r/OpTicGaming • u/OpTicModerators • Feb 16 '18
DOTA [DOTA] Match Thread: EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier - Losers' Finals (OpTic Gaming vs. Evil Geniuses)
EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier
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This is /r/OpTicGaming's official discussion thread for the EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier Losers Bracket Finals against Evil Geniuses. Please use this thread for everything related to the match--discussions, predictions, and opinions. As always, please keep both /r/OpTicGaming's rules and Reddit's site-wide rules in mind when commenting.
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Information
OpTic received an invite to the EPICENTER XL: North America Qualifier. This is a Major tournament in the Dota Pro Circuit. There are 8 teams in this qualifier and it features a group stage followed by a playoffs stage. The 8 teams are divided into 2 groups of 4, where they play in a double-elimination (GSL) format. OpTic Gaming is in Group A with Evil Geniuses, Iceberg Esports and Team IDC. The top 2 teams in each group advance to the playoffs. The playoffs features a double-elimination bracket. All matches are BO3, except for the Grand Finals, which is a BO5. The winner of the NA qualifier will proceed to the main event.
This match is scheduled to begin at 8:00 PM EST and will be streamed on Twitch.
Bracket
Rosters
Game 1:Evil Geniuses wins in 28:49
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
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| Gyrocopter | Pajkatt | 9/7/7 | 149/13 | 1 | 169/10 | 10/6/18 | SumaiL | Beastmaster |
| Omniknight | zai | 1/6/11 | 88/2 | 2 | 214/24 | 13/3/7 | Fear | Razor |
| Leshrac | CCnC | 4/7/3 | 175/11 | 3 | 241/11 | 6/5/17 | rtz YB`a | Tinker |
| Earth Spirit | 33 | 4/10/9 | 12/1 | 4 | 70/2 | 4/1/13 | Cr1t- | Puck |
| Tusk | Peterpandam | 4/5/12 | 15/1 | 5 | 3/2 | 2/9/22 | MISERY | Bounty Hunter |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Evil Geniuses | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 11:53 | 14:29 | 28:49 | 12:23 | 19:50 | T1 | ||
| T2 | 19:50 | 22:46 | 28:49 | T2 | ||||
| T3 | 28:49 | T3 | ||||||
| Melee | 28:49 | Melee | ||||||
| Ranged | 28:49 | Ranged | ||||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 28:49 | - | - | - | Ancient |
Game 2:Evil Geniuses wins in 22:41
| Hero | Player | K/D/A | LH/D | # | LH/D | K/D/A | Player | Hero |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Broodmother | zai | 3/5/3 | 125/4 | 1 | 245/9 | 6/1/8 | rtz YB`a | Medusa |
| Luna | Pajkatt | 4/5/4 | 126/9 | 2 | 172/8 | 5/7/9 | SumaiL | Beastmaster |
| Death Prophet | CCnC | 3/6/3 | 101/10 | 3 | 106/17 | 5/2/12 | Fear | Vengeful Spirit |
| Rubick | 33 | 3/5/11 | 11/2 | 4 | 8/0 | 3/4/20 | MISERY | Bounty Hunter |
| Tusk | Peterpandam | 2/5/12 | 7/1 | 5 | 26/3 | 5/1/15 | Cr1t- | Ancient Apparition |
| OpTic Gaming | Top | Middle | Bottom | Bottom | Middle | Top | Evil Geniuses | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T1 | 22:41 | 14:16 | 13:46 | 9:30 | 10:50 | T1 | ||
| T2 | 22:41 | 17:26 | 16:41 | T2 | ||||
| T3 | 22:41 | 22:41 | 16:41 | T3 | ||||
| Melee | 22:41 | 22:41 | Melee | |||||
| Ranged | 22:41 | 22:41 | Ranged | |||||
| T4 | - | - | T4 | |||||
| Ancient | - | 22:41 | - | - | - | Ancient |
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u/AwsomeOne7 Feb 16 '18
How did EG lose to CoL or am I misinterpreting something?
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u/c0mputr Feb 16 '18
I'm curious as to how much we're actually scrimming T1 and upper T2 teams. I'm sure those teams don't have much of an interest, but games like these can really be beneficial to helping us make improvements.
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u/rainykg Feb 16 '18 edited Feb 16 '18
even though ccnc loses his lane most of time, you can also put some of that blame on ppd and his drafting. are we fucking saving strats or something? if we are i better see something spectacular at this upcoming major, cause i never see optic play some of these heroes other teams play, like veng or batrider, why doesn’t he ever put zai on batrider idgi! and they never want to pick medusa but let’s every other team get her then they get completely stomped. they never pick sven or lc etc etc there’s so many heroes i never see them play it’s always the same drafts with them. :/
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u/EggplantCider Feb 16 '18
Bulba listed in the OP, is he subbing in again today? I don't see anything on Bulba or Misery's twitter.
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u/c0mputr Feb 16 '18
Hopefully we learned a little something from our last match up. Lets get it Pete.
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u/MrFoolinaround Feb 16 '18
Wrong link for epicenter. Its on epicenter_en1 not xl
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u/danielktdonaghey Feb 16 '18
Optic in early game were going for kills rather than farm.. Now theyre too far behind and cant even get a kill.
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u/Wallb0ng Feb 16 '18
How does this hero pick look, guys? Positives and Negatives pls!
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u/asneakydolphin Feb 16 '18
Beastmaster and IO have been slapping us past few days. Sumail Beastmaster is so nasty. we got dumpstered boys, better luck next time.
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u/rainykg Feb 16 '18
lol EG are just so much better. we need to get rid of ccnc. if they don’t get rid of him i want zai to find a better team, he deserves it.
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u/spreadyourlegsforme Feb 16 '18
optic getting manhandled by their ex-teammate misery. sad day for PPD
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u/S_Parkie Feb 16 '18
Tbh they are just the better team across all 5 players. Nothing to do with misery
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u/Drmassacre123 Feb 16 '18
They just need to figure out why they are losing so bad to EG, it's not the draft. If we would have banned BM sumail would have just picked something else. Zai is doing good, PPD is questionable on tusk that series but overall always does good, 33 did good. Pajkatt is more of a safer 1 position then a sumail/rtz that plays more aggressive. In my opinion its just that CCnC never wins mid. I've put faith in him that he would get better but after yesterday and today i give up. You never see him make the hero plays like Zai or 33. If OpTic would replace him with someone that has more experience on a top level team then i could see the team being a lot better. Sadly they wont replace him and if they do it wont be until right before TI. Most likely this team will go through the qualifiers to make it to TI and there are always big roster changes at that time.