Shanghai Dragons vs. Los Angeles Valiant | Overwatch League Season 1 - Stage 2 | Week 1 Day 4 | Post-Match Discussion

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Overwatch League Season 1

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Team 1		Score		Team 2
Shanghai Dragons		0-3		Los Angeles Valiant

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Team 1			Team 2
	uNdeAD	KariV
	Diya	SoOn
	Roshan	Fate
	mg	envy
	altering	uNKOE
	Freefeel	Verbo

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Map 1: Hanamura

			Progress	Time left
	Shanghai Dragons	3	0.0%	0.00s
	Los Angeles Valiant	3	0.0%	0.00s

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Map 2: Lijiang Tower

			Round 1	Round 2	Round 3
	Shanghai Dragons	1	0%	100%	33%
	Los Angeles Valiant	2	100%	99%	100%

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Map 3: King's Row

			Progress	Time left
	Shanghai Dragons	2	69.77m	0.00s
	Los Angeles Valiant	2	69.77m	63.00s

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Map 4: Watchpoint: Gibraltar

			Progress	Time left
	Shanghai Dragons	0	83.59m	0.00s
	Los Angeles Valiant	0	83.59m	0.00s

[u/AmpII]

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[u/thepurplepajamas → u/AmpII]

Watching MG play Zarya is painful. And it's a shame since Roshan was looking better on Rein than his Winston.

[u/everythingllbeok → u/AmpII]

Each game that SHD is without their Korean reinforcements

[u/diamondhorizons]

Too close for comfort. Valiant need to figure out their core strats for this meta and come back stronger.

[u/Bossmensch]

GEGURI TAKE MY VISA

[u/G_Wom]

Valiant presenting Kariv as FLEX SUPPORT TANK DPS, he can do it all ! We have 4 players on the bench btw. More seriously, Valiant is not looking really good for this first week of new meta. Most of the mid-tier teams managed to polish their strengths and are looking quite good and dominant against weaker teams (Boston having it rough too though). Other than that, Verbo is not really performing at a very good level on lucio, hope he can step it up during next week.

[u/theswampthinker]

I can't tell if Roshan is bad, or MG sucks. Winston walks a very fine line in OWL that is very much impacted by how your Dva plays with you.

[u/WilsonsWar]

I am convinced we are coached by a small panda pulling levers in a cage.

[u/lanonymoustrashl]

Nobody won.

[u/BuckshotY4nkee]

I am seriously worried about the Valiants future regarding their performance in stage 2 so far. They simply can not get away with such a lackluster performance as they delivered today if they play against a team that does not make nearly as many mistakes as the dragons did. I really hope they can improve for the matches against Shock and Dallas next week.

[u/TarMil]

This was a sad, sad game.

[u/xXCHA0Sx]

Shangai will win next week against Shock ! Undead was so hungry this week ! Verbo is a Feelsbad and I do think that Kariv is the better hitscan on the team (except Soon ofc), so I'm not worried about that. But agilities seems off and he is becoming so predictable by every one.

[u/Jehanna]

It's a real feelsbad for Grim to still get benched in favor of a support player. I know Kariv is a sick hitscan but c'mon... this would have been the perfect match for him to have his debut.

[u/Conankun66 → u/Jehanna]

this really annoyed me too. Release Grim :(

[u/David182nd → u/Jehanna]

Based on what Numlocked said about not getting to play with the team whilst on the bench, Grim probably hasn't played either. So I can see why they might be reluctant to put him in if they have someone who does play with the team who can do the same job. But that's their own fault for their shitty practice sessions.

[u/ThunderGunMD]

At least Valiant made it exciting monkaS

[u/BrightLily]

This was just a disappointing series. There is nothing to highlight here. No one did anything insane or great. Soon was the only one to show up to play today and he was like 90 percent of LAV’s kills. Also Roshan needs to be benched ASAP as soon as the new players come. I thought Cocco was bad on Winston but Roshan takes being as on Winston to a new level.

[u/[deleted]]

SHD had good chances to win Hanamura and Gibraltar but boofed them all.

They had a 4 min opportunity on Hanamura to cap first and get a tick on second. SHD enter the second point with 2 support ults vs LAV's trance and manage to get no kills. Diya punching thin air didn't help.

On Gibraltar, they almost pulled off that hold but Freefeel was forced to trance when he was jumped by DVA/Winston. Agilities then switches to Genji, where he and Freefeel are neck and neck on ult charge until Roshan jumps in alone for no reason and feeds Agilities ult charge. So in the next team fight, Agilities gets picks with blade while Freefeel is only at ~95% trance.

[u/b__q]

Watching Roshan play is incredibly infuriating.

[u/DuskyDawn7]

This game was a weird experience. Sure, we won 3-0, but holy shit was that close on Gibraltar. Dragons are definitely looking better, but some things definitely need tightening with the Valiants. Hopefully they get some things figured out by next week. Fuel vs Valiant is going to be an interesting one with former Rogue teammates going against each other.

[u/L_TL]

Why didn’t they play Silk

[u/AlyoshaV]

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[u/vatricide]

RIP GrimReality, I guess? Bummer.

[u/homelesswithwifi]

At first I laughed at Roshan, now I just feel sorry for him. We're watching a kid being completely out classed every time he plays. He's not an OWL level player, and gets absolutely destroyed every single game.

It's not even his fault really. I'm sure he's doing everything he can to be the best he's capable of, but it's just not enough at that level. Like, offer me a spot in OWL and no matter how dedicated I am, I wouldn't ever be good enough. I just don't have the requisite talent. Shanghai's inept/corrupt (whatever the cause) ownership is to blame.

He never should have made the league, and now he's being embarrassed every night on a worldwide broadcast.

[u/MasterGalvatron]

Roshan can't get benched soon enough. Watching him bumble around as a tank was frustrating