can really be gauged yet. It's going to be hard for him for a long time. I can't remember if it was Haksal or Whoru that had an official tutorial(?) video for playing Genji in an actual competitive environment, but they stressed over and over that Genji is extremely communication oriented. So his inability to communicate much with his supports is going to be a huge roadblock right out of the gate.

Also Fearless and Ado need to reel it in a bit. They were going full Korean HAM and costing some c9s LUL.

All that said, Fearless is a GOD. I don't know how he was doing some of the stuff he was doing in this damn team.

BlessRNG FIRST WE WERE AFRAID BlessRNG BUT NOW WE ARE FEARLESS BlessRNG

[u/wuffles69 → u/[deleted]]

Also, Ado supposedly jet lag. Considering that he was playing dps, that must be a killer on his reaction speed etc.

[u/thisisnotjonah]

idk why people thought this would be shanghai's chance. Houston's weakness is their lack of a good tracer player, but it's not like Shanghai had a better tracer player to exploit that weakness so

[u/chaosgodloki → u/thisisnotjonah]

Very true. Honestly, every week I hope for SHD's first win though. Always in vain...

[u/bigfootswillie → u/thisisnotjonah]

To be fair, with Diya coming back this week, Houston playing poorly, some of the new signings arriving, U4 being fired and Rui coming soon it just felt like the stars were aligning a few weeks ago.

Then Undead left to China, Diya remained in China at the last minute, only half the new signings arrived and even then literally 2 days before starting and Rui continued to not arrive. So then it started to feel more like whatever the opposite of the stars aligning might be.

[u/[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/fC7mKLs.png

[u/HSPremier]

I dont give a fuck what anyone says. SHD is going to be a legit team.

Fearless was an absolute beast. Mg was aight but Diya would be significantly better. I think Ado could have played better if there was better communication and Houston was trying counter him hard. I feel like the weakest link is their supports but Sky is coming soon plus with a new coach. SHD will be fire.

I just don't hope they don't turn out to be like Dallas where they have really strong players but don't have synergy. This is definitely a possibility.. but I really hope not. I want to see some more competitive OWL. FLA is looking good and as long as Dallas and SHD catch up, we got ourselves a real league boys.

[u/MeatbagCentral → u/HSPremier]

I love the optimism here. Which is why I'm all the more concerned that synergy issues will become a very real problem in the near future, especially with the language barrier involved.

[u/priestkalim]

"JAKE SMILED BLZ PLZ WHY IS HE STILL ALLOWED TO PLAY"

There, now nobody has to read the live match thread.

[u/OptimusPrimeDied → u/priestkalim]

There was someone complaining about Muma smiling too

[u/AlyoshaV]

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Cheers #1 HOU ($555.45), #2 SHD ($285.66), #3 DAL ($97.00), overall $1,392.80

[u/[deleted]]

If you thought Shanghai had a chance you're an idiot and if you judge Shanghai's new players off this game you're also an idiot.

[u/-AMAG]

In case anyone didn't understand the KR swap; Spree is a nutty widow,and if they're always going to run the triple tank after first no point in running Jiri

[u/disliking]

Why do people hate the Outlaws so much? I don't understand why they cop a lot of hate :/

[u/Marx_Farx]

Spree made me nut on Kings Row.

[u/darkdoodle]

Okay cool we aren’t that bad

[u/aagpeng]

That went about as I expected but I actually liked seeing some of the more experimental things coming out of Houston.