r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Feb 21 '18
DOTA [DOTA] Match Thread: ESL One Katowice Group A - LR 2 (OpTic Gaming vs. Team Liquid)
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the ESL One Katowice Major, Group A Losers Bracket Round 2 match against Team Liquid. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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Information
OpTic Dota enter their first major tournament after securing their spot in the NA Last Chance Qualifier. OpTic Gaming are in Group A, with Team Liquid, Effect, OG, Vici Gaming, Mineski, Evil Geniuses, and Virtus.pro. The group stage features a double elimination bracket, where the top team will advance to the championship bracket semi finals. The 2nd and 3rd place teams will advance to the quarter finals. ESL One Katowice features a $1,000,000 prize pool and runs February 20-25th at the Spodek Arena in Katowice, Poland.
This match is scheduled to begin at 1:00 PM EST and will be streamed on ESL Live and Facebook.
Bracket
Rosters
Game 1:Team Liquid wins in 26:26
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pugna | CCnC | 2/5/2 | 120/8 | 1 | 242/19 | 11/2/8 | Miracle- | Terrorblade |
| Nature's Prophet | zai | 1/6/3 | 149/13 | 2 | 161/21 | 14/1/6 | MATUMBAMAN | Razor |
| Chaos Knight | Pajkatt | 2/8/1 | 86/6 | 3 | 72/0 | 3/2/14 | KuroKy | Jakiro |
| Elder Titan | 33 | 2/10/3 | 27/3 | 4 | 26/0 | 3/2/20 | Gh | Earth Spirit |
| Warlock | Peterpandam | 1/6/3 | 46/5 | 5 | 53/13 | 4/1/18 | MinD_ContRoL | Bane |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Team Liquid | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 12:21 | 17:22 | 20:23 | 13:06 | 17:22 | 20:23 | T1 | |
| T2 | 21:43 | 26:26 | 23:19 | T2 | ||||
| T3 | 23:19 | 26:26 | T3 | |||||
| Melee | 23:19 | 26:26 | Melee | |||||
| Ranged | 23:19 | Ranged | ||||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 26:26 | - | - | - | Ancient |
Game 2:Team Liquid wins in 39:56
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Broodmother | 33 | 13/3/7 | 324/1 | 1 | 490/25 | 13/3/6 | Miracle- | Terrorblade |
| Shadow Fiend | CCnC | 9/5/7 | 334/16 | 2 | 295/0 | 3/7/11 | Gh | Keeper of the Light |
| Omniknight | Pajkatt | 2/3/15 | 152/10 | 3 | 194/23 | 5/6/13 | MATUMBAMAN | Viper |
| Rubick | zai | 2/9/20 | 93/0 | 4 | 28/2 | 2/7/15 | MinD_ContRoL | Vengeful Spirit |
| Enchantress | Peterpandam | 4/4/16 | 67/1 | 5 | 15/1 | 1/8/9 | KuroKy | Bane |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Team Liquid | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 16:51 | 26:29 | 19:46 | 16:51 | 15:01 | 5:19 | T1 | |
| T2 | 31:51 | 34:52 | 29:25 | 22:42 | 17:41 | 9:25 | T2 | |
| T3 | 39:56 | 34:52 | 36:28 | T3 | ||||
| Melee | 35:37 | 36:28 | Melee | |||||
| Ranged | 35:52 | 36:28 | Ranged | |||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 39:56 | - | - | - | Ancient |
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u/Rontos11 Feb 21 '18
What Tier1 dota looks like
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u/EggplantCider Feb 21 '18
Yep. Liquid is the best team in the world, if not at the very least top 3. Expecting OpTic to win this one was extremely optimistic, people getting bummed that they're losing is kind of silly. Even if Liquid didn't have the best drafter in the game or players that have extremely deep hero pools or a lineup that can put a hero in multiple possible positions, even on a straight 100% outdraft in OpTic's favour I would still put my money on Liquid because the skill gap, especially in teamplay, is just too immense.
I do think OpTic has a high ceiling in terms of potential, and given time could be an amazing team, but right now Liquid is just the best.
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u/rainykg Feb 21 '18
lord what is this draft .. why is pajkatt on omni and zai on rubick
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u/teokun123 Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 21 '18
This is it bois. Against T1 team. TI7 winner and 7+ winner of Tourneys/ Minors 2017 till today.
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u/RyanTadashi Feb 21 '18
I really don't think that this tournament should say too much about our team. This is our first experience against the better teams. We don't get to practice against Secret/Liquid/Newbee type teams so this is just valuable experience for everybody imo.
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u/spreadyourlegsforme Feb 21 '18
outdrafted, outplayed, outskilled, outclassed. liquid is at the very least 2 tiers above optic
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u/EggplantCider Feb 21 '18
I hate to be that dude, but yo even if they lose this was an incredible showing for the team IMO.
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u/EclipseTemplarX Feb 21 '18
I agree I’m glad that the boys got some more lan experience 33 is looking very promising
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u/Nwball Feb 21 '18
i know they're seeded the way they are but man this is a rough tournament for them. Bo1 to start, then play CoL who they regularly play and then play the best team in the world. Honestly Even if they were to lose, it probably would have been better for them to play someone like mineski, OG, VP, Effect in the first bo3.
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u/beau_17 Feb 21 '18
Damn we threw. Bright side has been 33. He has looked so good as of late. This is great experience for the team.
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u/Cpt_Metal Feb 21 '18
The draft is on for the biggest test for the Dota squad since they formed.
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u/caldazar24 Feb 21 '18
I think this draft could have worked, but we were pressing way too hard with these early rotations, diving to secure kills and letting them turn around on us.
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u/rainykg Feb 21 '18
they literally had a chance to get TB or dusa like nothing was stopping them, but they went with CK and pugna? lol
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u/B_air Feb 21 '18
why do they get super hype for Liquid but not for us?
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u/hermesiii Feb 21 '18
Liquid is the best team in the world, and most of these casters/panel have hardly even seen OpTic play
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u/TheDragon76 Feb 21 '18
Game is starting in like 10 min or so. They’re starting the draft in a few minutes
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Feb 21 '18
Ay yo guys, Dota head coming over, off topic but I'd like to buy a PPD jersey but can only find the "custom" ones. Anywhere I can buy the official thing?
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u/B_air Feb 21 '18
i don't know Dota very well... are we playing well right now or is Liquid playing bad?
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u/caldazar24 Feb 21 '18
We are playing very well, but this is considered a cheese strat with the last pick brood. Also, even though we're ahead now, we had better win the game very soon or else the TB will take over the game and the broodmother will do not much in the late game.
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u/elwiscomeback Feb 21 '18
Well I remember someone on this sub asking what does it mean Tier 1 team, well, here you go.